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THANKS Renee! #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

I really enjoyed reading Renee Steinig's note to Gersig re finding the
Greimann family. It just goes to show how a little creativity can go a
long way!

I've found that that is exactly what I love about this hobby.
The search, the investigation work, the puzzle making... that's what
sends the adreneline flowing.

I'm sure that her list of search efforts has opened the eyes of many
researchers who never thought of those avenues for help.
Often the answer is right under our nose (or fingertips).

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel ealevygen@hotmail.com

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Re: Two searchable cemetery databases for Austria? #general

m.steinberg@...
 

Hi All,

In response to the e-mail of Tom Weiss regarding the Schalom database (which
can be found at http://www.schalom.at/ ).

I just went to the Schalom database and there is a message posted saying :

"October, 22nd 2003
Database is temporary under maintenance and closed!
You will be noticed *here* in this Forum when available again."

This might explain the problems people are having with the database.


All the best,
Moshe Steinberg
Vancouver Canada

STEINBERG, GLAZER, HUDES
Hrubieszow
SANG, NAGLER, FISCHER(FISZER, FISCHER), HELMAN
Zaleshchiki, Borszczow, New York City, Israel
GRANIRER, GRANIERER, SALCMAN, ARONOWICZ, KRONENFELD, FUHRMAN,GOLDSCMIDT,
SANDLER, Czernowitz, Israel, USA


German SIG #Germany THANKS Renee! #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

I really enjoyed reading Renee Steinig's note to Gersig re finding the
Greimann family. It just goes to show how a little creativity can go a
long way!

I've found that that is exactly what I love about this hobby.
The search, the investigation work, the puzzle making... that's what
sends the adreneline flowing.

I'm sure that her list of search efforts has opened the eyes of many
researchers who never thought of those avenues for help.
Often the answer is right under our nose (or fingertips).

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel ealevygen@hotmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: With a small contribution to JewishGen you can inscribe
a message of THANKS on the "Wall of Honor":
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors0.html
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Two searchable cemetery databases for Austria? #general

m.steinberg@...
 

Hi All,

In response to the e-mail of Tom Weiss regarding the Schalom database (which
can be found at http://www.schalom.at/ ).

I just went to the Schalom database and there is a message posted saying :

"October, 22nd 2003
Database is temporary under maintenance and closed!
You will be noticed *here* in this Forum when available again."

This might explain the problems people are having with the database.


All the best,
Moshe Steinberg
Vancouver Canada

STEINBERG, GLAZER, HUDES
Hrubieszow
SANG, NAGLER, FISCHER(FISZER, FISCHER), HELMAN
Zaleshchiki, Borszczow, New York City, Israel
GRANIRER, GRANIERER, SALCMAN, ARONOWICZ, KRONENFELD, FUHRMAN,GOLDSCMIDT,
SANDLER, Czernowitz, Israel, USA


Re: San Diego County, California Registrar-Recorder look-up #general

Bobmar37
 

Earlier this summer I sent for a 1939 L.A. death certificate to Sacramento.
About a week later I read that you had to send an affadavit (or whatever)
which I had not done. I recently got exactly what I asked for, officially
embossed. Maybe they thought since I asked for such an old death, that I
had no intention of using his identity.

However, some of what I was looking for was not listed (DOB was simply put
as "unknown", for example).

Marian Price
Rensselaer, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: San Diego County, California Registrar-Recorder look-up #general

Bobmar37
 

Earlier this summer I sent for a 1939 L.A. death certificate to Sacramento.
About a week later I read that you had to send an affadavit (or whatever)
which I had not done. I recently got exactly what I asked for, officially
embossed. Maybe they thought since I asked for such an old death, that I
had no intention of using his identity.

However, some of what I was looking for was not listed (DOB was simply put
as "unknown", for example).

Marian Price
Rensselaer, NY


Re: Alabama-Synagogue's Birmingham 1920's question #general

Ginger Brook <creative@...>
 

Hi - my husband is the editor of the Deep South Jewish Voice
(www.deepsouthjewishvoice.com) and can give you just about any kind of
information you need on congregations/Jewish history in Alabama and
Mississippi. You can email me - creative@deepsouthjewishvoice.com -
with your family history question and I will ask him to answer.
Thanks


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Alabama-Synagogue's Birmingham 1920's question #general

Ginger Brook <creative@...>
 

Hi - my husband is the editor of the Deep South Jewish Voice
(www.deepsouthjewishvoice.com) and can give you just about any kind of
information you need on congregations/Jewish history in Alabama and
Mississippi. You can email me - creative@deepsouthjewishvoice.com -
with your family history question and I will ask him to answer.
Thanks


Re: R' EDELSTEIN, Warsaw-1860 #rabbinic

Chaim freedman
 

On 2003.10.22, Jocelyn Harrold <gharrold@telusplanet.net> wrote:

I have received information, thanks to Dr. Yehuda Klausner, that
Rabbi David Shlomo EDELSTEIN died in Warszaw 24 Kislev 5633 (1872).
Is there any more genealogical information that I can "glean" from
other sources
Try "Nakhalat Olamin" (Yevnin, Shmuel, Warsaw 1882). It may have a
record of the tombstone and some biographical information

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
mailto:chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' EDELSTEIN, Warsaw-1860 #rabbinic

Chaim freedman
 

On 2003.10.22, Jocelyn Harrold <gharrold@telusplanet.net> wrote:

I have received information, thanks to Dr. Yehuda Klausner, that
Rabbi David Shlomo EDELSTEIN died in Warszaw 24 Kislev 5633 (1872).
Is there any more genealogical information that I can "glean" from
other sources
Try "Nakhalat Olamin" (Yevnin, Shmuel, Warsaw 1882). It may have a
record of the tombstone and some biographical information

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
mailto:chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Re: New on Keidan list #lithuania

Myra Gordon <m.gordon@...>
 

Well done, Harold, you must be delighted. I am in the process of trying to
find out more about my roots .....

Myra Gordon;


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: New on Keidan list #lithuania

Myra Gordon <m.gordon@...>
 

Well done, Harold, you must be delighted. I am in the process of trying to
find out more about my roots .....

Myra Gordon;


How can I find more about: LEBOVICS Chaim and Moric? #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

- LEBOVITS Chaim , Marmaros Soofalva 27/623056, found in 1828 Hungarian
Property Tax Census?

- LEBOVICS Moric lived 66 y Ukraine Munkacs, Row 10 Plot 27, found in
Transcarpathia Burial Record ? with #14859.

Thank you

Catherine Poscher


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How can I find more about: LEBOVICS Chaim and Moric? #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

- LEBOVITS Chaim , Marmaros Soofalva 27/623056, found in 1828 Hungarian
Property Tax Census?

- LEBOVICS Moric lived 66 y Ukraine Munkacs, Row 10 Plot 27, found in
Transcarpathia Burial Record ? with #14859.

Thank you

Catherine Poscher


MENDELSON Salomone, Dov MUZSKAL, #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

- I've found MENDELSON Salomo and Salomone in Gyor Szigeti Temeto.
Who knows more about these persons?
I'm searching for MENDELSON Salomo and Salomone, who lived in Budapest
Amerikaiut, about for 20 years ago.

- Who can tell me something about Dov. MUSZKAL, who lived 5 Sahal St in
Tel Aviv in Israel, for about 20 years ago?

Thank you!

Catherine Poscher


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MENDELSON Salomone, Dov MUZSKAL, #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

- I've found MENDELSON Salomo and Salomone in Gyor Szigeti Temeto.
Who knows more about these persons?
I'm searching for MENDELSON Salomo and Salomone, who lived in Budapest
Amerikaiut, about for 20 years ago.

- Who can tell me something about Dov. MUSZKAL, who lived 5 Sahal St in
Tel Aviv in Israel, for about 20 years ago?

Thank you!

Catherine Poscher


Coroners certificate on Personal record from Theresienstadt #general

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

In a message dated 10/23/03 12:41:34 AM, jewishgen digest: October 22, 2003,
X-Message-Number: 13, Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@iinet.net.au> writes:

<< I have just received >from Beit Theresienstadt in Israel a copy of a
personal record of my grandmother, who died in Ghetto Theresienstadt in
1942. The record contains an entry for a Coroner certificate followed by a
reference number. I find it difficult to believe that the inmates would have
had post mortems conducted on them. >>

Your skepticism is well justified. There were no post-mortems. As a matter
of actual fact: even the dates listed are not always accurate. The reporting
inmates [building elder, room elder, barracks elder] often had the corpse
removed but did not list the death accurately in order to collect the food
rations of the deceased fellow inmate for themselves.
Charlotte Opfermann
Theresienstadt inmate prisoner number XII/5-11
1943-1945


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Coroners certificate on Personal record from Theresienstadt #general

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

In a message dated 10/23/03 12:41:34 AM, jewishgen digest: October 22, 2003,
X-Message-Number: 13, Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@iinet.net.au> writes:

<< I have just received >from Beit Theresienstadt in Israel a copy of a
personal record of my grandmother, who died in Ghetto Theresienstadt in
1942. The record contains an entry for a Coroner certificate followed by a
reference number. I find it difficult to believe that the inmates would have
had post mortems conducted on them. >>

Your skepticism is well justified. There were no post-mortems. As a matter
of actual fact: even the dates listed are not always accurate. The reporting
inmates [building elder, room elder, barracks elder] often had the corpse
removed but did not list the death accurately in order to collect the food
rations of the deceased fellow inmate for themselves.
Charlotte Opfermann
Theresienstadt inmate prisoner number XII/5-11
1943-1945


Re: R' Aryeh Leib BERNSTEIN #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2003.10.21, A. Marmorstein <Mehadrin@aol.com> wrote:

In Kamelhar's biography of the Nodah Biyehuda (if my memory serves
me well) it is explained that when the Duchy of Galicia was absorbed
by Austria at the time of the first partition of Poland, there was
an attempt to centralize religion and to appoint a Chief Rabbi...
Eventually, due to the feuding about this issue, the plan was
dropped. Perhaps this was in fact the same Rabbi BERNSTEIN.
Prompted by the contribution sent in by R' A. Marmorstein, I would
like to correct and amplify an earlier posting of mine about this
18th Century Galician Rabbi Aryeh Leib BERNSTEIN.

Firstly a brief historical note. When, in 1772, Galicia came under
Austrian rule the Empress Maria Theresa decided that the Province
should have a chief Rabbi. There were several contenders including
R' Yechezkel Landau of Prague. The appointee, in 1776 was the above
R' BERNSTEIN. He was the first and last Chief Rabbi of Galicia,
having retained his position until 1786, when the whole arrangement
folded.

Who was Rabbi BERNSTEIN? Besides his eminence in Torah, he had very
eminent forbears and descendants. He possessed great wealth and his
life was not untroubled.

His father, Yissochor Berish was a grandson (via his mother) of
R' Yitzchok BABAD, the last being a grandson of the R' Heschel of
Krakow. This connection gave him a cousinship to the LANDAUs.

He was born around 1690 and grew up in Brody. There was a great
scandal about his wife, who was suspected of adultery with more than
one lover. This cause celebre led to rumpus and a long responsum in
the Noda Beyehuda, regarding which even the Baal Shem Tov was
involved.

Details of his marriage and (some) of his descendants can be found
in Neil Rosenstein's "Unbroken Chain" (2nd Ed. pp.983/4).

More details of his turbulent life (his divorce), his ancestry and
family can be found in the following Hebrew works:
(1) Galician Ency by Meir Wunder Vol. 1
(2) Kisvei Geonim by Horowitz
(3) Toldos Brody by Gelber
(4) Bio. of the Noda Beyehuda (above R' LANDAU) by Kammelhar.

Meir Wunder also gives a reference to an article in the periodical
Sinai, which I do not possess.

There is a lot more to write but this is a Genealogical not a
biographical forum.

Leslie Reich


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Aryeh Leib BERNSTEIN #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2003.10.21, A. Marmorstein <Mehadrin@aol.com> wrote:

In Kamelhar's biography of the Nodah Biyehuda (if my memory serves
me well) it is explained that when the Duchy of Galicia was absorbed
by Austria at the time of the first partition of Poland, there was
an attempt to centralize religion and to appoint a Chief Rabbi...
Eventually, due to the feuding about this issue, the plan was
dropped. Perhaps this was in fact the same Rabbi BERNSTEIN.
Prompted by the contribution sent in by R' A. Marmorstein, I would
like to correct and amplify an earlier posting of mine about this
18th Century Galician Rabbi Aryeh Leib BERNSTEIN.

Firstly a brief historical note. When, in 1772, Galicia came under
Austrian rule the Empress Maria Theresa decided that the Province
should have a chief Rabbi. There were several contenders including
R' Yechezkel Landau of Prague. The appointee, in 1776 was the above
R' BERNSTEIN. He was the first and last Chief Rabbi of Galicia,
having retained his position until 1786, when the whole arrangement
folded.

Who was Rabbi BERNSTEIN? Besides his eminence in Torah, he had very
eminent forbears and descendants. He possessed great wealth and his
life was not untroubled.

His father, Yissochor Berish was a grandson (via his mother) of
R' Yitzchok BABAD, the last being a grandson of the R' Heschel of
Krakow. This connection gave him a cousinship to the LANDAUs.

He was born around 1690 and grew up in Brody. There was a great
scandal about his wife, who was suspected of adultery with more than
one lover. This cause celebre led to rumpus and a long responsum in
the Noda Beyehuda, regarding which even the Baal Shem Tov was
involved.

Details of his marriage and (some) of his descendants can be found
in Neil Rosenstein's "Unbroken Chain" (2nd Ed. pp.983/4).

More details of his turbulent life (his divorce), his ancestry and
family can be found in the following Hebrew works:
(1) Galician Ency by Meir Wunder Vol. 1
(2) Kisvei Geonim by Horowitz
(3) Toldos Brody by Gelber
(4) Bio. of the Noda Beyehuda (above R' LANDAU) by Kammelhar.

Meir Wunder also gives a reference to an article in the periodical
Sinai, which I do not possess.

There is a lot more to write but this is a Genealogical not a
biographical forum.

Leslie Reich