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The October 2003 Issue of Sharsheret Hadorot. #general

Goldschmidt
 

This issue is rather diverse. In the area of genealogical
research of one's family, we have an article of Mr.
Ilan Borovic, discussing his family during World War II,
the item by Mr. Eli Samson telling of a combination of
peculiar events and experiences during his research
and the piece by Mr.Joseph Covo focusing on the
origin of his family name and its metamorphosis.

In Mathilde Tagger's well-detailed and organized article,
we are presented with another aspect in the study of
names - the family names of the Jews of Bulgaria.
Ms. Tagger skillfully leads us through the various
types of family names according to their origins
and shows us how they reflect the history
of the Jews of the country.

Three essays deal with what we can call 'genealogical aids.'
Ms. Carol Edan recommends that we record family trees on
CDs and explains how to do it; Ms. Zippi Rosenne
discusses the "Visual Documentation Center" at the
Diaspora Museum and Dr. Yehuda Klausner continues
his series of short chapters on ways to record
genealogical data.

The area of history, the longstanding companion of
genealogy, is represented in this issue by the
comprehensive article by Dr. Martha Lev-Zion on Jewish
life in central Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries.
Dr. Lev-Zion spreads out a wide scope in which she
covers the daily life including customs of
marriage and brit mila, as well as the education
of children and their study of Torah. She also
discusses local customs - all of this on the
background of frequent expulsions and the
Thirty Years War.

Mathilde Tagger relates a short story on the names
of two of her forbearers.

I am sure that in every family, legends, anecdotes,
humorous stories and proverbs, pass >from generation
to generation. We ask our members to share
their stories with us. A new contributor to
Sharsheret Hadorot is Mr. Shlomo David >from our
Haifa branch. He shows us, how according to Rashi's
interpretation of a verse in the Book of Numbers,
even in ancient times our ancestors maintained family
trees and when the census was taken in the
desert, they presented them before all of the people.

Our librarian, Harriet Kasow, continues her reports
on new books, which have been added to our library,
on the continuing activity of IGS and on
conferences and meetings that have taken place in
Israel over the past few months.

A summary of foreign journals has been provided,
as always, by Ms. Mathilde Tagger (Hebrew) and
Mr. Harold Lewin (English).


We are pleased to announce that beginning with next year,
2004, Sharsheret Hadorot will become a quarterly,
appearing four times a year. In anticipation of
this change, this copy is expanded and its issue
number appears as 17/3-4, 2003.

With the beginning of the new Jewish year of 5764,
we wish to extend, in the name of the editorial board,
heartfelt greetings to all, with the hope that
it be an interesting year with success in
genealogical research.

Best wishes and Shana Tova,

Joseph Goldschmidt
Sharsheret Hadorot


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The October 2003 Issue of Sharsheret Hadorot. #general

Goldschmidt
 

This issue is rather diverse. In the area of genealogical
research of one's family, we have an article of Mr.
Ilan Borovic, discussing his family during World War II,
the item by Mr. Eli Samson telling of a combination of
peculiar events and experiences during his research
and the piece by Mr.Joseph Covo focusing on the
origin of his family name and its metamorphosis.

In Mathilde Tagger's well-detailed and organized article,
we are presented with another aspect in the study of
names - the family names of the Jews of Bulgaria.
Ms. Tagger skillfully leads us through the various
types of family names according to their origins
and shows us how they reflect the history
of the Jews of the country.

Three essays deal with what we can call 'genealogical aids.'
Ms. Carol Edan recommends that we record family trees on
CDs and explains how to do it; Ms. Zippi Rosenne
discusses the "Visual Documentation Center" at the
Diaspora Museum and Dr. Yehuda Klausner continues
his series of short chapters on ways to record
genealogical data.

The area of history, the longstanding companion of
genealogy, is represented in this issue by the
comprehensive article by Dr. Martha Lev-Zion on Jewish
life in central Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries.
Dr. Lev-Zion spreads out a wide scope in which she
covers the daily life including customs of
marriage and brit mila, as well as the education
of children and their study of Torah. She also
discusses local customs - all of this on the
background of frequent expulsions and the
Thirty Years War.

Mathilde Tagger relates a short story on the names
of two of her forbearers.

I am sure that in every family, legends, anecdotes,
humorous stories and proverbs, pass >from generation
to generation. We ask our members to share
their stories with us. A new contributor to
Sharsheret Hadorot is Mr. Shlomo David >from our
Haifa branch. He shows us, how according to Rashi's
interpretation of a verse in the Book of Numbers,
even in ancient times our ancestors maintained family
trees and when the census was taken in the
desert, they presented them before all of the people.

Our librarian, Harriet Kasow, continues her reports
on new books, which have been added to our library,
on the continuing activity of IGS and on
conferences and meetings that have taken place in
Israel over the past few months.

A summary of foreign journals has been provided,
as always, by Ms. Mathilde Tagger (Hebrew) and
Mr. Harold Lewin (English).


We are pleased to announce that beginning with next year,
2004, Sharsheret Hadorot will become a quarterly,
appearing four times a year. In anticipation of
this change, this copy is expanded and its issue
number appears as 17/3-4, 2003.

With the beginning of the new Jewish year of 5764,
we wish to extend, in the name of the editorial board,
heartfelt greetings to all, with the hope that
it be an interesting year with success in
genealogical research.

Best wishes and Shana Tova,

Joseph Goldschmidt
Sharsheret Hadorot


hebrew spelling for the name Choel #general

Nicolas Trokiner <paulsimon@...>
 

Hello,

I'm trying to locate some possible relatives in Israel
with the name of Choel, originally >from Salonika, Greece.
I looked at Bezeq white pages but I'm not sure of the
correct speeling? Is it "Shin-vav-alef-lamed" or
"Shin-vav-ayin-lamed" or something else?

Both spellings return a lot of results which is for
me very strange since that name is very very rare.
Does that mean that for a same hebrew spelling,
there are different names? For example, "Shin-vav-ayin-lamed"
can be Shoual.

Thanks

Nicolas Trokiner
Paris France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen hebrew spelling for the name Choel #general

Nicolas Trokiner <paulsimon@...>
 

Hello,

I'm trying to locate some possible relatives in Israel
with the name of Choel, originally >from Salonika, Greece.
I looked at Bezeq white pages but I'm not sure of the
correct speeling? Is it "Shin-vav-alef-lamed" or
"Shin-vav-ayin-lamed" or something else?

Both spellings return a lot of results which is for
me very strange since that name is very very rare.
Does that mean that for a same hebrew spelling,
there are different names? For example, "Shin-vav-ayin-lamed"
can be Shoual.

Thanks

Nicolas Trokiner
Paris France


Jewish Genealogists in Massachusetts #general

Jonathon Podolsky
 

Do you know any Jewish genealogist who lives in or
visits the Berkshires? The Western Massachusetts Jewish
Genealogy Society usually meets in Hampshire, Hampden,
and Franklin County, but we would like to help those in
nearby Berkshire County, Massachusetts to hold meetings
and events. If you know of anyone please let me know.

By the way, we are co-sponsoring a lecture by Ron Arons
"Using the Internet to Find Anything and Anyone".
Mr Arons is a seasoned genealogist and lecturer.
The lecture will be at the National Yiddish Book Center
in Amherst on October 14 at 7:30.

If you would like more information,
please let me know.

Kind regards,
--
Jonathon Podolsky
Founder, Western Massachusetts Jewish Genealogy Society
genealogy@Podolsky.cc
http://www.wmjgs.org
Phone/Fax: 413/585-9614

Researching surnames: ABEND, HARTMANN, SEIDEN, WASSERMAN, SHIMAN, KRAUT
from Wola Ranizowska near Kolbuszowa, Poland (Galicia region).
PODOLSKY, BAGUS, RUDERMAN, MASSARSKY, CARSON, KRICHEC >from Babruvy Kut,
Ukraine.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogists in Massachusetts #general

Jonathon Podolsky
 

Do you know any Jewish genealogist who lives in or
visits the Berkshires? The Western Massachusetts Jewish
Genealogy Society usually meets in Hampshire, Hampden,
and Franklin County, but we would like to help those in
nearby Berkshire County, Massachusetts to hold meetings
and events. If you know of anyone please let me know.

By the way, we are co-sponsoring a lecture by Ron Arons
"Using the Internet to Find Anything and Anyone".
Mr Arons is a seasoned genealogist and lecturer.
The lecture will be at the National Yiddish Book Center
in Amherst on October 14 at 7:30.

If you would like more information,
please let me know.

Kind regards,
--
Jonathon Podolsky
Founder, Western Massachusetts Jewish Genealogy Society
genealogy@Podolsky.cc
http://www.wmjgs.org
Phone/Fax: 413/585-9614

Researching surnames: ABEND, HARTMANN, SEIDEN, WASSERMAN, SHIMAN, KRAUT
from Wola Ranizowska near Kolbuszowa, Poland (Galicia region).
PODOLSKY, BAGUS, RUDERMAN, MASSARSKY, CARSON, KRICHEC >from Babruvy Kut,
Ukraine.


Schenker Birth Certificates #general

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

Any help and suggestions in the below matter will be greatly
appreciated.

I would like to locate and obtain a copy of the birth
certificates of both my father and my uncle. I know
that my father (Jankal) was born on June 8, 1904 and my
uncle (Gimann) was born on March 1, 1906. I know
that their parents were Josef (born between 1882 - 1884) and
Ciwze (no maiden name know, born between 1878 - 1882).
Josef and Ciwze were married between 1902 - 1903.

Two major facts are not very clear:
1- Where were my father and my uncle born?
. Brestz-Litovski, Russia where their Ellis Island
records indicate.
Also the 1920 United States Federal Census records
indicate that they were born in Brestz-Litovski, Russia.
You can see the actual census records by going to the
below web site:
http://community.webshots.com/user/schenkerfamilyhistory
. Minsk, Russia a town that has been mentioned as a
possible birth site
. Pinsk, Russia another town that has been mentioned
as a possible birth site
2- What was there Surname at birth and how was it spelled?
. Surnames with the same Schenker Daitch-Mokotoff soundex are:
Cenzer, Cenzor
Junker
Schanker, Schantzer, Schencker, Schmitzer, Schniker,
Schnitzer, Senzer, Shenker, Singer Yanker Zanger, Zinger
. Also was their Surname even Schenker. There has been
some mention by my father in the last year of his life,
but never confirmed, that his father Josef's name was
not Schenker but really Tenenbaum (or some
similarly sounding name). As the story goes, Josef was a Russian
dissident who had to escape >from the Tzar's police and
army during the uprisings and civil disturbances in the
early 1900's - and that before he left Russia in or
about 1906 he changed his name >from Schenker to
Tenenbaum. There are no records here in the United States
to indicate that this is anything more than a possible story.

Thanks again. Any help or suggestion will be greatly
appreciated.


Larry Schenker
Los Angeles CA 90024-7335
e-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net
(Note that the first character is the letter
"l" like in "larry" not the numeric "1")


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Schenker Birth Certificates #general

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

Any help and suggestions in the below matter will be greatly
appreciated.

I would like to locate and obtain a copy of the birth
certificates of both my father and my uncle. I know
that my father (Jankal) was born on June 8, 1904 and my
uncle (Gimann) was born on March 1, 1906. I know
that their parents were Josef (born between 1882 - 1884) and
Ciwze (no maiden name know, born between 1878 - 1882).
Josef and Ciwze were married between 1902 - 1903.

Two major facts are not very clear:
1- Where were my father and my uncle born?
. Brestz-Litovski, Russia where their Ellis Island
records indicate.
Also the 1920 United States Federal Census records
indicate that they were born in Brestz-Litovski, Russia.
You can see the actual census records by going to the
below web site:
http://community.webshots.com/user/schenkerfamilyhistory
. Minsk, Russia a town that has been mentioned as a
possible birth site
. Pinsk, Russia another town that has been mentioned
as a possible birth site
2- What was there Surname at birth and how was it spelled?
. Surnames with the same Schenker Daitch-Mokotoff soundex are:
Cenzer, Cenzor
Junker
Schanker, Schantzer, Schencker, Schmitzer, Schniker,
Schnitzer, Senzer, Shenker, Singer Yanker Zanger, Zinger
. Also was their Surname even Schenker. There has been
some mention by my father in the last year of his life,
but never confirmed, that his father Josef's name was
not Schenker but really Tenenbaum (or some
similarly sounding name). As the story goes, Josef was a Russian
dissident who had to escape >from the Tzar's police and
army during the uprisings and civil disturbances in the
early 1900's - and that before he left Russia in or
about 1906 he changed his name >from Schenker to
Tenenbaum. There are no records here in the United States
to indicate that this is anything more than a possible story.

Thanks again. Any help or suggestion will be greatly
appreciated.


Larry Schenker
Los Angeles CA 90024-7335
e-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net
(Note that the first character is the letter
"l" like in "larry" not the numeric "1")


Convoy #73 #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The site dedicated to the deportees of the Convoy #73,
who left Drancy (France) on 15 May 1944, is being updated at

http://www.convoi73.org/francais/900francaisf/temoignages.html

from now on, the biographies of five deportees of that
transport are online and others will follow,
as soon as we receive their authors' authorizations.
For the moment, they are only in French (even if the
rest of the site has an English and a Spanish translation)
but we hope to be able to translate them soon.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Convoy #73 #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The site dedicated to the deportees of the Convoy #73,
who left Drancy (France) on 15 May 1944, is being updated at

http://www.convoi73.org/francais/900francaisf/temoignages.html

from now on, the biographies of five deportees of that
transport are online and others will follow,
as soon as we receive their authors' authorizations.
For the moment, they are only in French (even if the
rest of the site has an English and a Spanish translation)
but we hope to be able to translate them soon.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


thanks for NYC lookup + Rabbi location question #general

Maya Elbaz <elbazm@...>
 

Hello all,

I would like to reiterate my thanks for the many who looked up
Herta & Sam Seidman for me. A particular thanks to Alice from
Miami and Avrum Geller who made additional inquiries and (sadly)
found out that Herta had passed away.

Avrum Geller was kind enough to send me the obituary >from the NY
times, in which there is reference to a cousin I do not know, a
Rabbi Moshe Handelsman >from Brooklyn. this cousin may or may not
be related to me, depending on whether he is descended >from the
Handelsman - Luwisch marriage that took place sometime in the
late 1800s or >from a sibling/cousin of the Handelsman that
married the Luwisch woman.

Either way, I would of course like to track him down and find
out, especially as I know that there are 2 Handelsman (or
Andelsman) sisters living in Paris, both married, who are
also my third cousins - but I have no names at all.

Internet searches in various online directories recommended
to me by some of the many helpful genners who answered my
initial query yielded an address for one Moshe Handelsman
in Brooklyn. However, google shows a few other Moshe Handelsmans.
My questions: does any NY or possibly Brooklyn genner who attends
temple know of a Rabbi Moshe Handelsman? is there any way to
track down a Rabbi through a Jewish organization? And does anyone
have any tips for finding relatives in Paris when you don't know
their first name or married name (well...)

thanks again everyone! (and please reply privately)

Maya Elbaz
Ramat-Gan, Israel

Researching: LUWISCH; HILSENROD/ HILSENRAD/ HILSENRATH; SALPETER;
ERLICH; NEWLAND (LEVI); NASH; of Karapchu (4189 by 2527, near
Cernivci) + Sloboda Rungurska (4827 by 2449, district of
Peczenizyn, Stanislawow, Galicia) + Vienna +Frankfurt + Zurich +
London; RUBINSTEIN/RUVINSTEIN of Odessa; WALLACH of Odessa;
and in other regions:
ANDERMAN;BITTER; HANDELSMAN; HEGER; LOEBEL; MEHER; NAGLER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen thanks for NYC lookup + Rabbi location question #general

Maya Elbaz <elbazm@...>
 

Hello all,

I would like to reiterate my thanks for the many who looked up
Herta & Sam Seidman for me. A particular thanks to Alice from
Miami and Avrum Geller who made additional inquiries and (sadly)
found out that Herta had passed away.

Avrum Geller was kind enough to send me the obituary >from the NY
times, in which there is reference to a cousin I do not know, a
Rabbi Moshe Handelsman >from Brooklyn. this cousin may or may not
be related to me, depending on whether he is descended >from the
Handelsman - Luwisch marriage that took place sometime in the
late 1800s or >from a sibling/cousin of the Handelsman that
married the Luwisch woman.

Either way, I would of course like to track him down and find
out, especially as I know that there are 2 Handelsman (or
Andelsman) sisters living in Paris, both married, who are
also my third cousins - but I have no names at all.

Internet searches in various online directories recommended
to me by some of the many helpful genners who answered my
initial query yielded an address for one Moshe Handelsman
in Brooklyn. However, google shows a few other Moshe Handelsmans.
My questions: does any NY or possibly Brooklyn genner who attends
temple know of a Rabbi Moshe Handelsman? is there any way to
track down a Rabbi through a Jewish organization? And does anyone
have any tips for finding relatives in Paris when you don't know
their first name or married name (well...)

thanks again everyone! (and please reply privately)

Maya Elbaz
Ramat-Gan, Israel

Researching: LUWISCH; HILSENROD/ HILSENRAD/ HILSENRATH; SALPETER;
ERLICH; NEWLAND (LEVI); NASH; of Karapchu (4189 by 2527, near
Cernivci) + Sloboda Rungurska (4827 by 2449, district of
Peczenizyn, Stanislawow, Galicia) + Vienna +Frankfurt + Zurich +
London; RUBINSTEIN/RUVINSTEIN of Odessa; WALLACH of Odessa;
and in other regions:
ANDERMAN;BITTER; HANDELSMAN; HEGER; LOEBEL; MEHER; NAGLER


Haganah Archive Web Site #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I just got this announcement yesterday.

It is in Hebrew and you need to be able to type your
search in Hebrew. But for those that do have the ability
to read and type Hebrew, it is the begining. The site
does not have a soundex search, so you have to try
different spellings. Their archive includes typed
interviews of people active in the Haganah back to the 20s.
The interviews were in the 50s.

http://www.archives.mod.gov.il/default_h.asp

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Haganah Archive Web Site #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I just got this announcement yesterday.

It is in Hebrew and you need to be able to type your
search in Hebrew. But for those that do have the ability
to read and type Hebrew, it is the begining. The site
does not have a soundex search, so you have to try
different spellings. Their archive includes typed
interviews of people active in the Haganah back to the 20s.
The interviews were in the 50s.

http://www.archives.mod.gov.il/default_h.asp

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004


Brest-Litovski #general

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

Between the years of 1905 and 1911 was Brest-Litovski ever
considered a part of Poland? I know that the location
is on the border.

I have just discovered the 1930 Federal Census for my
uncle and on this document he indicated that he was born
in Brest-Litovski, Poland.

He was in 1930 about 23 years old. Also a very educated
man who had just graduated >from Law School in the
United States.

Larry Schenker
Los Angeles CA 90024-7335
e-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

(Note that the first character is the letter "l"
like in "larry" not the numeric "1")


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brest-Litovski #general

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

Between the years of 1905 and 1911 was Brest-Litovski ever
considered a part of Poland? I know that the location
is on the border.

I have just discovered the 1930 Federal Census for my
uncle and on this document he indicated that he was born
in Brest-Litovski, Poland.

He was in 1930 about 23 years old. Also a very educated
man who had just graduated >from Law School in the
United States.

Larry Schenker
Los Angeles CA 90024-7335
e-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

(Note that the first character is the letter "l"
like in "larry" not the numeric "1")


Yudah Leib GORDON and "Ahavat David u-Mikhal" (1857) #general

MBernet@...
 

I am looking for a copy of Ahavat David u-Mikhal
("The Love of David and Michal") by Yudah Leib GORDON,
which was published in 1857 (now 130+ years out of
copyright!). Can anyone lead me to a copy, an
anthology, etc.?

Gmar Chatimah Tovah

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: Please responsd privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yudah Leib GORDON and "Ahavat David u-Mikhal" (1857) #general

MBernet@...
 

I am looking for a copy of Ahavat David u-Mikhal
("The Love of David and Michal") by Yudah Leib GORDON,
which was published in 1857 (now 130+ years out of
copyright!). Can anyone lead me to a copy, an
anthology, etc.?

Gmar Chatimah Tovah

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: Please responsd privately


October 14, 2003 Meeting of the JGS of Greater Orlando #general

Herb <herbela@...>
 

Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2003
Place: JCC Maitland, Senior Lounge
Time: 7:00 PM
Program: "If Walls Could Talk," presented by
Edith Schulman, past co-president Rishona-Chaverot Group,
Orlando Chapter of Hadassah.
The Unexpected Discovery of Genealogy Materials secreted
behind the walls of the Family Home and the events
leading up to the Discovery.

Open to all interested in genealogy.

Info: 407-323-9728.

Doris and Don Frank
Lake Mary, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen October 14, 2003 Meeting of the JGS of Greater Orlando #general

Herb <herbela@...>
 

Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2003
Place: JCC Maitland, Senior Lounge
Time: 7:00 PM
Program: "If Walls Could Talk," presented by
Edith Schulman, past co-president Rishona-Chaverot Group,
Orlando Chapter of Hadassah.
The Unexpected Discovery of Genealogy Materials secreted
behind the walls of the Family Home and the events
leading up to the Discovery.

Open to all interested in genealogy.

Info: 407-323-9728.

Doris and Don Frank
Lake Mary, FL