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Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003 #unitedkingdom

Peter Hills <Pmhills@...>
 

1948/5/10
SHAPERO Cissie
34
Home duties
North St. 170
SHAPERO Isaac (decd)

1947/2/4
SHAPIRO Barnet
26
Market salesman
Conway Drive 10
SHAPIRO Myer

1945/7/10
SHAPIRO Edward Joseph
27
Furniture dealer/Pte. C65442 Canadian Army
Hawkshead Cresc.35 Seacroft
SHAPIRO William

1903/8/12
SHAPIRO Joshua
26
Traveller
Badminton St. 30
SHAPIRO Emanuel (decd)

1919/8/17
SHAPIRO Nellie
28
Tailoress
Sheepscar Place 13
SHAPIRO Elman




1881/10/26
LIVENSTEIN Samuel
23
Hawker Licd.
St Albans St. 28
LIVENSTEIN David

1881/10/26
LIVENSTEIN Samuel
23
Hawker Licd.
St Albans St. 28
LIVENSTEIN David

1958/8/24
LIVINGSTONE Audrey Ruby
24
Pharmacist
75 Malford Court London E18
LIVINGSTONE Louis

1953/6/1
LIVINGSTONE Betty Goldie
28
Pharmacist
Street Lane 468
LIVINGSTONE Louis

1936/9/13
LIVINGSTONE Ellen
35
Tailoress
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1936/5/24
LIVINGSTONE Esther Kate
40
Shop assistant (gowns)
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1928/11/27
LIVINGSTONE Harry
25
Financier
14 Arnside Rd. Southport
LIVINGSTONE Lewis

1911/8/23
LIVINGSTONE Joe
24
Tailors machinist
Crawford St. 13
LIVINGSTONE Barnet

1921/11/15
LIVINGSTONE Louis
30
Chemist
2 The Crescent, Broad St. Birmingham
LIVINGSTONE Simon

1886/6/30
LIVINGSTONE Rachel
21
Tailoress
Little Templar St. 11
LIVINGSTONE Morris

1912/11/20
LIVINGSTONE Solomon
26
Wood carver
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1924/9/23
LIVINGSTONE Sophia
30
Dressmaker
Crawford St. 13
LIVINGSTONE Barnet

1963/5/12
LIVINGSTONE Stanley
30
Medical practitioner
Moorland Drve 21
LIVINGSTONE Alec




Your "model" introduction deserves a response and so I looked up my records
of Jewish marriages in Leeds (date of marriage, groom/bride age home address
father) and found above which may be of interest. Another source you should
pursue are records of UK Naturalisations held at Public Record Office at
Kew. I go occasionally and cd check the index (no costs involved) but wd
have to charge for copying and posting files etc. I am on list of
genealogists held by Jewish Genealogy Society of GB but you may be a member
already.

Hope this is helpful.

Peter Hills
London UK


Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003 #unitedkingdom

Angie Elfassi
 

Julie - in the 60's there was a singer "Helaine
Shapira/o" maybe a relation? Perhaps other listers can
correct me on the spelling of her name

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003 #unitedkingdom

Peter Hills <Pmhills@...>
 

1948/5/10
SHAPERO Cissie
34
Home duties
North St. 170
SHAPERO Isaac (decd)

1947/2/4
SHAPIRO Barnet
26
Market salesman
Conway Drive 10
SHAPIRO Myer

1945/7/10
SHAPIRO Edward Joseph
27
Furniture dealer/Pte. C65442 Canadian Army
Hawkshead Cresc.35 Seacroft
SHAPIRO William

1903/8/12
SHAPIRO Joshua
26
Traveller
Badminton St. 30
SHAPIRO Emanuel (decd)

1919/8/17
SHAPIRO Nellie
28
Tailoress
Sheepscar Place 13
SHAPIRO Elman




1881/10/26
LIVENSTEIN Samuel
23
Hawker Licd.
St Albans St. 28
LIVENSTEIN David

1881/10/26
LIVENSTEIN Samuel
23
Hawker Licd.
St Albans St. 28
LIVENSTEIN David

1958/8/24
LIVINGSTONE Audrey Ruby
24
Pharmacist
75 Malford Court London E18
LIVINGSTONE Louis

1953/6/1
LIVINGSTONE Betty Goldie
28
Pharmacist
Street Lane 468
LIVINGSTONE Louis

1936/9/13
LIVINGSTONE Ellen
35
Tailoress
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1936/5/24
LIVINGSTONE Esther Kate
40
Shop assistant (gowns)
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1928/11/27
LIVINGSTONE Harry
25
Financier
14 Arnside Rd. Southport
LIVINGSTONE Lewis

1911/8/23
LIVINGSTONE Joe
24
Tailors machinist
Crawford St. 13
LIVINGSTONE Barnet

1921/11/15
LIVINGSTONE Louis
30
Chemist
2 The Crescent, Broad St. Birmingham
LIVINGSTONE Simon

1886/6/30
LIVINGSTONE Rachel
21
Tailoress
Little Templar St. 11
LIVINGSTONE Morris

1912/11/20
LIVINGSTONE Solomon
26
Wood carver
Cooper St. 16
LIVINGSTONE Barnett

1924/9/23
LIVINGSTONE Sophia
30
Dressmaker
Crawford St. 13
LIVINGSTONE Barnet

1963/5/12
LIVINGSTONE Stanley
30
Medical practitioner
Moorland Drve 21
LIVINGSTONE Alec




Your "model" introduction deserves a response and so I looked up my records
of Jewish marriages in Leeds (date of marriage, groom/bride age home address
father) and found above which may be of interest. Another source you should
pursue are records of UK Naturalisations held at Public Record Office at
Kew. I go occasionally and cd check the index (no costs involved) but wd
have to charge for copying and posting files etc. I am on list of
genealogists held by Jewish Genealogy Society of GB but you may be a member
already.

Hope this is helpful.

Peter Hills
London UK


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003 #unitedkingdom

Angie Elfassi
 

Julie - in the 60's there was a singer "Helaine
Shapira/o" maybe a relation? Perhaps other listers can
correct me on the spelling of her name

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel


a success story andsome advice #france

Dottie Miller
 

Dear Genners;

One of the reasons we post messages on this SIG and put our .ged family
files on the FTJP is to advertise our family names to related
descendants of our existence and of our desire to be "found." I was
"found" last week by a branch of our family! My postings had been placed
with this particularly lost branch in mind, a branch with many daughters
whose married names were unknown to the family I have known about.
Needles to say, we are busy exchanging information. One family story on
our side, that one unfortunate cousin in New Orleans, LA USA had been
kidnapped off the street and never heard >from again, a sad but not
unusual occurance in a port city where foreign sailors took strong young
men as virtual slaves to labor onboard ships. The descendant who found
me had a story specific to that unfortunate young man, that he had gone
out one evening to buy himself a cigar and never returned.

I have noticed that many people who write the SIG do not bother to put a
list of the family names they are researching at the bottom of their
messages and would like to urge everyone to make it a practice for every
e-mail they post on the site. The day you post for the umpteeneth time
may be the first time exactly the descendant you have been hoping will
contact you looks at the SIG.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

PICKART >from Gerstheim; DREYFUS >from Brumath, Duppigheim and Gerstheim;
GUGENHEIM >from Breisach and Ihringen, Baden, and New Orleans, LA USA;
FRANCK >from Gerstheim; BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim; LEVI >from Dambach,
Duppigheim and Diebolsheim; WEYL >from Mutzig; BLOCH >from Weshoffen


French SIG #France a success story andsome advice #france

Dottie Miller
 

Dear Genners;

One of the reasons we post messages on this SIG and put our .ged family
files on the FTJP is to advertise our family names to related
descendants of our existence and of our desire to be "found." I was
"found" last week by a branch of our family! My postings had been placed
with this particularly lost branch in mind, a branch with many daughters
whose married names were unknown to the family I have known about.
Needles to say, we are busy exchanging information. One family story on
our side, that one unfortunate cousin in New Orleans, LA USA had been
kidnapped off the street and never heard >from again, a sad but not
unusual occurance in a port city where foreign sailors took strong young
men as virtual slaves to labor onboard ships. The descendant who found
me had a story specific to that unfortunate young man, that he had gone
out one evening to buy himself a cigar and never returned.

I have noticed that many people who write the SIG do not bother to put a
list of the family names they are researching at the bottom of their
messages and would like to urge everyone to make it a practice for every
e-mail they post on the site. The day you post for the umpteeneth time
may be the first time exactly the descendant you have been hoping will
contact you looks at the SIG.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

PICKART >from Gerstheim; DREYFUS >from Brumath, Duppigheim and Gerstheim;
GUGENHEIM >from Breisach and Ihringen, Baden, and New Orleans, LA USA;
FRANCK >from Gerstheim; BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim; LEVI >from Dambach,
Duppigheim and Diebolsheim; WEYL >from Mutzig; BLOCH >from Weshoffen


1784 Census #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

the 17th family of Dirmenach (Durmenach) is Meyer LEVY with wife Merla
there are 5 sons: Seeligmann, Hisschel, Schmais, Nathan and Leopold
and
3 daughters: Riffga, Hindel and Klar.
On my data base I have a Meyer LEVY with wife Merle HAUSER married
27 Aug 1753 in Luemschwiller (per Fraenckel) with 7 children
Gittel, Klar, Seligman, Schmais, Rivka, Hindel and Nephtali.

I believe that the match is prety good that these are the same family.
Anyone have any comments.

Pierre Hahn, San Francisco


New Holocaust Database entries #france

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce five new entries in the Holocaust
Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

-Polish Martyred Physicians
-North Bavarian Jews
-Jewish Survivors listed in a Hungarian Periodical
-Refugees >from France to Brazil
-Braunschweig Cemetery for Forced Laborers

The Dachau Concentration Camp Records have also been updated. Over
100,000 records are now online.

The Holocaust Database is a collection of 62 databases, containing
over 500,000 entries. All databases are searchable at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ by surname, town, or
global text search.

Our sincere thanks to all the volunteers who worked on these important lists.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Research
jfield@jewishgen.org


French SIG #France 1784 Census #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

the 17th family of Dirmenach (Durmenach) is Meyer LEVY with wife Merla
there are 5 sons: Seeligmann, Hisschel, Schmais, Nathan and Leopold
and
3 daughters: Riffga, Hindel and Klar.
On my data base I have a Meyer LEVY with wife Merle HAUSER married
27 Aug 1753 in Luemschwiller (per Fraenckel) with 7 children
Gittel, Klar, Seligman, Schmais, Rivka, Hindel and Nephtali.

I believe that the match is prety good that these are the same family.
Anyone have any comments.

Pierre Hahn, San Francisco


French SIG #France New Holocaust Database entries #france

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce five new entries in the Holocaust
Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

-Polish Martyred Physicians
-North Bavarian Jews
-Jewish Survivors listed in a Hungarian Periodical
-Refugees >from France to Brazil
-Braunschweig Cemetery for Forced Laborers

The Dachau Concentration Camp Records have also been updated. Over
100,000 records are now online.

The Holocaust Database is a collection of 62 databases, containing
over 500,000 entries. All databases are searchable at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ by surname, town, or
global text search.

Our sincere thanks to all the volunteers who worked on these important lists.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Research
jfield@jewishgen.org


Translating Russian in on-line image of marriage record #poland

Weiner, Joel A. <Joel.Weiner@...>
 

I have obtained a marriage record the >from the Bialstok Archives for
what may be the brother (Gutman Endewelt) of my great-grandfather. I
would appreciate it if anyone could translate both the column headings
and the handwritten record.

The image is at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3207

Thanks in advance,

Joel Weiner

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND BY POSTING TO THIS SIG, BUT INSTEAD DIRECTLY TO MY
EMAIL AT JOEL.WEINER@JHUAPL.EDU.


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Translating Russian in on-line image of marriage record #poland

Weiner, Joel A. <Joel.Weiner@...>
 

I have obtained a marriage record the >from the Bialstok Archives for
what may be the brother (Gutman Endewelt) of my great-grandfather. I
would appreciate it if anyone could translate both the column headings
and the handwritten record.

The image is at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3207

Thanks in advance,

Joel Weiner

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND BY POSTING TO THIS SIG, BUT INSTEAD DIRECTLY TO MY
EMAIL AT JOEL.WEINER@JHUAPL.EDU.


LERNER from Ukraine #general

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I am looking for descendants or information about the following LERNER
brothers:

Israel Abraham (Srul) LERNER, b. about 1839-1849, was Rabbi in Tereshpol
and later Balin in Ukraine.

Mordecai LERNER, was rabbi in Munkacs.

Mendel (Menachem Mendel) LERNER, was rabbi in Kitaygorod. Had one son that
we know about, Shevach.

They also had a brother Samuel and at least two sisters, and their parents
were Shevach and Devora.

Thanks for any information.

Anita Springer
Boston


Maidanek #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

A reference to a transport >from Medzilaborce (Slovakia) which included an
aunt and uncle of my mother-in-law, includes the note "this transport was
taken to Pulawy, in Poland." The family "knows" that they were killed in
Maidanek.

I don't know the geography here. Are these two pieces of information
consistent or contradictory?

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LERNER from Ukraine #general

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I am looking for descendants or information about the following LERNER
brothers:

Israel Abraham (Srul) LERNER, b. about 1839-1849, was Rabbi in Tereshpol
and later Balin in Ukraine.

Mordecai LERNER, was rabbi in Munkacs.

Mendel (Menachem Mendel) LERNER, was rabbi in Kitaygorod. Had one son that
we know about, Shevach.

They also had a brother Samuel and at least two sisters, and their parents
were Shevach and Devora.

Thanks for any information.

Anita Springer
Boston


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Maidanek #general

Israel P <isai8v10@...>
 

A reference to a transport >from Medzilaborce (Slovakia) which included an
aunt and uncle of my mother-in-law, includes the note "this transport was
taken to Pulawy, in Poland." The family "knows" that they were killed in
Maidanek.

I don't know the geography here. Are these two pieces of information
consistent or contradictory?

Israel Pickholtz


Records in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

I have just learnt that a possible part of my great grandfather's family
in Lithuania (Zeimiai and Janova) moved to the above in the Ukraine,
around the middle of the 19th century.

The surname is KAMENSHCHIK which I am led to believe is not a very common
surname. There were two children that we are told were born in
Dnepropetrovsk around that time and their names were Yuda and Aron.

Can any of the experts throw any light on my next move or what I should do
or could do to find out more?

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester England

Still researching:-

KAMINSKY (KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova (Jonava)and Zeimiai nr Kovno, Lithuania
2) Nosson Eliazar, Harris, Joseph & Sarah DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia,
Lithuania 3)  Newman, Emmanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY and their parents
Chana & Yehuda LEWIN >from KROSNIEWICE in Poland  4)  Isaac & Rebecca
COHEN  >from Poland 5) Chaim & Rebecca ESTRY (nee GROSSMAN)  a glazier >from
Poland 6)  GOLDBERG (possibly SCHELSINGER OR SCHELINGER or SCHLUZITEL)


LANE, STOLOFF, PODALSKY, GELLER, ZINN, SULTAN #general

SingingTM@...
 

To my great surprise, I found that a previously unknown cousin had posted
a family tree on the Internet. I am looking for connections to any of the
following, believed to have lived in the US initially in New York and New
Jersey, and are related to my LANE family >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or
other towns in the Panevezys district.

Bessie (Betty), Irene, Isadore or Israel, Yetta BARASCH
Seymour BROWN
Nat CHORDASH
Harry, June, Michael EDELMAN
Morris FISHMAN
Al FROST
Benjamin, Marilyn GELLER
Harry HABER
Louis, Mary, Nathan KAPLAN
Amor, Anna, Benjamin, Esther, George, Gershon, Hilda, Isadore, Kenneth, Lily,
Meyer, Miriam, Reba, Sylvia LANE
Martin MEISEL
PEARL
Blanche (Birdie) PODALSKY
RAVEN or RAVIN or RAVINITSKY or RAVNITSKY
RITCHKOFF
RODENBEEK
STEIFEL
Fannie, Hyman, Lillian, Louis, Michael D., Rachel, Rose, Solomon STOLOFF
SULTAN
YUDELOWITZ
YUNI
Victor ZINN

Please respond privately.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, MD
SingingTM@aol.com

Researching:
LANE, LAN, YUDELOWITZ, FINKELSTEIN, BLANKFORD, WHITEMAN, WEINER, >from
Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

I have just learnt that a possible part of my great grandfather's family
in Lithuania (Zeimiai and Janova) moved to the above in the Ukraine,
around the middle of the 19th century.

The surname is KAMENSHCHIK which I am led to believe is not a very common
surname. There were two children that we are told were born in
Dnepropetrovsk around that time and their names were Yuda and Aron.

Can any of the experts throw any light on my next move or what I should do
or could do to find out more?

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester England

Still researching:-

KAMINSKY (KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova (Jonava)and Zeimiai nr Kovno, Lithuania
2) Nosson Eliazar, Harris, Joseph & Sarah DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia,
Lithuania 3)  Newman, Emmanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY and their parents
Chana & Yehuda LEWIN >from KROSNIEWICE in Poland  4)  Isaac & Rebecca
COHEN  >from Poland 5) Chaim & Rebecca ESTRY (nee GROSSMAN)  a glazier >from
Poland 6)  GOLDBERG (possibly SCHELSINGER OR SCHELINGER or SCHLUZITEL)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LANE, STOLOFF, PODALSKY, GELLER, ZINN, SULTAN #general

SingingTM@...
 

To my great surprise, I found that a previously unknown cousin had posted
a family tree on the Internet. I am looking for connections to any of the
following, believed to have lived in the US initially in New York and New
Jersey, and are related to my LANE family >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or
other towns in the Panevezys district.

Bessie (Betty), Irene, Isadore or Israel, Yetta BARASCH
Seymour BROWN
Nat CHORDASH
Harry, June, Michael EDELMAN
Morris FISHMAN
Al FROST
Benjamin, Marilyn GELLER
Harry HABER
Louis, Mary, Nathan KAPLAN
Amor, Anna, Benjamin, Esther, George, Gershon, Hilda, Isadore, Kenneth, Lily,
Meyer, Miriam, Reba, Sylvia LANE
Martin MEISEL
PEARL
Blanche (Birdie) PODALSKY
RAVEN or RAVIN or RAVINITSKY or RAVNITSKY
RITCHKOFF
RODENBEEK
STEIFEL
Fannie, Hyman, Lillian, Louis, Michael D., Rachel, Rose, Solomon STOLOFF
SULTAN
YUDELOWITZ
YUNI
Victor ZINN

Please respond privately.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, MD
SingingTM@aol.com

Researching:
LANE, LAN, YUDELOWITZ, FINKELSTEIN, BLANKFORD, WHITEMAN, WEINER, >from
Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district.