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JGSLA December 14. 2003 Meeting- New York , New York Reserach and Resources #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) will be meeting on
Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 1:30 p.m.
The program is: New York, New York: Research and Resources. Five
experienced JGSLA members: Barbara Algaze, Ron Arons, Sonia Nayle, Pamela
Weisberger and Gerry Winerman will share their research and resource
experiences and ideas to help with New York City genealogical research.
Most of us have roots in New York City and will find these presentations
useful.

The panel will provide guidance for researching cemeteries, libraries, the
Center for Jewish History (on-site and on-line research), the New York
City Municipal Archives (vital records, old maps and photographs),
National Archives, newspapers and prisons. Additionally, finding and
using NYC resources at the Los Angeles Family History Center (including
census, city directories, birth, marriage and death records) will be
discussed.

Thirty-minutes prior to the start of the meeting, JGSLA's traveling
Spizman library will be available for use by attendees.

Directions to the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus are:

from Conejo Valley: take the US 101 South. Exit at Fallbrook Avenue off
ramp. Continue Left on Avenue San Luis to Fallbrook. Left on Fallbrook
Avenue to Vanowen (approximately 2 miles). Right on Vanowen - 2 blocks to
22622 Vanowen Street, West Hills (bldg. on right side of street).

from Eastern San Fernando Valley and San Gabriel Valley: Los Angeles:
take the US 101 - North. Exit at Shoup Avenue. Continue Right on Ventura
Blvd to Shoup Avenue and Right on Shoup Avenue to Vanowen (approximately
1.5 miles). Turn Left on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 226622 Vanowen Street,
West Hills (bldg. on left side of street). Parking structure is on right
as you enter driveway.

from Los Angeles and points south: Take the 405 north to the 101
north/west and follow the directions above under the Eastern San Fernando
Valley and San Gabriel Valley.

from Simi Valley: take the 23 South to the 101 and go East following
directions >from the Conejo Valley above; or take the 118 East to Topanga
Canyon Blvd. Exit and go South to Vanowen. Turn West (right) on Vanowen to
22622 Vanowen.

Parking is free.

For more information on the JGSLA please visit our website: www.JGSLA.org

For information on the meeting please contact me.

Jan Meisels Allen
Vice President, Programs, JGSLA
jan@JGSLA.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSLA December 14. 2003 Meeting- New York , New York Reserach and Resources #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) will be meeting on
Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 1:30 p.m.
The program is: New York, New York: Research and Resources. Five
experienced JGSLA members: Barbara Algaze, Ron Arons, Sonia Nayle, Pamela
Weisberger and Gerry Winerman will share their research and resource
experiences and ideas to help with New York City genealogical research.
Most of us have roots in New York City and will find these presentations
useful.

The panel will provide guidance for researching cemeteries, libraries, the
Center for Jewish History (on-site and on-line research), the New York
City Municipal Archives (vital records, old maps and photographs),
National Archives, newspapers and prisons. Additionally, finding and
using NYC resources at the Los Angeles Family History Center (including
census, city directories, birth, marriage and death records) will be
discussed.

Thirty-minutes prior to the start of the meeting, JGSLA's traveling
Spizman library will be available for use by attendees.

Directions to the Bernard Milken Jewish Community Campus are:

from Conejo Valley: take the US 101 South. Exit at Fallbrook Avenue off
ramp. Continue Left on Avenue San Luis to Fallbrook. Left on Fallbrook
Avenue to Vanowen (approximately 2 miles). Right on Vanowen - 2 blocks to
22622 Vanowen Street, West Hills (bldg. on right side of street).

from Eastern San Fernando Valley and San Gabriel Valley: Los Angeles:
take the US 101 - North. Exit at Shoup Avenue. Continue Right on Ventura
Blvd to Shoup Avenue and Right on Shoup Avenue to Vanowen (approximately
1.5 miles). Turn Left on Vanowen - 2 blocks to 226622 Vanowen Street,
West Hills (bldg. on left side of street). Parking structure is on right
as you enter driveway.

from Los Angeles and points south: Take the 405 north to the 101
north/west and follow the directions above under the Eastern San Fernando
Valley and San Gabriel Valley.

from Simi Valley: take the 23 South to the 101 and go East following
directions >from the Conejo Valley above; or take the 118 East to Topanga
Canyon Blvd. Exit and go South to Vanowen. Turn West (right) on Vanowen to
22622 Vanowen.

Parking is free.

For more information on the JGSLA please visit our website: www.JGSLA.org

For information on the meeting please contact me.

Jan Meisels Allen
Vice President, Programs, JGSLA
jan@JGSLA.org


Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Try the University of PENNSYLVANIA- Dpt of Hebrew Studies (The Department's
title
may have been changed recently, but then ask operator or Office of Registrar
to list
for you the different departments dealing with Hebrew, Hebraic..etc...
You may also be able to pull up the HOmepage for the University of
Pennsylvania, also
browse through their School of Graduate Studies. (A few yrs ago one of
the professors responded with a very knowledgeable information ..I did not keep
the info, but
but keep searching... you should be able to get some help.
Have you thought of contacting the Jewish Institutions, Synagogue, in
McKeesport?
They may have archives, or know where these are , which you can access.
Try writing to the administration of the Cemetery or nearby cemeteries
that may be
have information for you. There must be records.
The Dpartment for Records (Births, marriages, Deaths) for Pennsylkavania
(get their address/phone number >from the phone directory---) Also, the
Dapartment of Immigration and Naturalization may be able to locate their documents of
Petition for
Naturalization, and the actual naturalization records which should yield
biographical
informaltion of your grandparents..their siblings,parents, place of origin,
and their children..any the address where they resided... you may then even
locate their neighborhood with its schools and house of worship...(if developers
have not rearranged
the real estate in the recent past).
Good Luck!! Let me know if any of the above were successful. Indeed,
it is like
looking for a needle in the haystack, but that is what also makes genealogy
searches so
fascinating. There is a lot I've learned along the way about history and the
times and types of lives our ancestors were confronted with... it completes a
whole picture.
Kitty Sauber


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Try the University of PENNSYLVANIA- Dpt of Hebrew Studies (The Department's
title
may have been changed recently, but then ask operator or Office of Registrar
to list
for you the different departments dealing with Hebrew, Hebraic..etc...
You may also be able to pull up the HOmepage for the University of
Pennsylvania, also
browse through their School of Graduate Studies. (A few yrs ago one of
the professors responded with a very knowledgeable information ..I did not keep
the info, but
but keep searching... you should be able to get some help.
Have you thought of contacting the Jewish Institutions, Synagogue, in
McKeesport?
They may have archives, or know where these are , which you can access.
Try writing to the administration of the Cemetery or nearby cemeteries
that may be
have information for you. There must be records.
The Dpartment for Records (Births, marriages, Deaths) for Pennsylkavania
(get their address/phone number >from the phone directory---) Also, the
Dapartment of Immigration and Naturalization may be able to locate their documents of
Petition for
Naturalization, and the actual naturalization records which should yield
biographical
informaltion of your grandparents..their siblings,parents, place of origin,
and their children..any the address where they resided... you may then even
locate their neighborhood with its schools and house of worship...(if developers
have not rearranged
the real estate in the recent past).
Good Luck!! Let me know if any of the above were successful. Indeed,
it is like
looking for a needle in the haystack, but that is what also makes genealogy
searches so
fascinating. There is a lot I've learned along the way about history and the
times and types of lives our ancestors were confronted with... it completes a
whole picture.
Kitty Sauber


Re: Names -- Ronzha #hungary

Henry <henry@...>
 

Hi Prof. G. L. Esterson,

The name was pronounced Rontzha, maybe that might help you. She lived in
Austria-Hungary in the mid 1800's, its currently in Ukraine.
Thank You

Henry Schwartz

-----Original Message-----
From: Prof. G. L. Esterson [mailto:jerry@vms.huji.ac.il]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:33 AM
To: H-SIG
Cc: Henry Schwartz
Subject: [h-sig] Re: Names -- Ronzha


Henry Schwartz posted as follows:

"Has anyone ever come across the name Ronzha. I would like to know if the
name is a nickname or a real name. I do know that its not Ruchel since she
had a sister named Ruchel."

I have not seen the name Ronzha before, and it is not to be found in any of
the Given Names Data Bases at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ but (if correctly
transcribed) it could be related to one of the following name groups, in
decreasing order of probability:

Veronica (a German secular name, widely used by Jews in Eastern Europe)
Ronye/Rone/Rane
Rachel/Rona
Rina

The Yiddish name Rone was shared between several name groupings. The name
Ronzha seems a likely candidate to having been a Yiddish nickname for one
of these Yiddish/Hebrew names. This will limit to some extent your
research challenge.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Names -- Ronzha #hungary

Henry <henry@...>
 

Hi Prof. G. L. Esterson,

The name was pronounced Rontzha, maybe that might help you. She lived in
Austria-Hungary in the mid 1800's, its currently in Ukraine.
Thank You

Henry Schwartz

-----Original Message-----
From: Prof. G. L. Esterson [mailto:jerry@vms.huji.ac.il]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:33 AM
To: H-SIG
Cc: Henry Schwartz
Subject: [h-sig] Re: Names -- Ronzha


Henry Schwartz posted as follows:

"Has anyone ever come across the name Ronzha. I would like to know if the
name is a nickname or a real name. I do know that its not Ruchel since she
had a sister named Ruchel."

I have not seen the name Ronzha before, and it is not to be found in any of
the Given Names Data Bases at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ but (if correctly
transcribed) it could be related to one of the following name groups, in
decreasing order of probability:

Veronica (a German secular name, widely used by Jews in Eastern Europe)
Ronye/Rone/Rane
Rachel/Rona
Rina

The Yiddish name Rone was shared between several name groupings. The name
Ronzha seems a likely candidate to having been a Yiddish nickname for one
of these Yiddish/Hebrew names. This will limit to some extent your
research challenge.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community #hungary

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear Jerry,
You can write to Rabbi Chinn, Gemilas Chesed Synagogue, White Oak, Pa. I do
not have the ZIP Code but you can find it in Google.
Shabbat Shalom
ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara & Steve Wasser [mailto:swass@global2000.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 4:35 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community


My maternal great grandparents, Wolf and Elizabeth ROSENFELD lived in
McKeesport >from the 1890's until their death and are buried in the
Gemilis Chesed Cemetery in Versailles, PA. I am reasonably sure that
this was the cemetery >from the Orthodox Schul. I have not been able
to identify exactly where they were born but my grandmother said
Budapest!!. All were fluent in Hungarian.

A paternal uncle, Alex HARTSTEIN married Mollie LICHTENSTEIN whose
parents are buried in the Elrod Cemetery also in Versailles.

Both of these families were orthodox, Hungarian and >from McKeesport,
PA. These cemeteries may be one and the same. I visited the
Gemillis Chesed about 6 years ago and at the time only looked for and
photographed ROSENFELD family member plots.

This is a grey area for me so if you have further insight that would
be appreciated.



At 12:00 AM -0500 11/6/03, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community
From: "Jerry Zeisler" <jzeisler@email.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:40 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5

I've recently found that my ggf, Rabbi Joseph Zeisler, was the first
spiritual leader of Temple B'nai Israel in McKeesport, Pennsylvania, USA =
in
1912. It is my understanding that McKeesport once had a very large =
Hungarian
Jewish community. I was wondering if anyone could provide any =
information
regarding the congregation that began in 1912? I've been in contact with =
the
AJA in Cincinnati and the Temple's web site, but I was hoping that there
might be someone here who would have additional information.

Thank you!

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA
Searching in Hungary:
ZEISLER, WEINER, UNGAR, FISCHER, GROEDEL, LONYAY, LOWY, ECSEDI, ERNST
Towns: Diosgyor, Eger, Sajo-Kazinc, Szolnok, Arad, Gyongyos, Szentes, =
Vacs,
Budapest, Maramaros-sighet

Moderator VK: Robert Perlman, author of Bridging Three Worlds:
Hungarian-Jewish Americans 1848:1914, Has also written a book on
Hungarian Jews in Pennsylvania milltowns called >from Shtetl to
Milltown: Jewish Immigrants in Western Pennsylvania, 1875:1925. I
believe that McKeesport is among the Penn communities covered in
this work.
Barbara Wasser
swass@global2000.net
Niskayuna, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community #hungary

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear Jerry,
You can write to Rabbi Chinn, Gemilas Chesed Synagogue, White Oak, Pa. I do
not have the ZIP Code but you can find it in Google.
Shabbat Shalom
ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara & Steve Wasser [mailto:swass@global2000.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 4:35 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Re: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community


My maternal great grandparents, Wolf and Elizabeth ROSENFELD lived in
McKeesport >from the 1890's until their death and are buried in the
Gemilis Chesed Cemetery in Versailles, PA. I am reasonably sure that
this was the cemetery >from the Orthodox Schul. I have not been able
to identify exactly where they were born but my grandmother said
Budapest!!. All were fluent in Hungarian.

A paternal uncle, Alex HARTSTEIN married Mollie LICHTENSTEIN whose
parents are buried in the Elrod Cemetery also in Versailles.

Both of these families were orthodox, Hungarian and >from McKeesport,
PA. These cemeteries may be one and the same. I visited the
Gemillis Chesed about 6 years ago and at the time only looked for and
photographed ROSENFELD family member plots.

This is a grey area for me so if you have further insight that would
be appreciated.



At 12:00 AM -0500 11/6/03, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: McKeesport, Pennsylvania Hungarian Jewish Community
From: "Jerry Zeisler" <jzeisler@email.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:40 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5

I've recently found that my ggf, Rabbi Joseph Zeisler, was the first
spiritual leader of Temple B'nai Israel in McKeesport, Pennsylvania, USA =
in
1912. It is my understanding that McKeesport once had a very large =
Hungarian
Jewish community. I was wondering if anyone could provide any =
information
regarding the congregation that began in 1912? I've been in contact with =
the
AJA in Cincinnati and the Temple's web site, but I was hoping that there
might be someone here who would have additional information.

Thank you!

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA
Searching in Hungary:
ZEISLER, WEINER, UNGAR, FISCHER, GROEDEL, LONYAY, LOWY, ECSEDI, ERNST
Towns: Diosgyor, Eger, Sajo-Kazinc, Szolnok, Arad, Gyongyos, Szentes, =
Vacs,
Budapest, Maramaros-sighet

Moderator VK: Robert Perlman, author of Bridging Three Worlds:
Hungarian-Jewish Americans 1848:1914, Has also written a book on
Hungarian Jews in Pennsylvania milltowns called >from Shtetl to
Milltown: Jewish Immigrants in Western Pennsylvania, 1875:1925. I
believe that McKeesport is among the Penn communities covered in
this work.
Barbara Wasser
swass@global2000.net
Niskayuna, NY


Nossel, Kaplan, Guinsberg from Lithuania #southafrica

N.Rosenberg <rose4@...>
 

Hello all,

Looking for any South African Nossel descendants
originating >from Plunge (Plumjan), or Zemaiciu Naumiestis
Raseiniai Kaunas, Lithuania, with a familial connection to
the Kaplan family.

1 Benjamin Nosel
..+?Dvora? .....?
......... 2 Shachne (Shakhna) Nossel b: 1820 in Zemaiciu
Naumiestis Raseiniai Kaunas, Lithuania
d: in ?JHB S.Africa
.............+Tsivia .....? b: 1822 in Zemaiciu Naumiestis, Lithuania
d:?
.................... 3 Zusman Nosal (Nathan) Nossel b: 1841 in
Zemaiciu Naumiestis, Lithuania d: ?
.................... 3 Pesha (Pessa Dvora) Nossel b: 1857 in
Zemaiciu Naumiestis,
Lithuania d: 29 April 1935 in JHB, S.Africa
.........................+Solomon Kaplan b: Plunge Lithuania,
d: Abt. 1932 in JHB, S.Africa
.................... 3 Iosel Nossel b: ?+/- 1860 in Zemaiciu
Naumiestis, Lithuania d: ?
......... 2 Iokhel Nossel b: 1822 d: ?
+ ?
.................... 3 Dvora Nossel b: 1854


Some S. A. Nossel-Kaplan descendant families:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ackerman, Balkin, Benatar, Brookstone, Fingleson,
Fischer, Gordon, Guinsberg, Kaplan, Kemach, Lentzner,
Lurie, Meyers, Molko, Moss, Myers, Nathan, Rudansky,
Singer, Sloshberg, Sneag, Sopher, Yankelson

Please contact me...

Thanks,
N. Rosenberg
Israel
rose4@attglobal.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Nossel, Kaplan, Guinsberg from Lithuania #southafrica

N.Rosenberg <rose4@...>
 

Hello all,

Looking for any South African Nossel descendants
originating >from Plunge (Plumjan), or Zemaiciu Naumiestis
Raseiniai Kaunas, Lithuania, with a familial connection to
the Kaplan family.

1 Benjamin Nosel
..+?Dvora? .....?
......... 2 Shachne (Shakhna) Nossel b: 1820 in Zemaiciu
Naumiestis Raseiniai Kaunas, Lithuania
d: in ?JHB S.Africa
.............+Tsivia .....? b: 1822 in Zemaiciu Naumiestis, Lithuania
d:?
.................... 3 Zusman Nosal (Nathan) Nossel b: 1841 in
Zemaiciu Naumiestis, Lithuania d: ?
.................... 3 Pesha (Pessa Dvora) Nossel b: 1857 in
Zemaiciu Naumiestis,
Lithuania d: 29 April 1935 in JHB, S.Africa
.........................+Solomon Kaplan b: Plunge Lithuania,
d: Abt. 1932 in JHB, S.Africa
.................... 3 Iosel Nossel b: ?+/- 1860 in Zemaiciu
Naumiestis, Lithuania d: ?
......... 2 Iokhel Nossel b: 1822 d: ?
+ ?
.................... 3 Dvora Nossel b: 1854


Some S. A. Nossel-Kaplan descendant families:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ackerman, Balkin, Benatar, Brookstone, Fingleson,
Fischer, Gordon, Guinsberg, Kaplan, Kemach, Lentzner,
Lurie, Meyers, Molko, Moss, Myers, Nathan, Rudansky,
Singer, Sloshberg, Sneag, Sopher, Yankelson

Please contact me...

Thanks,
N. Rosenberg
Israel
rose4@attglobal.net


Re: Names -- Ronzha #hungary

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Henry Schwartz posted as follows:

"Has anyone ever come across the name Ronzha. I would like to know if the
name is a nickname or a real name. I do know that its not Ruchel since she
had a sister named Ruchel."

I have not seen the name Ronzha before, and it is not to be found in any of
the Given Names Data Bases at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ but (if correctly
transcribed) it could be related to one of the following name groups, in
decreasing order of probability:

Veronica (a German secular name, widely used by Jews in Eastern Europe)
Ronye/Rone/Rane
Rachel/Rona
Rina

The Yiddish name Rone was shared between several name groupings. The name
Ronzha seems a likely candidate to having been a Yiddish nickname for one
of these Yiddish/Hebrew names. This will limit to some extent your
research challenge.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Names -- Ronzha #hungary

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Henry Schwartz posted as follows:

"Has anyone ever come across the name Ronzha. I would like to know if the
name is a nickname or a real name. I do know that its not Ruchel since she
had a sister named Ruchel."

I have not seen the name Ronzha before, and it is not to be found in any of
the Given Names Data Bases at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ but (if correctly
transcribed) it could be related to one of the following name groups, in
decreasing order of probability:

Veronica (a German secular name, widely used by Jews in Eastern Europe)
Ronye/Rone/Rane
Rachel/Rona
Rina

The Yiddish name Rone was shared between several name groupings. The name
Ronzha seems a likely candidate to having been a Yiddish nickname for one
of these Yiddish/Hebrew names. This will limit to some extent your
research challenge.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Forced labor: weapon factory in Budakalasz #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

Related to my previous post (View Mate: Forced Labor camp in Turia Remete),
my uncle is also looking for survivors of the forced labor camp in
Budakalasz.

Budakalasz was a weapon factory near Budapest. HARBINGER was the officer in
charge between 1943-45. According to my uncle, this unit had only
professional people and skilled workers, working on removing rust on tools
used by the Hungarian and German army.

We are searching for survivors or anyone that might have had relatives
working in this factory, or that can provide information about this camp.

Also, can someone inform me what kind of document(s) a person might have
had at that time?

Thank you,
Margarita

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
GENEALOGY: © mishpologia@uzidog.com
uzidog2000@yahoo.com


Re: A Little Help #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

ifj. in front of a name in Hungarian means the younger one, Jr. in English


Re: Hungary versus Austria?? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

i think this is an interesting question, and i hope others in the group will add their thoughts/views.

between 1910 and 1920 there was world war 1, and some borders shifted, although i don't think a lot of territory changed hands >from hungary to austria, although i could be wrong. as far as i know, most of the border changes occurred around the perimeters, such as slovakia or transylvania,which were transferred to neighbouring countries like czechoslovakia or romania.

i think a more interesting possibility is that a social change took place, in as much as the immigrants may have felt that "austria" was more prestigious than "hungary" as a place of origin. a more mundane explanation might be that different census takers recorded "austro-hungary" in terms that they understood (americans not being noted for their knowledge of world geography).

in any event, "austro-hungary" once extended over a large area >from galicia in the north to the balkans in the south.


....... tom klein, toronto

"goldhammer" <goldhammer@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have a question concerning place of birth on different census
years. In 1910 they listed Hungary, in 1920 Austria. Is this because
of shifting country lines?? If so, what region should I be
concentrating on locating information regarding this family?


View Mate: Forced Labor camp in Turia Remete #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

As a survivor, my uncle submitted a claim to one of the insurance
companies. Now they are asking for proof.

The only proof he seems to have is a photo which I have posted on View
Mate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html (click "Enter Viewing
Section" and search for file VM3163)
or use the direct link
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3163

You will see a group of men >from the Hungarian Forced Labor camp
(munkaszolgalat) in Turia Remete (Karpatorus, Ukraine), 1942-1943. I would
like to get in touch with survivors or descendants, or anyone that can
provide information about this camp.

Please reply privately at < mishpologia@uzidog.com >

Thanks in advance,
Margarita

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
GENEALOGY: © mishpologia@uzidog.com
uzidog2000@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Forced labor: weapon factory in Budakalasz #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

Related to my previous post (View Mate: Forced Labor camp in Turia Remete),
my uncle is also looking for survivors of the forced labor camp in
Budakalasz.

Budakalasz was a weapon factory near Budapest. HARBINGER was the officer in
charge between 1943-45. According to my uncle, this unit had only
professional people and skilled workers, working on removing rust on tools
used by the Hungarian and German army.

We are searching for survivors or anyone that might have had relatives
working in this factory, or that can provide information about this camp.

Also, can someone inform me what kind of document(s) a person might have
had at that time?

Thank you,
Margarita

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
GENEALOGY: © mishpologia@uzidog.com
uzidog2000@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: A Little Help #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

ifj. in front of a name in Hungarian means the younger one, Jr. in English


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungary versus Austria?? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

i think this is an interesting question, and i hope others in the group will add their thoughts/views.

between 1910 and 1920 there was world war 1, and some borders shifted, although i don't think a lot of territory changed hands >from hungary to austria, although i could be wrong. as far as i know, most of the border changes occurred around the perimeters, such as slovakia or transylvania,which were transferred to neighbouring countries like czechoslovakia or romania.

i think a more interesting possibility is that a social change took place, in as much as the immigrants may have felt that "austria" was more prestigious than "hungary" as a place of origin. a more mundane explanation might be that different census takers recorded "austro-hungary" in terms that they understood (americans not being noted for their knowledge of world geography).

in any event, "austro-hungary" once extended over a large area >from galicia in the north to the balkans in the south.


....... tom klein, toronto

"goldhammer" <goldhammer@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have a question concerning place of birth on different census
years. In 1910 they listed Hungary, in 1920 Austria. Is this because
of shifting country lines?? If so, what region should I be
concentrating on locating information regarding this family?


Hungary SIG #Hungary View Mate: Forced Labor camp in Turia Remete #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

As a survivor, my uncle submitted a claim to one of the insurance
companies. Now they are asking for proof.

The only proof he seems to have is a photo which I have posted on View
Mate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html (click "Enter Viewing
Section" and search for file VM3163)
or use the direct link
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3163

You will see a group of men >from the Hungarian Forced Labor camp
(munkaszolgalat) in Turia Remete (Karpatorus, Ukraine), 1942-1943. I would
like to get in touch with survivors or descendants, or anyone that can
provide information about this camp.

Please reply privately at < mishpologia@uzidog.com >

Thanks in advance,
Margarita

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
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