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Re: Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta? #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

I've also got a Berta that I'm confused about. We have a gravestone (d.
1936) with the Hebrew name Basha, Hungarian name Berta. We have a photo
of an "Aunt Bella" who died about that time. We also have an Erzika
which I assume is Erzsibet for whom we don't have a last name or Hebrew
name.
Any thoughts would be welcome.
Lynn Saul

-----Original Message-----
From: Sara Wenger [mailto:sara_wenger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:29 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta?


I found a reference to a Hungarian aunt named
Erzsibet. She is not listed in the LDS records.
However, a Berta is listed >from the same parents.
Could anyone familiar with Hungarian names comment if
a woman born as Berta (1891) may have Hungarianized(?)
her name to Erzsibet later?

Thanks

Sara


Re: Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as far as i know, "berta" is a nickname for "erzse'bet" (note that it is spelled with an "e" with an accent over it). other nicknames for erzse'bet are erzsi, bo:zsi, and bo:ske. i am not familiar with "erzsibet" (with an "i"), but then again, i'm no expert...


....... tom klein, toronto

Sara Wenger <sara_wenger@yahoo.com> wrote:

I found a reference to a Hungarian aunt named Erzsibet. She is not
listed in the LDS records. However, a Berta is listed >from the same
parents. Could anyone familiar with Hungarian names comment if a
woman born as Berta (1891) may have Hungarianized(?) her name to
Erzsibet later?

Thanks

Sara


Vidor Gyorgy #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Hi,

Can anybody help me find a relative Vidor Gyorgy (Gyuri) or his family? He
was still alive and living in Budapest in 1968?

His parents were Jozsef Weisz and Hermina who hungarianized their names to
Vidor. He had a sister Ilonka (Ilka) Weisz Vidor.

Thank you.

george


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta? #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

I've also got a Berta that I'm confused about. We have a gravestone (d.
1936) with the Hebrew name Basha, Hungarian name Berta. We have a photo
of an "Aunt Bella" who died about that time. We also have an Erzika
which I assume is Erzsibet for whom we don't have a last name or Hebrew
name.
Any thoughts would be welcome.
Lynn Saul

-----Original Message-----
From: Sara Wenger [mailto:sara_wenger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:29 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta?


I found a reference to a Hungarian aunt named
Erzsibet. She is not listed in the LDS records.
However, a Berta is listed >from the same parents.
Could anyone familiar with Hungarian names comment if
a woman born as Berta (1891) may have Hungarianized(?)
her name to Erzsibet later?

Thanks

Sara


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian name Erzsibet vs. Berta? #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as far as i know, "berta" is a nickname for "erzse'bet" (note that it is spelled with an "e" with an accent over it). other nicknames for erzse'bet are erzsi, bo:zsi, and bo:ske. i am not familiar with "erzsibet" (with an "i"), but then again, i'm no expert...


....... tom klein, toronto

Sara Wenger <sara_wenger@yahoo.com> wrote:

I found a reference to a Hungarian aunt named Erzsibet. She is not
listed in the LDS records. However, a Berta is listed >from the same
parents. Could anyone familiar with Hungarian names comment if a
woman born as Berta (1891) may have Hungarianized(?) her name to
Erzsibet later?

Thanks

Sara


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vidor Gyorgy #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Hi,

Can anybody help me find a relative Vidor Gyorgy (Gyuri) or his family? He
was still alive and living in Budapest in 1968?

His parents were Jozsef Weisz and Hermina who hungarianized their names to
Vidor. He had a sister Ilonka (Ilka) Weisz Vidor.

Thank you.

george


Re: Old Latin #hungary

Robert Neu
 

It is Latin allright, but not "old"
Solutions: 1.viewmate - some one might be able to do it.
2.Latin is most probably taught at one of the
colleges/university around where you are.
3.Go to your FHL branch and have them order if they don't
have it the "Latin" guideline that they have for genealogical purposes
giving most terms used in research. The reference is "34077" and the
cost $0.50.
Robert Neu

Marian Brown <brownm@peoplepc.com> wrote:
I have a copy of the 1781/2 Jewish census for Saros County, Slovakia.
It is in "old" Latin. Can anyone suggest a source for translation?

TX very much,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Old Latin #hungary

Robert Neu
 

It is Latin allright, but not "old"
Solutions: 1.viewmate - some one might be able to do it.
2.Latin is most probably taught at one of the
colleges/university around where you are.
3.Go to your FHL branch and have them order if they don't
have it the "Latin" guideline that they have for genealogical purposes
giving most terms used in research. The reference is "34077" and the
cost $0.50.
Robert Neu

Marian Brown <brownm@peoplepc.com> wrote:
I have a copy of the 1781/2 Jewish census for Saros County, Slovakia.
It is in "old" Latin. Can anyone suggest a source for translation?

TX very much,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH


Julie LEVY #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I have two Julie LEVY and would like to establish whom and when they
married

Julie [1] LEVY born 12 Jan 1832 in Cernay (Haut-Rhin) >from Victor LEVY
and Brigitte BERNHEIM - I have no spouse

Julie [2] LEVY born 5 Apr 1801 in probably Strasbourg >from Nephtali
LEVY and Sara LANG

I have a potential spouse of David Weill but do not know to which one.

Any help would be appreciated

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco


French SIG #France Julie LEVY #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I have two Julie LEVY and would like to establish whom and when they
married

Julie [1] LEVY born 12 Jan 1832 in Cernay (Haut-Rhin) >from Victor LEVY
and Brigitte BERNHEIM - I have no spouse

Julie [2] LEVY born 5 Apr 1801 in probably Strasbourg >from Nephtali
LEVY and Sara LANG

I have a potential spouse of David Weill but do not know to which one.

Any help would be appreciated

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco


Re: looking for information on Resistance/LUSTIG Family Nancy,France #france

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

I want to thank all that have written me with regards to my
Grandparents (I did learn something new) and appreciate the time taken
by all, but I believe I didn't word my message properly. To correct
myself, I am looking for anyone who might have more information in
connection to their "resistance/rescue" work.

Secondly, we are aware that they were deported to Auschwitz on Convoy
#11. We have a record showing that my Grandfather (Benjamin Hirsch
Lustig) was "tatooed" on entry, but there is nothing on my Grandmother
Lea Elisabeth Lusting, nee Klinger after her arrival. The Red Cross is
looking, but more help couldn't hurt.

I apologize for the confusion and again thank you all,

Debby Gincig Painter
Michigan, USA


French SIG #France RE:looking for information on Resistance/LUSTIG Family Nancy,France #france

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

I want to thank all that have written me with regards to my
Grandparents (I did learn something new) and appreciate the time taken
by all, but I believe I didn't word my message properly. To correct
myself, I am looking for anyone who might have more information in
connection to their "resistance/rescue" work.

Secondly, we are aware that they were deported to Auschwitz on Convoy
#11. We have a record showing that my Grandfather (Benjamin Hirsch
Lustig) was "tatooed" on entry, but there is nothing on my Grandmother
Lea Elisabeth Lusting, nee Klinger after her arrival. The Red Cross is
looking, but more help couldn't hurt.

I apologize for the confusion and again thank you all,

Debby Gincig Painter
Michigan, USA


Is JewishGen known to computer-savvy former Soviet Jews? #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

While sitting at my computer and wishing there were List participants
from "the old country," it occurred to me to wonder if even those
Jews with computer access are aware of JewishGen, it's work and
personal volunteer nature.

Does anyone on the list know? Is it the sort of information the
humanitarian/communal/Jewish groups or Jewish publications over there
would disseminate?

Michelle Frager, NY area


Kisvarda Cemetery #ukraine

hfpjc
 

Dear Genners,

In accordance with the current complete reconstruction of the Kisvarda
cemetery and the erection and rewriting of approximately 700 tombstones
there, (this is in addition to the beautiful, concrete fence built 2 years
ago by some descendants) we at the Heritage Foundation for Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries (a.k.a. HFPJC) would appreciate any information regarding
the exzistence of any mass graves in the Kisvarda cemetery post WWII. Please
notify us at the following e-mail address:
gen@jewishcemeterypreservation.org

Best wishes,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant Director
HFPJC


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Is JewishGen known to computer-savvy former Soviet Jews? #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

While sitting at my computer and wishing there were List participants
from "the old country," it occurred to me to wonder if even those
Jews with computer access are aware of JewishGen, it's work and
personal volunteer nature.

Does anyone on the list know? Is it the sort of information the
humanitarian/communal/Jewish groups or Jewish publications over there
would disseminate?

Michelle Frager, NY area


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kisvarda Cemetery #ukraine

hfpjc
 

Dear Genners,

In accordance with the current complete reconstruction of the Kisvarda
cemetery and the erection and rewriting of approximately 700 tombstones
there, (this is in addition to the beautiful, concrete fence built 2 years
ago by some descendants) we at the Heritage Foundation for Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries (a.k.a. HFPJC) would appreciate any information regarding
the exzistence of any mass graves in the Kisvarda cemetery post WWII. Please
notify us at the following e-mail address:
gen@jewishcemeterypreservation.org

Best wishes,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant Director
HFPJC


Again Re: Re: "Kirovograd" and "Nova Praha" Ukraine #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 12/17/03 9:38:23 PM, Yekkey writes:

<< Nova Praha is a city in Minnesota. In English it is called New Prague.

Dan Nussbaum >>

It would be fun to compile a list of the many USA cities and towns which
were named after English, European and Russian and even biblical ones and do
research about the groups of people who named them when they settled in the US.

Odessa, Texas, is a well-known example, Paris, Illinois is another I can
think of quickly. Here in Indiana, Carmel and Goshen are some of the biblical
place names.

But Rabbi Saydman had asked about the Nova Praha in the Ukraine so that is
the one I tried to help him with when I mentioned Novaya Praga in the Kirovograd
oblast, a town not far >from the Kirovograd city which he had also inquired
about.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Lubny #ukraine

Gayle Schlissel Riley <Key2pst@...>
 

Has anyone traveled to Lubny, Ukraine? Had any success using town
records? I am thinking of traveling to there before after the Conv. in
Jerusalem. Gayle >from San Gabriel


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Again Re: Re: "Kirovograd" and "Nova Praha" Ukraine #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 12/17/03 9:38:23 PM, Yekkey writes:

<< Nova Praha is a city in Minnesota. In English it is called New Prague.

Dan Nussbaum >>

It would be fun to compile a list of the many USA cities and towns which
were named after English, European and Russian and even biblical ones and do
research about the groups of people who named them when they settled in the US.

Odessa, Texas, is a well-known example, Paris, Illinois is another I can
think of quickly. Here in Indiana, Carmel and Goshen are some of the biblical
place names.

But Rabbi Saydman had asked about the Nova Praha in the Ukraine so that is
the one I tried to help him with when I mentioned Novaya Praga in the Kirovograd
oblast, a town not far >from the Kirovograd city which he had also inquired
about.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Lubny #ukraine

Gayle Schlissel Riley <Key2pst@...>
 

Has anyone traveled to Lubny, Ukraine? Had any success using town
records? I am thinking of traveling to there before after the Conv. in
Jerusalem. Gayle >from San Gabriel