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Re: Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Sam Schleman posted as follows:

"Could someone whose knowledge of Hungarian is greater than mine (Almost the
entire Western World) tell me if the name "Wolf" would be "Farkas" in
Hungarian? If not, what would Farkas translate into?"

The Hungarian secular name Farkash was widely used by Hungarian Jews, to
such an extent that the rabbis accepted it as a Legal name for identifying
a Jewish male in a Get (Jewish divorce contract). Thus, if a man had the
Hebrew name Yehuda and the Hungarian secular name Farkash, his name would
be written in a Get as "Yehuda haMechune Farkash" (in Hebrew letters).

Sam can see the two names Wolf and Farkas listed in the Hungarian Given
Names Data Base, available at <
http://www.JewishGen.org/databases/GivenNames/ >, by clicking on "Searh the
GNDBs" in the left-hand panel, and then filling in the Search Form with the
search names: wolf OR farkas and specifying the European country
"Hungary". Of the two records retrieved, the one for Farkash shows that
those men who had this Hungarian name might also have used one of the other
_European_ secular names: WOLFGANG, Wolf, Volfgang, Lupus, or
Wolfgangus. The first few names are of German origin, while the last one
is the Latinization of the first name.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Re: h-sig digest: October 25, 2003 #hungary

korman <korman3@...>
 

Yes, in myBudapest family, Wolf = Wilhelm = Farkas.

Debbi Korman
Van Nuys


Marc Chagall of Vitebsk #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

Though my paternal grandfather, Jacob SEGAL, was born in St. Petersburg,
it always was certain that his parents had moved there >from somewhere in
Lithuania. Recent correspondence, courtesy of JewishGen, indicates that
his family probably came >from the shtetlach of Upyna and Shavli (now,
Siauliai.) When my father and his brothers still were alive, a family
legend always was that the surname of artist Marc CHAGALL actually was
Segal, and that he was their cousin.

Now, thanks to JewishGen, I have communicated with another participant
who almost certainly is a Segal cousin, long-lost to my branch of the
family. He, too, had heard this exact same story about Marc Chagall being
our cousin.

Searching through the archives, I found that, in 1996, a JewishGen
participant, Charles LAPKOFF, posted a comment in which he says that it is
a "well-known" fact that Chagall's last name really was Segal. I have
written to the email address that Mr. Lapkoff had provided, asking for
further information, but that email has bounced back.

Vitebsk, of course, is in Belarus--but so, too, now are substantial
sections of what had been the "Vilna Gubernyia" ("province") of Lithuania,
proving that these two areas virtually are contiguous.

In Hebrew, my family uses the three-letter Levite spelling of Segal
and, indeed, the pronunciation is much closer to "Chagall" than it is
to "See-gill," but there should not be the "sh" sound at the beginning.

Can any of you smart Genners shed light on the origin of Marc Chagall's
surname?

Thanks!
Judy Segal, New York City

SEGAL of Lithuania, also SIMON, of Vilna and of ILYA, formerly in the
Vilna Gubernyia, now in Belarus; BAYERN/ HERSHKOWITZ (all spellings) of
Austria/Hungary, especially Budapest and Czech Republic/ Slovakia,
particularly Kosice,a/k/a Kashau, Kassa; SCHWARTZBERG/ SCHWARZBERG of
Moldava, formerly Ukraine,probably Kishinev, also ROBBINS, KORN, ROGOFF,
WECHSLER, HART


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Sam Schleman posted as follows:

"Could someone whose knowledge of Hungarian is greater than mine (Almost the
entire Western World) tell me if the name "Wolf" would be "Farkas" in
Hungarian? If not, what would Farkas translate into?"

The Hungarian secular name Farkash was widely used by Hungarian Jews, to
such an extent that the rabbis accepted it as a Legal name for identifying
a Jewish male in a Get (Jewish divorce contract). Thus, if a man had the
Hebrew name Yehuda and the Hungarian secular name Farkash, his name would
be written in a Get as "Yehuda haMechune Farkash" (in Hebrew letters).

Sam can see the two names Wolf and Farkas listed in the Hungarian Given
Names Data Base, available at <
http://www.JewishGen.org/databases/GivenNames/ >, by clicking on "Searh the
GNDBs" in the left-hand panel, and then filling in the Search Form with the
search names: wolf OR farkas and specifying the European country
"Hungary". Of the two records retrieved, the one for Farkash shows that
those men who had this Hungarian name might also have used one of the other
_European_ secular names: WOLFGANG, Wolf, Volfgang, Lupus, or
Wolfgangus. The first few names are of German origin, while the last one
is the Latinization of the first name.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 25, 2003 #hungary

korman <korman3@...>
 

Yes, in myBudapest family, Wolf = Wilhelm = Farkas.

Debbi Korman
Van Nuys


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marc Chagall of Vitebsk #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

Though my paternal grandfather, Jacob SEGAL, was born in St. Petersburg,
it always was certain that his parents had moved there >from somewhere in
Lithuania. Recent correspondence, courtesy of JewishGen, indicates that
his family probably came >from the shtetlach of Upyna and Shavli (now,
Siauliai.) When my father and his brothers still were alive, a family
legend always was that the surname of artist Marc CHAGALL actually was
Segal, and that he was their cousin.

Now, thanks to JewishGen, I have communicated with another participant
who almost certainly is a Segal cousin, long-lost to my branch of the
family. He, too, had heard this exact same story about Marc Chagall being
our cousin.

Searching through the archives, I found that, in 1996, a JewishGen
participant, Charles LAPKOFF, posted a comment in which he says that it is
a "well-known" fact that Chagall's last name really was Segal. I have
written to the email address that Mr. Lapkoff had provided, asking for
further information, but that email has bounced back.

Vitebsk, of course, is in Belarus--but so, too, now are substantial
sections of what had been the "Vilna Gubernyia" ("province") of Lithuania,
proving that these two areas virtually are contiguous.

In Hebrew, my family uses the three-letter Levite spelling of Segal
and, indeed, the pronunciation is much closer to "Chagall" than it is
to "See-gill," but there should not be the "sh" sound at the beginning.

Can any of you smart Genners shed light on the origin of Marc Chagall's
surname?

Thanks!
Judy Segal, New York City

SEGAL of Lithuania, also SIMON, of Vilna and of ILYA, formerly in the
Vilna Gubernyia, now in Belarus; BAYERN/ HERSHKOWITZ (all spellings) of
Austria/Hungary, especially Budapest and Czech Republic/ Slovakia,
particularly Kosice,a/k/a Kashau, Kassa; SCHWARTZBERG/ SCHWARZBERG of
Moldava, formerly Ukraine,probably Kishinev, also ROBBINS, KORN, ROGOFF,
WECHSLER, HART


בעניין: [h-sig] Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

פריש <frishmechlis@...>
 

Dear Mr. Schleman,
My Dictionary says: Farkas=Wolf.

Karl Frish
Hod-Hasharon
Israel

Moderator VK: Thanks to everyone who offered assistance. This thread is ended.


Hungary SIG #Hungary בעניין: [h-sig] Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

פריש <frishmechlis@...>
 

Dear Mr. Schleman,
My Dictionary says: Farkas=Wolf.

Karl Frish
Hod-Hasharon
Israel

Moderator VK: Thanks to everyone who offered assistance. This thread is ended.


Hungarian translation #hungary

Stephen Casey <caseydanhan@...>
 

Dear Friends,
there are lots of messages on the H-SIG asking for simple translation of a
Hungarian word.
If I may suggest, there are excellent dictionaries on the Net, translating
not only words, but simple sentences, too.
One of them

http://consulting.medios.fi/dictionary/

An example, somebody asked the translation of Farkas, a first name, meaning
the same way, the name of the animal.
Do it on the Net. The Hungarian is a hard language to learn, but fairly easy
to find a translation on the Net!
Stephen Casey

Moderator VK: Thank you, Stephen, for the excellent advice. I also suggest that anyone with more than a passing interest in Hungarian roots research should get a Hungarian-English dictionary. Barnes & Noble had several to choose from.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian translation #hungary

Stephen Casey <caseydanhan@...>
 

Dear Friends,
there are lots of messages on the H-SIG asking for simple translation of a
Hungarian word.
If I may suggest, there are excellent dictionaries on the Net, translating
not only words, but simple sentences, too.
One of them

http://consulting.medios.fi/dictionary/

An example, somebody asked the translation of Farkas, a first name, meaning
the same way, the name of the animal.
Do it on the Net. The Hungarian is a hard language to learn, but fairly easy
to find a translation on the Net!
Stephen Casey

Moderator VK: Thank you, Stephen, for the excellent advice. I also suggest that anyone with more than a passing interest in Hungarian roots research should get a Hungarian-English dictionary. Barnes & Noble had several to choose from.


Chaskel KORNHEIL from Warsaw -- EIDB Name Reversal #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

If anyone was looking for 17 year old Chaskel Kornheil >from Warsaw on the
EIDB, and could not find him, it was because his first name was entered as
the surname.

He arrived on the Lapland sailing >from Antwerp on June 13, 1910,
The manifest is many pages long, and confusing to read.. as the numbering
is erratic.

Hope this helps someone.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaskel KORNHEIL from Warsaw -- EIDB Name Reversal #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

If anyone was looking for 17 year old Chaskel Kornheil >from Warsaw on the
EIDB, and could not find him, it was because his first name was entered as
the surname.

He arrived on the Lapland sailing >from Antwerp on June 13, 1910,
The manifest is many pages long, and confusing to read.. as the numbering
is erratic.

Hope this helps someone.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


Genealogy Open House - Seattle #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

I just thought I'd pass this along...

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State is having a genealogy
open house on Sunday 10/26/03.

Click on this link for more information: http://www.jgsws.org/events.htm

--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
mail@shawnharris-NOSPAM-.net
If you reply, be sure and remove the '-NOSPAM-' >from my email address.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy Open House - Seattle #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

I just thought I'd pass this along...

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State is having a genealogy
open house on Sunday 10/26/03.

Click on this link for more information: http://www.jgsws.org/events.htm

--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
mail@shawnharris-NOSPAM-.net
If you reply, be sure and remove the '-NOSPAM-' >from my email address.


JGS-Greater Miami, Inc. Meeting November 2, 2003 #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners,

You are cordially invited to attend our meeting on November 2nd, 10AM.
Greater Miami Jewish Federation Building
4200 Biscayne Boulevard
305-576-4000
Free security parking on the premises and light refreshments served as
always. Please call the Federation for directions onto the property as the
Biscayne Blvd entrance is no longer available.

There is no charge for guests who are always welcome!

Program:
We are pleased to announce a new guest speaker whose research has found
over 800 family members! Our wonderful new speaker is: Mr. Leonard A.
Wien, Jr. an experienced writer and photographer who has written his first
book titled Songs of Memory.

Well over 800 members of the Wien family have been found during a 21 month
search into the past. This record of many lives begins in the Pale of
Settlement in Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland in the 1820's. It ends in the
present. These stories of the Wien family and its many branches contain
many answers as to why they left their homes and lives in Europe to come
to America, how they lived once they got here and how they brought up
their children. They became a proud part of America as they changed its
landscape as well.

from simple beginnings, members of this family often rose to the heights
in real estate, law and business. The book is filled with photographs of
their world. Weddings, nights out on the town, family photos and simple
events are captured forever on these pages. Original birth certificates,
census forms, wedding licenses, maps and documents help explain where they
came from, who they were and how they lived.

Together these stories tell how they changed America and were changed by
their experiences. They are the stories of one family's history. In a
world of frequent comings and goings, these stories tell us >from where we
have come. Come enjoy the Songs of Memory.

We are very fortunate to have such a great speaker. He is someone not to
be missed.

We look forward to seeing you at the meeting.

Joan Parker
President JGS-GM, Inc.
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS and WINOGRAD-Brest, Litovsk maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx and
Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS-Greater Miami, Inc. Meeting November 2, 2003 #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners,

You are cordially invited to attend our meeting on November 2nd, 10AM.
Greater Miami Jewish Federation Building
4200 Biscayne Boulevard
305-576-4000
Free security parking on the premises and light refreshments served as
always. Please call the Federation for directions onto the property as the
Biscayne Blvd entrance is no longer available.

There is no charge for guests who are always welcome!

Program:
We are pleased to announce a new guest speaker whose research has found
over 800 family members! Our wonderful new speaker is: Mr. Leonard A.
Wien, Jr. an experienced writer and photographer who has written his first
book titled Songs of Memory.

Well over 800 members of the Wien family have been found during a 21 month
search into the past. This record of many lives begins in the Pale of
Settlement in Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland in the 1820's. It ends in the
present. These stories of the Wien family and its many branches contain
many answers as to why they left their homes and lives in Europe to come
to America, how they lived once they got here and how they brought up
their children. They became a proud part of America as they changed its
landscape as well.

from simple beginnings, members of this family often rose to the heights
in real estate, law and business. The book is filled with photographs of
their world. Weddings, nights out on the town, family photos and simple
events are captured forever on these pages. Original birth certificates,
census forms, wedding licenses, maps and documents help explain where they
came from, who they were and how they lived.

Together these stories tell how they changed America and were changed by
their experiences. They are the stories of one family's history. In a
world of frequent comings and goings, these stories tell us >from where we
have come. Come enjoy the Songs of Memory.

We are very fortunate to have such a great speaker. He is someone not to
be missed.

We look forward to seeing you at the meeting.

Joan Parker
President JGS-GM, Inc.
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS and WINOGRAD-Brest, Litovsk maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx and
Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


Re: Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 10/25/03 3:04 PM, Sam Schleman at Samara99@comcast.net wrote:


Hello All.

Could someone whose knowledge of Hungarian is greater than mine (Almost the
entire Western World) tell me if the name "Wolf" would be "Farkas" in
Hungarian? If not, what would Farkas translate into?

Thanks for your help.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net

Sam you got it right.

Peter



======================
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Does "Wolf" = "Farkas" #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 10/25/03 3:04 PM, Sam Schleman at Samara99@comcast.net wrote:


Hello All.

Could someone whose knowledge of Hungarian is greater than mine (Almost the
entire Western World) tell me if the name "Wolf" would be "Farkas" in
Hungarian? If not, what would Farkas translate into?

Thanks for your help.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net

Sam you got it right.

Peter



======================
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


HAIMBERG #france

msheinberg@...
 

Looking for anyone who may know or is researching the HAIMBERG family >from Paris.

Emile, Malvina (BURUKOVICI)Raymond, Fanny (SEGAL) Jannine (MALAGANURE)

Marilyn Sheinberg
Pennsylvania
USA


French SIG #France HAIMBERG #france

msheinberg@...
 

Looking for anyone who may know or is researching the HAIMBERG family >from Paris.

Emile, Malvina (BURUKOVICI)Raymond, Fanny (SEGAL) Jannine (MALAGANURE)

Marilyn Sheinberg
Pennsylvania
USA