One of my four grandparents had the maiden name Goldenberg. She was born
in Galati in 1922. I've seen several people post about Goldenberg and
I'm curious whether it's a common name.

Thank you,
Lydia Sandon
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Researching (In Iasi and Galati):
Brau(c)feld, Brunstein, Daniel, Glick, Goldenberg, Smilovici, Stern

One of my four grandparents had the maiden name Goldenberg. She was born
in Galati in 1922. I've seen several people post about Goldenberg and
I'm curious whether it's a common name.

Thank you,
Lydia Sandon
MODERATOR NOTE: Please include your location in future messages!

Researching (In Iasi and Galati):
Brau(c)feld, Brunstein, Daniel, Glick, Goldenberg, Smilovici, Stern

At 12:00 AM 12/03/2003 -0600, Alice Kaderlan wrote:

Has anyone done research in Kishinev or hired a researcher there?
I will be going to Kishinev and NW Moldova next May and have heard

from Miriam Weiner among others that it is extremely difficult to do

research in Kishinev, where all the records for what was once Bessarabia
are kept. I am wondering if anyone besides Miriam has had personal
experience in an effort to determine whether it is even worth thinking
about visiting the archives while I am there.

The moderator requested private replies. Although recommendations
regarding particular researchers should be private, I think the answer to
the broader question would be of interest and value to every member of this
SIG. who may be thinking about a research trip. Please post the replies.



Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com
MODERATOR NOTE: Replies will be posted provided no personal names of researchers are included.

At 12:00 AM 12/03/2003 -0600, Alice Kaderlan wrote:

Has anyone done research in Kishinev or hired a researcher there?
I will be going to Kishinev and NW Moldova next May and have heard

from Miriam Weiner among others that it is extremely difficult to do

research in Kishinev, where all the records for what was once Bessarabia
are kept. I am wondering if anyone besides Miriam has had personal
experience in an effort to determine whether it is even worth thinking
about visiting the archives while I am there.

The moderator requested private replies. Although recommendations
regarding particular researchers should be private, I think the answer to
the broader question would be of interest and value to every member of this
SIG. who may be thinking about a research trip. Please post the replies.



Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com
MODERATOR NOTE: Replies will be posted provided no personal names of researchers are included.

Is there a web site that has street maps of cities in Romania? looking for
a street map for Iasi.


daiv [MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all messages with your full name]
Belmont, California

D. Towie Shapiro - Jassy, Romania
Moshe Shapiro - Jassy, Romania relocated to Austria in 1923
Helen Shapiro - lived in San Francisco, born in Jassy, Romania

Is there a web site that has street maps of cities in Romania? looking for
a street map for Iasi.


daiv [MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all messages with your full name]
Belmont, California

D. Towie Shapiro - Jassy, Romania
Moshe Shapiro - Jassy, Romania relocated to Austria in 1923
Helen Shapiro - lived in San Francisco, born in Jassy, Romania

HI all !

after a comprehensive search through all jewishgen tools ( including jgff ),
i decided to aprroach you all - maybe i will get more info.

my ggf aron was born 1872 .he was one of 11 brothers and sisters. his father
name was meer (meir ).
my gf joseph was born 1907 , in rezina , orgeyev oyzed , bessarabia.
they came to israel ih 1924, with joseph brother meir , and sister ada , who
was married
to a cousin named also meir RACHEVSKY.

the only info i have of the 11 brothers of my ggf is the names shmul and
zelman , which
i found at the duma votes list at the all romanian database.

i know that there must be relatives in the usa , and in south america.

if any of you has any info about this name , family , or about rezina -
please
share it with me.

thank you
tamar rachevsky - milner
Israel.

HI all !

after a comprehensive search through all jewishgen tools ( including jgff ),
i decided to aprroach you all - maybe i will get more info.

my ggf aron was born 1872 .he was one of 11 brothers and sisters. his father
name was meer (meir ).
my gf joseph was born 1907 , in rezina , orgeyev oyzed , bessarabia.
they came to israel ih 1924, with joseph brother meir , and sister ada , who
was married
to a cousin named also meir RACHEVSKY.

the only info i have of the 11 brothers of my ggf is the names shmul and
zelman , which
i found at the duma votes list at the all romanian database.

i know that there must be relatives in the usa , and in south america.

if any of you has any info about this name , family , or about rezina -
please
share it with me.

thank you
tamar rachevsky - milner
Israel.

Paula Zieselmann has suggested that the town of residence I asked about
earlier today is Mekrine, near Kaunas, thank you Paula!

In my earlier post, I neglected to mention that should a relative of the
passport holder, Benzal ALBERT or ALPERT come forward, we would turn it over
to family. Otherwise, it will be donated to YIVO.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI
webmaster, Lida District ShtetLink

Paula Zieselmann has suggested that the town of residence I asked about
earlier today is Mekrine, near Kaunas, thank you Paula!

In my earlier post, I neglected to mention that should a relative of the
passport holder, Benzal ALBERT or ALPERT come forward, we would turn it over
to family. Otherwise, it will be donated to YIVO.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI
webmaster, Lida District ShtetLink

Merecz/Meretch is located in the South-West corner of the Vilna
Province, 20 miles North of Novi Dvor, which itself is in the Grodno
province. A few miles South of Meretch, flows the Meretchenka river.

The name of the town varies according to the language (see
http://www.shamash.org/listarchives/jewishgen/940402)

Lithuanian Merkine
Russian Merech'
Polish Merecz
Yiddish Meretz

There is another city located 53 miles SE of Kovno (Kaunas) on the Nemen
River, named Meritz (Russian) and Merecz (Poland). I am not sure which
is which.

Though there are 8-9 entries in Shtetel Seeker, I could not find any as
a good candidate.

Good luck !

Daniel Ewenczyk
Paris, France

Searching for : EWENCZYK / EVENCHIK / REZEPTOR and variants (no matter
the town or province)

Merecz/Meretch is located in the South-West corner of the Vilna
Province, 20 miles North of Novi Dvor, which itself is in the Grodno
province. A few miles South of Meretch, flows the Meretchenka river.

The name of the town varies according to the language (see
http://www.shamash.org/listarchives/jewishgen/940402)

Lithuanian Merkine
Russian Merech'
Polish Merecz
Yiddish Meretz

There is another city located 53 miles SE of Kovno (Kaunas) on the Nemen
River, named Meritz (Russian) and Merecz (Poland). I am not sure which
is which.

Though there are 8-9 entries in Shtetel Seeker, I could not find any as
a good candidate.

Good luck !

Daniel Ewenczyk
Paris, France

Searching for : EWENCZYK / EVENCHIK / REZEPTOR and variants (no matter
the town or province)

All JFRA members and friends are invited to the next JFRA Tel Aviv meeting:

Hebrew language
Tuesday, December 9
7.30 pm
Beit Shalom, 2 Shir St., Tel Aviv

TOPIC: "Something >from the family"

A group discussion:
Bring something to share, a picture, document, or some other item that can
be the basis for an interesting discussion about your family's past.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JFRA Israel, president
dardasht@barak-online.net
schelly@allrelative.net

All JFRA members and friends are invited to the next JFRA Tel Aviv meeting:

Hebrew language
Tuesday, December 9
7.30 pm
Beit Shalom, 2 Shir St., Tel Aviv

TOPIC: "Something >from the family"

A group discussion:
Bring something to share, a picture, document, or some other item that can
be the basis for an interesting discussion about your family's past.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
JFRA Israel, president
dardasht@barak-online.net
schelly@allrelative.net

Dear GerSiggers, just to inform you, Greifswald is in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and
not in Schleswig-Holstein. Both areas are in the north of Germany, but the
difference to reach them by car would be driving about 3 to 4 hours. The archive
for Schleswig Holstein is in Schloss Gottorf, except the local archives for each
city.
Regards >from Helga HEILBUT, Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland

Dear GerSiggers, just to inform you, Greifswald is in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and
not in Schleswig-Holstein. Both areas are in the north of Germany, but the
difference to reach them by car would be driving about 3 to 4 hours. The archive
for Schleswig Holstein is in Schloss Gottorf, except the local archives for each
city.
Regards >from Helga HEILBUT, Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland

We had a similar experience. My daughter was married in Chicago six years ago,
but lived here in Israel. For one reason or another, they didn't make the 60 day
filing period in Cook County, but here no one cared. Their daughter was born here
a year later with no ramifications. Their son was born the next year while they
were in Amsterdam and when they tried to register him with the US Embassy, they
found that their marriage was not recognized. Moishie was therefore listed as
Pickholtz and only later when they were married again by a JP in Chicago, were
they able to get his American name straightened out.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting Ukraine SIG digest <ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org>:

We had a similar experience. My daughter was married in Chicago six years ago,
but lived here in Israel. For one reason or another, they didn't make the 60 day
filing period in Cook County, but here no one cared. Their daughter was born here
a year later with no ramifications. Their son was born the next year while they
were in Amsterdam and when they tried to register him with the US Embassy, they
found that their marriage was not recognized. Moishie was therefore listed as
Pickholtz and only later when they were married again by a JP in Chicago, were
they able to get his American name straightened out.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting Ukraine SIG digest <ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org>:

In a message dated 12/2/03 Jimena Romero (jromero@ar.inter.net) wrote in
part:

<< I now know that my g-granparent came >from a Uyezd

called Akkerman (or Akerman, Belgorod Dnestrovski, Belgorod

Dnestrovskii, Belgorod Dnestrovskiy, Cetatea Alba, Ir Lavan). This city

is now called Bilhorod-Dnistrovs=B4kyy in Ukraine near the Black Sea...

Now that I located the city I wish I could find some information about

it and how to fing some data there. Can anyone give me a hand on how to?

Apparently there is little information about this city in most databases. >>

My 1968 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer says of Mr. Romero's ancestral city
that it is located in Bessarabia, on the Dniester shore, 25 miles southwest of Odessa. A commercial center, it is known for fish canning, salt working, and agricultural processing of various fruits, vegetables, vinegar and wine. It was founded in the 7th century BC as a Milesian colony of Tyrus. In the 4th century BC it was taken by the Macedonians, in 50 AD by the Romans. During the 13th century (AD) it was abandoned during the barbarian invasions and then resettled by Tatars. Armenians and Greeks developed it as a trading center. In the 14th century it became a Genoese colony, and in the 15th it was ruled by Moldavia
princes. In 1484 it passed to Turkey who named it Akkerman, and in 1842 it
passed into Russian hands. >from 1918-40 it was part of Rumania, and in 1944, after the Russians captured it, was named Belgorod Dniestrovskiy.

On the basis of the above little account, I would speculate that the Jews who settled in the town were largely Sephardim and Mizrachim. But I stress that I am only guessing.

In Neal Ascherson's book "Black Sea" he writes that a good part of the old
colony of Tyras which was located beneath the famous Turkish fortress, is partly submerged under the waters of the Dniester.

It is always a good idea not to limit oneself to Jewishgen database
searches, helpful as they often are; one should always use the Internet as well. With my AOL Internet browser, I did a quick "google" Internet search for Belgorod Dnestrovskiy. The first website had with some information which,unfortunately appeared on my iMac, as rows of question marks rather than cyrillic letters.
But elsewhere on the "web" I learned that this "provincial" town, a still
functioning seaport on the Black Sea, in the Budzak or Budjak area, has not only many purportedly pretty women >from the town looking for husbands, but also that it has a Western Union affiliation and ATM machines, and that its former name was "Apocastro" (In Greek "Apocastro" means in Greek ). I also learned that the town is now served by liquid petroleum gas, rather than by the natural gas supply available throughout most of the Odessa region. One website cheerfully lists Belgorod Dnestrovskiy as one of several tourist "hot spots." The town
was also known as "Weissenburg," which is the German translation of the
Turkish name "Cetatea-Alba" and of the Russian "Belgorod," meaning "white city"

A picture and interesting description of B-D's famous 13th century medieval fortress can be seen at:

http://old-fort.by.ru/english.html map showing its location on the Black Sea can be downloaded from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22Belgorod+Dnestrovskiy%22&;hl=3Den&lr=3D&i=
e=3DUTF-8&
start=3D150&sa=3DN

At: http://www.guysen.com/articles.php?sid=3D1157

which is a French site, I learned that Jews lived in Belgorod Dnestrovskiy

from the 16th century and that in 1941 the Soviets deported to Siberia several hundred Jews >from the town. But at another section of the same site, it is said that the town's Jews were murdered by Germans and Romanians, and that 4,000 fled to Odessa. (However, I suspect that after they reached Odessa they were probably murdered by the Romanians (with the blessing of he German occupiers)along with Odessa's Jewish residents-if those residents had not already been slain when the new victims to be arrived.)

To understand Moldova's history Mr. Romero may want to visit:

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/mold/Moldova.hist.html

which is one of the websites suggested by Nathan Sturman (a friendly person with whom I've sometimes corresponded) at the Belgorod Dnestrovsky listing at Jewishgen's International Cemetery Project. Mr.Sturman's email address is shown at the Project's site, and perhaps he can tell Mr.Romero more about the town.

The Holocaust Memorial Center in Michigan lists the city as one of those
cities, towns or villages, which are covered or at least mentioned by Yizkor (memorial books.) But I do not know which book contains the information or reference.

A wood cut showing the fortress as it appeared in 1790 is available from
Boris Feldblyum (with whom I have no financial arrangement).

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna

In a message dated 12/2/03 Jimena Romero (jromero@ar.inter.net) wrote in
part:

<< I now know that my g-granparent came >from a Uyezd

called Akkerman (or Akerman, Belgorod Dnestrovski, Belgorod

Dnestrovskii, Belgorod Dnestrovskiy, Cetatea Alba, Ir Lavan). This city

is now called Bilhorod-Dnistrovs=B4kyy in Ukraine near the Black Sea...

Now that I located the city I wish I could find some information about

it and how to fing some data there. Can anyone give me a hand on how to?

Apparently there is little information about this city in most databases. >>

My 1968 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer says of Mr. Romero's ancestral city
that it is located in Bessarabia, on the Dniester shore, 25 miles southwest of Odessa. A commercial center, it is known for fish canning, salt working, and agricultural processing of various fruits, vegetables, vinegar and wine. It was founded in the 7th century BC as a Milesian colony of Tyrus. In the 4th century BC it was taken by the Macedonians, in 50 AD by the Romans. During the 13th century (AD) it was abandoned during the barbarian invasions and then resettled by Tatars. Armenians and Greeks developed it as a trading center. In the 14th century it became a Genoese colony, and in the 15th it was ruled by Moldavia
princes. In 1484 it passed to Turkey who named it Akkerman, and in 1842 it
passed into Russian hands. >from 1918-40 it was part of Rumania, and in 1944, after the Russians captured it, was named Belgorod Dniestrovskiy.

On the basis of the above little account, I would speculate that the Jews who settled in the town were largely Sephardim and Mizrachim. But I stress that I am only guessing.

In Neal Ascherson's book "Black Sea" he writes that a good part of the old
colony of Tyras which was located beneath the famous Turkish fortress, is partly submerged under the waters of the Dniester.

It is always a good idea not to limit oneself to Jewishgen database
searches, helpful as they often are; one should always use the Internet as well. With my AOL Internet browser, I did a quick "google" Internet search for Belgorod Dnestrovskiy. The first website had with some information which,unfortunately appeared on my iMac, as rows of question marks rather than cyrillic letters.
But elsewhere on the "web" I learned that this "provincial" town, a still
functioning seaport on the Black Sea, in the Budzak or Budjak area, has not only many purportedly pretty women >from the town looking for husbands, but also that it has a Western Union affiliation and ATM machines, and that its former name was "Apocastro" (In Greek "Apocastro" means in Greek ). I also learned that the town is now served by liquid petroleum gas, rather than by the natural gas supply available throughout most of the Odessa region. One website cheerfully lists Belgorod Dnestrovskiy as one of several tourist "hot spots." The town
was also known as "Weissenburg," which is the German translation of the
Turkish name "Cetatea-Alba" and of the Russian "Belgorod," meaning "white city"

A picture and interesting description of B-D's famous 13th century medieval fortress can be seen at:

http://old-fort.by.ru/english.html map showing its location on the Black Sea can be downloaded from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22Belgorod+Dnestrovskiy%22&;hl=3Den&lr=3D&i=
e=3DUTF-8&
start=3D150&sa=3DN

At: http://www.guysen.com/articles.php?sid=3D1157

which is a French site, I learned that Jews lived in Belgorod Dnestrovskiy

from the 16th century and that in 1941 the Soviets deported to Siberia several hundred Jews >from the town. But at another section of the same site, it is said that the town's Jews were murdered by Germans and Romanians, and that 4,000 fled to Odessa. (However, I suspect that after they reached Odessa they were probably murdered by the Romanians (with the blessing of he German occupiers)along with Odessa's Jewish residents-if those residents had not already been slain when the new victims to be arrived.)

To understand Moldova's history Mr. Romero may want to visit:

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/mold/Moldova.hist.html

which is one of the websites suggested by Nathan Sturman (a friendly person with whom I've sometimes corresponded) at the Belgorod Dnestrovsky listing at Jewishgen's International Cemetery Project. Mr.Sturman's email address is shown at the Project's site, and perhaps he can tell Mr.Romero more about the town.

The Holocaust Memorial Center in Michigan lists the city as one of those
cities, towns or villages, which are covered or at least mentioned by Yizkor (memorial books.) But I do not know which book contains the information or reference.

A wood cut showing the fortress as it appeared in 1790 is available from
Boris Feldblyum (with whom I have no financial arrangement).

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna