I need to get in contact with Lillian Faffer <lfaffer@juno.com>

but my mail keeps bouncing. If someone has another address or is able to
contact Lillian another way, please ask her to mail me.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

e-mail: kmgradel@dadlnet.dk

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I need to get in contact with Lillian Faffer <lfaffer@juno.com>

but my mail keeps bouncing. If someone has another address or is able to
contact Lillian another way, please ask her to mail me.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

e-mail: kmgradel@dadlnet.dk

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Przytyk, pronounced pshih-tick, is a village in the district of Radom
where several Jews were killed in a pogrom on March 9, 1936. The
perpetrators were acquitted of guilt which caused protests throughout
Poland and an international outcry.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm
jurek@hirschberg.se

HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER (Tarnopol)
BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, STEINBOK, PERLMUTTER (Skalat)

Information on the Glos Gminy Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm

As is stated on that site. "There is no additional meaningful
information about the particular marriage in the newspaper."

The information is not a document but a newspaper containing a list of
marriages with absolutely no additional information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Warszawa Research Group

Przytyk, pronounced pshih-tick, is a village in the district of Radom
where several Jews were killed in a pogrom on March 9, 1936. The
perpetrators were acquitted of guilt which caused protests throughout
Poland and an international outcry.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm
jurek@hirschberg.se

HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER (Tarnopol)
BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, STEINBOK, PERLMUTTER (Skalat)

Information on the Glos Gminy Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm

As is stated on that site. "There is no additional meaningful
information about the particular marriage in the newspaper."

The information is not a document but a newspaper containing a list of
marriages with absolutely no additional information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Warszawa Research Group

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me with a question about traditional patterns
of naming Jewish children. My family comes >from Krojanke, West Prussia,
and all the records I have indicate that, prior to my father's birth in
1901, all my (known) ancestors, without exception, were given fairly
traditional Jewish first names by their parents - Israel, Sara, Jacob,,
Hanne, Hirsch, Rebecca, etc. Then suddenly my paternal grandparents called
their seven children, born between 1901 and 1910, Martin, Ruth, Herbert,
Siegfried, Eva, Ilona, and Arthur.

Am I correct in my belief that most of these are not traditionally Jewish?
If so, does it reflect an idiosyncratic failure to conform on my
grandparents' part? Or is it part of a general trend among Jews in this
region at this time to switch to a more secular nomenclature? Or am I
making a false assumption in holding the view that in earlier times Jews
in West Prussian villages typically gave their children biblical names? Or
is it something else that I haven't tthought of?

The surnames, incidentally, were REICH, MARGONINSKI, KLEIN, ROSENTHAL,
BLUMBERG. Thank you in anticipation.

Joe Rich Melbourne Australia

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me with a question about traditional patterns
of naming Jewish children. My family comes >from Krojanke, West Prussia,
and all the records I have indicate that, prior to my father's birth in
1901, all my (known) ancestors, without exception, were given fairly
traditional Jewish first names by their parents - Israel, Sara, Jacob,,
Hanne, Hirsch, Rebecca, etc. Then suddenly my paternal grandparents called
their seven children, born between 1901 and 1910, Martin, Ruth, Herbert,
Siegfried, Eva, Ilona, and Arthur.

Am I correct in my belief that most of these are not traditionally Jewish?
If so, does it reflect an idiosyncratic failure to conform on my
grandparents' part? Or is it part of a general trend among Jews in this
region at this time to switch to a more secular nomenclature? Or am I
making a false assumption in holding the view that in earlier times Jews
in West Prussian villages typically gave their children biblical names? Or
is it something else that I haven't tthought of?

The surnames, incidentally, were REICH, MARGONINSKI, KLEIN, ROSENTHAL,
BLUMBERG. Thank you in anticipation.

Joe Rich Melbourne Australia

In a message dated 8/30/2003 LMeyer8090@aol.com writes:
MEYER - Gunzenhausen, Bavaria to New York(?), USA in about 1846
==write to the mayor of Gunzenhausen; they'll be pleased to give you what
they have, especially if you supply him with info about the descendants

KRAMER - Nurenberg to Philadelphia, USA in about 1880
search http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE

BERNHEIMER- Ichenhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA in about 1852
LOEB- Baden to Philadelphia, USA about 1865.
REIZENSTEIN - Mulhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA about 1854.

====contact: johann.fleischmann@bnv-bamberg.de
johann is a researcher and lives in Muhlhausen; he'll also be happy to
receive descendant info. Tell him I sent you. I see four REIZENSTEIN in
the index of his publication Mesusa, no. 1

Michael Bernet, New York

In a message dated 8/30/2003 LMeyer8090@aol.com writes:
MEYER - Gunzenhausen, Bavaria to New York(?), USA in about 1846
==write to the mayor of Gunzenhausen; they'll be pleased to give you what
they have, especially if you supply him with info about the descendants

KRAMER - Nurenberg to Philadelphia, USA in about 1880
search http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE

BERNHEIMER- Ichenhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA in about 1852
LOEB- Baden to Philadelphia, USA about 1865.
REIZENSTEIN - Mulhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA about 1854.

====contact: johann.fleischmann@bnv-bamberg.de
johann is a researcher and lives in Muhlhausen; he'll also be happy to
receive descendant info. Tell him I sent you. I see four REIZENSTEIN in
the index of his publication Mesusa, no. 1

Michael Bernet, New York

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 years. I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish
genealogy research. I live in Malmo, Sweden. My native language is
Danish and I also know English, Swedish, Norwigen. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet is
intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: The conection that my great
great great Grandparents have to Germany and about thiere Parents and so
on.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
KLEISDORFF -Bayern,Germany, moved to Ribe, Denmark in 1806
DESSAUER -Kolding, Denmark, moved to Ribe, Denmark and married KLEISDORFF.

Majbrit Christiansen tirbjamnow@hotmail.com Malmo, Sweden

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 years. I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish
genealogy research. I live in Malmo, Sweden. My native language is
Danish and I also know English, Swedish, Norwigen. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet is
intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: The conection that my great
great great Grandparents have to Germany and about thiere Parents and so
on.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
KLEISDORFF -Bayern,Germany, moved to Ribe, Denmark in 1806
DESSAUER -Kolding, Denmark, moved to Ribe, Denmark and married KLEISDORFF.

Majbrit Christiansen tirbjamnow@hotmail.com Malmo, Sweden

Hello Gersig
I have just joined, I have been doing my genealogy for around 2yrs. I live
in London UK, native language English although I now understand enough
Dutch and French to read certificates.

I have got back to ggg grandfather having travelled through France, Belgium and Holland but am stuck at Germany.

My primary goal is to find information on Salomon Jacob COHEN who married
Mina SELICH (poss. SCHLICK). They had at least 2 children Lazarus (aka
Salomon) b1792 Frankfurt and Jacob Salomon born Mar 1797 Frankfurt a Main.
Jacob Salomon is my ggg grandfather.
Jacob married Rachel Izaak LEVEI born 1800(?) Frankfurt a Main. Marriage
date and place unknown. They had the following children Abraham b14/3/1822
Steindorf, Levie b2/5/1828 Germany, Mina bMay 1825 Neudamm, Zele b2/1/1830
Frankfurt, Aaltje b May 1834 Zutphen Holland, Martha b18/8/1836 Gorssel
Holland, Salomon b8/2/1841 Zutphen, Eva b25/5/1843 Zutphen, Betje
b18/6/1846 Zutphen.

The family lived in Zutphen then moved to Brussels around 1860.

I have contacted Frankfurt a Main archives who said they couldn't find
anything, the Frankfurt Museum kindly gave my details to the section on
Holocaust research - so can anyone suggest how I can find some information
on my COHEN's >from Frankfurt.

Grateful for all advice, thanks in advance

Gaby Laws gabylaws@hotmail.com London UK.

Hello Gersig
I have just joined, I have been doing my genealogy for around 2yrs. I live
in London UK, native language English although I now understand enough
Dutch and French to read certificates.

I have got back to ggg grandfather having travelled through France, Belgium and Holland but am stuck at Germany.

My primary goal is to find information on Salomon Jacob COHEN who married
Mina SELICH (poss. SCHLICK). They had at least 2 children Lazarus (aka
Salomon) b1792 Frankfurt and Jacob Salomon born Mar 1797 Frankfurt a Main.
Jacob Salomon is my ggg grandfather.
Jacob married Rachel Izaak LEVEI born 1800(?) Frankfurt a Main. Marriage
date and place unknown. They had the following children Abraham b14/3/1822
Steindorf, Levie b2/5/1828 Germany, Mina bMay 1825 Neudamm, Zele b2/1/1830
Frankfurt, Aaltje b May 1834 Zutphen Holland, Martha b18/8/1836 Gorssel
Holland, Salomon b8/2/1841 Zutphen, Eva b25/5/1843 Zutphen, Betje
b18/6/1846 Zutphen.

The family lived in Zutphen then moved to Brussels around 1860.

I have contacted Frankfurt a Main archives who said they couldn't find
anything, the Frankfurt Museum kindly gave my details to the section on
Holocaust research - so can anyone suggest how I can find some information
on my COHEN's >from Frankfurt.

Grateful for all advice, thanks in advance

Gaby Laws gabylaws@hotmail.com London UK.

Dear Ukraine SIG Members,
There's an opening for someone who'd like to join our friendly moderating
team on our Digest. Moderating would require only an hour a day for 10 days
during each month, & the enjoyment of working behind the scene to facilitate
the questions & messages of fellow members.

Those who would like to join our moderating team are invited to contact me
(Florence Elman) at haflo@shaw.ca . I'll arrange for training & see that
"all is made clear"! ;-) It's very easy once you're into the swing, &
involves very little of your actual time.

I look forward to moderating with you ...
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@shaw.ca

Dear Ukraine SIG Members,
There's an opening for someone who'd like to join our friendly moderating
team on our Digest. Moderating would require only an hour a day for 10 days
during each month, & the enjoyment of working behind the scene to facilitate
the questions & messages of fellow members.

Those who would like to join our moderating team are invited to contact me
(Florence Elman) at haflo@shaw.ca . I'll arrange for training & see that
"all is made clear"! ;-) It's very easy once you're into the swing, &
involves very little of your actual time.

I look forward to moderating with you ...
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@shaw.ca

My family Poliakoff came >from Lokhvitsa in Poltava. Where can I write to have more informations. How can I do to know more about this town and his history? Thank you. Good luck in your research
Karine Poliakoff
Reasearching :POLIAKOFF Mordouck,Mosche, Abraham,Jankel (Ukraine-Lokhvitsa in Poltava)
LOGOWSKI
GABRELSKO
GAPSCHA (Poland-Reudkowo)
MARMOR (Poland-Rudki)
ALTKORN
SATTLER (Poland-Zolynia)

My family Poliakoff came >from Lokhvitsa in Poltava. Where can I write to have more informations. How can I do to know more about this town and his history? Thank you. Good luck in your research
Karine Poliakoff
Reasearching :POLIAKOFF Mordouck,Mosche, Abraham,Jankel (Ukraine-Lokhvitsa in Poltava)
LOGOWSKI
GABRELSKO
GAPSCHA (Poland-Reudkowo)
MARMOR (Poland-Rudki)
ALTKORN
SATTLER (Poland-Zolynia)

Good day!
I am searching for information about the CZACKIS - ROZENBERG family in
Kremenets.
Three of their 9 children emigrated to Argentina in the early thirties.
Srul Icko CZACKIS, his wife Pesie ROZENBERG (both born around 1875), and 6
children remained and
disapeared during the nazi occupation.

Best wishes,
PEDRO CZACKIS
Buenos Aires
ARGENTINA
peckis@ciudad.com.ar

In a message dated 8/19/03, Michelle Leo (shell-leo@comcast.net) writes:

<< My grandmother Fanny (Feigl) KAPLAN came to US in 1907 with her mother

Sarah. They listed both their birthplaces and towns of residences in EIDB

as Risinan, Russia. Her father, Meyer KAPLAN listed his residence and

birthplace in EIDB in 1906 as Odessa, Russia. Meyer and Sarah were first

cousins. Would anyone have any idea of what shtetl Risinan could be?

>>

I think that the most likely possibility is "Rusyani" ("Rusen" or "Ruseni")
which is north west of Kishinev. Kishinev is not extremely far >from Odessa
where Ms. Leo's great grandfather had lived.

A more remote possibility is "Risanan" Ruzhany or Rozana. It is southeast of
Bialystok (Belarus) and south of Volkovisk. There is a yiskor book for this
town entitled "Ruzhinoi" published in 1957.

Still another possibility is "Ruzin," or "Rusin," which is southwest of Kiev
and southeast of Zhitomir.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.