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Contemporaries of Eliezer KALER of Mscibow #rabbinic

Nancy Holden
 

I am interested in biographical information on the rabbis that wrote
approbations (never published) for Eliezer ben Jacob of Slonim
(Shaar Haderushim, Chemdat haYamim (published 1807 Grodno).

Eliezer ben Moses Auerbach (written 1790)
Joseph Katzenellenpogen of Brisk Lita (written 1790)
Baruch ben Moses Bendet >from Zhetl (written 1790)

Found at Yeshiva University NY, Aviva Catalog 109 acccompanying
MS. 45 Any information about these rabbis will be appreciated.

Thank you
Nancy Holden


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Contemporaries of Eliezer KALER of Mscibow #rabbinic

Nancy Holden
 

I am interested in biographical information on the rabbis that wrote
approbations (never published) for Eliezer ben Jacob of Slonim
(Shaar Haderushim, Chemdat haYamim (published 1807 Grodno).

Eliezer ben Moses Auerbach (written 1790)
Joseph Katzenellenpogen of Brisk Lita (written 1790)
Baruch ben Moses Bendet >from Zhetl (written 1790)

Found at Yeshiva University NY, Aviva Catalog 109 acccompanying
MS. 45 Any information about these rabbis will be appreciated.

Thank you
Nancy Holden


Genesis of surnames #lithuania

George Mason <gmason3815@...>
 

While researching my ancestors in Lithuania (NATHANSON in Dotnuva and Plunge and MOZESON in Kovno), I came across the information that surnames did not come in to standard use until 1810-1830. My question is this: how did people go about picking a surname in the first place? Did Nathanson become Nathanson because the elder of the family at that time was named Nathan or was there some other formula or procedure used? Did the local Rabbi assign names to families? Does anyone have any information about this subject that they would be willing to share?

Thanks,
George Mason (Mozeson)
USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Genesis of surnames #lithuania

George Mason <gmason3815@...>
 

While researching my ancestors in Lithuania (NATHANSON in Dotnuva and Plunge and MOZESON in Kovno), I came across the information that surnames did not come in to standard use until 1810-1830. My question is this: how did people go about picking a surname in the first place? Did Nathanson become Nathanson because the elder of the family at that time was named Nathan or was there some other formula or procedure used? Did the local Rabbi assign names to families? Does anyone have any information about this subject that they would be willing to share?

Thanks,
George Mason (Mozeson)
USA


Other names than those searched #poland

Barbara <bellman19@...>
 

Hello all,

I've come across several instances where records appear in the
table with family names for which I did not search. These names
would not be part of the Soundex code for the name I was
searching. These are AGAD records.

Is it possible that the family name I was searching for appears
somewhere on the record but not in what appears on screen?

Barbara Ellman

bellman19@...

Searching: KAGLE , FASS, GREISMAN (Ulanow, Poland)

ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN, DICK, DICKER (Minkovtsy, Ukraine)

GOLDSTEIN, HALPERN, HIRSCHHORN (Janow/Ivano-Frankovo, Ukraine)

HASSMANN, HAUSMAN, KOCH, LUCHS, FURST, SONENTHALER (Drohobycz,
Ukraine)


JRI Poland #Poland Other names than those searched #poland

Barbara <bellman19@...>
 

Hello all,

I've come across several instances where records appear in the
table with family names for which I did not search. These names
would not be part of the Soundex code for the name I was
searching. These are AGAD records.

Is it possible that the family name I was searching for appears
somewhere on the record but not in what appears on screen?

Barbara Ellman

bellman19@...

Searching: KAGLE , FASS, GREISMAN (Ulanow, Poland)

ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN, DICK, DICKER (Minkovtsy, Ukraine)

GOLDSTEIN, HALPERN, HIRSCHHORN (Janow/Ivano-Frankovo, Ukraine)

HASSMANN, HAUSMAN, KOCH, LUCHS, FURST, SONENTHALER (Drohobycz,
Ukraine)


Re: Hungarian material at Yad Vashem #hungary

Alice Fleischmann levitin
 

In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:16:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, Majjongmav writes:

Dear ALL,
2 weeks ago I was at the tribute to Holocaust survivors at the Holocaust museum in Wash DC.It was quite an experience.While I was their I did some research in the Library and found out that my Uncle was deportrd to Dachau >from Budapest.This created more questions than answers. I attempted to contact
Dachau directly and I have not recieved any response.
Any other ideas for getting info?
thank-you
Alice Levitin
Fleischmann/Fabian topolcany Slovakia
Klein Kocice/budapest
Grunfeld/budapest
Wertheimer/Nyitra


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Hungarian material at Yad Vashem #hungary

Alice Fleischmann levitin
 

In a message dated 11/13/2003 10:16:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, Majjongmav writes:

Dear ALL,
2 weeks ago I was at the tribute to Holocaust survivors at the Holocaust museum in Wash DC.It was quite an experience.While I was their I did some research in the Library and found out that my Uncle was deportrd to Dachau >from Budapest.This created more questions than answers. I attempted to contact
Dachau directly and I have not recieved any response.
Any other ideas for getting info?
thank-you
Alice Levitin
Fleischmann/Fabian topolcany Slovakia
Klein Kocice/budapest
Grunfeld/budapest
Wertheimer/Nyitra


WEISS family are Levites? #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
I recently found out that at least some, if not all, members of my WEISS
family (>from the general area of Michalovce, Presov, Vranov nad Toplou and
Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR) are Levites, including probably my own
greatgrandfather (though his headstone is too worn for me to be positive). So I'm wondering
if there are other people with WEISS relatives >from this area who may also be
Levites. If so, I'd like to hear >from you and compare notes.
Thanks much!

Judy Petersen
Fort Collins, CO

Researching: WEISS (>from the above localities)
STOSSEL: Uzhgorod, Dej/Szent Marghita, Budapest
LICHT: Gyor, Kormend
WEISBERG: any Austria/Hungary
UNGERLEIDER: Zemplen county


Searching for Miklos BRAUNER #hungary

Marilyn Sheridan <marilyns@...>
 

Dear members,

I am looking for Miklos BRAUNER, who may be a great-grandson of Hersch
BEUTEL the Hosid.

I have some genealogy information for him.

His e-mail address is no longer active.

Does anyone know a new e-mail address, or how I can contact him?

Please reply privately.

Marilyn Sheridan
Tucson, AZ


Hungary SIG #Hungary WEISS family are Levites? #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
I recently found out that at least some, if not all, members of my WEISS
family (>from the general area of Michalovce, Presov, Vranov nad Toplou and
Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR) are Levites, including probably my own
greatgrandfather (though his headstone is too worn for me to be positive). So I'm wondering
if there are other people with WEISS relatives >from this area who may also be
Levites. If so, I'd like to hear >from you and compare notes.
Thanks much!

Judy Petersen
Fort Collins, CO

Researching: WEISS (>from the above localities)
STOSSEL: Uzhgorod, Dej/Szent Marghita, Budapest
LICHT: Gyor, Kormend
WEISBERG: any Austria/Hungary
UNGERLEIDER: Zemplen county


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching for Miklos BRAUNER #hungary

Marilyn Sheridan <marilyns@...>
 

Dear members,

I am looking for Miklos BRAUNER, who may be a great-grandson of Hersch
BEUTEL the Hosid.

I have some genealogy information for him.

His e-mail address is no longer active.

Does anyone know a new e-mail address, or how I can contact him?

Please reply privately.

Marilyn Sheridan
Tucson, AZ


Silversmith #ciechanow #poland

Lyle11230@...
 

My great grandfather was Abraham Silversmith (1854-1930) of Ciechanow. He married Sara Leah Ducyminer of nearby Pryzasnys (Prushnitz). His father's first name was Simcha.

According to the metal plaque on the gate of the Ciechanow society at Mt. Lebanon cemetery in Queens, Abraham was the President of the Ciechanow Society in New York. The inscription on his tombstone in the Ciechanow plot at Bayside, Queens, states that he was very proud to have reached this position.

Abraham was a shoemaker, and came to the United States in 1887 after he had been in the Russian Army.

The Ciechanow Yizkor books indicates that there were goldsmiths in Ciechanow, and artisans and craftsmen but thre is no mention of silversmiths. The archival records for marriages list 3 Silversmiths getting married but no one who I could identify by their own or their parents' names. In the US today, the names Goldsmith, Silverman, and Silverstein are very common, but only about 100 people have the name Silversmith (derived >from Zylberschmidt and Zilbersmit, and similar Polish spellings), and some of these are Navajo Indians. In Ciechanow, the name Silversmith seems to be fairly common, while outside the town the name is virtually nonexistent. I have not been able to find out how the Ciechanow Silversmiths got or chose their name, since silversmithing appears to have been nonexistent. Does anyone have any ideas or information?

LYLE SILVERSMITH
BROOKLYN NY


#Ciechanow #Poland Silversmith #ciechanow #poland

Lyle11230@...
 

My great grandfather was Abraham Silversmith (1854-1930) of Ciechanow. He married Sara Leah Ducyminer of nearby Pryzasnys (Prushnitz). His father's first name was Simcha.

According to the metal plaque on the gate of the Ciechanow society at Mt. Lebanon cemetery in Queens, Abraham was the President of the Ciechanow Society in New York. The inscription on his tombstone in the Ciechanow plot at Bayside, Queens, states that he was very proud to have reached this position.

Abraham was a shoemaker, and came to the United States in 1887 after he had been in the Russian Army.

The Ciechanow Yizkor books indicates that there were goldsmiths in Ciechanow, and artisans and craftsmen but thre is no mention of silversmiths. The archival records for marriages list 3 Silversmiths getting married but no one who I could identify by their own or their parents' names. In the US today, the names Goldsmith, Silverman, and Silverstein are very common, but only about 100 people have the name Silversmith (derived >from Zylberschmidt and Zilbersmit, and similar Polish spellings), and some of these are Navajo Indians. In Ciechanow, the name Silversmith seems to be fairly common, while outside the town the name is virtually nonexistent. I have not been able to find out how the Ciechanow Silversmiths got or chose their name, since silversmithing appears to have been nonexistent. Does anyone have any ideas or information?

LYLE SILVERSMITH
BROOKLYN NY


Re: West Midland Police Museum #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

These aliens registers also exist at Manchester Police Museum for the City
of Salford. The Manchester group visited there in the summer.

They don't survive in many other places. There is something for Norfolk,
Bedfordshire, Essex and Huntingdon. The PRO's readers' guide, "Immigrants
and Aliens" by Kershaw and Pearsall 2000, has an appendix with a full list
of sources for immigration >from ancient times onwards and this is helpfully
organised county by county.
_

Lists of Belgian refugees for WWI do exist very extensively however since
it appears large numbers were displaced.

~ Peter Glass, London, UK ~

_

At 11:16 13/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
I recently spent a whole day at the West Midland Police Museum (at the
Police Station in Sparkhill, Birmingham) researching the names of my


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: West Midland Police Museum #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

These aliens registers also exist at Manchester Police Museum for the City
of Salford. The Manchester group visited there in the summer.

They don't survive in many other places. There is something for Norfolk,
Bedfordshire, Essex and Huntingdon. The PRO's readers' guide, "Immigrants
and Aliens" by Kershaw and Pearsall 2000, has an appendix with a full list
of sources for immigration >from ancient times onwards and this is helpfully
organised county by county.
_

Lists of Belgian refugees for WWI do exist very extensively however since
it appears large numbers were displaced.

~ Peter Glass, London, UK ~

_

At 11:16 13/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
I recently spent a whole day at the West Midland Police Museum (at the
Police Station in Sparkhill, Birmingham) researching the names of my


All Romania Database updated #ukraine

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to the
JewishGen "All Romania Database", which can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania >.

Nearly 40,000 new records have been added, including:

* 25,000 new records in the Bessarabia Duma Voter Lists, 1906-07,
primarily for the Khotin and Bieltsy districts. This includes
the towns of Foleshty (Falesti), Ryshanovka (Riscani), Skulyany
(Sculeni), Brichany (Briceni), Lipkany (Lipcani), Yedintsy (Edinet)
and a major update to Orgeyev (Orhei), all currently in Moldova,
and Khotin, Novoselitsy (Novosel'tsy) and Sekuryany (Sokiryany),
currently in Ukraine. All of the smaller towns and villages in the
Orgieev, Bieltsy and Khotin districts have also been completed.

The database is still in its infancy but will continue to grow.
There are over 100,000 records still to be transcribed.
The more volunteers, the sooner this task will be completed!
If you are interested in volunteering, contact Terry Lasky at
< tlasky@... >.

For more information about the Bessarabia Duma Voter Lists, see
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/BessarabiaDuma.htm >.
Major revisions have been made to the "Database Data" and
"Database Columns" sections of this introduction.


* 5,000 additional records, completing the "Tabele Barbitalor -
1942 Census of Jewish males born in Romania, 1881-1892".

It is derived >from a census drawn up during the Antonescu regime
in 1942, of males born in Romania between 1881-1892, and who were
deemed to old for work in Labor Camps.

The JewishGen ROM-SIG also has in its possession the census of
men born between 1893-1921, who were sent to the camps.
The list contains more than 300 pages, and over 8,000 entries.

In order to make these lists available, JewishGen needs committed
volunteers who are able and are willing to assist us in preparing
the rest of these entries for JewishGen databases. We will supply
a template and other information to those who would like to help.

If you are interested in assisting, please contact Rosanne Leeson
< Leeson1@... > or Paula Zieselman < PaulaZ@... >.


The JewishGen "All Romania Database" can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
Boston, MA
<wblatt@...>


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine All Romania Database updated #ukraine

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to the
JewishGen "All Romania Database", which can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania >.

Nearly 40,000 new records have been added, including:

* 25,000 new records in the Bessarabia Duma Voter Lists, 1906-07,
primarily for the Khotin and Bieltsy districts. This includes
the towns of Foleshty (Falesti), Ryshanovka (Riscani), Skulyany
(Sculeni), Brichany (Briceni), Lipkany (Lipcani), Yedintsy (Edinet)
and a major update to Orgeyev (Orhei), all currently in Moldova,
and Khotin, Novoselitsy (Novosel'tsy) and Sekuryany (Sokiryany),
currently in Ukraine. All of the smaller towns and villages in the
Orgieev, Bieltsy and Khotin districts have also been completed.

The database is still in its infancy but will continue to grow.
There are over 100,000 records still to be transcribed.
The more volunteers, the sooner this task will be completed!
If you are interested in volunteering, contact Terry Lasky at
< tlasky@... >.

For more information about the Bessarabia Duma Voter Lists, see
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/BessarabiaDuma.htm >.
Major revisions have been made to the "Database Data" and
"Database Columns" sections of this introduction.


* 5,000 additional records, completing the "Tabele Barbitalor -
1942 Census of Jewish males born in Romania, 1881-1892".

It is derived >from a census drawn up during the Antonescu regime
in 1942, of males born in Romania between 1881-1892, and who were
deemed to old for work in Labor Camps.

The JewishGen ROM-SIG also has in its possession the census of
men born between 1893-1921, who were sent to the camps.
The list contains more than 300 pages, and over 8,000 entries.

In order to make these lists available, JewishGen needs committed
volunteers who are able and are willing to assist us in preparing
the rest of these entries for JewishGen databases. We will supply
a template and other information to those who would like to help.

If you are interested in assisting, please contact Rosanne Leeson
< Leeson1@... > or Paula Zieselman < PaulaZ@... >.


The JewishGen "All Romania Database" can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
Boston, MA
<wblatt@...>


West Midlands Police Museum #unitedkingdom

Laura M Gottlieb <lauragottlieb@...>
 

14 November 2003

Ms. Woolf's report on the alien registrations to be found at the West
MIdlands Police
Museum is fascinating and tantalizing. Is there a similar museum for
Liverpool where my relatives stayed through WWI?

--Best,
Laura Moss Gottlieb
Madison, Wisconsin USA


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom West Midlands Police Museum #unitedkingdom

Laura M Gottlieb <lauragottlieb@...>
 

14 November 2003

Ms. Woolf's report on the alien registrations to be found at the West
MIdlands Police
Museum is fascinating and tantalizing. Is there a similar museum for
Liverpool where my relatives stayed through WWI?

--Best,
Laura Moss Gottlieb
Madison, Wisconsin USA