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Re: Addressing a letter to Polsnd. #general

krs <karensmi@...>
 

Hi Errol,

No, you don't need to include the accent marks in the address. It will
be understood; the meaning doesn't change. However, your top line should
be your middle line. Thus you would have:

Name of addressee
Ul. Kopernika 9
58-573 Piechowice
woj. Dolnoslaskie

(this system of addressing is rather new in Poland. There is doubtless,
more than one form out there as a result. However, the ul. Kopernika 9 is
the street name and number. Piechowice is the town with "zip" and woj.
Dolnoslaskie is the "region" the town is in.)

K. Smigrodzki



< ESLVIV@...> wrote in message news:

Hi,
I was given the address below >from the Central address bureau in Poland.
How would I correctly structure the information when addressing a letter
to Poland?

58-573 Piechowice
Ul. Kopernika 9
woj. dolnoslaskie.

There are accent marks above the "s" and one below the "a" in the word
dolnoslaski. Do I need to include these accent marks in the address?

Thank you
Errol Schneegurt
LI NY
ESLVIV@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Addressing a letter to Polsnd. #general

krs <karensmi@...>
 

Hi Errol,

No, you don't need to include the accent marks in the address. It will
be understood; the meaning doesn't change. However, your top line should
be your middle line. Thus you would have:

Name of addressee
Ul. Kopernika 9
58-573 Piechowice
woj. Dolnoslaskie

(this system of addressing is rather new in Poland. There is doubtless,
more than one form out there as a result. However, the ul. Kopernika 9 is
the street name and number. Piechowice is the town with "zip" and woj.
Dolnoslaskie is the "region" the town is in.)

K. Smigrodzki



< ESLVIV@...> wrote in message news:

Hi,
I was given the address below >from the Central address bureau in Poland.
How would I correctly structure the information when addressing a letter
to Poland?

58-573 Piechowice
Ul. Kopernika 9
woj. dolnoslaskie.

There are accent marks above the "s" and one below the "a" in the word
dolnoslaski. Do I need to include these accent marks in the address?

Thank you
Errol Schneegurt
LI NY
ESLVIV@...


Re: Janischok: Galicia, Russia or Poland? #general

mo skikne
 

Can this town not be Yanishik in Northern Lithuania? Also called
variously - Yaniskius, Yanishiki, Janishkius, Joniskis,etc. Nearest large
city: Shavel/Siaulia/Shiauli. I believe that Janishok could be an
alternate town somewhere in Belarussia?

Mo Skikne

Wishing to make contact with families who emanate from: Zeimilis, Kriukiai,
Linkewe, Yanishkius, Skikniai - all in Northern Lithuania.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@...>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.jewish
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Janischok: Galicia, Russia or Poland?

"Pamela Weisberger" wrote

I need some help identifying a town that was listed in an 1895 marriage
document for Isaac ERTER as:
Janischok, Russia and...in another record: Janischok, Galicia

Does anyone know this town, which could have been in Poland, Galica, or
Russia--or, perhaps all three over a period of time?

Any suggestions on the town would be appreciated, as would anyone with
connections to the ERTER surname >from a town that sounded like this
one.

Thanks!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA

Pamela,

Town is in Lithuania, known as Joniskis.

Other known town "alternative" names are:

Janischki, Yanishke, Yanishki, Yanishok, Yenishok, Yonishkis, Yonishok,
and pobabably few more.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Janischok: Galicia, Russia or Poland? #general

mo skikne
 

Can this town not be Yanishik in Northern Lithuania? Also called
variously - Yaniskius, Yanishiki, Janishkius, Joniskis,etc. Nearest large
city: Shavel/Siaulia/Shiauli. I believe that Janishok could be an
alternate town somewhere in Belarussia?

Mo Skikne

Wishing to make contact with families who emanate from: Zeimilis, Kriukiai,
Linkewe, Yanishkius, Skikniai - all in Northern Lithuania.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@...>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.jewish
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Janischok: Galicia, Russia or Poland?

"Pamela Weisberger" wrote

I need some help identifying a town that was listed in an 1895 marriage
document for Isaac ERTER as:
Janischok, Russia and...in another record: Janischok, Galicia

Does anyone know this town, which could have been in Poland, Galica, or
Russia--or, perhaps all three over a period of time?

Any suggestions on the town would be appreciated, as would anyone with
connections to the ERTER surname >from a town that sounded like this
one.

Thanks!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA

Pamela,

Town is in Lithuania, known as Joniskis.

Other known town "alternative" names are:

Janischki, Yanishke, Yanishki, Yanishok, Yenishok, Yonishkis, Yonishok,
and pobabably few more.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary


Estera BOGDANSKA/Jewish Community in Piotrkow today #general

Zglinska, Gosia <gosia@...>
 

Dear Members,

My name is Gosia Zglinska and I am a new member of this group.
I have two questions please:

1. I am looking for information concerning The BOGDANSKI family, in
particular Mrs. Estera Bogdanski (Bogdanska, WOLSZTAJN was her maiden
name), who lived in Piotrkow Trybunalski until July 1941 when she was
taken to Auschwitz. Mrs. Bogdanska was a Bund activist and as far as I
know she was forced to work in Piotrkow's Judenrat.

I would like to find out as much as possible about her and what happened
to her after her deportation to Auschwitz in July 1941. I know that she
died in Auschwitz in February 1943. I have information about her death
certificate >from the archives of the Auschwitz Museum. I am her husband's
(Mr. Mayer/Majer Bogdanski's, friend).

I would like to find any testimonies of people who knew her before and
particularly after her arrival in the concentration camp.

2. I would also like to find out if there is any Jewish community left in
Piotrkow and if they meet anywhere and can be visited?

Thank you very much.

Kind regards,

Malgorzata Zglinska (London)

P.S.
I can explain it all in Polish as well.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Estera BOGDANSKA/Jewish Community in Piotrkow today #general

Zglinska, Gosia <gosia@...>
 

Dear Members,

My name is Gosia Zglinska and I am a new member of this group.
I have two questions please:

1. I am looking for information concerning The BOGDANSKI family, in
particular Mrs. Estera Bogdanski (Bogdanska, WOLSZTAJN was her maiden
name), who lived in Piotrkow Trybunalski until July 1941 when she was
taken to Auschwitz. Mrs. Bogdanska was a Bund activist and as far as I
know she was forced to work in Piotrkow's Judenrat.

I would like to find out as much as possible about her and what happened
to her after her deportation to Auschwitz in July 1941. I know that she
died in Auschwitz in February 1943. I have information about her death
certificate >from the archives of the Auschwitz Museum. I am her husband's
(Mr. Mayer/Majer Bogdanski's, friend).

I would like to find any testimonies of people who knew her before and
particularly after her arrival in the concentration camp.

2. I would also like to find out if there is any Jewish community left in
Piotrkow and if they meet anywhere and can be visited?

Thank you very much.

Kind regards,

Malgorzata Zglinska (London)

P.S.
I can explain it all in Polish as well.

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information about a specific individual; information of general interest
may be sent to the Discussion Group.


Help in Washington DC #general

NormTillman@...
 

I need help in Washington, DC. I'm trying to locate the death records of
Joseph Schmidt. He appears in the 1930 census and I know he died in the
mid to late 1930s. All sources that I go to want to supply me information
about living people, while I'm trying to get the death record. Even
Ancestry.com has been unable to find him. His wife's name was Rose and I
remember my mother refering to her as Tanta Rosie, but I have no proof of
that relationship. His (Joseph) death certificate is the key which will
enable me to place the entire Schmidt family into my the family history.
Some say Joseph was my mother's brother, but I can't except that besause
of "Tanta Rosie" I clain that he was my mother's father's brother thus
being my Great Uncle. But, in my generation there is confusion about
Joseph and his relationship to us.

Joseph was born in Lithuania and his family name was Daviduvitch. He left
Lithuania for Germany, changed his name to Schmidt and came to this
country going directly to the Washington, DC area. He and Rose raised
their family in the Washington area and the one son that I know about was
named Louis. He became a patent attorney, eorked in New York city and
lived with his wife in Stanford, Connecticut until his death.

I had hoped to go to Washington for the summer seminar, but unfortunatly
my health didn't allow it and is still keeping me home. In the meantime
I'm running into stone walls!! Is there anyone of there in Gennerland who
can assist me with this project. Beleive me when I say any help will be
greatly appreciated.

Norman Tillman
Albany, NY
normtillman@...

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obtaining vital records may be helpful and can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#Vitals


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help in Washington DC #general

NormTillman@...
 

I need help in Washington, DC. I'm trying to locate the death records of
Joseph Schmidt. He appears in the 1930 census and I know he died in the
mid to late 1930s. All sources that I go to want to supply me information
about living people, while I'm trying to get the death record. Even
Ancestry.com has been unable to find him. His wife's name was Rose and I
remember my mother refering to her as Tanta Rosie, but I have no proof of
that relationship. His (Joseph) death certificate is the key which will
enable me to place the entire Schmidt family into my the family history.
Some say Joseph was my mother's brother, but I can't except that besause
of "Tanta Rosie" I clain that he was my mother's father's brother thus
being my Great Uncle. But, in my generation there is confusion about
Joseph and his relationship to us.

Joseph was born in Lithuania and his family name was Daviduvitch. He left
Lithuania for Germany, changed his name to Schmidt and came to this
country going directly to the Washington, DC area. He and Rose raised
their family in the Washington area and the one son that I know about was
named Louis. He became a patent attorney, eorked in New York city and
lived with his wife in Stanford, Connecticut until his death.

I had hoped to go to Washington for the summer seminar, but unfortunatly
my health didn't allow it and is still keeping me home. In the meantime
I'm running into stone walls!! Is there anyone of there in Gennerland who
can assist me with this project. Beleive me when I say any help will be
greatly appreciated.

Norman Tillman
Albany, NY
normtillman@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately. The JewishGen InfoFile on
obtaining vital records may be helpful and can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#Vitals


Saul and Goldie KLASS #general

Mike Klass <peapod@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for relatives of Saul and Goldie Klass, brother and sister
from Obeliai, Lithiania. My grandfather Isidore Klass and his brothers and
sisters came >from Obelia.

Please reply!

Mike Klass

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Saul and Goldie KLASS #general

Mike Klass <peapod@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for relatives of Saul and Goldie Klass, brother and sister
from Obeliai, Lithiania. My grandfather Isidore Klass and his brothers and
sisters came >from Obelia.

Please reply!

Mike Klass

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More Latke Intrigue #germany

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

One response to my posting of yesterday helped me to clarify the direction
my research should be taking. As a result, I've been searching the Gersig
archives and found that if I enter years, I find that Jews were definitely
being expelled >from various locations in Germany in the early 1700's. Not
exactly a surprise, but I was hoping to narrow down a location for my
ancestors in this manner. That is obviously beyond the scope of the
database. I realize that I need to read a history of the expulsions or,
even easier, to pick the brains of history buffs (are you reading this
Michael Bernet?).

I'm looking for expulsions and/or forced conversions that occurred
in Germany in the 1730's.

The same response brought up an interesting point: why is it that the
KOPELMANs had this surname in Germany, in the 1700's? The Lutheran
KOPELMANs that converted and stayed in Germany when the rest of the clan
left in 1734 or so, retain the surname. I have long known that KOPELMAN is
really the same surname as KAUFFMAN and derives >from the kinui for Yaakov,
Koppel.

KAUFFMAN would be the more likely choice for a German Jew, but KOPELMAN
would be used by Litvaks. It's intriguing. I'm beginning to wonder if the
KOPELMAN clan were in Lithuania, then Germany, then went back to Lithuania,
once again.

Varda Epstein Efrat Israel yknow@...


German SIG #Germany More Latke Intrigue #germany

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

One response to my posting of yesterday helped me to clarify the direction
my research should be taking. As a result, I've been searching the Gersig
archives and found that if I enter years, I find that Jews were definitely
being expelled >from various locations in Germany in the early 1700's. Not
exactly a surprise, but I was hoping to narrow down a location for my
ancestors in this manner. That is obviously beyond the scope of the
database. I realize that I need to read a history of the expulsions or,
even easier, to pick the brains of history buffs (are you reading this
Michael Bernet?).

I'm looking for expulsions and/or forced conversions that occurred
in Germany in the 1730's.

The same response brought up an interesting point: why is it that the
KOPELMANs had this surname in Germany, in the 1700's? The Lutheran
KOPELMANs that converted and stayed in Germany when the rest of the clan
left in 1734 or so, retain the surname. I have long known that KOPELMAN is
really the same surname as KAUFFMAN and derives >from the kinui for Yaakov,
Koppel.

KAUFFMAN would be the more likely choice for a German Jew, but KOPELMAN
would be used by Litvaks. It's intriguing. I'm beginning to wonder if the
KOPELMAN clan were in Lithuania, then Germany, then went back to Lithuania,
once again.

Varda Epstein Efrat Israel yknow@...


Central archive for the History of the Jewish People #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Here is *not complete* list of documents which i have found in Central
archive for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem for a number
of "my" shtetls:

Place Document Type Years
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mir Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1866
Volyn gubernia List of sick soldiers 1835
Melitopol List of donators for synagogue 1912
Mstislav,
Skvira Lists of merchants 1831-1832
Chausy Lists of merchants ????
Chausy,
Khislavichi Lists of printing-houses owners ????
Chervonnoe Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1845
HM2/9342.15
Chervonnoe weddings 1853-1854
Chervonnoe weddings 1854, 1857
Chervonnoe births 1863-1874
Khislavichi Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1895
Mlinov ???? 1843
Mlinov Lists of "heder"s teachers 1846-1852,1856
Mir Lists of "heder"s teachers 1846-1852
Mir Metrics 1849
Baranovka,
Polonnoe Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1846
Vitebsk gubernia Lists of merchants 1827

Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi
(Mstislav uyezd), Kharkov BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Povolzh'e ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia),
Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir LAMDAN, LAMDIN- Mlinov ZHURAHOV,
ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo (Skvir uyezd), Zhitomir
KELMAN- Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@...
web: http://www.identify.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Central archive for the History of the Jewish People #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Here is *not complete* list of documents which i have found in Central
archive for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem for a number
of "my" shtetls:

Place Document Type Years
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mir Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1866
Volyn gubernia List of sick soldiers 1835
Melitopol List of donators for synagogue 1912
Mstislav,
Skvira Lists of merchants 1831-1832
Chausy Lists of merchants ????
Chausy,
Khislavichi Lists of printing-houses owners ????
Chervonnoe Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1845
HM2/9342.15
Chervonnoe weddings 1853-1854
Chervonnoe weddings 1854, 1857
Chervonnoe births 1863-1874
Khislavichi Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1895
Mlinov ???? 1843
Mlinov Lists of "heder"s teachers 1846-1852,1856
Mir Lists of "heder"s teachers 1846-1852
Mir Metrics 1849
Baranovka,
Polonnoe Lists of "heder"s teachers and learners 1846
Vitebsk gubernia Lists of merchants 1827

Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi
(Mstislav uyezd), Kharkov BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Povolzh'e ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia),
Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir LAMDAN, LAMDIN- Mlinov ZHURAHOV,
ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo (Skvir uyezd), Zhitomir
KELMAN- Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@...
web: http://www.identify.com


Computerizing Records in Bratislava #general

Tovia J. Frazer <ToviaF@...>
 

Would anyone know if any work has been done to computerize the genealogy
information that is known to be available in Bratislava today?

Please respond privately.

Mr. Tovia Frazer
Brooklyn, NY

Researching:

FRUCHTER, FRANKEL (Vienna, Rozhnyativ)
SCHWARZ, KORNFEIN, GERSTL (Lackenbach, Miskolc)
ZARNICER, WEISS, OBSTFELD, DATTNER (Krakow)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Computerizing Records in Bratislava #general

Tovia J. Frazer <ToviaF@...>
 

Would anyone know if any work has been done to computerize the genealogy
information that is known to be available in Bratislava today?

Please respond privately.

Mr. Tovia Frazer
Brooklyn, NY

Researching:

FRUCHTER, FRANKEL (Vienna, Rozhnyativ)
SCHWARZ, KORNFEIN, GERSTL (Lackenbach, Miskolc)
ZARNICER, WEISS, OBSTFELD, DATTNER (Krakow)


Searching SHAPIRO family #general

Thia Persoff
 

While searching for my NEPOMNYASHCHY cousins and their family (>from
Pochep), who immigrated to the U.S.A. in 1923, I saw in the Ellis Island
passenger records that they were going to stay at their son-in-law David
SHAPIRO. If any of you have any information that can help me to contact
those Shapiros and Nepomnyashchys and/or their descendents I would highly
appreciate it.

Thia Persoff
Cambria, California.
thiap2@...

Searching:
PERSOV, PERSOFF, (& similar spellings].
SUBOVICH, NEPOMNYASHCHY.
GITLIN, VAINER.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching SHAPIRO family #general

Thia Persoff
 

While searching for my NEPOMNYASHCHY cousins and their family (>from
Pochep), who immigrated to the U.S.A. in 1923, I saw in the Ellis Island
passenger records that they were going to stay at their son-in-law David
SHAPIRO. If any of you have any information that can help me to contact
those Shapiros and Nepomnyashchys and/or their descendents I would highly
appreciate it.

Thia Persoff
Cambria, California.
thiap2@...

Searching:
PERSOV, PERSOFF, (& similar spellings].
SUBOVICH, NEPOMNYASHCHY.
GITLIN, VAINER.

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Romanian Names #romania

Adam Eisen <aeisen@...>
 

Am I correct in assuming that someone with the last name of Marcovici
could be the son of someone withe last name of Marcu, or Jancovici for
Jancu.? Was this common practice?

Adam Eisen
Stockholm, Sweden

Researching EISENSTEIN, MALICKSON (to Philadelphia via England from
Bessarabia), SATTIN SATANOFSKYMOSKOWITZ(to NY and Philadelphia from
Kiev, Ukraine), LUSTMAN, SCHWARTZ ACKER (to Philadelphia and Atlantic
City >from Botosani, Romania) RUBENSTEIN (to Philadephia, Brooklyn, and
South Africa >from Courland, Latvia), ROONEY (to NY and Philadelphia from
Braila, Romania), JANCOVICI (>from Braila, Romania).


Romania SIG #Romania Romanian Names #romania

Adam Eisen <aeisen@...>
 

Am I correct in assuming that someone with the last name of Marcovici
could be the son of someone withe last name of Marcu, or Jancovici for
Jancu.? Was this common practice?

Adam Eisen
Stockholm, Sweden

Researching EISENSTEIN, MALICKSON (to Philadelphia via England from
Bessarabia), SATTIN SATANOFSKYMOSKOWITZ(to NY and Philadelphia from
Kiev, Ukraine), LUSTMAN, SCHWARTZ ACKER (to Philadelphia and Atlantic
City >from Botosani, Romania) RUBENSTEIN (to Philadephia, Brooklyn, and
South Africa >from Courland, Latvia), ROONEY (to NY and Philadelphia from
Braila, Romania), JANCOVICI (>from Braila, Romania).