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Allenstein in Israel--request for help #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I was recently told that an Ester MLAVER ALLENSTEIN was living in Tel Aviv
in 1986.
She was born in Poland in 1907. I would like to get in contact with
her or someone >from her family. My gggggg-grandfather was Zelek Allenstein
who died in Przasnysz in 1817 at the age of 80. I also have MLAVER family
connections in Przasnysz.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSZTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ/(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa/Janowo area)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Allenstein in Israel--request for help #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I was recently told that an Ester MLAVER ALLENSTEIN was living in Tel Aviv
in 1986.
She was born in Poland in 1907. I would like to get in contact with
her or someone >from her family. My gggggg-grandfather was Zelek Allenstein
who died in Przasnysz in 1817 at the age of 80. I also have MLAVER family
connections in Przasnysz.

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSZTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ/(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa/Janowo area)


PLAY ON NAMES, Searching ?ICKLER, ?ICHLER, ?ISLER #general

Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
 

This may be a longshot for the JACOBS family search for the original
surname. However, it also may bring some answers. I would appreciate your
thoughts on this. Please answer me privately.

Since our English cousin was unsure of the original surname of our
grandfather, I am curious whether or not Ellis Island or any departure port
could have also been unsure of spelling. For example: Any letter preceding
the "I" in ICKLER/ICHLER/or ISLER would have changed the name completely. I
have searched both FTJP and JGFF, using the D-M soundex.

An "A" or "E" would still make the same sound. However, any consonant (or 2
together, such as St, Sp, etc.) could drastically change the name. If family
came >from Poland, Przasnysz, Posen, Prussia, or anywhere directly to the
U.S. without first living in the UK for awhile, they would not have known to
search their family in the U.S. with our JACOBS name and today, we would not
know how to search for them. Since the family was Orthodox, I assume that
New York and/or Baltimore would be their residence of choice.


Thank you in advance for giving your time and thoughts to this.


Sincerely,

Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching Joseph Judah & Golda Rachel (or Rachel Golda) JACOBS Family
Connections:
EICHLER/AYKLER/ISLER/EHRLICH/JACOBS/GOLDSTEIN >from Przasnysz, Poland/Russia
to London, England to Baltimore, MD to Atlanta, GA. Families of:: Max
HELLMAN, Simon LEVY, Hyman COHEN, Sam & Raymond,FINE, Aaron KAHANOW, Sam
LEAF


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PLAY ON NAMES, Searching ?ICKLER, ?ICHLER, ?ISLER #general

Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
 

This may be a longshot for the JACOBS family search for the original
surname. However, it also may bring some answers. I would appreciate your
thoughts on this. Please answer me privately.

Since our English cousin was unsure of the original surname of our
grandfather, I am curious whether or not Ellis Island or any departure port
could have also been unsure of spelling. For example: Any letter preceding
the "I" in ICKLER/ICHLER/or ISLER would have changed the name completely. I
have searched both FTJP and JGFF, using the D-M soundex.

An "A" or "E" would still make the same sound. However, any consonant (or 2
together, such as St, Sp, etc.) could drastically change the name. If family
came >from Poland, Przasnysz, Posen, Prussia, or anywhere directly to the
U.S. without first living in the UK for awhile, they would not have known to
search their family in the U.S. with our JACOBS name and today, we would not
know how to search for them. Since the family was Orthodox, I assume that
New York and/or Baltimore would be their residence of choice.


Thank you in advance for giving your time and thoughts to this.


Sincerely,

Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching Joseph Judah & Golda Rachel (or Rachel Golda) JACOBS Family
Connections:
EICHLER/AYKLER/ISLER/EHRLICH/JACOBS/GOLDSTEIN >from Przasnysz, Poland/Russia
to London, England to Baltimore, MD to Atlanta, GA. Families of:: Max
HELLMAN, Simon LEVY, Hyman COHEN, Sam & Raymond,FINE, Aaron KAHANOW, Sam
LEAF


ATLAS Family info #general

Joseph Atlas <jatlas@...>
 

I am looking for information on my grandfathers family >from Russia. I
believe they were >from Kiev. His name was Hyman ATLAS. He had a sister
Leah. He came to Philadelphia. He died in mid 70's. He was 76 years
old He was born around 1900 and came to America in the 30's I believe.
Any info on Atlas family name >from Russia wpould be helpful.

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)is a a great tool. At this
time over 30 different people are searching for ATLAS family connection.
To register your own family names go to: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ATLAS Family info #general

Joseph Atlas <jatlas@...>
 

I am looking for information on my grandfathers family >from Russia. I
believe they were >from Kiev. His name was Hyman ATLAS. He had a sister
Leah. He came to Philadelphia. He died in mid 70's. He was 76 years
old He was born around 1900 and came to America in the 30's I believe.
Any info on Atlas family name >from Russia wpould be helpful.

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)is a a great tool. At this
time over 30 different people are searching for ATLAS family connection.
To register your own family names go to: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


Help translate script German #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Hi fellow JGenners,

I have posted two more script German words that I
photographed at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde Wien. I would like
help in translating the script German. Both describe the occupation
of a family member.

Click below to see the first record.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3276

I think the word is something like "sollicitator," but what does that
mean. I have not found this word in my German-English dictionary or
on-line dictionaries. Help!!!!


Click below to view the second record.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3277

This one might say Buchhalter which would be a bookkeeper or
accountant. What do you think?

Please send your thoughts to me at tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you,

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER, TURTELTAUB (Buchach);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague);
FRANKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov, Vienna);
KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna, Vienna);
ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor)
VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help translate script German #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Hi fellow JGenners,

I have posted two more script German words that I
photographed at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde Wien. I would like
help in translating the script German. Both describe the occupation
of a family member.

Click below to see the first record.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3276

I think the word is something like "sollicitator," but what does that
mean. I have not found this word in my German-English dictionary or
on-line dictionaries. Help!!!!


Click below to view the second record.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3277

This one might say Buchhalter which would be a bookkeeper or
accountant. What do you think?

Please send your thoughts to me at tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you,

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER, TURTELTAUB (Buchach);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague);
FRANKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov, Vienna);
KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna, Vienna);
ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor)
VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor)


Re: Chust (Carpathorus) - a new Yizkor book #hungary

I.Weiss/z
 

More info

Cost in us funds, can adian funds


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks RE: Chust (Carpathorus) - a new Yizkor book #yizkorbooks

I.Weiss/z
 

More info

Cost in us funds, can adian funds


Re: Litvaks & Grodno #belarus

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

On the subject of Litvaks and Galitzieners:

In my family the story is told that when my mother informed her parents
(father born in Novyy Swerzhen') that she was marrying my father (1943), he
mother (American born) was dismayed at a Litvak female marrying a
Galitziener. It was considered marrying down in class - intelligence, etc.
In a short time, my father became my grandmother's favorite son-in-law. She
passed away in twenty-five years ago, but my parents will be married 60
years next October.

Another comment - My parents are both American born and educated. In the
past ten years they have begun to speak Yiddish to eachother once in a
while. I asked them how come they hardly ever did that when I was a kid and
they responded that they did not understand each other's dialects of Yiddish
well enough to conduct a conversation.

So, is this differentiation not only a geographic distinction, but a social
and class distinction? I have often wondered.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Litvaks & Grodno #belarus

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

On the subject of Litvaks and Galitzieners:

In my family the story is told that when my mother informed her parents
(father born in Novyy Swerzhen') that she was marrying my father (1943), he
mother (American born) was dismayed at a Litvak female marrying a
Galitziener. It was considered marrying down in class - intelligence, etc.
In a short time, my father became my grandmother's favorite son-in-law. She
passed away in twenty-five years ago, but my parents will be married 60
years next October.

Another comment - My parents are both American born and educated. In the
past ten years they have begun to speak Yiddish to eachother once in a
while. I asked them how come they hardly ever did that when I was a kid and
they responded that they did not understand each other's dialects of Yiddish
well enough to conduct a conversation.

So, is this differentiation not only a geographic distinction, but a social
and class distinction? I have often wondered.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore


The National Archives of South Africa #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Would like to draw the list's attention to a very good
experience I had with the National Archives of South
Africa www.national.archives.gov.za
I had a small breakthrogh while searching for the
Koenigsbuchs,whose branches spread also to
Johannesburg and Capetown.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The National Archives of South Africa #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Would like to draw the list's attention to a very good
experience I had with the National Archives of South
Africa www.national.archives.gov.za
I had a small breakthrogh while searching for the
Koenigsbuchs,whose branches spread also to
Johannesburg and Capetown.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


BAUM from Vidrany and Kurima #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

The beginnings of a website for the BAUM family of Vidrany and Kurima (Slovakia)
can be found at www.pikholz.org/Baum/Baum.html .

This is my mother-in-law's family.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BAUM from Vidrany and Kurima #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

The beginnings of a website for the BAUM family of Vidrany and Kurima (Slovakia)
can be found at www.pikholz.org/Baum/Baum.html .

This is my mother-in-law's family.

Israel Pickholtz


Seeking BLANCHE STERN, nee DAVIS COHEN. #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Searching for descendants of my husband's great grandparents.

1. Ida PINKOFSKY (Pincous / Pinkowsky) m. Nathan or Henry FEINBERG.
Their Jewish names were Toby Etta and Nisen. They had 3 children before
he died.

2. Israel DAVIS m. Jeanette (Nechie) Goldsmith and they had 4 children
before she died.

3. Israel and Ida met, married and had children together.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have found all the descendants of Israel and Ida.
I have found almost all the descendants of Israel and Jeanette.

But: the descendants of Ida and first husband Nisen are more elusive.

Third child Joseph FEINBERG DAVIS became a lawyer in NYC.
Joseph married a woman named Blanche. He died of appendicitis abt 1898,
about the time of the birth of his only child, a daughter named Helene
DAVIS.

Blanche remarried Mr. STERN; they may have had a son named Leo STERN,
who lived in the Grosse Pointe, Michigan area. --
Leo may have had a daughter, Debby STERN.
Blanche and Mr. Stern may have had a second son, named Edgar STERN.

Helene Davis assumed her stepfather's surname and was known as
Helene D. STERN.

In 1917, aged 19, Helene married George J. DE PINNA. They had a son,
George L. DE PINNA. When George L was two years old, his father died.
Helene D. Stern De Pinna married an Otto COHEN (who had been married
to her late husband's sister, Marie V. De Pinna).

Otto and first wife, Marie, had two children Adelaide COHEN (1905--?) and
Maree COHEN (1921-1984)

Otto and Helene had a daughter Doris S COHEN (prob b. after 1926).
Doris married a Richard Anderson (1921-1977).
I think they had a child (deduced >from Helene's death notice in the NY
Times.)

Helene's son George L. DE PINNA (b1919) died in 2000.
He had 2 children. The son has an unlisted phone number.
I spoke to a daughter, sent her an email and gave her ways of checking
my legitimacy.
but she refused to even tell me where Blanche or any of the family
was buried!

Does anyone recognize these names or have suggestions on how to find the
son, Geoffrey, Doris Cohen Anderson or Debby Stern?

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking BLANCHE STERN, nee DAVIS COHEN. #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Searching for descendants of my husband's great grandparents.

1. Ida PINKOFSKY (Pincous / Pinkowsky) m. Nathan or Henry FEINBERG.
Their Jewish names were Toby Etta and Nisen. They had 3 children before
he died.

2. Israel DAVIS m. Jeanette (Nechie) Goldsmith and they had 4 children
before she died.

3. Israel and Ida met, married and had children together.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have found all the descendants of Israel and Ida.
I have found almost all the descendants of Israel and Jeanette.

But: the descendants of Ida and first husband Nisen are more elusive.

Third child Joseph FEINBERG DAVIS became a lawyer in NYC.
Joseph married a woman named Blanche. He died of appendicitis abt 1898,
about the time of the birth of his only child, a daughter named Helene
DAVIS.

Blanche remarried Mr. STERN; they may have had a son named Leo STERN,
who lived in the Grosse Pointe, Michigan area. --
Leo may have had a daughter, Debby STERN.
Blanche and Mr. Stern may have had a second son, named Edgar STERN.

Helene Davis assumed her stepfather's surname and was known as
Helene D. STERN.

In 1917, aged 19, Helene married George J. DE PINNA. They had a son,
George L. DE PINNA. When George L was two years old, his father died.
Helene D. Stern De Pinna married an Otto COHEN (who had been married
to her late husband's sister, Marie V. De Pinna).

Otto and first wife, Marie, had two children Adelaide COHEN (1905--?) and
Maree COHEN (1921-1984)

Otto and Helene had a daughter Doris S COHEN (prob b. after 1926).
Doris married a Richard Anderson (1921-1977).
I think they had a child (deduced >from Helene's death notice in the NY
Times.)

Helene's son George L. DE PINNA (b1919) died in 2000.
He had 2 children. The son has an unlisted phone number.
I spoke to a daughter, sent her an email and gave her ways of checking
my legitimacy.
but she refused to even tell me where Blanche or any of the family
was buried!

Does anyone recognize these names or have suggestions on how to find the
son, Geoffrey, Doris Cohen Anderson or Debby Stern?

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


Photographs of immigrants? #general

Wendygriswold <wendygriswold@...>
 

Hi, all.

Someone please tell me if I'm hallucinating. I have a recollection of
hearing that there is an archive somewhere (NY?) of photographs taken of
arriving immigrants, as they got off the boat, so it would have some
chronological order to it.

I was not concerned about it at the time because I figured I'd never find
the immigration information on my family, but guess what ... (thank you
again, Steve Morse).

Yes, I would recognize faces, but does such an archive exist?

Many thanks and happy Chanukkah,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington Virginia

Blitz, Pfeiffer - Zhurawno (near Lvov)
Dwass/Davis - Ekaterinoslaw (Dniepropetstrovsk), Ukraine
Einhorn, Wenzelberg - Galicia (Mlynczyska, Catowisce, Ochotnica, Palesnica,
Nowy Sacz, Czarny Dunajec), Chicago, New Jersey
Garfinkel - Witebsk, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photographs of immigrants? #general

Wendygriswold <wendygriswold@...>
 

Hi, all.

Someone please tell me if I'm hallucinating. I have a recollection of
hearing that there is an archive somewhere (NY?) of photographs taken of
arriving immigrants, as they got off the boat, so it would have some
chronological order to it.

I was not concerned about it at the time because I figured I'd never find
the immigration information on my family, but guess what ... (thank you
again, Steve Morse).

Yes, I would recognize faces, but does such an archive exist?

Many thanks and happy Chanukkah,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington Virginia

Blitz, Pfeiffer - Zhurawno (near Lvov)
Dwass/Davis - Ekaterinoslaw (Dniepropetstrovsk), Ukraine
Einhorn, Wenzelberg - Galicia (Mlynczyska, Catowisce, Ochotnica, Palesnica,
Nowy Sacz, Czarny Dunajec), Chicago, New Jersey
Garfinkel - Witebsk, Belarus