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Re: Did Jewish immigrants evade the US Census?
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David Rothman <drothman1@...>
There are several reasons why people aren't in the
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census occasionally or repeatedly: 1. Family trauma (illness, death, arrest, etc.). 2. Moving, having a baby, or getting married. 3. Anarchist. 4. Enumerators missed the building (it happens!). 5. Everybody works, so nobody home to interview. 6. People too poor to have time or energy. 7. Opportunity cost of time (too busy getting rich). 8. Youngest children sometimes omitted (why?). People are often in the census but not in Soundex: 1. Interviewer misheard name (e.g. thick accent). 2. Indexer misread handwriting. You should find subject's address >from a directory. Then go to building in census and see if there was a report. And if you're doing NYC, you can check on the 1905, 1915, & 1925 census records.
My grandfather, Henry Morgan (nee Heinrich Morgenstern) is
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Did Jewish immigrants evade the US Census?
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David Rothman <drothman1@...>
There are several reasons why people aren't in the
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census occasionally or repeatedly: 1. Family trauma (illness, death, arrest, etc.). 2. Moving, having a baby, or getting married. 3. Anarchist. 4. Enumerators missed the building (it happens!). 5. Everybody works, so nobody home to interview. 6. People too poor to have time or energy. 7. Opportunity cost of time (too busy getting rich). 8. Youngest children sometimes omitted (why?). People are often in the census but not in Soundex: 1. Interviewer misheard name (e.g. thick accent). 2. Indexer misread handwriting. You should find subject's address >from a directory. Then go to building in census and see if there was a report. And if you're doing NYC, you can check on the 1905, 1915, & 1925 census records.
My grandfather, Henry Morgan (nee Heinrich Morgenstern) is
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Searching: W M SCHNEIDER in New York 1920
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NATALIE LAMB
I have traced in the Ellis Island database the immigration to America of my
father's older brother. He sailed >from Southampton to New York in December 1920, and stated that he was going to join his cousin W M SCHNEIDER at 34 Warren Street, New York. I have never heard of this person as being connected with our family, and wondered if any kind JewishGenner might know of him. Many thanks, and please reply privately to Natalie Lamb Berkshire, England Researching: NIEWOLSKI or NEVOLSKY or any variants, >from Sompolno, Kolo, Lowicz, Sochaczew, Poland, or anywhere; ROZENDORN or ROSENDORN >from Lowicz, Poland; NEVILLE >from anywhere in England
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: W M SCHNEIDER in New York 1920
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NATALIE LAMB
I have traced in the Ellis Island database the immigration to America of my
father's older brother. He sailed >from Southampton to New York in December 1920, and stated that he was going to join his cousin W M SCHNEIDER at 34 Warren Street, New York. I have never heard of this person as being connected with our family, and wondered if any kind JewishGenner might know of him. Many thanks, and please reply privately to Natalie Lamb Berkshire, England Researching: NIEWOLSKI or NEVOLSKY or any variants, >from Sompolno, Kolo, Lowicz, Sochaczew, Poland, or anywhere; ROZENDORN or ROSENDORN >from Lowicz, Poland; NEVILLE >from anywhere in England
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some LDS films available in Israel
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Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
Dear fellow genners,
I have always been envious of those in the states that could order the LDS microfische. Two weeks ago I tried the website for the Diaspora Museum, which has a partial collection of LDS microfische. And yesterday I received the *copies* of the specific Akt by registered mail! Now you can be envious of us. We can get some of them by mail! The way to do is, 1. Find the microfische you need in the JewishGen Database. Write down the number of microfische and the Akt., name and year. Check the form first for the information you need. 2. Go to the Diaspora Museum website and check if they have the microfische you are interested in. You have to look under the name of the town. http://www.bh.org.il/ I am listing the general site, cause their server seems to be down at the moment. Look under genealogy. 3. If they have it, there is an outline order form and you can pay by credit card. If you want to go through the whole microfische by yourself, other arrangements can be made. Shalom and Next Year in Jerusalem! The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy July 11-16, 2004 www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004 Rose Feldman rosef@post.tau.ac.il EPSTEIN, BOYARSKY Mscibow & Ruzhany GITNER, REZNIK, LUKIN Litin & Kalinovka TREPMAN, FELDMAN Warsaw
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen some LDS films available in Israel
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Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
Dear fellow genners,
I have always been envious of those in the states that could order the LDS microfische. Two weeks ago I tried the website for the Diaspora Museum, which has a partial collection of LDS microfische. And yesterday I received the *copies* of the specific Akt by registered mail! Now you can be envious of us. We can get some of them by mail! The way to do is, 1. Find the microfische you need in the JewishGen Database. Write down the number of microfische and the Akt., name and year. Check the form first for the information you need. 2. Go to the Diaspora Museum website and check if they have the microfische you are interested in. You have to look under the name of the town. http://www.bh.org.il/ I am listing the general site, cause their server seems to be down at the moment. Look under genealogy. 3. If they have it, there is an outline order form and you can pay by credit card. If you want to go through the whole microfische by yourself, other arrangements can be made. Shalom and Next Year in Jerusalem! The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy July 11-16, 2004 www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004 Rose Feldman rosef@post.tau.ac.il EPSTEIN, BOYARSKY Mscibow & Ruzhany GITNER, REZNIK, LUKIN Litin & Kalinovka TREPMAN, FELDMAN Warsaw
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Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish?
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Nathan Reiss <nreiss@...>
Just one addition to the responses on this subject:...
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Germany actually had an agency whose function it was to dig up and process the information about who was Jewish, the "Reichsippenamt", [Federal Ancestry Administration]. One of the activities carried out under this administration's direction was the collection of copies of Jewish vital records >from the local communities. This was the before the days of photocopiers, and local officials were required to manually transcribe these records and submit them. In some cases, these transcribed listings constitute the only surviving copies of communities' Jewish records. Nathan Reiss Highland Park, NJ nreiss@aesop.rutgers.edu
Subject: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish?
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Nathan Reiss <nreiss@...>
Just one addition to the responses on this subject:...
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Germany actually had an agency whose function it was to dig up and process the information about who was Jewish, the "Reichsippenamt", [Federal Ancestry Administration]. One of the activities carried out under this administration's direction was the collection of copies of Jewish vital records >from the local communities. This was the before the days of photocopiers, and local officials were required to manually transcribe these records and submit them. In some cases, these transcribed listings constitute the only surviving copies of communities' Jewish records. Nathan Reiss Highland Park, NJ nreiss@aesop.rutgers.edu
Subject: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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Re: Searching AZERSKY/PINTEL from Lithuania
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Finkel**** <finkeland@...>
Anyone know anything about Clara, Robert, Julius, Hymie and Cohntoo who
were all children of Yaacov and Goldie AZERSKY of Meretz Lithuania? They came to Paris >from Lithuania around 1915 and stayed with a cousin name Sam PINTEL. They worked in garment factories. They stayed about 7 years and then came to NY. They were also somehow related to Chaim and Goidie LANDSBERG in Tel Aviv. They also had cousins in New York with the last name ROMANOFF as Goldie AZERSKY'S maiden name was ROMANOFF. Thanks for your help - Karen in NY design@finkeland.com MODERATOR: Please capitalize LAST NAME only
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French SIG #France Re: Searching AZERSKY/PINTEL from Lithuania
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Finkel**** <finkeland@...>
Anyone know anything about Clara, Robert, Julius, Hymie and Cohntoo who
were all children of Yaacov and Goldie AZERSKY of Meretz Lithuania? They came to Paris >from Lithuania around 1915 and stayed with a cousin name Sam PINTEL. They worked in garment factories. They stayed about 7 years and then came to NY. They were also somehow related to Chaim and Goidie LANDSBERG in Tel Aviv. They also had cousins in New York with the last name ROMANOFF as Goldie AZERSKY'S maiden name was ROMANOFF. Thanks for your help - Karen in NY design@finkeland.com MODERATOR: Please capitalize LAST NAME only
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Searching MENDELSON - Switzerland/New Orleans/St. Louis/Chicago
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SANDI ROOT
I search Benjamin MENDELSON >from Switzerland. Unfortunately, no
town name or region ever appear in any of the documents I hold on my great-grandfather. My hope is that descendants of the MENDELSON family still live in Switzerland, or I can connect with others searching that name in that region of Europe. The family data follows: Benjamin MENDELSON, b.1844, Switzerland, cigar maker. Lena (SUWALKER/SUWALSKI/*MENDELSON)- his wife - b. ca. 1846, Sweden or Suwalki, Poland. Migrated to U.S. 1855-1861. Lived in New Orleans, LA, St. Louis, MO, and permanently settled in Chicago, IL. Had 8 daughters, all born in the U.S. * Lena's family evidently changed their name from SUWALKER/SUWALSKI to MENDELSON, probably upon arrival to or after living in the U.S. I am assuming it is pure coincidence she ended up marrying someone also named MENDELSON, and I do not believe they were cousins. Thank you for this helpful search opportunity. Sandi Root Bulverde (San Antonio), Texas roadrunr2@usa.net
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French SIG #France Searching MENDELSON - Switzerland/New Orleans/St. Louis/Chicago
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SANDI ROOT
I search Benjamin MENDELSON >from Switzerland. Unfortunately, no
town name or region ever appear in any of the documents I hold on my great-grandfather. My hope is that descendants of the MENDELSON family still live in Switzerland, or I can connect with others searching that name in that region of Europe. The family data follows: Benjamin MENDELSON, b.1844, Switzerland, cigar maker. Lena (SUWALKER/SUWALSKI/*MENDELSON)- his wife - b. ca. 1846, Sweden or Suwalki, Poland. Migrated to U.S. 1855-1861. Lived in New Orleans, LA, St. Louis, MO, and permanently settled in Chicago, IL. Had 8 daughters, all born in the U.S. * Lena's family evidently changed their name from SUWALKER/SUWALSKI to MENDELSON, probably upon arrival to or after living in the U.S. I am assuming it is pure coincidence she ended up marrying someone also named MENDELSON, and I do not believe they were cousins. Thank you for this helpful search opportunity. Sandi Root Bulverde (San Antonio), Texas roadrunr2@usa.net
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Does Anyone Have Boston, Mass., Girls Latin School, Class Of 1910 Yearbook?
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richard may
Dear community,
Does any kind person have or have access to yearbooks or classbooks for Girls Latin School,the class of 1910,in the Boston Public Schools,Boston,Massachusetts? My grandfather's sister,Elinor B. MAY,class of 1910,graduated >from Girls Latin School in Boston,Mass. I am attempting to obtain a copy of her yearbook photograph. Please respond privately to: < ferdlilac@yahoo.com > Thank you very much for your help! Richard May < ferdlilac@yahoo.com > Buffalo,New York, U.S.A.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Does Anyone Have Boston, Mass., Girls Latin School, Class Of 1910 Yearbook?
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richard may
Dear community,
Does any kind person have or have access to yearbooks or classbooks for Girls Latin School,the class of 1910,in the Boston Public Schools,Boston,Massachusetts? My grandfather's sister,Elinor B. MAY,class of 1910,graduated >from Girls Latin School in Boston,Mass. I am attempting to obtain a copy of her yearbook photograph. Please respond privately to: < ferdlilac@yahoo.com > Thank you very much for your help! Richard May < ferdlilac@yahoo.com > Buffalo,New York, U.S.A.
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Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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Simone Millsom <simone@...>
I always believed that the Nazi's researched family histories
And how did they do it? Personally am not blaming IBM Claims were made and there was a lawsuit also against IBM. http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010216/1aibm.shtml Like many I am trying to understand how the Nazi's new who were the Jews, as many families did not even know of a Jewish background until they were arrested. Half of my family were killed during the Holocaust for being Jews, All 4 of my great grand parents and all of my great great parents among others in the family. So naturally I am interested in finding out how this all happened. Sorry if I offended you in anyway. Simone Millsom Australia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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Simone Millsom <simone@...>
I always believed that the Nazi's researched family histories
And how did they do it? Personally am not blaming IBM Claims were made and there was a lawsuit also against IBM. http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010216/1aibm.shtml Like many I am trying to understand how the Nazi's new who were the Jews, as many families did not even know of a Jewish background until they were arrested. Half of my family were killed during the Holocaust for being Jews, All 4 of my great grand parents and all of my great great parents among others in the family. So naturally I am interested in finding out how this all happened. Sorry if I offended you in anyway. Simone Millsom Australia
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Genealogy for kids
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Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
Dear Genners,
Every year I do an "It's All Relative" column on genealogy and kids. This year, it will be in early October. I'm working on a column devoted to genealogy for kids, centered on ideas to make this more fun, including books and publications. If you teach or have taught genealogy to young people (through high school) in your community, or your own kids have had interesting projects, or you present your own research to others in an unusual way, please let me know. The timing is also relevant because students in Israel begin family history projects in the fall. Please reply privately, and make sure you send your full name and location as well as the setting for your experiences (regular school, a Jewish day school, an afternoon Hebrew school, youth group, etc.). I would like to be able to acknowledge Genners in different geographical locations around the world. With best wishes to all, Schelly Talalay Dardashti Tel Aviv dardasht@barak-online.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy for kids
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Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
Dear Genners,
Every year I do an "It's All Relative" column on genealogy and kids. This year, it will be in early October. I'm working on a column devoted to genealogy for kids, centered on ideas to make this more fun, including books and publications. If you teach or have taught genealogy to young people (through high school) in your community, or your own kids have had interesting projects, or you present your own research to others in an unusual way, please let me know. The timing is also relevant because students in Israel begin family history projects in the fall. Please reply privately, and make sure you send your full name and location as well as the setting for your experiences (regular school, a Jewish day school, an afternoon Hebrew school, youth group, etc.). I would like to be able to acknowledge Genners in different geographical locations around the world. With best wishes to all, Schelly Talalay Dardashti Tel Aviv dardasht@barak-online.net
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Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
Since no one has mentioned it yet, Jews identified themselves as Jews
to remain with their loved ones. To net those Jews who had ran away, and those who tried to hide, the Nazis set up a regime of terror. Rewards were offered for denouncing Jews. Neighbor betrayed neighbor. In Poland, Jews who had grown speaking Yiddish tended to speak Polish with a distinctive accent that betrayed their origin as soon as they opened their mouths. Strangers were automatically suspected of being Jews and denounced to the gendarmes. When challenged, men had to drop their pants and prove they were not Jews. Non-Jews caught harboring or protecting a Jew were subject to severe punishment, which varied throughout the occupied territories. In Poland, the punishment was summary execution of all present family members and destruction of their property by fire. Jews caught in hiding were tortured to reveal whether there were other Jews with them, who had protected them, who had provided them with any food, and who knew they were there. Jake Goldstein Boston, Massachusetts
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish
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Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
Since no one has mentioned it yet, Jews identified themselves as Jews
to remain with their loved ones. To net those Jews who had ran away, and those who tried to hide, the Nazis set up a regime of terror. Rewards were offered for denouncing Jews. Neighbor betrayed neighbor. In Poland, Jews who had grown speaking Yiddish tended to speak Polish with a distinctive accent that betrayed their origin as soon as they opened their mouths. Strangers were automatically suspected of being Jews and denounced to the gendarmes. When challenged, men had to drop their pants and prove they were not Jews. Non-Jews caught harboring or protecting a Jew were subject to severe punishment, which varied throughout the occupied territories. In Poland, the punishment was summary execution of all present family members and destruction of their property by fire. Jews caught in hiding were tortured to reveal whether there were other Jews with them, who had protected them, who had provided them with any food, and who knew they were there. Jake Goldstein Boston, Massachusetts
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