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HARTMAN-GLASER #general

martha <martha@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of my cousin
Lissa HARTMANN, daughter of Levi Hartmann and
Mathilde nee LEVOR, both murdered in Sobibor.
Lissa escaped to Sweden and in 1948 was known to
be living in Jaerna, Sweden with her husband Mr.
GLASER. Her brother Bruno was also murdered, in
Auschwitz. If any of this sounds familiar,
please contact me privately.

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Israel
martha
martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HARTMAN-GLASER #general

martha <martha@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of my cousin
Lissa HARTMANN, daughter of Levi Hartmann and
Mathilde nee LEVOR, both murdered in Sobibor.
Lissa escaped to Sweden and in 1948 was known to
be living in Jaerna, Sweden with her husband Mr.
GLASER. Her brother Bruno was also murdered, in
Auschwitz. If any of this sounds familiar,
please contact me privately.

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Israel
martha
martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il


Duma Voter's List Accuracy? #ukraine

haviva <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners.
I have found the name of a relative on the Duma Voter's List which the
Ukraine SIG has made available to us. The name of my relative has a
possible error in one of the names. I am wondering if other genners have
found mistakes on these lists which could be similar to the name distortions
and innacuracies we find on the manifests listed on the Ellis Island data
base.
Please let me know if you have found these lists to be perfectly accurate,
or if you have found them to contain mistakes.
Thank you.
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
Palm Beach, Florida


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Duma Voter's List Accuracy? #ukraine

haviva <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners.
I have found the name of a relative on the Duma Voter's List which the
Ukraine SIG has made available to us. The name of my relative has a
possible error in one of the names. I am wondering if other genners have
found mistakes on these lists which could be similar to the name distortions
and innacuracies we find on the manifests listed on the Ellis Island data
base.
Please let me know if you have found these lists to be perfectly accurate,
or if you have found them to contain mistakes.
Thank you.
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
Palm Beach, Florida


Yiddish translation requested: Viewmate #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

On JewishGen's "Viewmate" I have posted a Yiddish passage, file - VM2950,
from the Brzeziny Yizkor Book that has been very difficult to translate. If any of you would like to take up a challenge to translate the underlined phrase beginning with "aber der...," I would be very grateful.
See: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2950

Please send response directly to me, not to the list. Thanks!

Fay Bussgang, fbussgang@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland Yiddish translation requested: Viewmate #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

On JewishGen's "Viewmate" I have posted a Yiddish passage, file - VM2950,
from the Brzeziny Yizkor Book that has been very difficult to translate. If any of you would like to take up a challenge to translate the underlined phrase beginning with "aber der...," I would be very grateful.
See: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2950

Please send response directly to me, not to the list. Thanks!

Fay Bussgang, fbussgang@aol.com


viewmate #belarus

alan cohen <ab.cohen@...>
 

I have put on Viewmate the second part of a marriage registration in Polish.
I have managed to sort out the first half but this section has beaten me.
Can anyone please help with the translation?
It is on the ViewMate address
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2966

ALAN COHEN, Pinner, UK

researching GLAZER - Lipkany, Bessarabia; COHEN (KUNYEN/KUNIN) -
Vitepsk/Mohilev; ROMANOFSKY-Poltava; DEITSCH (DACZ, DEYTZ etc) -Plock,
Poland; KUTNOWSKI - Gostynin, Poland; KIERSTEJN - Lodz, Poland, HAMBURG
(London).


Belarus SIG #Belarus viewmate #belarus

alan cohen <ab.cohen@...>
 

I have put on Viewmate the second part of a marriage registration in Polish.
I have managed to sort out the first half but this section has beaten me.
Can anyone please help with the translation?
It is on the ViewMate address
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2966

ALAN COHEN, Pinner, UK

researching GLAZER - Lipkany, Bessarabia; COHEN (KUNYEN/KUNIN) -
Vitepsk/Mohilev; ROMANOFSKY-Poltava; DEITSCH (DACZ, DEYTZ etc) -Plock,
Poland; KUTNOWSKI - Gostynin, Poland; KIERSTEJN - Lodz, Poland, HAMBURG
(London).


New member's names of interest #poland

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I have just joined this particular group.

My particular interests are the FREIDMAN and LICHTENSTEIN families in Goniadz and a PIKHOLZ >from Poltava who married a WAJNSTEJN >from Bialystok.

The Pikholz-Wajnstein couple had three Pikholz sons in the period 1914-1921.

In the case of the Friedmans and Lichtensteins, my interest is in both families stretching back to the 1800's.

Israel Pickholtz


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland New member's names of interest #poland

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I have just joined this particular group.

My particular interests are the FREIDMAN and LICHTENSTEIN families in Goniadz and a PIKHOLZ >from Poltava who married a WAJNSTEJN >from Bialystok.

The Pikholz-Wajnstein couple had three Pikholz sons in the period 1914-1921.

In the case of the Friedmans and Lichtensteins, my interest is in both families stretching back to the 1800's.

Israel Pickholtz


Joseph Katz and Minnie Pollack #poland

KMDench@...
 

My husband's grandmother's parents came >from Bialystok about 1904 and
settled in Brooklyn. They changed their name to Cohen. The children who
immigrated with them were Rose, Nathan, David, Lewis, and Raphael. When they passed through customs, the official commented on "Mrs. Katz and her 5 little kittens". Their daughter, Rebecca was born in Brooklyn and we think one other son. She married outside her faith and was basically cut off >from her family. She visited her mother once in Brooklyn and her brother, Raphael who owned a salvage company in Gananoque, Ontario.
We would like to know if anyone knows of this family or has run across
them in research in Bialystok. We want our children to know about their
proud heritage since all of that was lost so long ago. In Ellis Island records the closest names that have come up are: Mindel, Haigh, Label, Jankel, David, and Rachel. Would these translate to the names above?

Thank you for any help.
Tim and Kathy Dench

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BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Joseph Katz and Minnie Pollack #poland

KMDench@...
 

My husband's grandmother's parents came >from Bialystok about 1904 and
settled in Brooklyn. They changed their name to Cohen. The children who
immigrated with them were Rose, Nathan, David, Lewis, and Raphael. When they passed through customs, the official commented on "Mrs. Katz and her 5 little kittens". Their daughter, Rebecca was born in Brooklyn and we think one other son. She married outside her faith and was basically cut off >from her family. She visited her mother once in Brooklyn and her brother, Raphael who owned a salvage company in Gananoque, Ontario.
We would like to know if anyone knows of this family or has run across
them in research in Bialystok. We want our children to know about their
proud heritage since all of that was lost so long ago. In Ellis Island records the closest names that have come up are: Mindel, Haigh, Label, Jankel, David, and Rachel. Would these translate to the names above?

Thank you for any help.
Tim and Kathy Dench

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Re: Crisis of Conscience #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

dnz wrote:

Address your forum messages to <bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


My aunt, who is still living, would definitely say "why bother" and I know
my deceased grandparents (all GLOGOWSKI and LEVIN >from BIELSK PODLASKI)
would agree with her. Shtetl life was definitely filled with Jewish culture, but it was also one of poverty, discrimination, fear and memories of bloodshed. I don't think rebuilding replica synagogues is a way of commemorating the past. The only and real way is to educate our children about their ancestors and, through the work that all of you do, that is what I am doing with my nine year old daughter. Just to be able to show her photographs of Bielsk was so exciting and special for me. Syngagogues were and are not meant to be showpieces, simply places of worship.

Deborah Morris,
Victoria, Australia.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bialystoker" <Bialystoker@comcast.net>
To: "BIALYGen: Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group"
<bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [bialystok] Re: Crisis of Conscience
I see your point. It seems that among Jews there's no big need to build
a wooden synagogue replica in Poland. It seems to be a project more for
Poles? It does seem a bit weird to me to build a replica of a house of
worship?. I think the the idea is through this project to further
develop old wood building skills among Timber craftsman, and to create a
venue where documentation of the many wooden synagogues in the Bialystok
region could be exhibited.

Tilford


Re: Zabludow #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

In case anyone is interested this is a link to the Timber Framers Guild.
They are deeply involved in the Zabludow synagogue project.

Tilford

http://www.tfguild.org/


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: Crisis of Conscience #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

dnz wrote:

Address your forum messages to <bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


My aunt, who is still living, would definitely say "why bother" and I know
my deceased grandparents (all GLOGOWSKI and LEVIN >from BIELSK PODLASKI)
would agree with her. Shtetl life was definitely filled with Jewish culture, but it was also one of poverty, discrimination, fear and memories of bloodshed. I don't think rebuilding replica synagogues is a way of commemorating the past. The only and real way is to educate our children about their ancestors and, through the work that all of you do, that is what I am doing with my nine year old daughter. Just to be able to show her photographs of Bielsk was so exciting and special for me. Syngagogues were and are not meant to be showpieces, simply places of worship.

Deborah Morris,
Victoria, Australia.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bialystoker" <Bialystoker@comcast.net>
To: "BIALYGen: Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group"
<bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [bialystok] Re: Crisis of Conscience
I see your point. It seems that among Jews there's no big need to build
a wooden synagogue replica in Poland. It seems to be a project more for
Poles? It does seem a bit weird to me to build a replica of a house of
worship?. I think the the idea is through this project to further
develop old wood building skills among Timber craftsman, and to create a
venue where documentation of the many wooden synagogues in the Bialystok
region could be exhibited.

Tilford


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland RE:Zabludow #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

In case anyone is interested this is a link to the Timber Framers Guild.
They are deeply involved in the Zabludow synagogue project.

Tilford

http://www.tfguild.org/


Words to MY YIDDISH MA MA #lithuania

WTEENA@...
 

I have been trying to locate the words to the song, MY YIDDISH MA MA". I
tried a few ways of putting it in but no luck. Would someone out there be able to tell me where I can locate the words. Thanks.
Teena in Pa.

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Words to MY YIDDISH MA MA #lithuania

WTEENA@...
 

I have been trying to locate the words to the song, MY YIDDISH MA MA". I
tried a few ways of putting it in but no luck. Would someone out there be able to tell me where I can locate the words. Thanks.
Teena in Pa.

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Dobe Most/Mostaite (and thanks re "Shaktiel") #lithuania

Meri-Jane Rochelson <rochelso@...>
 

First of all, I want to thank everyone who responded to my question
about a town called Shaktiel or Shakteel. I was not able to thank you
all individually, but I am grateful for your suggestions and intend to
follow up as many as I can.

Now I have another question. I have a picture of my half-brother who
was killed in the Holocaust, taken in a park in 1937. The park had very
distinctive, almost semi-tropical or aloe-like foliage, close to the
ground. In the Ninth Fort Museum there is a picture of three little
girls in the same park. The caption indicates that one of them, named
Dobe Mostaite (or Dobe Most, removing the Lithuanian ending) survived
the Shoah and made aliyah. The other two girls were sisters named
Fydler. I wonder whether any Israelis on this listserv might know Dobe
Most (who may now have another name), and, if so, whether they might be
able to find out >from her where exactly this park was located. I
believe it is in or near Kovno/Kaunas, but I have a feeling the
landscaping has changed.

I don't want to post either one of the pictures on the web. But if my
description rings a bell with anyone--or if you know this person--please
reply.

Thank you, and Chag Sukkot Sameach!

Meri-Jane Rochelson
Miami, FL

searching ROCHELSON and LUBOVSKY >from Kovno, Jurborg, Velion
FRIEDMAN and RUBIN >from Dolhinovo (in Belarus, between Minsk and Vilna)

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Dobe Most/Mostaite (and thanks re "Shaktiel") #lithuania

Meri-Jane Rochelson <rochelso@...>
 

First of all, I want to thank everyone who responded to my question
about a town called Shaktiel or Shakteel. I was not able to thank you
all individually, but I am grateful for your suggestions and intend to
follow up as many as I can.

Now I have another question. I have a picture of my half-brother who
was killed in the Holocaust, taken in a park in 1937. The park had very
distinctive, almost semi-tropical or aloe-like foliage, close to the
ground. In the Ninth Fort Museum there is a picture of three little
girls in the same park. The caption indicates that one of them, named
Dobe Mostaite (or Dobe Most, removing the Lithuanian ending) survived
the Shoah and made aliyah. The other two girls were sisters named
Fydler. I wonder whether any Israelis on this listserv might know Dobe
Most (who may now have another name), and, if so, whether they might be
able to find out >from her where exactly this park was located. I
believe it is in or near Kovno/Kaunas, but I have a feeling the
landscaping has changed.

I don't want to post either one of the pictures on the web. But if my
description rings a bell with anyone--or if you know this person--please
reply.

Thank you, and Chag Sukkot Sameach!

Meri-Jane Rochelson
Miami, FL

searching ROCHELSON and LUBOVSKY >from Kovno, Jurborg, Velion
FRIEDMAN and RUBIN >from Dolhinovo (in Belarus, between Minsk and Vilna)

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