Date   

Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Simone Millsom <simone@...>
 

I always believed that the Nazi's researched family histories
And how did they do it? Personally am not blaming IBM
Claims were made and there was a lawsuit also against IBM.
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010216/1aibm.shtml

Like many I am trying to understand how the Nazi's new who were the Jews,
as many families did not even know of a Jewish background until they were
arrested.
Half of my family were killed during the Holocaust for being Jews, All 4 of
my great grand parents and all of my great great parents among others in
the family.
So naturally I am interested in finding out how this all happened.

Sorry if I offended you in anyway.

Simone Millsom
Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Simone Millsom <simone@...>
 

I always believed that the Nazi's researched family histories
And how did they do it? Personally am not blaming IBM
Claims were made and there was a lawsuit also against IBM.
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010216/1aibm.shtml

Like many I am trying to understand how the Nazi's new who were the Jews,
as many families did not even know of a Jewish background until they were
arrested.
Half of my family were killed during the Holocaust for being Jews, All 4 of
my great grand parents and all of my great great parents among others in
the family.
So naturally I am interested in finding out how this all happened.

Sorry if I offended you in anyway.

Simone Millsom
Australia


Genealogy for kids #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Every year I do an "It's All Relative" column on genealogy and kids. This
year, it will be in early October.
I'm working on a column devoted to genealogy for kids, centered on ideas to
make this more fun, including books and publications.

If you teach or have taught genealogy to young people (through high school)
in your community, or your own kids have had interesting projects, or you
present your own research to others in an unusual way, please let me know.
The timing is also relevant because students in Israel begin family history
projects in the fall.

Please reply privately, and make sure you send your full name and location
as well as the setting for your experiences (regular school, a Jewish day
school, an afternoon Hebrew school, youth group, etc.). I would like to be
able to acknowledge Genners in different geographical locations around the
world.

With best wishes to all,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy for kids #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Every year I do an "It's All Relative" column on genealogy and kids. This
year, it will be in early October.
I'm working on a column devoted to genealogy for kids, centered on ideas to
make this more fun, including books and publications.

If you teach or have taught genealogy to young people (through high school)
in your community, or your own kids have had interesting projects, or you
present your own research to others in an unusual way, please let me know.
The timing is also relevant because students in Israel begin family history
projects in the fall.

Please reply privately, and make sure you send your full name and location
as well as the setting for your experiences (regular school, a Jewish day
school, an afternoon Hebrew school, youth group, etc.). I would like to be
able to acknowledge Genners in different geographical locations around the
world.

With best wishes to all,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net


Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

Since no one has mentioned it yet, Jews identified themselves as Jews
to remain with their loved ones.

To net those Jews who had ran away, and those who tried to hide, the
Nazis set up a regime of terror. Rewards were offered for denouncing
Jews. Neighbor betrayed neighbor. In Poland, Jews who had grown
speaking Yiddish tended to speak Polish with a distinctive accent
that betrayed their origin as soon as they opened their mouths.
Strangers were automatically suspected of being Jews and denounced
to the gendarmes. When challenged, men had to drop their pants and
prove they were not Jews.

Non-Jews caught harboring or protecting a Jew were subject to severe
punishment, which varied throughout the occupied territories. In
Poland, the punishment was summary execution of all present family
members and destruction of their property by fire. Jews caught in
hiding were tortured to reveal whether there were other Jews with them,
who had protected them, who had provided them with any food, and who
knew they were there.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Massachusetts


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

Since no one has mentioned it yet, Jews identified themselves as Jews
to remain with their loved ones.

To net those Jews who had ran away, and those who tried to hide, the
Nazis set up a regime of terror. Rewards were offered for denouncing
Jews. Neighbor betrayed neighbor. In Poland, Jews who had grown
speaking Yiddish tended to speak Polish with a distinctive accent
that betrayed their origin as soon as they opened their mouths.
Strangers were automatically suspected of being Jews and denounced
to the gendarmes. When challenged, men had to drop their pants and
prove they were not Jews.

Non-Jews caught harboring or protecting a Jew were subject to severe
punishment, which varied throughout the occupied territories. In
Poland, the punishment was summary execution of all present family
members and destruction of their property by fire. Jews caught in
hiding were tortured to reveal whether there were other Jews with them,
who had protected them, who had provided them with any food, and who
knew they were there.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Massachusetts


Reading, Pa. #general

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

I would like to get two tombstone pictures. The cemetery is called "Green
Tree". It is located in or near Reading, Pa.
If you could help, please contact me privately, so I can give you the
names, etc.

Thank you.

Steve Pickholtz
Tabernacle, NJ
searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)
nj55turtle@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reading, Pa. #general

NJ55TURTLE@...
 

I would like to get two tombstone pictures. The cemetery is called "Green
Tree". It is located in or near Reading, Pa.
If you could help, please contact me privately, so I can give you the
names, etc.

Thank you.

Steve Pickholtz
Tabernacle, NJ
searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)
nj55turtle@aol.com


Cousin marriage and risk of pediatric kidney disease #general

MBernet@...
 

According to an article published in the journal Pediatrics, and cited by
the Jerusalem Post, in the decade >from 1990-2000, 66 Arab Israeli children
with end-stage kidney disease received kidneys >from cadavers, while 64
Jewish children received such transplants. (The Jewish population of
Israel is 5 times as great as the Arab population.)

The study revealed that Arab Israeli children were on average far more
likely to need a kidney transplant than their Jewish counterparts, due to
the Arab phenomenon of consanguinity (inbreeding), in which congenital
diseases occur because first cousins marry.

It thus appears that consanguinity among Jews is relatively less common
than among other peoples.

The report adds that the waiting time for a kidney, and the long-term
outcome of surgery, were identical for both Jewish and Arab children. In
the United States and other countries, studies have shown, minority groups
had significantly lower rates of kidney transplantation compared to the
population's majority.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cousin marriage and risk of pediatric kidney disease #general

MBernet@...
 

According to an article published in the journal Pediatrics, and cited by
the Jerusalem Post, in the decade >from 1990-2000, 66 Arab Israeli children
with end-stage kidney disease received kidneys >from cadavers, while 64
Jewish children received such transplants. (The Jewish population of
Israel is 5 times as great as the Arab population.)

The study revealed that Arab Israeli children were on average far more
likely to need a kidney transplant than their Jewish counterparts, due to
the Arab phenomenon of consanguinity (inbreeding), in which congenital
diseases occur because first cousins marry.

It thus appears that consanguinity among Jews is relatively less common
than among other peoples.

The report adds that the waiting time for a kidney, and the long-term
outcome of surgery, were identical for both Jewish and Arab children. In
the United States and other countries, studies have shown, minority groups
had significantly lower rates of kidney transplantation compared to the
population's majority.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: "Wolin o/ Volin" (belarus digest: August 28, 2003) #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 8/29/03 Edward Meltzer (edm@wornall.com) writes:

<< In my research my grandmother writes that she was born in Volin, Russia,

sometimes written as Wolin. She called it the Republic of Poland and or the

present Government of Russia. Could someone please enlighten me on where

exactly this city is? >>

This question has arisen repeatedly by Jewishgenners and been answered as
many times, but often Jewishgenners old and new forget or neglect to first look
for the answers to their questions by first searching through Jewishgen's
Discussion Group Archives, Jewishgen'smessage archives of the various SIGs, or
even try finding whatever they are looking for by doing a "google" search at
www.google.com.


Wolin or Volin refers to the Volhynia or Volyn region in northwest Ukraine.
Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, the region was an SSR. The region had
been disputed by Poland and Lithuania for centuries before that. After the
partition of Poland in the eighteenth century, it came under control of of the
Russian government until 1925. Its western part, including Wolin province,
reverted to Poland in 1921, and was ceded to the USSR in 1945. Included in
Volhynia were the oblasts of Wolin, Rovno and Zhitomir.


Mr. Meltzer should try to find his grandmother's ship manifest on which the
name of her native town may be listed. For details about searching online for
the manifest, Mr. Meltzer should have a look at Jewishgen's "infofile" on ship
manifests and the Discussion Group Archives for tips about using the online
Ellis Island search engine. It is possible that his grandmother entered the US
through other ports, if she did emigrate to the US, but Mr. Meltzer can also
find on line and through Jewishgen information about ship manifests >from
Galveston, Canada, etc..

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: Pages of Testimony #belarus

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

You can ask a copy for a modest payment at Yad Vashem Hall of Names,
email: names.search@yadvashem.org.il
As far as I know Yad Vashem intends to have the database accessible to
the world through the Internet sometimes in 2004.

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Pages of Testimony
From: "David Komessar" <osubuckeye@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

I was wondering if there is a site that catalogs these such pages... or do
you have to travel to Yad Vashem?

David Komessar

Researching: Komessar, Komisar, Komissarczik
Kopatevichi Mozyr Minsk




-


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: "Wolin o/ Volin" (belarus digest: August 28, 2003) #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 8/29/03 Edward Meltzer (edm@wornall.com) writes:

<< In my research my grandmother writes that she was born in Volin, Russia,

sometimes written as Wolin. She called it the Republic of Poland and or the

present Government of Russia. Could someone please enlighten me on where

exactly this city is? >>

This question has arisen repeatedly by Jewishgenners and been answered as
many times, but often Jewishgenners old and new forget or neglect to first look
for the answers to their questions by first searching through Jewishgen's
Discussion Group Archives, Jewishgen'smessage archives of the various SIGs, or
even try finding whatever they are looking for by doing a "google" search at
www.google.com.


Wolin or Volin refers to the Volhynia or Volyn region in northwest Ukraine.
Before the collapse of the Soviet Union, the region was an SSR. The region had
been disputed by Poland and Lithuania for centuries before that. After the
partition of Poland in the eighteenth century, it came under control of of the
Russian government until 1925. Its western part, including Wolin province,
reverted to Poland in 1921, and was ceded to the USSR in 1945. Included in
Volhynia were the oblasts of Wolin, Rovno and Zhitomir.


Mr. Meltzer should try to find his grandmother's ship manifest on which the
name of her native town may be listed. For details about searching online for
the manifest, Mr. Meltzer should have a look at Jewishgen's "infofile" on ship
manifests and the Discussion Group Archives for tips about using the online
Ellis Island search engine. It is possible that his grandmother entered the US
through other ports, if she did emigrate to the US, but Mr. Meltzer can also
find on line and through Jewishgen information about ship manifests >from
Galveston, Canada, etc..

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Pages of Testimony #belarus

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

You can ask a copy for a modest payment at Yad Vashem Hall of Names,
email: names.search@yadvashem.org.il
As far as I know Yad Vashem intends to have the database accessible to
the world through the Internet sometimes in 2004.

Shalom,

Ada Holtzman

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Pages of Testimony
From: "David Komessar" <osubuckeye@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

I was wondering if there is a site that catalogs these such pages... or do
you have to travel to Yad Vashem?

David Komessar

Researching: Komessar, Komisar, Komissarczik
Kopatevichi Mozyr Minsk




-


DOKSHITZ YIZKOR BOOK #belarus

Aaron Ginsburg <readers@...>
 

Subject: DOKSHITZ YIZKOR BOOK

I am trying to obtain a copy of the following Yizkor book:
Dokshitz-Parafianow
The story of two Jewish communities Written in Hebrew and Yiddish
Editor: David Stockfish (1970) . please contact me privately. Thank you

Aaron Ginsburg
Sharon, Massachusetts
readers@verizon.net
researching GINSBURG, KUSINITZ,SHAPIRO >from Dokshitz; POKROSS >from
Gorodishche (Cherkassy District) Ukraine


Re: belarus digest: August 28, 2003 #belarus

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

On online beta-test version of the Pages of Testimony was demonstrated by
Yad Vashem at the 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy. It is
expected to be avilable to the public some time in the next 12 months.

Gary Mokotoff


Subject: Pages of Testimony
From: "David Komessar" <osubuckeye@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

I was wondering if there is a site that catalogs these such pages... or do
you have to travel to Yad Vashem?

David Komessar


Belarus SIG #Belarus DOKSHITZ YIZKOR BOOK #belarus

Aaron Ginsburg <readers@...>
 

Subject: DOKSHITZ YIZKOR BOOK

I am trying to obtain a copy of the following Yizkor book:
Dokshitz-Parafianow
The story of two Jewish communities Written in Hebrew and Yiddish
Editor: David Stockfish (1970) . please contact me privately. Thank you

Aaron Ginsburg
Sharon, Massachusetts
readers@verizon.net
researching GINSBURG, KUSINITZ,SHAPIRO >from Dokshitz; POKROSS >from
Gorodishche (Cherkassy District) Ukraine


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: belarus digest: August 28, 2003 #belarus

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

On online beta-test version of the Pages of Testimony was demonstrated by
Yad Vashem at the 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy. It is
expected to be avilable to the public some time in the next 12 months.

Gary Mokotoff


Subject: Pages of Testimony
From: "David Komessar" <osubuckeye@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

I was wondering if there is a site that catalogs these such pages... or do
you have to travel to Yad Vashem?

David Komessar


Re: "Wolin o/ Volin" (belarus digest: August 28, 2003) #belarus

Eddie Meltzer <edm@...>
 

Dear Naomi:

Thank you kindly for your post and response to my question. I actually do
have my grandmothers manifest >from Ellis Island. Unfortunately, it shows
her last place of residence being London. Are there similar research
resources for London similar to EllisIsland.org to your knowledge?

Regards,
Eddie Meltzer


Thanks old phone books #general

suesmithe1 <suesmithe1@...>
 

Thanks for all you answers for my request about telephone number being
available on the internet. It seems as if the 42nd Street Library in Manhattan
is the place to go.


Regards,
Sue Smithe