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Lillian Faffer, bounced mail #poland

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

I need to get in contact with Lillian Faffer <lfaffer@juno.com>

but my mail keeps bouncing. If someone has another address or is able to
contact Lillian another way, please ask her to mail me.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

e-mail: kmgradel@dadlnet.dk

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Lillian Faffer, bounced mail #poland

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

I need to get in contact with Lillian Faffer <lfaffer@juno.com>

but my mail keeps bouncing. If someone has another address or is able to
contact Lillian another way, please ask her to mail me.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

e-mail: kmgradel@dadlnet.dk

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: Need translation of /peh-shin-yod-tet-yod-kof/ #general

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek@...>
 

Przytyk, pronounced pshih-tick, is a village in the district of Radom
where several Jews were killed in a pogrom on March 9, 1936. The
perpetrators were acquitted of guilt which caused protests throughout
Poland and an international outcry.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm
jurek@hirschberg.se

HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER (Tarnopol)
BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, STEINBOK, PERLMUTTER (Skalat)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald D. Doctor [mailto:rondoctor@earthlink.net]
To: JRI-Poland
Subject: [jri-pl] Need translation of /peh-shin-yod-tet-yod-kof/

In translating one of the Kremenets Yizkor Books, we have encountered
the word /pe-shin-yod-tet-yod-kuf/. It appears in the following context,

in a passage describing Polish rule in the inter-war years:

During the 1930s, the ruling party "Sanatsya" also started its
corrupt policy, based on threats and oppression, in Kremenets. The
government authorities started to intervene in the life of the
Jewish community, supporting aggresive public workers of their
choice and creating dissent among the Jewish population. All those
who opposed this policy were doomed to persecution; loss of their
livelihood, etc. With political oppression came economic oppression.
The Jews collapsed under the weight of taxes, the sources of their
livelihood were closed to them. The young men, forced to idleness,
were in decline. Under the influence of the authorities an
atmosphere of "Pashitik" penetrated our area. The life of a Jew,
walking alone at night in a street far >from center of town, was not
safe anymore; a worry that Kremenets' Jews did not have for many
generations.


Re: Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy) #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Information on the Glos Gminy Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm

As is stated on that site. "There is no additional meaningful
information about the particular marriage in the newspaper."

The information is not a document but a newspaper containing a list of
marriages with absolutely no additional information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Warszawa Research Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Baruch Bonen [mailto:ibb@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:02 PM
To: JRI-Poland
Subject: [jri-pl] Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy)


I found references to my parents marriage (BINSZTOK Izrael Mojzesz and
RUBIN Mindla) in Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy) Year 1 Vol 6
dated November/December-1937.

I would like to know how can I receive a copy of the document itself.

Can anyone help me on that ?

Thanks.

Baruch Bonen
Israel


JRI Poland #Poland RE: Need translation of /peh-shin-yod-tet-yod-kof/ #poland

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek@...>
 

Przytyk, pronounced pshih-tick, is a village in the district of Radom
where several Jews were killed in a pogrom on March 9, 1936. The
perpetrators were acquitted of guilt which caused protests throughout
Poland and an international outcry.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm
jurek@hirschberg.se

HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER (Tarnopol)
BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, STEINBOK, PERLMUTTER (Skalat)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald D. Doctor [mailto:rondoctor@earthlink.net]
To: JRI-Poland
Subject: [jri-pl] Need translation of /peh-shin-yod-tet-yod-kof/

In translating one of the Kremenets Yizkor Books, we have encountered
the word /pe-shin-yod-tet-yod-kuf/. It appears in the following context,

in a passage describing Polish rule in the inter-war years:

During the 1930s, the ruling party "Sanatsya" also started its
corrupt policy, based on threats and oppression, in Kremenets. The
government authorities started to intervene in the life of the
Jewish community, supporting aggresive public workers of their
choice and creating dissent among the Jewish population. All those
who opposed this policy were doomed to persecution; loss of their
livelihood, etc. With political oppression came economic oppression.
The Jews collapsed under the weight of taxes, the sources of their
livelihood were closed to them. The young men, forced to idleness,
were in decline. Under the influence of the authorities an
atmosphere of "Pashitik" penetrated our area. The life of a Jew,
walking alone at night in a street far >from center of town, was not
safe anymore; a worry that Kremenets' Jews did not have for many
generations.


JRI Poland #Poland RE: Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy) #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Information on the Glos Gminy Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm

As is stated on that site. "There is no additional meaningful
information about the particular marriage in the newspaper."

The information is not a document but a newspaper containing a list of
marriages with absolutely no additional information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Warszawa Research Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Baruch Bonen [mailto:ibb@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:02 PM
To: JRI-Poland
Subject: [jri-pl] Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy)


I found references to my parents marriage (BINSZTOK Izrael Mojzesz and
RUBIN Mindla) in Warsaw Marriages 1937-39 (Glos Gminy) Year 1 Vol 6
dated November/December-1937.

I would like to know how can I receive a copy of the document itself.

Can anyone help me on that ?

Thanks.

Baruch Bonen
Israel


First names of German Jewish children in West Prussia #germany

Joe Rich <joerich@...>
 

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me with a question about traditional patterns
of naming Jewish children. My family comes >from Krojanke, West Prussia,
and all the records I have indicate that, prior to my father's birth in
1901, all my (known) ancestors, without exception, were given fairly
traditional Jewish first names by their parents - Israel, Sara, Jacob,,
Hanne, Hirsch, Rebecca, etc. Then suddenly my paternal grandparents called
their seven children, born between 1901 and 1910, Martin, Ruth, Herbert,
Siegfried, Eva, Ilona, and Arthur.

Am I correct in my belief that most of these are not traditionally Jewish?
If so, does it reflect an idiosyncratic failure to conform on my
grandparents' part? Or is it part of a general trend among Jews in this
region at this time to switch to a more secular nomenclature? Or am I
making a false assumption in holding the view that in earlier times Jews
in West Prussian villages typically gave their children biblical names? Or
is it something else that I haven't tthought of?

The surnames, incidentally, were REICH, MARGONINSKI, KLEIN, ROSENTHAL,
BLUMBERG. Thank you in anticipation.

Joe Rich Melbourne Australia


German SIG #Germany First names of German Jewish children in West Prussia #germany

Joe Rich <joerich@...>
 

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me with a question about traditional patterns
of naming Jewish children. My family comes >from Krojanke, West Prussia,
and all the records I have indicate that, prior to my father's birth in
1901, all my (known) ancestors, without exception, were given fairly
traditional Jewish first names by their parents - Israel, Sara, Jacob,,
Hanne, Hirsch, Rebecca, etc. Then suddenly my paternal grandparents called
their seven children, born between 1901 and 1910, Martin, Ruth, Herbert,
Siegfried, Eva, Ilona, and Arthur.

Am I correct in my belief that most of these are not traditionally Jewish?
If so, does it reflect an idiosyncratic failure to conform on my
grandparents' part? Or is it part of a general trend among Jews in this
region at this time to switch to a more secular nomenclature? Or am I
making a false assumption in holding the view that in earlier times Jews
in West Prussian villages typically gave their children biblical names? Or
is it something else that I haven't tthought of?

The surnames, incidentally, were REICH, MARGONINSKI, KLEIN, ROSENTHAL,
BLUMBERG. Thank you in anticipation.

Joe Rich Melbourne Australia


Re: Intro - Researching MEYER - Gunzenhausen & BERNHEIMER-Ichenhausen #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/30/2003 LMeyer8090@aol.com writes:
MEYER - Gunzenhausen, Bavaria to New York(?), USA in about 1846
==write to the mayor of Gunzenhausen; they'll be pleased to give you what
they have, especially if you supply him with info about the descendants

KRAMER - Nurenberg to Philadelphia, USA in about 1880
search http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE

BERNHEIMER- Ichenhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA in about 1852
LOEB- Baden to Philadelphia, USA about 1865.
REIZENSTEIN - Mulhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA about 1854.

====contact: johann.fleischmann@bnv-bamberg.de
johann is a researcher and lives in Muhlhausen; he'll also be happy to
receive descendant info. Tell him I sent you. I see four REIZENSTEIN in
the index of his publication Mesusa, no. 1

Michael Bernet, New York


German SIG #Germany Re: Intro - Researching MEYER - Gunzenhausen & BERNHEIMER-Ichenhausen #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/30/2003 LMeyer8090@aol.com writes:
MEYER - Gunzenhausen, Bavaria to New York(?), USA in about 1846
==write to the mayor of Gunzenhausen; they'll be pleased to give you what
they have, especially if you supply him with info about the descendants

KRAMER - Nurenberg to Philadelphia, USA in about 1880
search http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE

BERNHEIMER- Ichenhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA in about 1852
LOEB- Baden to Philadelphia, USA about 1865.
REIZENSTEIN - Mulhausen, Bavaria to Philadelphia, USA about 1854.

====contact: johann.fleischmann@bnv-bamberg.de
johann is a researcher and lives in Muhlhausen; he'll also be happy to
receive descendant info. Tell him I sent you. I see four REIZENSTEIN in
the index of his publication Mesusa, no. 1

Michael Bernet, New York


INTRO-researching KLEISDORFF and DESSAUER from Ribe, Denmark #germany

Christiansen Majbrit <tirbjamnow@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 years. I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish
genealogy research. I live in Malmo, Sweden. My native language is
Danish and I also know English, Swedish, Norwigen. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet is
intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: The conection that my great
great great Grandparents have to Germany and about thiere Parents and so
on.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
KLEISDORFF -Bayern,Germany, moved to Ribe, Denmark in 1806
DESSAUER -Kolding, Denmark, moved to Ribe, Denmark and married KLEISDORFF.

Majbrit Christiansen tirbjamnow@hotmail.com Malmo, Sweden


German SIG #Germany INTRO-researching KLEISDORFF and DESSAUER from Ribe, Denmark #germany

Christiansen Majbrit <tirbjamnow@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 years. I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish
genealogy research. I live in Malmo, Sweden. My native language is
Danish and I also know English, Swedish, Norwigen. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet is
intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: The conection that my great
great great Grandparents have to Germany and about thiere Parents and so
on.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
KLEISDORFF -Bayern,Germany, moved to Ribe, Denmark in 1806
DESSAUER -Kolding, Denmark, moved to Ribe, Denmark and married KLEISDORFF.

Majbrit Christiansen tirbjamnow@hotmail.com Malmo, Sweden


INTRO researching COHEN Frankfurt a Main #germany

gaby laws <gabylaws@...>
 

Hello Gersig
I have just joined, I have been doing my genealogy for around 2yrs. I live
in London UK, native language English although I now understand enough
Dutch and French to read certificates.

I have got back to ggg grandfather having travelled through France, Belgium and Holland but am stuck at Germany.

My primary goal is to find information on Salomon Jacob COHEN who married
Mina SELICH (poss. SCHLICK). They had at least 2 children Lazarus (aka
Salomon) b1792 Frankfurt and Jacob Salomon born Mar 1797 Frankfurt a Main.
Jacob Salomon is my ggg grandfather.
Jacob married Rachel Izaak LEVEI born 1800(?) Frankfurt a Main. Marriage
date and place unknown. They had the following children Abraham b14/3/1822
Steindorf, Levie b2/5/1828 Germany, Mina bMay 1825 Neudamm, Zele b2/1/1830
Frankfurt, Aaltje b May 1834 Zutphen Holland, Martha b18/8/1836 Gorssel
Holland, Salomon b8/2/1841 Zutphen, Eva b25/5/1843 Zutphen, Betje
b18/6/1846 Zutphen.

The family lived in Zutphen then moved to Brussels around 1860.

I have contacted Frankfurt a Main archives who said they couldn't find
anything, the Frankfurt Museum kindly gave my details to the section on
Holocaust research - so can anyone suggest how I can find some information
on my COHEN's >from Frankfurt.

Grateful for all advice, thanks in advance

Gaby Laws gabylaws@hotmail.com London UK.


German SIG #Germany INTRO researching COHEN Frankfurt a Main #germany

gaby laws <gabylaws@...>
 

Hello Gersig
I have just joined, I have been doing my genealogy for around 2yrs. I live
in London UK, native language English although I now understand enough
Dutch and French to read certificates.

I have got back to ggg grandfather having travelled through France, Belgium and Holland but am stuck at Germany.

My primary goal is to find information on Salomon Jacob COHEN who married
Mina SELICH (poss. SCHLICK). They had at least 2 children Lazarus (aka
Salomon) b1792 Frankfurt and Jacob Salomon born Mar 1797 Frankfurt a Main.
Jacob Salomon is my ggg grandfather.
Jacob married Rachel Izaak LEVEI born 1800(?) Frankfurt a Main. Marriage
date and place unknown. They had the following children Abraham b14/3/1822
Steindorf, Levie b2/5/1828 Germany, Mina bMay 1825 Neudamm, Zele b2/1/1830
Frankfurt, Aaltje b May 1834 Zutphen Holland, Martha b18/8/1836 Gorssel
Holland, Salomon b8/2/1841 Zutphen, Eva b25/5/1843 Zutphen, Betje
b18/6/1846 Zutphen.

The family lived in Zutphen then moved to Brussels around 1860.

I have contacted Frankfurt a Main archives who said they couldn't find
anything, the Frankfurt Museum kindly gave my details to the section on
Holocaust research - so can anyone suggest how I can find some information
on my COHEN's >from Frankfurt.

Grateful for all advice, thanks in advance

Gaby Laws gabylaws@hotmail.com London UK.


Join our Moderating Team #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear Ukraine SIG Members,
There's an opening for someone who'd like to join our friendly moderating
team on our Digest. Moderating would require only an hour a day for 10 days
during each month, & the enjoyment of working behind the scene to facilitate
the questions & messages of fellow members.

Those who would like to join our moderating team are invited to contact me
(Florence Elman) at haflo@shaw.ca . I'll arrange for training & see that
"all is made clear"! ;-) It's very easy once you're into the swing, &
involves very little of your actual time.

I look forward to moderating with you ...
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@shaw.ca


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Join our Moderating Team #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear Ukraine SIG Members,
There's an opening for someone who'd like to join our friendly moderating
team on our Digest. Moderating would require only an hour a day for 10 days
during each month, & the enjoyment of working behind the scene to facilitate
the questions & messages of fellow members.

Those who would like to join our moderating team are invited to contact me
(Florence Elman) at haflo@shaw.ca . I'll arrange for training & see that
"all is made clear"! ;-) It's very easy once you're into the swing, &
involves very little of your actual time.

I look forward to moderating with you ...
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@shaw.ca


Lokhvitsa? #ukraine

klarynette? <klarynette@...>
 

My family Poliakoff came >from Lokhvitsa in Poltava. Where can I write to have more informations. How can I do to know more about this town and his history? Thank you. Good luck in your research
Karine Poliakoff
Reasearching :POLIAKOFF Mordouck,Mosche, Abraham,Jankel (Ukraine-Lokhvitsa in Poltava)
LOGOWSKI
GABRELSKO
GAPSCHA (Poland-Reudkowo)
MARMOR (Poland-Rudki)
ALTKORN
SATTLER (Poland-Zolynia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Lokhvitsa? #ukraine

klarynette? <klarynette@...>
 

My family Poliakoff came >from Lokhvitsa in Poltava. Where can I write to have more informations. How can I do to know more about this town and his history? Thank you. Good luck in your research
Karine Poliakoff
Reasearching :POLIAKOFF Mordouck,Mosche, Abraham,Jankel (Ukraine-Lokhvitsa in Poltava)
LOGOWSKI
GABRELSKO
GAPSCHA (Poland-Reudkowo)
MARMOR (Poland-Rudki)
ALTKORN
SATTLER (Poland-Zolynia)


CZACKIS - ROZENBERG #ukraine

pedro czackis <peckis@...>
 

Good day!
I am searching for information about the CZACKIS - ROZENBERG family in
Kremenets.
Three of their 9 children emigrated to Argentina in the early thirties.
Srul Icko CZACKIS, his wife Pesie ROZENBERG (both born around 1875), and 6
children remained and
disapeared during the nazi occupation.

Best wishes,
PEDRO CZACKIS
Buenos Aires
ARGENTINA
peckis@ciudad.com.ar


Re: [ukr] Location of Risinan, Russia #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 8/19/03, Michelle Leo (shell-leo@comcast.net) writes:

<< My grandmother Fanny (Feigl) KAPLAN came to US in 1907 with her mother

Sarah. They listed both their birthplaces and towns of residences in EIDB

as Risinan, Russia. Her father, Meyer KAPLAN listed his residence and

birthplace in EIDB in 1906 as Odessa, Russia. Meyer and Sarah were first

cousins. Would anyone have any idea of what shtetl Risinan could be?

>>

I think that the most likely possibility is "Rusyani" ("Rusen" or "Ruseni")
which is north west of Kishinev. Kishinev is not extremely far >from Odessa
where Ms. Leo's great grandfather had lived.

A more remote possibility is "Risanan" Ruzhany or Rozana. It is southeast of
Bialystok (Belarus) and south of Volkovisk. There is a yiskor book for this
town entitled "Ruzhinoi" published in 1957.

Still another possibility is "Ruzin," or "Rusin," which is southwest of Kiev
and southeast of Zhitomir.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.