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Goldberg/Garbarski -N.Y -needle in a haystack! #general

maurgold <maurgold@...>
 

In twenty two years searching these elusive GOLDBERG/GARBARSKI's do not fit
into into any research group in operation today. This will be my last
attempt before giving it away.

I have a GOLDBERG who was either Myer Isaac, Jacob Isaac or plain old Isaac.
Along with his wife Reva/Rachel settled in Brooklyn between 1899? and 1906
from Sheffield, Yorkshire. He went first but no trace of him in the E.I.R.
They had 7 children - Isaac, Anna/Annie, Sarah, Solomon/Sols, Diana, Philip
and Lena. The last six born in Sheffield between 1882 and 1896.

Jacob/Isaac etc. had a brother Philip who migrated to Melbourne in 1899 and
a sister Riva/Rachel Leah who married an Isaac/Isador Feitelberg whoes
family migrated to Cape Town, S.Africa around the same time - also from
Sheffield.

Maureen Goldberg.....Melb.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Goldberg/Garbarski -N.Y -needle in a haystack! #general

maurgold <maurgold@...>
 

In twenty two years searching these elusive GOLDBERG/GARBARSKI's do not fit
into into any research group in operation today. This will be my last
attempt before giving it away.

I have a GOLDBERG who was either Myer Isaac, Jacob Isaac or plain old Isaac.
Along with his wife Reva/Rachel settled in Brooklyn between 1899? and 1906
from Sheffield, Yorkshire. He went first but no trace of him in the E.I.R.
They had 7 children - Isaac, Anna/Annie, Sarah, Solomon/Sols, Diana, Philip
and Lena. The last six born in Sheffield between 1882 and 1896.

Jacob/Isaac etc. had a brother Philip who migrated to Melbourne in 1899 and
a sister Riva/Rachel Leah who married an Isaac/Isador Feitelberg whoes
family migrated to Cape Town, S.Africa around the same time - also from
Sheffield.

Maureen Goldberg.....Melb.


Hebrew headstone translation, please. #general

BOBBY FURST <bobby1st@...>
 

I would appreciate it if someone could please translate the Hebrew on
two USA headstones at viewmate locations:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3000
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3001

Thank you,
Bobby Furst
bobby1st@sprynet.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew headstone translation, please. #general

BOBBY FURST <bobby1st@...>
 

I would appreciate it if someone could please translate the Hebrew on
two USA headstones at viewmate locations:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3000
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3001

Thank you,
Bobby Furst
bobby1st@sprynet.com


German Writing Translation Request #general

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi! Could anyone please translate the German in this
Galician record? It's a death record >from Drohobycz
from 1879 for Chaje Diene Wegner, my
g-g-g-grandmother?

It's on this webpage:

http://www.geocities.com/mark_j1_2000/Genealogy.html

Please respond privately.

Thanks!!

===
DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


Re: Two searchable cemetery databases for Austria? #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Group,

Tom Weiss asked if any had gotten the Schalom database to work.

I used the link that Tom posted and had no problems with it. There is one
"hitch" though. In order to use the database one has to 'register' for the
forum----various message boards. Well, I registered, clicked on
database.......and then got a screen that told me it was not available at
this time. It was probably down for maintenance.

There are links to several cemetaries with photos.

Initially, anyone accessing the database can make 10 free inquiries. After
that there are various levels of accessibility, but I could not find this area.

There is a "Link" section with many, many related links that looked
interesting.

I'll give the database another try in a couple of days. In the meantime, I
had no problems navigating the site.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen German Writing Translation Request #general

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi! Could anyone please translate the German in this
Galician record? It's a death record >from Drohobycz
from 1879 for Chaje Diene Wegner, my
g-g-g-grandmother?

It's on this webpage:

http://www.geocities.com/mark_j1_2000/Genealogy.html

Please respond privately.

Thanks!!

===
DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Two searchable cemetery databases for Austria? #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Group,

Tom Weiss asked if any had gotten the Schalom database to work.

I used the link that Tom posted and had no problems with it. There is one
"hitch" though. In order to use the database one has to 'register' for the
forum----various message boards. Well, I registered, clicked on
database.......and then got a screen that told me it was not available at
this time. It was probably down for maintenance.

There are links to several cemetaries with photos.

Initially, anyone accessing the database can make 10 free inquiries. After
that there are various levels of accessibility, but I could not find this area.

There is a "Link" section with many, many related links that looked
interesting.

I'll give the database another try in a couple of days. In the meantime, I
had no problems navigating the site.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Benjamin FARFEL at Ellis Island or other port - dead end, suggestions wanted #general

Steinsteve@...
 

I have been looking for my wife's grandfather's immigration for 25 years,
and unfortunately, EIDB and Steve Morse did not help. Here's what I have
documented >from various other sources, including his naturalization papers,
marriage license, and/or passport application:

1. His name when he was born in Nesvizh, Poland (now Belarus) was Benjamin
Farfel in the mid-1880's (exact year in discrepancy among documents)

2. At some point, probably after his immigration, he changed his surname to
Fine >from Farfel

3. Parents and siblings never came to US; most likely he travelled alone or
with another relative

4. His naturalization papers (both the 1910 declaration and the 1917
petition) say he came on or about July 10, 1901; the declaration says he
came >from Liverpool to New York on ship "unknown"

5. His 1922 passport application (he travelled back to Russia some time
between 1923 and 1925) indicates that he came in July 1901 sailing >from "Canada"

6. He lived on the Lower East Side first, then Borough Park. Never, to my
knowledge, lived outside NYC. Highly unlikely to have entered through
another East Coast port such as Boston or Baltimore.

7. Owned his own dry goods store in Brooklyn.

8. At some point, either on his initial trip or more likely a later trip, he
appears to have smuggled jewelry into the US containing about $100K or more
(current value) worth of diamonds and emeralds, meaning he had reason to
avoid leaving a paper trail

I have tried the following:
1. NARA index for both Fine and Farfel
2. EIDB/Morse - every immigrant >from Nesvizh or town names that look like it
3. EIDB/Morse - Every immigrant with the name Farfel or Fine
4. EIDB/Morse - All Farfel D-M soundex matches
5. St. Albans indices for 1900 through 1902
6. Every line of every ship manifest for ships arriving at Ellis Island in
July 1901

I would appreciate any light-bulb revelations or ideas you may have. Feel
free to ask follow-up questions, I have more information.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Benjamin FARFEL at Ellis Island or other port - dead end, suggestions wanted #general

Steinsteve@...
 

I have been looking for my wife's grandfather's immigration for 25 years,
and unfortunately, EIDB and Steve Morse did not help. Here's what I have
documented >from various other sources, including his naturalization papers,
marriage license, and/or passport application:

1. His name when he was born in Nesvizh, Poland (now Belarus) was Benjamin
Farfel in the mid-1880's (exact year in discrepancy among documents)

2. At some point, probably after his immigration, he changed his surname to
Fine >from Farfel

3. Parents and siblings never came to US; most likely he travelled alone or
with another relative

4. His naturalization papers (both the 1910 declaration and the 1917
petition) say he came on or about July 10, 1901; the declaration says he
came >from Liverpool to New York on ship "unknown"

5. His 1922 passport application (he travelled back to Russia some time
between 1923 and 1925) indicates that he came in July 1901 sailing >from "Canada"

6. He lived on the Lower East Side first, then Borough Park. Never, to my
knowledge, lived outside NYC. Highly unlikely to have entered through
another East Coast port such as Boston or Baltimore.

7. Owned his own dry goods store in Brooklyn.

8. At some point, either on his initial trip or more likely a later trip, he
appears to have smuggled jewelry into the US containing about $100K or more
(current value) worth of diamonds and emeralds, meaning he had reason to
avoid leaving a paper trail

I have tried the following:
1. NARA index for both Fine and Farfel
2. EIDB/Morse - every immigrant >from Nesvizh or town names that look like it
3. EIDB/Morse - Every immigrant with the name Farfel or Fine
4. EIDB/Morse - All Farfel D-M soundex matches
5. St. Albans indices for 1900 through 1902
6. Every line of every ship manifest for ships arriving at Ellis Island in
July 1901

I would appreciate any light-bulb revelations or ideas you may have. Feel
free to ask follow-up questions, I have more information.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA


AHAVAT SCHOLOM TEMPLE Ligonier, Indiana - ACKERMAN & LOESER #usa

shil_haif@...
 

Hello! I just joined the EA SIG because I have recently visited friends
in Indiana who took me to a small town by the name of Ligonier.

There is a temple there by the name of AHAVAT SCHOLOM TEMPLE built in 1889
and now is a museum as no Jews live in this town anymore but there was once
a vibrant Jewish community that vanished.

I have met even the man in charge of this tiny museum who is a non-Jew a
PhD and we saw records, it was fascinating I do have a post card showing
the temple/museum I can scan it if anyone wants.

I visited the cemetery and found two graves one near the other with the
following names LOESER and ACKERMAN. This was quite a shock for me as my
research for the origin of the my ACKERMANN family ended at the beginning
of 1800 with the information that the ACKERMANN's were previously LOESER
(or LOSSER or any other form) and that was as far as I got.

If any of the members of the EA sig have any information about
those families in LIGONIER, I would appreciate if you contact me at the
following e-mail: ngillath@hotmail.com

Nurit Gillath Haifa, Israel ngillath@hotmail.com


Early American SIG #USA AHAVAT SCHOLOM TEMPLE Ligonier, Indiana - ACKERMAN & LOESER #usa

shil_haif@...
 

Hello! I just joined the EA SIG because I have recently visited friends
in Indiana who took me to a small town by the name of Ligonier.

There is a temple there by the name of AHAVAT SCHOLOM TEMPLE built in 1889
and now is a museum as no Jews live in this town anymore but there was once
a vibrant Jewish community that vanished.

I have met even the man in charge of this tiny museum who is a non-Jew a
PhD and we saw records, it was fascinating I do have a post card showing
the temple/museum I can scan it if anyone wants.

I visited the cemetery and found two graves one near the other with the
following names LOESER and ACKERMAN. This was quite a shock for me as my
research for the origin of the my ACKERMANN family ended at the beginning
of 1800 with the information that the ACKERMANN's were previously LOESER
(or LOSSER or any other form) and that was as far as I got.

If any of the members of the EA sig have any information about
those families in LIGONIER, I would appreciate if you contact me at the
following e-mail: ngillath@hotmail.com

Nurit Gillath Haifa, Israel ngillath@hotmail.com


Re: Moskovitz #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

An additional spelling >from Bekescsaba, in the Jewish Census >from the
town in April 1944 there were 3 Moskovics in the Neolog community and 7
Moskovits in the Orthodox community. And in Stutthof (with the 27.
September 1944 transport there were 2 Moskovits and 1 Moskowicz women.
In Switzerland one Moskovic, 3 Moskovitz and one Moskovitch is listed in
the Phonebook

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Eli Rohn schrieb:

Leslie, This last name can also be written Moskovic, yet pronounced
> the same as Moskovitz. Good luck, Eli Rohn Always interested in
> JACHZEL, BUCBINDER, ROSENBAUM (Bohemia-Moravia) GLUCKSTADT (Hamburg,
> Germany)
>
> Moderator VK: My paternal grandmother was a MOSKOVITS (yet another
> spelling that was common in Ung and Zemplen). When the family came
> to the US they changed the spelling to MOSKOWITZ.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Eloedfamily@aol.com
> [mailto:Eloedfamily@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:23 PM
> To: H-SIG Subject: [h-sig] Moskovitz


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Moskovitz #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

An additional spelling >from Bekescsaba, in the Jewish Census >from the
town in April 1944 there were 3 Moskovics in the Neolog community and 7
Moskovits in the Orthodox community. And in Stutthof (with the 27.
September 1944 transport there were 2 Moskovits and 1 Moskowicz women.
In Switzerland one Moskovic, 3 Moskovitz and one Moskovitch is listed in
the Phonebook

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Eli Rohn schrieb:

Leslie, This last name can also be written Moskovic, yet pronounced
> the same as Moskovitz. Good luck, Eli Rohn Always interested in
> JACHZEL, BUCBINDER, ROSENBAUM (Bohemia-Moravia) GLUCKSTADT (Hamburg,
> Germany)
>
> Moderator VK: My paternal grandmother was a MOSKOVITS (yet another
> spelling that was common in Ung and Zemplen). When the family came
> to the US they changed the spelling to MOSKOWITZ.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Eloedfamily@aol.com
> [mailto:Eloedfamily@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:23 PM
> To: H-SIG Subject: [h-sig] Moskovitz


Re: Transcarpathia visit question #hungary

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Here is some general information about traveling to and >from Transcarpathia:

I visited the Transcarpathian towns of Uzhgorod, Munkacs, Szurte and Chop
(Csap) in the summer of 2002.

The visa needs to be ordered >from a Ukrainian Embassy, and I chose to send
my materials to the one in Washington, D.C., although there is also one in
New York. This is now a fairly simple process--you do not need to include
any official "letters of invitation" or proof that you are using a Ukrainan
travel service, however you should have confirmed hotel reservations in the
cities you are visiting, and include a copy of the reservation confirmation.
(Usually the hotel will also type or email you a letter confirming that you
are staying with them.) You must also send your U.S. passport with your
application--and it cannot have an expiration date sooner than six months
after you are traveling, so it is important to check those dates and renew
early if you have to--and if you are going to need your passport for an
upcoming trip, don't send it in for the visa as it may not get back to you
for a month. I paid an expedite fee to the consulate and received my visa
back in less than three weeks.

I entered Ukraine by bus >from Poland because I was traveling with a group,
and the border crossings can be quite long. If you have a driver/guide
taking you in--like Alex Dunai as an example--often the crossing can be
"negotiated" more quickly. It is also possible to fly on Lot airlines
through Warsaw and connect with a flight to Lvov, certainly a city worth
seeing. >from Lvov it is a pleasant drive (of a few hours) over the
Carpathian mountains to the towns of Transcarpathia. Uzhgorod has some
decent guest-house hotels to choose >from and is a good base for visiting the
smaller towns within an hour's drive. With Alex as my guide there, we
eventually crossed over the border (at Csap)into Hungary, and in that case
we got through in less than twenty minutes, while trucks were lined up two
miles behind us, waiting! >from there it was a short drive to the Szabolcs
and Bereg County Hungarian towns I wanted to visit, and I stayed in
Nyriegyhaza as my base.

Keep in mind that there are many Transcarpathian towns just across the
border >from Ukraine in Slovakia that you also might want to see. The only
problem is that, while U.S. citizens do not need visas to enter Slovakia or
Hungary, Ukranian citizens do, so Alex could not take me there when it
occured as a last-minute idea. With advance planning, of course, your guide
could arrange his visa ahead of time.

Also keep in mind that as of right now the archives in Uzhgorod, along with
the Civil Records Office/Town Hall (ZAGS) are not friendly places for
researchers. Based on personal experience--and on Alex Dunai's talk at the
IAJGS conference, it is close to impossible to get a look at any records or
documents in either of these places and, unfortunately, many old
(1840s-onward) Uzhgorod and environs metrical records are still housed at
the civil records office and not the archives, so they are treated as if
they are less than 100--year old records and access to see the books is
denied. However, IF you know the exact date of the birth/marriage/death and
the names of the parties involved, the ZAGS personnel may look up the
records and make an extract (not a copy) for you. No such luck, however,
will occur at the archives headed by Mr. Delegan.

Miriam Weiner's website: hhhtp://www.rtrfoundation.org, lists
theseTranscarpathian records and their different locations.

If you do visit the smaller town halls in some of the villages and get to
speak to the mayors, they tend to be quite friendly, and while they usually
have no vital records they should have older land maps which may prove
useful in your research. There is also a New York-based group, the Heritage
Foundation for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries, actively doing
cemetery restorations in several of these Transcarpathian towns, so you may
be successful in locating headstones of family members.

Good luck...

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Transcarpathia visit question #hungary

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Here is some general information about traveling to and >from Transcarpathia:

I visited the Transcarpathian towns of Uzhgorod, Munkacs, Szurte and Chop
(Csap) in the summer of 2002.

The visa needs to be ordered >from a Ukrainian Embassy, and I chose to send
my materials to the one in Washington, D.C., although there is also one in
New York. This is now a fairly simple process--you do not need to include
any official "letters of invitation" or proof that you are using a Ukrainan
travel service, however you should have confirmed hotel reservations in the
cities you are visiting, and include a copy of the reservation confirmation.
(Usually the hotel will also type or email you a letter confirming that you
are staying with them.) You must also send your U.S. passport with your
application--and it cannot have an expiration date sooner than six months
after you are traveling, so it is important to check those dates and renew
early if you have to--and if you are going to need your passport for an
upcoming trip, don't send it in for the visa as it may not get back to you
for a month. I paid an expedite fee to the consulate and received my visa
back in less than three weeks.

I entered Ukraine by bus >from Poland because I was traveling with a group,
and the border crossings can be quite long. If you have a driver/guide
taking you in--like Alex Dunai as an example--often the crossing can be
"negotiated" more quickly. It is also possible to fly on Lot airlines
through Warsaw and connect with a flight to Lvov, certainly a city worth
seeing. >from Lvov it is a pleasant drive (of a few hours) over the
Carpathian mountains to the towns of Transcarpathia. Uzhgorod has some
decent guest-house hotels to choose >from and is a good base for visiting the
smaller towns within an hour's drive. With Alex as my guide there, we
eventually crossed over the border (at Csap)into Hungary, and in that case
we got through in less than twenty minutes, while trucks were lined up two
miles behind us, waiting! >from there it was a short drive to the Szabolcs
and Bereg County Hungarian towns I wanted to visit, and I stayed in
Nyriegyhaza as my base.

Keep in mind that there are many Transcarpathian towns just across the
border >from Ukraine in Slovakia that you also might want to see. The only
problem is that, while U.S. citizens do not need visas to enter Slovakia or
Hungary, Ukranian citizens do, so Alex could not take me there when it
occured as a last-minute idea. With advance planning, of course, your guide
could arrange his visa ahead of time.

Also keep in mind that as of right now the archives in Uzhgorod, along with
the Civil Records Office/Town Hall (ZAGS) are not friendly places for
researchers. Based on personal experience--and on Alex Dunai's talk at the
IAJGS conference, it is close to impossible to get a look at any records or
documents in either of these places and, unfortunately, many old
(1840s-onward) Uzhgorod and environs metrical records are still housed at
the civil records office and not the archives, so they are treated as if
they are less than 100--year old records and access to see the books is
denied. However, IF you know the exact date of the birth/marriage/death and
the names of the parties involved, the ZAGS personnel may look up the
records and make an extract (not a copy) for you. No such luck, however,
will occur at the archives headed by Mr. Delegan.

Miriam Weiner's website: hhhtp://www.rtrfoundation.org, lists
theseTranscarpathian records and their different locations.

If you do visit the smaller town halls in some of the villages and get to
speak to the mayors, they tend to be quite friendly, and while they usually
have no vital records they should have older land maps which may prove
useful in your research. There is also a New York-based group, the Heritage
Foundation for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries, actively doing
cemetery restorations in several of these Transcarpathian towns, so you may
be successful in locating headstones of family members.

Good luck...

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Looking for a Town: Rakscho #hungary

Solomon <ariksolo@...>
 

Hi,

In a letter I received >from the Mauthausen museum regarding one of my
g-grandparents, a town of birth is mentioned named RAKSCHO. The letter
contains an original excerpt >from the prisoners lists where the town is
listed just the same.
I know that some of his children were born in VAMA (VAMFALU), SATU MARE
county.
Maybe it is a village somewhere near by.


Any help will be appreciated,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel

Moderator VK: You may be looking for Raksa (Racsia), which was in the Szinyer-Varalja district of Szatmar megye between Vamfalu and Avasujvaros, where my grandmother Zlata BERKOVICS was born.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for a Town: Rakscho #hungary

Solomon <ariksolo@...>
 

Hi,

In a letter I received >from the Mauthausen museum regarding one of my
g-grandparents, a town of birth is mentioned named RAKSCHO. The letter
contains an original excerpt >from the prisoners lists where the town is
listed just the same.
I know that some of his children were born in VAMA (VAMFALU), SATU MARE
county.
Maybe it is a village somewhere near by.


Any help will be appreciated,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel

Moderator VK: You may be looking for Raksa (Racsia), which was in the Szinyer-Varalja district of Szatmar megye between Vamfalu and Avasujvaros, where my grandmother Zlata BERKOVICS was born.


translation of note about Isak Morgenstern #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

Hi all,

I've had some luck with my Morgernsterns in Murska
Sobota. I have found my gf's birth record and some
siblings.

This note currently posted on viewmate is concerning
his brother Isak -- possibly Isakusz (it is hard to
read the writing -- especially the last three
letters.)

Anyway this is the link to the note:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate (in the To View
section)

- as file - VM3009

Thank you for your help!

Denise


Change of addresses #hungary

IsraelP <isai8v10@...>
 

I have finally succumbed to the spam and changed my email addresses.

The beginning of Israel@pikholz.org has been replaced by IsraelP and the
beginning of zach4v6@actcom.co.il has been replaced by isai8v10

Please update your address books.

(Yes, I have fixed my subscriptions and my JGFF information. I'm working on the
rest.)

Israel Pickholtz