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Re: Russia - Which One Are you Referring to? #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Your posting should probably refer
to "Belarus, formerly Russia" or "Belarus, once Russia", or other
clarifying statement. Since you take the time to refer to a
specific shtel at some longitude/latitude, why not be more
specific in your general reference to some place in today's
former Russia.

Because sometimes the person writing does not know that a former part of
Russia is now in another country. Family lore, which is where many people
start, and even useful documents such as passenger lists and naturalization
files, often places origins only in "Russia" or "Austria"

As to writing "Belarus, formerly Russia," personally I find that annoyingly
redundant, especially if used in a subject line. *All* of Belarus was
formerly in Russia, and it is much easier for the beginner, and intermediate
genealogist, to know that than to recognize when a specific village once in
Russia is now in Belarus.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russia - Which One Are you Referring to? #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Your posting should probably refer
to "Belarus, formerly Russia" or "Belarus, once Russia", or other
clarifying statement. Since you take the time to refer to a
specific shtel at some longitude/latitude, why not be more
specific in your general reference to some place in today's
former Russia.

Because sometimes the person writing does not know that a former part of
Russia is now in another country. Family lore, which is where many people
start, and even useful documents such as passenger lists and naturalization
files, often places origins only in "Russia" or "Austria"

As to writing "Belarus, formerly Russia," personally I find that annoyingly
redundant, especially if used in a subject line. *All* of Belarus was
formerly in Russia, and it is much easier for the beginner, and intermediate
genealogist, to know that than to recognize when a specific village once in
Russia is now in Belarus.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


Re: Some Warsaw Archive holdings #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Mark is absolutely correct.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has been indexing this
collection for over two years. Due to Polish privacy laws,
JRI-Poland cannot index records that are 100 years old or less. A
more updated inventory of the Zabuzanskie collection (excluding
records 100 years old or less) can be found at the JRI-Poland
AGAD Project Status Report at
http://www.jri-poland.org/agad/agadtowns.html.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
Many, maybe all? of the cities on your list are
actually not Prussian, but Galician cities which were
Austrian, then Polish, and are now part of Ukraine.
These records are in the AGAD archives and most have
already been indexed by JRI-Poland and are available
on their website. The dates you give are out of date -
AGAD has records that are 100 years old and older - so
there are many more records beyond 1894. For most of
these cities, the years given are misleading - for
some, the early years are only death records. Check
the current lists of available and indexed records at
JRI-Poland's website.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Some Warsaw Archive holdings #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Mark is absolutely correct.

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has been indexing this
collection for over two years. Due to Polish privacy laws,
JRI-Poland cannot index records that are 100 years old or less. A
more updated inventory of the Zabuzanskie collection (excluding
records 100 years old or less) can be found at the JRI-Poland
AGAD Project Status Report at
http://www.jri-poland.org/agad/agadtowns.html.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
Many, maybe all? of the cities on your list are
actually not Prussian, but Galician cities which were
Austrian, then Polish, and are now part of Ukraine.
These records are in the AGAD archives and most have
already been indexed by JRI-Poland and are available
on their website. The dates you give are out of date -
AGAD has records that are 100 years old and older - so
there are many more records beyond 1894. For most of
these cities, the years given are misleading - for
some, the early years are only death records. Check
the current lists of available and indexed records at
JRI-Poland's website.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


View Mate - Do you recognize? #general

L. Altman <altmanlh@...>
 

Hello all;
I have posted a picture of what I believe to be my great grandmothers
family. These individuals are either connected to the Lieberman family of
Galati, Romania or they may be some of the Liebermans >from Galati, Romania.
If anyone out there recognizes anyone in this photo or if anyone can give me
an idea of where it was taken, it would be a big help. Right now all I have
is a Yiddish caption on the reverse of the photo and the photo. Thanks in
advance, please respond privately. The direct link is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3435

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen View Mate - Do you recognize? #general

L. Altman <altmanlh@...>
 

Hello all;
I have posted a picture of what I believe to be my great grandmothers
family. These individuals are either connected to the Lieberman family of
Galati, Romania or they may be some of the Liebermans >from Galati, Romania.
If anyone out there recognizes anyone in this photo or if anyone can give me
an idea of where it was taken, it would be a big help. Right now all I have
is a Yiddish caption on the reverse of the photo and the photo. Thanks in
advance, please respond privately. The direct link is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3435

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC


Extracts of marriage, birth and death registers #ukraine

Jeff Malka <malkajef@...>
 

If one knows the record numbers of various marriage, birth and death records
in a RAGS, is it possible to get official extracts >from the Ukraine?

Jeff Malka
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG


Re: Krochmal #ukraine

Yekkey@...
 

Richard,

Nachman Krochmal was one of the earliest "modern" scholars of Talmud whose
studies and writings lead to the formation of Conservative Judaism. Look him up
in the Jewish Encyclopedia, perhaps he was related to you.

How are things in Hazleton? I spent a good deal of time there in my youth. Do
you know the Schlosses, the Strausses, the Itzkowitzes, the Klines or Phyllis
Cohen. How are they all?

Dan Nussbaum


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Extracts of marriage, birth and death registers #ukraine

Jeff Malka <malkajef@...>
 

If one knows the record numbers of various marriage, birth and death records
in a RAGS, is it possible to get official extracts >from the Ukraine?

Jeff Malka
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Krochmal #ukraine

Yekkey@...
 

Richard,

Nachman Krochmal was one of the earliest "modern" scholars of Talmud whose
studies and writings lead to the formation of Conservative Judaism. Look him up
in the Jewish Encyclopedia, perhaps he was related to you.

How are things in Hazleton? I spent a good deal of time there in my youth. Do
you know the Schlosses, the Strausses, the Itzkowitzes, the Klines or Phyllis
Cohen. How are they all?

Dan Nussbaum


Father is not recorded in any inhabitants registry #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

In the Kishinev birth records for November 1893 we
came across the natation "Father is not recorded in
any inhabitants registry".

Does anyone know exactly what this means? It is the
first time we came across this notation in any of
births that we have transliterated. We have had many
notations where the father was >from another town and
the name of the town is given.

Bob Wascou
Kishinev Vital Records
Project Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Father is not recorded in any inhabitants registry #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

In the Kishinev birth records for November 1893 we
came across the natation "Father is not recorded in
any inhabitants registry".

Does anyone know exactly what this means? It is the
first time we came across this notation in any of
births that we have transliterated. We have had many
notations where the father was >from another town and
the name of the town is given.

Bob Wascou
Kishinev Vital Records
Project Coordinator


Re: Kagal #belarus

MMS <mms@...>
 

1. Am I correct in assuming that Kagal means community? What lanuguage in Kagal?
--snip

As there is no "H" in Russian, it is usually replaced by "G".
If we change "G" back to "H", we have "KAHAL", which means "community" in Hebrew.

Moshe Shavit
Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Kagal #belarus

MMS <mms@...>
 

1. Am I correct in assuming that Kagal means community? What lanuguage in Kagal?
--snip

As there is no "H" in Russian, it is usually replaced by "G".
If we change "G" back to "H", we have "KAHAL", which means "community" in Hebrew.

Moshe Shavit
Israel


Father is not recorded in any inhabitants registry #romania

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

In the Kishinev birth records for November 1893 we
came across the notation "Father is not recorded in
any inhabitants registry".

Does anyone know exactly what this means? It is the
first time we came across this notation in any of
births that we have transliterated. We have had many
notations where the father was >from another town and
the name of the town is given.

Bob Wascou
Kishinev Vital Records
Project Coordinator


Romania SIG #Romania Father is not recorded in any inhabitants registry #romania

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

In the Kishinev birth records for November 1893 we
came across the notation "Father is not recorded in
any inhabitants registry".

Does anyone know exactly what this means? It is the
first time we came across this notation in any of
births that we have transliterated. We have had many
notations where the father was >from another town and
the name of the town is given.

Bob Wascou
Kishinev Vital Records
Project Coordinator


Russia - Which One Are you Referring to? #general

budblaher@...
 

In posting of messages to the discussion group, I note that when referring
to the country, Russia, concerning a specific area, the person making the
posting may be talking about the Russia of a different era since that was
what was recorded in documents. However, what was once a province of Russia
in some bygone era, is currently a part of Poland, Belarus, Ukraine,
Lithuania, Moldavia, or etc. Russia was, and still is the largest entity in
the world. However, its borders have changed over the years gone by. If a
posting refers to "Russia" without clarification, it leaves much to be
desired by readers when trying to see a connection to today's world. The
reason for my bringing this to the group's attention is that I am
researching in locations in today's Russia. I also am concerned with
Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, etc., but only where the shetl, town,
or city are in those locations of today. Your posting should probably refer
to "Belarus, formerly Russia" or "Belarus, once Russia", or other clarifying
statement. Since you take the time to refer to a specific shtel at some
longitude/latitude, why not be more specific in your general reference to
some place in today's former Russia.

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL
budblaher@earthlink.net

Researching: BLECHER, BERMAN, BALONOV, PESACHOWITZ, TIPOGRAPHOV, GREENBURG,
TOULBOVICH, LEONTIEV, HASKIN, RUTMAN of Perm, Moscow, Izveshk, Vyatka,
Russia, and Israel
LIBERMAN, LUFT, LIKHALTER, BLUSZTEIN, BAKALARZ, DYAMENT of Konstantynow,
Miedzyrzec, Janow, Radzin, Zamosc, Siedlce, Poland


Pearl M. Sherman of NYC #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

I'm trying to locate Pearl M. Sherman, who lived on Walton Avenue in NYC
in the early 1960s. She was a 1962 graduate of SUNY Albany. Sherman is
her family name. I don't know if she married.

Please respond privately.

--
Shelley K. Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russia - Which One Are you Referring to? #general

budblaher@...
 

In posting of messages to the discussion group, I note that when referring
to the country, Russia, concerning a specific area, the person making the
posting may be talking about the Russia of a different era since that was
what was recorded in documents. However, what was once a province of Russia
in some bygone era, is currently a part of Poland, Belarus, Ukraine,
Lithuania, Moldavia, or etc. Russia was, and still is the largest entity in
the world. However, its borders have changed over the years gone by. If a
posting refers to "Russia" without clarification, it leaves much to be
desired by readers when trying to see a connection to today's world. The
reason for my bringing this to the group's attention is that I am
researching in locations in today's Russia. I also am concerned with
Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, etc., but only where the shetl, town,
or city are in those locations of today. Your posting should probably refer
to "Belarus, formerly Russia" or "Belarus, once Russia", or other clarifying
statement. Since you take the time to refer to a specific shtel at some
longitude/latitude, why not be more specific in your general reference to
some place in today's former Russia.

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL
budblaher@earthlink.net

Researching: BLECHER, BERMAN, BALONOV, PESACHOWITZ, TIPOGRAPHOV, GREENBURG,
TOULBOVICH, LEONTIEV, HASKIN, RUTMAN of Perm, Moscow, Izveshk, Vyatka,
Russia, and Israel
LIBERMAN, LUFT, LIKHALTER, BLUSZTEIN, BAKALARZ, DYAMENT of Konstantynow,
Miedzyrzec, Janow, Radzin, Zamosc, Siedlce, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pearl M. Sherman of NYC #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

I'm trying to locate Pearl M. Sherman, who lived on Walton Avenue in NYC
in the early 1960s. She was a 1962 graduate of SUNY Albany. Sherman is
her family name. I don't know if she married.

Please respond privately.

--
Shelley K. Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net