Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003
#unitedkingdom
Peter Hills <Pmhills@...>
1948/5/10
SHAPERO Cissie 34 Home duties North St. 170 SHAPERO Isaac (decd) 1947/2/4 SHAPIRO Barnet 26 Market salesman Conway Drive 10 SHAPIRO Myer 1945/7/10 SHAPIRO Edward Joseph 27 Furniture dealer/Pte. C65442 Canadian Army Hawkshead Cresc.35 Seacroft SHAPIRO William 1903/8/12 SHAPIRO Joshua 26 Traveller Badminton St. 30 SHAPIRO Emanuel (decd) 1919/8/17 SHAPIRO Nellie 28 Tailoress Sheepscar Place 13 SHAPIRO Elman 1881/10/26 LIVENSTEIN Samuel 23 Hawker Licd. St Albans St. 28 LIVENSTEIN David 1881/10/26 LIVENSTEIN Samuel 23 Hawker Licd. St Albans St. 28 LIVENSTEIN David 1958/8/24 LIVINGSTONE Audrey Ruby 24 Pharmacist 75 Malford Court London E18 LIVINGSTONE Louis 1953/6/1 LIVINGSTONE Betty Goldie 28 Pharmacist Street Lane 468 LIVINGSTONE Louis 1936/9/13 LIVINGSTONE Ellen 35 Tailoress Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1936/5/24 LIVINGSTONE Esther Kate 40 Shop assistant (gowns) Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1928/11/27 LIVINGSTONE Harry 25 Financier 14 Arnside Rd. Southport LIVINGSTONE Lewis 1911/8/23 LIVINGSTONE Joe 24 Tailors machinist Crawford St. 13 LIVINGSTONE Barnet 1921/11/15 LIVINGSTONE Louis 30 Chemist 2 The Crescent, Broad St. Birmingham LIVINGSTONE Simon 1886/6/30 LIVINGSTONE Rachel 21 Tailoress Little Templar St. 11 LIVINGSTONE Morris 1912/11/20 LIVINGSTONE Solomon 26 Wood carver Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1924/9/23 LIVINGSTONE Sophia 30 Dressmaker Crawford St. 13 LIVINGSTONE Barnet 1963/5/12 LIVINGSTONE Stanley 30 Medical practitioner Moorland Drve 21 LIVINGSTONE Alec Your "model" introduction deserves a response and so I looked up my records of Jewish marriages in Leeds (date of marriage, groom/bride age home address father) and found above which may be of interest. Another source you should pursue are records of UK Naturalisations held at Public Record Office at Kew. I go occasionally and cd check the index (no costs involved) but wd have to charge for copying and posting files etc. I am on list of genealogists held by Jewish Genealogy Society of GB but you may be a member already. Hope this is helpful. Peter Hills London UK
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Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003
#unitedkingdom
Angie Elfassi
Julie - in the 60's there was a singer "Helaine
Shapira/o" maybe a relation? Perhaps other listers can correct me on the spelling of her name Regards Angie Elfassi Israel
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003
#unitedkingdom
Peter Hills <Pmhills@...>
1948/5/10
SHAPERO Cissie 34 Home duties North St. 170 SHAPERO Isaac (decd) 1947/2/4 SHAPIRO Barnet 26 Market salesman Conway Drive 10 SHAPIRO Myer 1945/7/10 SHAPIRO Edward Joseph 27 Furniture dealer/Pte. C65442 Canadian Army Hawkshead Cresc.35 Seacroft SHAPIRO William 1903/8/12 SHAPIRO Joshua 26 Traveller Badminton St. 30 SHAPIRO Emanuel (decd) 1919/8/17 SHAPIRO Nellie 28 Tailoress Sheepscar Place 13 SHAPIRO Elman 1881/10/26 LIVENSTEIN Samuel 23 Hawker Licd. St Albans St. 28 LIVENSTEIN David 1881/10/26 LIVENSTEIN Samuel 23 Hawker Licd. St Albans St. 28 LIVENSTEIN David 1958/8/24 LIVINGSTONE Audrey Ruby 24 Pharmacist 75 Malford Court London E18 LIVINGSTONE Louis 1953/6/1 LIVINGSTONE Betty Goldie 28 Pharmacist Street Lane 468 LIVINGSTONE Louis 1936/9/13 LIVINGSTONE Ellen 35 Tailoress Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1936/5/24 LIVINGSTONE Esther Kate 40 Shop assistant (gowns) Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1928/11/27 LIVINGSTONE Harry 25 Financier 14 Arnside Rd. Southport LIVINGSTONE Lewis 1911/8/23 LIVINGSTONE Joe 24 Tailors machinist Crawford St. 13 LIVINGSTONE Barnet 1921/11/15 LIVINGSTONE Louis 30 Chemist 2 The Crescent, Broad St. Birmingham LIVINGSTONE Simon 1886/6/30 LIVINGSTONE Rachel 21 Tailoress Little Templar St. 11 LIVINGSTONE Morris 1912/11/20 LIVINGSTONE Solomon 26 Wood carver Cooper St. 16 LIVINGSTONE Barnett 1924/9/23 LIVINGSTONE Sophia 30 Dressmaker Crawford St. 13 LIVINGSTONE Barnet 1963/5/12 LIVINGSTONE Stanley 30 Medical practitioner Moorland Drve 21 LIVINGSTONE Alec Your "model" introduction deserves a response and so I looked up my records of Jewish marriages in Leeds (date of marriage, groom/bride age home address father) and found above which may be of interest. Another source you should pursue are records of UK Naturalisations held at Public Record Office at Kew. I go occasionally and cd check the index (no costs involved) but wd have to charge for copying and posting files etc. I am on list of genealogists held by Jewish Genealogy Society of GB but you may be a member already. Hope this is helpful. Peter Hills London UK
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: December 06, 2003
#unitedkingdom
Angie Elfassi
Julie - in the 60's there was a singer "Helaine
Shapira/o" maybe a relation? Perhaps other listers can correct me on the spelling of her name Regards Angie Elfassi Israel
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a success story andsome advice
#france
Dottie Miller
Dear Genners;
One of the reasons we post messages on this SIG and put our .ged family files on the FTJP is to advertise our family names to related descendants of our existence and of our desire to be "found." I was "found" last week by a branch of our family! My postings had been placed with this particularly lost branch in mind, a branch with many daughters whose married names were unknown to the family I have known about. Needles to say, we are busy exchanging information. One family story on our side, that one unfortunate cousin in New Orleans, LA USA had been kidnapped off the street and never heard >from again, a sad but not unusual occurance in a port city where foreign sailors took strong young men as virtual slaves to labor onboard ships. The descendant who found me had a story specific to that unfortunate young man, that he had gone out one evening to buy himself a cigar and never returned. I have noticed that many people who write the SIG do not bother to put a list of the family names they are researching at the bottom of their messages and would like to urge everyone to make it a practice for every e-mail they post on the site. The day you post for the umpteeneth time may be the first time exactly the descendant you have been hoping will contact you looks at the SIG. Dottie Miller San Antonio, TX USA PICKART >from Gerstheim; DREYFUS >from Brumath, Duppigheim and Gerstheim; GUGENHEIM >from Breisach and Ihringen, Baden, and New Orleans, LA USA; FRANCK >from Gerstheim; BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim; LEVI >from Dambach, Duppigheim and Diebolsheim; WEYL >from Mutzig; BLOCH >from Weshoffen
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French SIG #France a success story andsome advice
#france
Dottie Miller
Dear Genners;
One of the reasons we post messages on this SIG and put our .ged family files on the FTJP is to advertise our family names to related descendants of our existence and of our desire to be "found." I was "found" last week by a branch of our family! My postings had been placed with this particularly lost branch in mind, a branch with many daughters whose married names were unknown to the family I have known about. Needles to say, we are busy exchanging information. One family story on our side, that one unfortunate cousin in New Orleans, LA USA had been kidnapped off the street and never heard >from again, a sad but not unusual occurance in a port city where foreign sailors took strong young men as virtual slaves to labor onboard ships. The descendant who found me had a story specific to that unfortunate young man, that he had gone out one evening to buy himself a cigar and never returned. I have noticed that many people who write the SIG do not bother to put a list of the family names they are researching at the bottom of their messages and would like to urge everyone to make it a practice for every e-mail they post on the site. The day you post for the umpteeneth time may be the first time exactly the descendant you have been hoping will contact you looks at the SIG. Dottie Miller San Antonio, TX USA PICKART >from Gerstheim; DREYFUS >from Brumath, Duppigheim and Gerstheim; GUGENHEIM >from Breisach and Ihringen, Baden, and New Orleans, LA USA; FRANCK >from Gerstheim; BAMBERGER >from Diebolsheim; LEVI >from Dambach, Duppigheim and Diebolsheim; WEYL >from Mutzig; BLOCH >from Weshoffen
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1784 Census
#france
Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
the 17th family of Dirmenach (Durmenach) is Meyer LEVY with wife Merla
there are 5 sons: Seeligmann, Hisschel, Schmais, Nathan and Leopold and 3 daughters: Riffga, Hindel and Klar. On my data base I have a Meyer LEVY with wife Merle HAUSER married 27 Aug 1753 in Luemschwiller (per Fraenckel) with 7 children Gittel, Klar, Seligman, Schmais, Rivka, Hindel and Nephtali. I believe that the match is prety good that these are the same family. Anyone have any comments. Pierre Hahn, San Francisco
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New Holocaust Database entries
#france
Joyce Field
JewishGen is pleased to announce five new entries in the Holocaust
Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ -Polish Martyred Physicians -North Bavarian Jews -Jewish Survivors listed in a Hungarian Periodical -Refugees >from France to Brazil -Braunschweig Cemetery for Forced Laborers The Dachau Concentration Camp Records have also been updated. Over 100,000 records are now online. The Holocaust Database is a collection of 62 databases, containing over 500,000 entries. All databases are searchable at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ by surname, town, or global text search. Our sincere thanks to all the volunteers who worked on these important lists. Joyce Field JewishGen VP, Research jfield@jewishgen.org
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French SIG #France 1784 Census
#france
Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
the 17th family of Dirmenach (Durmenach) is Meyer LEVY with wife Merla
there are 5 sons: Seeligmann, Hisschel, Schmais, Nathan and Leopold and 3 daughters: Riffga, Hindel and Klar. On my data base I have a Meyer LEVY with wife Merle HAUSER married 27 Aug 1753 in Luemschwiller (per Fraenckel) with 7 children Gittel, Klar, Seligman, Schmais, Rivka, Hindel and Nephtali. I believe that the match is prety good that these are the same family. Anyone have any comments. Pierre Hahn, San Francisco
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French SIG #France New Holocaust Database entries
#france
Joyce Field
JewishGen is pleased to announce five new entries in the Holocaust
Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ -Polish Martyred Physicians -North Bavarian Jews -Jewish Survivors listed in a Hungarian Periodical -Refugees >from France to Brazil -Braunschweig Cemetery for Forced Laborers The Dachau Concentration Camp Records have also been updated. Over 100,000 records are now online. The Holocaust Database is a collection of 62 databases, containing over 500,000 entries. All databases are searchable at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/ by surname, town, or global text search. Our sincere thanks to all the volunteers who worked on these important lists. Joyce Field JewishGen VP, Research jfield@jewishgen.org
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Translating Russian in on-line image of marriage record
#poland
Weiner, Joel A. <Joel.Weiner@...>
I have obtained a marriage record the >from the Bialstok Archives for
what may be the brother (Gutman Endewelt) of my great-grandfather. I would appreciate it if anyone could translate both the column headings and the handwritten record. The image is at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3207 Thanks in advance, Joel Weiner PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND BY POSTING TO THIS SIG, BUT INSTEAD DIRECTLY TO MY EMAIL AT JOEL.WEINER@JHUAPL.EDU.
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BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Translating Russian in on-line image of marriage record
#poland
Weiner, Joel A. <Joel.Weiner@...>
I have obtained a marriage record the >from the Bialstok Archives for
what may be the brother (Gutman Endewelt) of my great-grandfather. I would appreciate it if anyone could translate both the column headings and the handwritten record. The image is at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3207 Thanks in advance, Joel Weiner PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND BY POSTING TO THIS SIG, BUT INSTEAD DIRECTLY TO MY EMAIL AT JOEL.WEINER@JHUAPL.EDU.
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LERNER from Ukraine
#general
Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
I am looking for descendants or information about the following LERNER
brothers: Israel Abraham (Srul) LERNER, b. about 1839-1849, was Rabbi in Tereshpol and later Balin in Ukraine. Mordecai LERNER, was rabbi in Munkacs. Mendel (Menachem Mendel) LERNER, was rabbi in Kitaygorod. Had one son that we know about, Shevach. They also had a brother Samuel and at least two sisters, and their parents were Shevach and Devora. Thanks for any information. Anita Springer Boston
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Maidanek
#general
Israel P <isai8v10@...>
A reference to a transport >from Medzilaborce (Slovakia) which included an
aunt and uncle of my mother-in-law, includes the note "this transport was taken to Pulawy, in Poland." The family "knows" that they were killed in Maidanek. I don't know the geography here. Are these two pieces of information consistent or contradictory? Israel Pickholtz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LERNER from Ukraine
#general
Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
I am looking for descendants or information about the following LERNER
brothers: Israel Abraham (Srul) LERNER, b. about 1839-1849, was Rabbi in Tereshpol and later Balin in Ukraine. Mordecai LERNER, was rabbi in Munkacs. Mendel (Menachem Mendel) LERNER, was rabbi in Kitaygorod. Had one son that we know about, Shevach. They also had a brother Samuel and at least two sisters, and their parents were Shevach and Devora. Thanks for any information. Anita Springer Boston
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Maidanek
#general
Israel P <isai8v10@...>
A reference to a transport >from Medzilaborce (Slovakia) which included an
aunt and uncle of my mother-in-law, includes the note "this transport was taken to Pulawy, in Poland." The family "knows" that they were killed in Maidanek. I don't know the geography here. Are these two pieces of information consistent or contradictory? Israel Pickholtz
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Records in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine
#general
Rica Goldberg
Dear Genners
I have just learnt that a possible part of my great grandfather's family in Lithuania (Zeimiai and Janova) moved to the above in the Ukraine, around the middle of the 19th century. The surname is KAMENSHCHIK which I am led to believe is not a very common surname. There were two children that we are told were born in Dnepropetrovsk around that time and their names were Yuda and Aron. Can any of the experts throw any light on my next move or what I should do or could do to find out more? Rica B Goldberg Manchester England Still researching:- KAMINSKY (KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova (Jonava)and Zeimiai nr Kovno, Lithuania 2) Nosson Eliazar, Harris, Joseph & Sarah DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia, Lithuania 3) Newman, Emmanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY and their parents Chana & Yehuda LEWIN >from KROSNIEWICE in Poland 4) Isaac & Rebecca COHEN >from Poland 5) Chaim & Rebecca ESTRY (nee GROSSMAN) a glazier >from Poland 6) GOLDBERG (possibly SCHELSINGER OR SCHELINGER or SCHLUZITEL)
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LANE, STOLOFF, PODALSKY, GELLER, ZINN, SULTAN
#general
SingingTM@...
To my great surprise, I found that a previously unknown cousin had posted
a family tree on the Internet. I am looking for connections to any of the following, believed to have lived in the US initially in New York and New Jersey, and are related to my LANE family >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district. Bessie (Betty), Irene, Isadore or Israel, Yetta BARASCH Seymour BROWN Nat CHORDASH Harry, June, Michael EDELMAN Morris FISHMAN Al FROST Benjamin, Marilyn GELLER Harry HABER Louis, Mary, Nathan KAPLAN Amor, Anna, Benjamin, Esther, George, Gershon, Hilda, Isadore, Kenneth, Lily, Meyer, Miriam, Reba, Sylvia LANE Martin MEISEL PEARL Blanche (Birdie) PODALSKY RAVEN or RAVIN or RAVINITSKY or RAVNITSKY RITCHKOFF RODENBEEK STEIFEL Fannie, Hyman, Lillian, Louis, Michael D., Rachel, Rose, Solomon STOLOFF SULTAN YUDELOWITZ YUNI Victor ZINN Please respond privately. Jeff Miller Brookeville, MD SingingTM@aol.com Researching: LANE, LAN, YUDELOWITZ, FINKELSTEIN, BLANKFORD, WHITEMAN, WEINER, >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine
#general
Rica Goldberg
Dear Genners
I have just learnt that a possible part of my great grandfather's family in Lithuania (Zeimiai and Janova) moved to the above in the Ukraine, around the middle of the 19th century. The surname is KAMENSHCHIK which I am led to believe is not a very common surname. There were two children that we are told were born in Dnepropetrovsk around that time and their names were Yuda and Aron. Can any of the experts throw any light on my next move or what I should do or could do to find out more? Rica B Goldberg Manchester England Still researching:- KAMINSKY (KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova (Jonava)and Zeimiai nr Kovno, Lithuania 2) Nosson Eliazar, Harris, Joseph & Sarah DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia, Lithuania 3) Newman, Emmanuel, Rachel & Esther LEVY and their parents Chana & Yehuda LEWIN >from KROSNIEWICE in Poland 4) Isaac & Rebecca COHEN >from Poland 5) Chaim & Rebecca ESTRY (nee GROSSMAN) a glazier >from Poland 6) GOLDBERG (possibly SCHELSINGER OR SCHELINGER or SCHLUZITEL)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LANE, STOLOFF, PODALSKY, GELLER, ZINN, SULTAN
#general
SingingTM@...
To my great surprise, I found that a previously unknown cousin had posted
a family tree on the Internet. I am looking for connections to any of the following, believed to have lived in the US initially in New York and New Jersey, and are related to my LANE family >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district. Bessie (Betty), Irene, Isadore or Israel, Yetta BARASCH Seymour BROWN Nat CHORDASH Harry, June, Michael EDELMAN Morris FISHMAN Al FROST Benjamin, Marilyn GELLER Harry HABER Louis, Mary, Nathan KAPLAN Amor, Anna, Benjamin, Esther, George, Gershon, Hilda, Isadore, Kenneth, Lily, Meyer, Miriam, Reba, Sylvia LANE Martin MEISEL PEARL Blanche (Birdie) PODALSKY RAVEN or RAVIN or RAVINITSKY or RAVNITSKY RITCHKOFF RODENBEEK STEIFEL Fannie, Hyman, Lillian, Louis, Michael D., Rachel, Rose, Solomon STOLOFF SULTAN YUDELOWITZ YUNI Victor ZINN Please respond privately. Jeff Miller Brookeville, MD SingingTM@aol.com Researching: LANE, LAN, YUDELOWITZ, FINKELSTEIN, BLANKFORD, WHITEMAN, WEINER, >from Panevezys (Ponevezh) or other towns in the Panevezys district.
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