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Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

In France, as soon as 1940 up to 1942, special orders promulgated by
the French Marechal PETAIN, known as first to ninth "ordonnance",
concerned all sort of prohibitions and humiliations for the Jews.
Two of them were important and explain (between others) how the
Nazis did know who was Jewish.

The 8th ordonnance, dated 29 May 1942, invented the Yellow Star,
which each Jew aged more than six years had to buy (with textile
coupons) and to sew on his (her) clothes.

There were laws too : a French law dated 2 June 1941 explained
who was supposed to be a Jew : the one who had at least three
grand-parents of Jewish "race" was a Jew. Following that law,
another French law dated 11 December 1942 asked every Jew to
go to the police station and declare he was a Jew. Then, a
special seal with a red JEW written in big letters was appended
on his identity card.

Of course, as written here previously, there was also the
denunciations ("My neighbour" is a Jewish, or even "my brother
in law" is Jewish), which were rewarded with money.

When a man supposed to be Jewish was arrested, even in the
middle in the street (as it was the fact in september 1943
in the South of France), the Germand asked him to take
his trousers off.

That's how the Nazis knew who was Jewish.

When someone wanted to contest, he (she) had to bring proofs
he was not a Jew (for example, with a false christening
certificate).

You can find more information about the special French and German
antijewish laws during WWII in the book written by Serge
Klarsfeld, entitled "Les Juifs sous l'Occupation -
Recueil des textes officiels francais et allemands 1940/1944",
published in 1982 by the Association "Les Fils et Filles des Deports
Juifs de France" (Serge Klarsfeld is the President). You'll
be very surprised about all the humiliations and
interdictions of all sorts which were imposed on the
Jews to make their life as difficult as possible.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: how did the Nazis know who was Jewish #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

In France, as soon as 1940 up to 1942, special orders promulgated by
the French Marechal PETAIN, known as first to ninth "ordonnance",
concerned all sort of prohibitions and humiliations for the Jews.
Two of them were important and explain (between others) how the
Nazis did know who was Jewish.

The 8th ordonnance, dated 29 May 1942, invented the Yellow Star,
which each Jew aged more than six years had to buy (with textile
coupons) and to sew on his (her) clothes.

There were laws too : a French law dated 2 June 1941 explained
who was supposed to be a Jew : the one who had at least three
grand-parents of Jewish "race" was a Jew. Following that law,
another French law dated 11 December 1942 asked every Jew to
go to the police station and declare he was a Jew. Then, a
special seal with a red JEW written in big letters was appended
on his identity card.

Of course, as written here previously, there was also the
denunciations ("My neighbour" is a Jewish, or even "my brother
in law" is Jewish), which were rewarded with money.

When a man supposed to be Jewish was arrested, even in the
middle in the street (as it was the fact in september 1943
in the South of France), the Germand asked him to take
his trousers off.

That's how the Nazis knew who was Jewish.

When someone wanted to contest, he (she) had to bring proofs
he was not a Jew (for example, with a false christening
certificate).

You can find more information about the special French and German
antijewish laws during WWII in the book written by Serge
Klarsfeld, entitled "Les Juifs sous l'Occupation -
Recueil des textes officiels francais et allemands 1940/1944",
published in 1982 by the Association "Les Fils et Filles des Deports
Juifs de France" (Serge Klarsfeld is the President). You'll
be very surprised about all the humiliations and
interdictions of all sorts which were imposed on the
Jews to make their life as difficult as possible.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: September 8, 2003
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Topic:A Review of the 23rd Annual IAJGS
Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Speakers: JGSGP Members - Felica Mode Alexander,
Sandy Kazman, Kaye Paletz, Alan Remstein,
and Joan Rosen
********
JGSGP members who attended the IAJGS Conference in
Washington, DC this summer will provide information and
feedback. The focus will be on the various topics and
presentations done at the conference as well as personal
experiences regarding researching at the main D.C. facilities -
The Library of Congress, Archives I, Archives II and the US
Holocaust Museum.

Time will be left for questions >from the audience.
******
For New Members
Come to the meeting 30 minutes early and hear more experienced
member of our group give advice and counsel on issues that
perplex you.
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information
on local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and
much more) please visit the JGSGP website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting


******
German Special Interest Group Meeting
Date/Time: Sunday, September 26, 2003 at 3:00 PM
Place: home of Phyllis and Howard Sichel
Speaker: Liesl Loeb
Topic: Nazi Era Emigration. The speaker was aboard the
ship St. Louis when it was turned back >from Cuba to Germany.

For more info. contact Monica Leonards m_leonards@hotmail.com

*****
Russian Interest Group
Date/Time: Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 1:30 PM
Place: Klein Branch JCC
10100 Jamison Rd
Philadelphia, PA
Topic: The new reference book, "In Their Words - Vol. II:Russian"
For more info. contact David Brill dbrill@snip.net

******
South Jersey JGSGP Affiliate Meeting

Date/Time: Fall, 2003
Place: Congregation Beth Tikvah
115 Evesboro-Medford Rd.
Marlton, NJ
Topic: to be announced
For more info contact Joel Spector jlspector@aol.com
******

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: September 8, 2003
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
********
Topic:A Review of the 23rd Annual IAJGS
Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Speakers: JGSGP Members - Felica Mode Alexander,
Sandy Kazman, Kaye Paletz, Alan Remstein,
and Joan Rosen
********
JGSGP members who attended the IAJGS Conference in
Washington, DC this summer will provide information and
feedback. The focus will be on the various topics and
presentations done at the conference as well as personal
experiences regarding researching at the main D.C. facilities -
The Library of Congress, Archives I, Archives II and the US
Holocaust Museum.

Time will be left for questions >from the audience.
******
For New Members
Come to the meeting 30 minutes early and hear more experienced
member of our group give advice and counsel on issues that
perplex you.
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information
on local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and
much more) please visit the JGSGP website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting


******
German Special Interest Group Meeting
Date/Time: Sunday, September 26, 2003 at 3:00 PM
Place: home of Phyllis and Howard Sichel
Speaker: Liesl Loeb
Topic: Nazi Era Emigration. The speaker was aboard the
ship St. Louis when it was turned back >from Cuba to Germany.

For more info. contact Monica Leonards m_leonards@hotmail.com

*****
Russian Interest Group
Date/Time: Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 1:30 PM
Place: Klein Branch JCC
10100 Jamison Rd
Philadelphia, PA
Topic: The new reference book, "In Their Words - Vol. II:Russian"
For more info. contact David Brill dbrill@snip.net

******
South Jersey JGSGP Affiliate Meeting

Date/Time: Fall, 2003
Place: Congregation Beth Tikvah
115 Evesboro-Medford Rd.
Marlton, NJ
Topic: to be announced
For more info contact Joel Spector jlspector@aol.com
******

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
JGLois@aol.com


Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks update #poland

Andrew Blumberg <andrew.blumberg@...>
 

Hello,

The Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks site has been updated with new materials.

Two more letters to President Hoover >from the children of Bielsk have
been added to the site. One is >from the children of Jewish Orphanage Number 4 in Bielsk. The other is >from the children of Kitchen no. 4, Siemiatycze, province Bielsk, Grodno Land. Each letter consists of hand-drawn artwork with a note to the President and a signature page.

Thanks again to Tomy Wisniewski for translating the letters and to Mindy Gross for translating the Yiddish signatures of the children. The letters were provided through the courtesy of the Herbert Hoover Subject Collection of the Hoover Institution Archives.

Also added is the complete 1928 40th Anniversary Banquet Souvenir
Journal of the Bielsker Bruderlicher Unterstitzungs Verein, which consists of 76 pages containing membership, officers and directors lists, photos of the organizers, ex-presidents, officers, and committee members, a history of the verein, poetry, advertisements >from members, memorials, and a few pages thatare either in Yiddish or Hebrew. Thanks to Josh Watsky, whose
great-grandfather was a founding member of the BBUV, for help in making
these materials available.

You can visit the Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks site at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bielsk_Podlaski/

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg

Researching: BLUMBERG >from Bielsk Podlaski and Bransk


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks update #poland

Andrew Blumberg <andrew.blumberg@...>
 

Hello,

The Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks site has been updated with new materials.

Two more letters to President Hoover >from the children of Bielsk have
been added to the site. One is >from the children of Jewish Orphanage Number 4 in Bielsk. The other is >from the children of Kitchen no. 4, Siemiatycze, province Bielsk, Grodno Land. Each letter consists of hand-drawn artwork with a note to the President and a signature page.

Thanks again to Tomy Wisniewski for translating the letters and to Mindy Gross for translating the Yiddish signatures of the children. The letters were provided through the courtesy of the Herbert Hoover Subject Collection of the Hoover Institution Archives.

Also added is the complete 1928 40th Anniversary Banquet Souvenir
Journal of the Bielsker Bruderlicher Unterstitzungs Verein, which consists of 76 pages containing membership, officers and directors lists, photos of the organizers, ex-presidents, officers, and committee members, a history of the verein, poetry, advertisements >from members, memorials, and a few pages thatare either in Yiddish or Hebrew. Thanks to Josh Watsky, whose
great-grandfather was a founding member of the BBUV, for help in making
these materials available.

You can visit the Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks site at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bielsk_Podlaski/

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg

Researching: BLUMBERG >from Bielsk Podlaski and Bransk


A business in Poland #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am interested in a business in Poland called:

GERAT - und MASCHINENBAU M.A.G.- ROZA Sp. z o.o. (there is an umlaut over the A in GERAT)

or simply:

M.A.G. ROZA

or

MAG ROZA

I believe that this business might be associated with a cousin that I have
been searching for. (And his mother, also my cousin, was named Roza!)

I have found a few tidbits of information on the web regarding this
company:

http://www.dialcom.com.pl/mag-roza/fc0827en.htm
http://www.mag-roza.com.pl/fc0827en.htm

Is there some way to find out who owns this business? (I mean without
actually contacting the business and asking such a blunt question.)

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA

TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER,
BORZYKOWSKI(Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Koniecpol-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Przyborow-Zgierz-Lodz-Przedborz)

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JRI Poland #Poland A business in Poland #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am interested in a business in Poland called:

GERAT - und MASCHINENBAU M.A.G.- ROZA Sp. z o.o. (there is an umlaut over the A in GERAT)

or simply:

M.A.G. ROZA

or

MAG ROZA

I believe that this business might be associated with a cousin that I have
been searching for. (And his mother, also my cousin, was named Roza!)

I have found a few tidbits of information on the web regarding this
company:

http://www.dialcom.com.pl/mag-roza/fc0827en.htm
http://www.mag-roza.com.pl/fc0827en.htm

Is there some way to find out who owns this business? (I mean without
actually contacting the business and asking such a blunt question.)

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA

TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER,
BORZYKOWSKI(Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Koniecpol-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Przyborow-Zgierz-Lodz-Przedborz)

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Simon Phineas BURSTEIN and the Kovno Talmudic Academy #poland

ewilson4@...
 

Dear List:

My cousin, Simon Phineas BURSTEIN was born in Neustadt in Suwalk in
1871. Before coming to the US in 1888 he attended the Kovno Talmudic Academy.

Would anyone know anything about him or his family?

Hopefully,
Bob Wilson
Rochester NY

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JRI Poland #Poland Simon Phineas BURSTEIN and the Kovno Talmudic Academy #poland

ewilson4@...
 

Dear List:

My cousin, Simon Phineas BURSTEIN was born in Neustadt in Suwalk in
1871. Before coming to the US in 1888 he attended the Kovno Talmudic Academy.

Would anyone know anything about him or his family?

Hopefully,
Bob Wilson
Rochester NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


looking for Kalev Minz from Lithuania #lithuania

Pnina Rosenberg <danielron@...>
 

On behalf of my mother - Mrs. Chaviva-Luba Rosenberg (nee Minz) and her
sister, Mrs. Bat-Sheva Porat (nee Minz) I am sending this call for
information:

We are looking for our brother Kalev Minz. He was vorn in Vilnius, 1915- to
Benjamin and Rachel-Gita Minz. In 1932 the family moved to Siaulai. In the
beginning of 1941, before the German took over Lithuania, our brother joined the Russian Army, and was sent with the 16 Division to the East. The rest of the family was sent to the camps.

After the war we met people who served with him during the war at the
"Lithuanian division no. 16", but they did not know where he is. We were
told that he was twice hospitalized in an army hospital in Moscow and was
sent back to his unit.

Few years ago we received a photograph of him, wearing the army uniform,
which was taken beofre the end of the war.

We know that many soldiers >from the 16 Division were lost in ORIOL. We
learned >from a TV program, on August 4, 1993, on the 50 anniversay of
freeing ORIOL by the Russian army, that there is a new museum in ORIOL -
P.T.P.

We had tried the Yad Vashem and other similar institutions but did not find
anything.

Any information will be of most important to us.
Pnina Rosenberg
Haifa, Israel

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Specific family information should be sent privately. Suggestions for research methods that would be of general interest may be shared with the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania looking for Kalev Minz from Lithuania #lithuania

Pnina Rosenberg <danielron@...>
 

On behalf of my mother - Mrs. Chaviva-Luba Rosenberg (nee Minz) and her
sister, Mrs. Bat-Sheva Porat (nee Minz) I am sending this call for
information:

We are looking for our brother Kalev Minz. He was vorn in Vilnius, 1915- to
Benjamin and Rachel-Gita Minz. In 1932 the family moved to Siaulai. In the
beginning of 1941, before the German took over Lithuania, our brother joined the Russian Army, and was sent with the 16 Division to the East. The rest of the family was sent to the camps.

After the war we met people who served with him during the war at the
"Lithuanian division no. 16", but they did not know where he is. We were
told that he was twice hospitalized in an army hospital in Moscow and was
sent back to his unit.

Few years ago we received a photograph of him, wearing the army uniform,
which was taken beofre the end of the war.

We know that many soldiers >from the 16 Division were lost in ORIOL. We
learned >from a TV program, on August 4, 1993, on the 50 anniversay of
freeing ORIOL by the Russian army, that there is a new museum in ORIOL -
P.T.P.

We had tried the Yad Vashem and other similar institutions but did not find
anything.

Any information will be of most important to us.
Pnina Rosenberg
Haifa, Israel

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Specific family information should be sent privately. Suggestions for research methods that would be of general interest may be shared with the list.


Vsia Vilna 1913-1915 - Businesses registered in names of wives. #lithuania

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

Dear colleagues

Recently whilst working on our STEINHAUER tree, and in the light of two
Pages of Testimony recently discovered at Yad Vashem, my cousins and I
have now virtually reached the conclusion that all the STEINHAUER (various
spellings) on the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list were definitely our relatives,
albeit >from two separate branches of the Steinhauer family.

Anyway, during my brainstorming on this research I looked again at
information I received some years ago >from Aleksandrs Feigmanis and the
also the entries in 1913 and 1915 editions of Vsia Vilna. Although I had a strong feeling that all the Steinhauers listed in Vsia Vilna, as well as
the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list, were definitely "ours", I have been trying to
justify this feeling.

Now all the pennies have dropped - with a big thank you to my fifth
Steinhauer cousin, Paul. We think we have found the links, although there
is still one name that has not been conclusively recognised.

As a result we have realised that two (not one as previously known) of the entries in the 1913 and 1915 Vsia Vilna directories are for businesses
which were registered in the wife's name, viz :

In 1913, the furniture business at Vilna, Millionnaya 3, was registered in
the name of my GGGM, Basheva Lapidus (nee Shteingauer). Her husband, my
GGGF, Aron ben Shlomo Lapidus died in 1914.

In 1913 and 1915 there were listings for :
Carpenter workshop of Mich. Ber. Shteingauer, Bolshaya Str. 74
Furniture trade of Shteingauer, Mich. Ber., Bolshaya Str. 74

I stupidly assumed that Mich. Ber Shteingauer was a man. But my cousin
Paul has just realised that the business was probably owned/run by
Jossel/Yosef/Iosel ben Lipman SHTEINGAUER (I.L. Shteingauer) whose wife's
name was Chjena-Michla bas Ber SNIPISHKIER SHTEINGAUER - thus we now
realise that the business was registered in the name of Michla bas Ber
SHTEINGAUER!!! Lipman SHTEINGAUER b.ca. 1850, was a younger brother of my
GGGM, Basheva SHTEINGAUER LAPIDUS. Probably the Lipman and/orLipa
Steinhauer listed on the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list and the associated Reise
labour camp list was/were one of the sons of Chjena-Michla and Jossel.

Chjena-Michla and Jossel SHTEINGAUER and their family were in the Vilna
Ghetto and we know that Chjena-Michla and Jossel probably perished in the
camp at Klooga, Estonia. We now know at least two of their sons (possibly
three) and one daughter-in-law somehow survived. Most of the other
Steinhauers in the Vilna Ghetto probably perished.

However, in the light of these two businesses both being listed in Vsia
Vilna in the names of the wives (I cannot see my GGGM, born ca.1841 - who
had 13 children) running a carpenter/furniture business in 1913 (I still do not know when she died, but it was after the death of her husband in July 1914),

I wonder if anyone has any thoughts about why businesses in Vilna
might have been registered in the wife's name, rather than the husband's? In our case, I very much doubt if it was because the husbands
were "scholars" and thus didn't "work". And I doubt that the women
concerned were carpenters!

Has anyone got any other possible explanations? Was this a common practice?

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Dowunder


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vsia Vilna 1913-1915 - Businesses registered in names of wives. #lithuania

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

Dear colleagues

Recently whilst working on our STEINHAUER tree, and in the light of two
Pages of Testimony recently discovered at Yad Vashem, my cousins and I
have now virtually reached the conclusion that all the STEINHAUER (various
spellings) on the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list were definitely our relatives,
albeit >from two separate branches of the Steinhauer family.

Anyway, during my brainstorming on this research I looked again at
information I received some years ago >from Aleksandrs Feigmanis and the
also the entries in 1913 and 1915 editions of Vsia Vilna. Although I had a strong feeling that all the Steinhauers listed in Vsia Vilna, as well as
the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list, were definitely "ours", I have been trying to
justify this feeling.

Now all the pennies have dropped - with a big thank you to my fifth
Steinhauer cousin, Paul. We think we have found the links, although there
is still one name that has not been conclusively recognised.

As a result we have realised that two (not one as previously known) of the entries in the 1913 and 1915 Vsia Vilna directories are for businesses
which were registered in the wife's name, viz :

In 1913, the furniture business at Vilna, Millionnaya 3, was registered in
the name of my GGGM, Basheva Lapidus (nee Shteingauer). Her husband, my
GGGF, Aron ben Shlomo Lapidus died in 1914.

In 1913 and 1915 there were listings for :
Carpenter workshop of Mich. Ber. Shteingauer, Bolshaya Str. 74
Furniture trade of Shteingauer, Mich. Ber., Bolshaya Str. 74

I stupidly assumed that Mich. Ber Shteingauer was a man. But my cousin
Paul has just realised that the business was probably owned/run by
Jossel/Yosef/Iosel ben Lipman SHTEINGAUER (I.L. Shteingauer) whose wife's
name was Chjena-Michla bas Ber SNIPISHKIER SHTEINGAUER - thus we now
realise that the business was registered in the name of Michla bas Ber
SHTEINGAUER!!! Lipman SHTEINGAUER b.ca. 1850, was a younger brother of my
GGGM, Basheva SHTEINGAUER LAPIDUS. Probably the Lipman and/orLipa
Steinhauer listed on the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list and the associated Reise
labour camp list was/were one of the sons of Chjena-Michla and Jossel.

Chjena-Michla and Jossel SHTEINGAUER and their family were in the Vilna
Ghetto and we know that Chjena-Michla and Jossel probably perished in the
camp at Klooga, Estonia. We now know at least two of their sons (possibly
three) and one daughter-in-law somehow survived. Most of the other
Steinhauers in the Vilna Ghetto probably perished.

However, in the light of these two businesses both being listed in Vsia
Vilna in the names of the wives (I cannot see my GGGM, born ca.1841 - who
had 13 children) running a carpenter/furniture business in 1913 (I still do not know when she died, but it was after the death of her husband in July 1914),

I wonder if anyone has any thoughts about why businesses in Vilna
might have been registered in the wife's name, rather than the husband's? In our case, I very much doubt if it was because the husbands
were "scholars" and thus didn't "work". And I doubt that the women
concerned were carpenters!

Has anyone got any other possible explanations? Was this a common practice?

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Dowunder


My Fried (Freyd) Family #lithuania

susan farb
 

I have received new information on my FRIED (FREYD) family, >from Simneskiai (?), Lithuania. The Line of descent I now have is:

Dov _____Fried>Aryeh Lieb m. Merki Faulkenski (?)>Itsic Fried m. Sara "Golde" Gloldberg>Reuben m. Edel.

Reuben had the following siblings: Ysroel, Shifra, Odes, Dvora, Hanna and Shmaraya. His children were Miriam Edelstein, Moshe who married Bluma, and Chaim who married Sara Jaffe.

Sara Goldberg's Line was:

Yisroel Goldberg, >from Neustadt, Lithuania>Reb. Mose Goldberg.

If this sounds familiar to anyone, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I have also received a photo of Reuben Fried, taken about 1885. If you are related, I would be happy to send a copy.

Susan Farb

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania My Fried (Freyd) Family #lithuania

susan farb
 

I have received new information on my FRIED (FREYD) family, >from Simneskiai (?), Lithuania. The Line of descent I now have is:

Dov _____Fried>Aryeh Lieb m. Merki Faulkenski (?)>Itsic Fried m. Sara "Golde" Gloldberg>Reuben m. Edel.

Reuben had the following siblings: Ysroel, Shifra, Odes, Dvora, Hanna and Shmaraya. His children were Miriam Edelstein, Moshe who married Bluma, and Chaim who married Sara Jaffe.

Sara Goldberg's Line was:

Yisroel Goldberg, >from Neustadt, Lithuania>Reb. Mose Goldberg.

If this sounds familiar to anyone, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I have also received a photo of Reuben Fried, taken about 1885. If you are related, I would be happy to send a copy.

Susan Farb

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Toporow #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I just discovered that my paternal great-grandmother was >from a town
called---- Toporow.
I knew that after she got married,she lived in
Druzhkopol,where my grandfather and his paternal ancestors were from.
Is anybody familiar with Toporow?Has any records been
located?
I appreciate any assistance you can provide.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching EISENBERG >from Toporow
GERSHFELD >from Druzhkopol


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Toporow #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I just discovered that my paternal great-grandmother was >from a town
called---- Toporow.
I knew that after she got married,she lived in
Druzhkopol,where my grandfather and his paternal ancestors were from.
Is anybody familiar with Toporow?Has any records been
located?
I appreciate any assistance you can provide.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching EISENBERG >from Toporow
GERSHFELD >from Druzhkopol


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