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Hamburg lists #general

Kaye Paletz <kpaletz@...>
 

I used the Hamburg Immigration data base and found a reference to my
great-grandmother who was listed as passenger 99. When I went to the
correct ship list for the correct data, I could not find anything like a
passenger #99. I cannot seem to find her anywhere unless she was on the one
unreadable page. Any suggestions?

Kaye Paletz
new jersey
kpaletz@njstatelib.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hamburg lists #general

Kaye Paletz <kpaletz@...>
 

I used the Hamburg Immigration data base and found a reference to my
great-grandmother who was listed as passenger 99. When I went to the
correct ship list for the correct data, I could not find anything like a
passenger #99. I cannot seem to find her anywhere unless she was on the one
unreadable page. Any suggestions?

Kaye Paletz
new jersey
kpaletz@njstatelib.org


Announcement of Expansion of Shopping Basket System---ordering records #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Mark Halpern, Director of the PSA Order Processing Center, posted the
following message about the new order processing system for records >from the
Polish State Archives (PSA). The new system that has been tested in two
archives for the past several months has now been expanded to others,
including Lodz. This will make ordering records indexed by the PSA a lot
easier. Please read his post below.

Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm

*************
Ordering Records >from Polish State Archives - Expansion of JRI-Poland's New
System

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is very pleased to announce that agreement
has been reached with the Polish State Archives (PSA) to extend the new
online order processing system - the "Shopping Basket System" - to thirteen
additional Archives and their branches effective on November 4, 2003.

Since late last year, the JRI-Poland Order Processing Center has worked with
the State Archives in Bialystok and its Lomza branch testing a Shopping
Basket system for ordering copies of vital records indexed by JRI-Poland/PSA
Projects. This pilot project has been very successful and the system will
now be expanded to the following Archives and their branches.

AGAD - Central Archive of Historical Records
Bialystok
Lomza Branch
Czestochowa
Kalisz
Krakow
Lublin
Lodz
Poznan
Przemysl
Rzeszow
Siedlce
Suwalki
Warsaw
Grodzisk Mazowiecki Branch
Gora Kalwaria Branch
Lowicz Branch
Mlawa Branch
Pultusk Branch
Zamosc

We expect that the remaining Archives and branches, not part of the Shopping
Basket system as of November 4, 2003, will be added in early 2004. This
includes Kielce and its Pinczow, Sandomierz and Starachowice branches,
Piotrkow Trybunalski and its Tomaszow Mazowiecki branch, Plock and its
Leczycz branch, Radom, and Torun and its Wloclawek branch.

The system allows researchers to create a "Shopping Basket" for copies of
records to order by clicking on index entries in the results webpage of a
JRI-Poland database search. Orders can be saved and subsequently amended,
modified, or deleted. When a researcher is ready to order, payment can be
made by credit card (Visa or MasterCard) or US Dollar check or money order.
There is absolutely no danger that an order can be mistakenly placed while
online. At this time, researchers must mail in their order and payment for
the order to become official.

A Step-by-Step Tutorial of the system can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psabasketinst.htm.

Each record ordered will cost the researcher $10. However, there is a
minimum charge per branch of $15. (Therefore, if you order one record from
Lodz and one >from Pultusk, the total charge will be $30.) JRI-Poland will
receive researcher payments and arrange for periodic bank transfers in
Polish currency to each Polish Archive branch.

Here are a few of the major features of the Shopping Basket

system:

* Records of interest are selected online, creating an order. You simply
point and click on the desired record index and it is added to your shopping
basket. This only applies to records indexed as part of a PSA project.
Records indexed >from LDS microfilms will not be clickable and cannot be
ordered using this system.

* Your shopping basket can include orders >from more than one PSA Archive or
branch. Separate orders are automatically created for each branch.

* Researchers print and snail mail orders and payment to the JRI-Poland PSA
Order Processing Center in Merion Station, Pennsylvania, USA. A printable
form for credit card payment can be accessed by clicking a link on the Order
Form.

* The Order Processing Center electronically transmits the

order(s) to the Archive(s). Within 30 days each Archive will send copies by
registered or priority airmail directly to the researcher.

If you previously ordered records >from the AGAD Archives through the
JRI-Poland AGAD Order Center, you will now be using the Shopping Basket
System. All AGAD orders sent to the AGAD Order Center and postmarked
November 3, 2003 or before will be processed by the AGAD Order Center.
Orders postmarked November 4, 2003 or later will be returned to the
researcher for submission to the JRI-Poland PSA Order Processing Center
using the Shopping Basket system.

The current "Request for Quotation" system will be eliminated as of November
4, 2003. Actually, we suggest that researchers cease use of the Request for
Quotation system immediately. The objective of JRI-Poland and PSA is to have
only one ordering system that works efficiently for researchers. However,
some of the Archives and branches are not ready to join the shopping basket
system on November 4, 2003. These Archives and branches will be added to the
shopping basket system as soon as practical. Please be patient and hold your
orders for these Archives and branches until you see the announcement in
this forum pertaining to that branch.

We at JRI-Poland are excited to introduce this user-friendly system and we
thank the management of the Polish State Archives and their branches for
their cooperation and their enthusiastic role in the development of this
system.

Our appreciation is also extended to our many volunteers who have helped
make the JRI-Poland / PSA project a success and to all the researchers whose
generosity has made possible the remarkable growth of our database.

All of us at JRI-Poland wish you continued success in your research. We hope
the use of the Shopping Basket system will lead to many exciting discoveries
in the future.

On behalf of the Board of Directors,
Mark Halpern
Director, PSA Order Processing Center


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Announcement of Expansion of Shopping Basket System---ordering records #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Mark Halpern, Director of the PSA Order Processing Center, posted the
following message about the new order processing system for records >from the
Polish State Archives (PSA). The new system that has been tested in two
archives for the past several months has now been expanded to others,
including Lodz. This will make ordering records indexed by the PSA a lot
easier. Please read his post below.

Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm

*************
Ordering Records >from Polish State Archives - Expansion of JRI-Poland's New
System

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is very pleased to announce that agreement
has been reached with the Polish State Archives (PSA) to extend the new
online order processing system - the "Shopping Basket System" - to thirteen
additional Archives and their branches effective on November 4, 2003.

Since late last year, the JRI-Poland Order Processing Center has worked with
the State Archives in Bialystok and its Lomza branch testing a Shopping
Basket system for ordering copies of vital records indexed by JRI-Poland/PSA
Projects. This pilot project has been very successful and the system will
now be expanded to the following Archives and their branches.

AGAD - Central Archive of Historical Records
Bialystok
Lomza Branch
Czestochowa
Kalisz
Krakow
Lublin
Lodz
Poznan
Przemysl
Rzeszow
Siedlce
Suwalki
Warsaw
Grodzisk Mazowiecki Branch
Gora Kalwaria Branch
Lowicz Branch
Mlawa Branch
Pultusk Branch
Zamosc

We expect that the remaining Archives and branches, not part of the Shopping
Basket system as of November 4, 2003, will be added in early 2004. This
includes Kielce and its Pinczow, Sandomierz and Starachowice branches,
Piotrkow Trybunalski and its Tomaszow Mazowiecki branch, Plock and its
Leczycz branch, Radom, and Torun and its Wloclawek branch.

The system allows researchers to create a "Shopping Basket" for copies of
records to order by clicking on index entries in the results webpage of a
JRI-Poland database search. Orders can be saved and subsequently amended,
modified, or deleted. When a researcher is ready to order, payment can be
made by credit card (Visa or MasterCard) or US Dollar check or money order.
There is absolutely no danger that an order can be mistakenly placed while
online. At this time, researchers must mail in their order and payment for
the order to become official.

A Step-by-Step Tutorial of the system can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psabasketinst.htm.

Each record ordered will cost the researcher $10. However, there is a
minimum charge per branch of $15. (Therefore, if you order one record from
Lodz and one >from Pultusk, the total charge will be $30.) JRI-Poland will
receive researcher payments and arrange for periodic bank transfers in
Polish currency to each Polish Archive branch.

Here are a few of the major features of the Shopping Basket

system:

* Records of interest are selected online, creating an order. You simply
point and click on the desired record index and it is added to your shopping
basket. This only applies to records indexed as part of a PSA project.
Records indexed >from LDS microfilms will not be clickable and cannot be
ordered using this system.

* Your shopping basket can include orders >from more than one PSA Archive or
branch. Separate orders are automatically created for each branch.

* Researchers print and snail mail orders and payment to the JRI-Poland PSA
Order Processing Center in Merion Station, Pennsylvania, USA. A printable
form for credit card payment can be accessed by clicking a link on the Order
Form.

* The Order Processing Center electronically transmits the

order(s) to the Archive(s). Within 30 days each Archive will send copies by
registered or priority airmail directly to the researcher.

If you previously ordered records >from the AGAD Archives through the
JRI-Poland AGAD Order Center, you will now be using the Shopping Basket
System. All AGAD orders sent to the AGAD Order Center and postmarked
November 3, 2003 or before will be processed by the AGAD Order Center.
Orders postmarked November 4, 2003 or later will be returned to the
researcher for submission to the JRI-Poland PSA Order Processing Center
using the Shopping Basket system.

The current "Request for Quotation" system will be eliminated as of November
4, 2003. Actually, we suggest that researchers cease use of the Request for
Quotation system immediately. The objective of JRI-Poland and PSA is to have
only one ordering system that works efficiently for researchers. However,
some of the Archives and branches are not ready to join the shopping basket
system on November 4, 2003. These Archives and branches will be added to the
shopping basket system as soon as practical. Please be patient and hold your
orders for these Archives and branches until you see the announcement in
this forum pertaining to that branch.

We at JRI-Poland are excited to introduce this user-friendly system and we
thank the management of the Polish State Archives and their branches for
their cooperation and their enthusiastic role in the development of this
system.

Our appreciation is also extended to our many volunteers who have helped
make the JRI-Poland / PSA project a success and to all the researchers whose
generosity has made possible the remarkable growth of our database.

All of us at JRI-Poland wish you continued success in your research. We hope
the use of the Shopping Basket system will lead to many exciting discoveries
in the future.

On behalf of the Board of Directors,
Mark Halpern
Director, PSA Order Processing Center


SA Interest CD-ROM's #southafrica

Saul Issroff <shaul@...>
 

Heather McAllister and the Scribe Team has added the following CD-ROM'S:
The 1902 Voter's Roll and the Juta's 1900 directory should be of great
interest to us.
They will be working on putting some of the SA Jewry Books onto CD's in the
next year or so.

Saul Issroff


Voters' Roll for Cape Town 1902 - includes districts 1 to 6. This
publication contains names, occupations, addresses and the value of the
property. It also lists other properties of the voter in other districts.

South African Directory and Almanac of 1835 - includes Free Map of Cape
Town, Chronology of Remarkable occurrences >from 1652 to 1835. Military
Pensioners, Inhabitants of Cape Town & Green Point and much more...........

Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za
1805, 1829 and 1849 Cape Almanacs now on CD
The 1835 Almanac is now available !!
Also the Juta's Directory of 1900 which lists residents of Cape Town from
the City Bowl until Simonstown.
To view the catalogue go to www.genealogy.co.za/scribes_ink.html
Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society.html


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica SA Interest CD-ROM's #southafrica

Saul Issroff <shaul@...>
 

Heather McAllister and the Scribe Team has added the following CD-ROM'S:
The 1902 Voter's Roll and the Juta's 1900 directory should be of great
interest to us.
They will be working on putting some of the SA Jewry Books onto CD's in the
next year or so.

Saul Issroff


Voters' Roll for Cape Town 1902 - includes districts 1 to 6. This
publication contains names, occupations, addresses and the value of the
property. It also lists other properties of the voter in other districts.

South African Directory and Almanac of 1835 - includes Free Map of Cape
Town, Chronology of Remarkable occurrences >from 1652 to 1835. Military
Pensioners, Inhabitants of Cape Town & Green Point and much more...........

Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za
1805, 1829 and 1849 Cape Almanacs now on CD
The 1835 Almanac is now available !!
Also the Juta's Directory of 1900 which lists residents of Cape Town from
the City Bowl until Simonstown.
To view the catalogue go to www.genealogy.co.za/scribes_ink.html
Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society.html


Marriage records, Port Elizabeth #southafrica

Anne Budlender <annebud@...>
 

Do shul marriage records survive for Port Elizabeth for the period around
1905? I am trying to find out where and when my husband's grandparents,
Kasreal Budlender and Gertrude Mulholland married. They are both buried in
PE,but lived at various times in Uitenhage and possibly Cape Town.

Thank you,
Anne Budlender
Melbourne


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Marriage records, Port Elizabeth #southafrica

Anne Budlender <annebud@...>
 

Do shul marriage records survive for Port Elizabeth for the period around
1905? I am trying to find out where and when my husband's grandparents,
Kasreal Budlender and Gertrude Mulholland married. They are both buried in
PE,but lived at various times in Uitenhage and possibly Cape Town.

Thank you,
Anne Budlender
Melbourne


Re: When did Ashkenazim migrate to Romania? #romania

Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@...>
 

Folks,

I respectfully suggest that this is indeed a genealogical question ... the
answer to which I also would like to know.

If one works a family line back so far (say, to 1800 or so) and then hits a
dead-end with respect to records and other solid sources, one begins to
suspect the family moved into the area in question >from elsewhere. At this
point, migratory history becomes _very_ important and, when known, can lead
to added earlier family information being discovered in archives and
repositories in other places.

Regards,
Donna Dinberg
Librarian, Jewish Genealogy Society of Ottawa
Ottawa, ON Canada
E-mail: donna.dinberg@nlc-bnc.ca


Romania SIG #Romania RE: When did Ashkenazim migrate to Romania? #romania

Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@...>
 

Folks,

I respectfully suggest that this is indeed a genealogical question ... the
answer to which I also would like to know.

If one works a family line back so far (say, to 1800 or so) and then hits a
dead-end with respect to records and other solid sources, one begins to
suspect the family moved into the area in question >from elsewhere. At this
point, migratory history becomes _very_ important and, when known, can lead
to added earlier family information being discovered in archives and
repositories in other places.

Regards,
Donna Dinberg
Librarian, Jewish Genealogy Society of Ottawa
Ottawa, ON Canada
E-mail: donna.dinberg@nlc-bnc.ca


Re: Looking for a translator & Viewmate #lithuania

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

Phyllis Levine wrote:

"I have recently received a copy of a Russian passport of a relative, dated
1901, which I believe is in Cyrillic Russian. Is there any way of having it translated in the U.S., or must I send a copy to one of the
archivists/researchers in Lithuania? I would appreciate any advice."

I sent her a suggestion, but the message was sent back to me because the aol system was overloaded and so I will share this with the group as well, perhaps others are unaware of the wonderful Viewmate link.

How about posting it to the Viewmate section? I've had an outpouring number of responses when I've done that. To get information on how, go to the Jewishgen website <www.jewishgen.org>

Scroll down a little bit to the Learn section. On the right hand side
there is a box "Search this website." Click on it and then type in
Viewmate.

You'll get a new page, scroll down a little bit, and you'll eventually find
a link with the procedure for doing that.

You need access to a scanner to send a copy of the document. If you do not
have one and neither do your friends or relatives, the public library will
probably have one you can use. You will probably also be able to send it
from there.
After you send it to the person in charge of this link, you will receive a
message that it is now on the site. This may take place the same day or in
a few days, depending on how many other items are waiting. You will then
need to post an item on the discussion group to direct people to look at it.

I'd recommend posting to the general Jewishgen discussion group as well as
this one so that many more people will look at it.

Good luck!

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany and France
KOSOFSKY in Stuchin/Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn/Scucyn
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Looking for a translator & Viewmate #lithuania

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

Phyllis Levine wrote:

"I have recently received a copy of a Russian passport of a relative, dated
1901, which I believe is in Cyrillic Russian. Is there any way of having it translated in the U.S., or must I send a copy to one of the
archivists/researchers in Lithuania? I would appreciate any advice."

I sent her a suggestion, but the message was sent back to me because the aol system was overloaded and so I will share this with the group as well, perhaps others are unaware of the wonderful Viewmate link.

How about posting it to the Viewmate section? I've had an outpouring number of responses when I've done that. To get information on how, go to the Jewishgen website <www.jewishgen.org>

Scroll down a little bit to the Learn section. On the right hand side
there is a box "Search this website." Click on it and then type in
Viewmate.

You'll get a new page, scroll down a little bit, and you'll eventually find
a link with the procedure for doing that.

You need access to a scanner to send a copy of the document. If you do not
have one and neither do your friends or relatives, the public library will
probably have one you can use. You will probably also be able to send it
from there.
After you send it to the person in charge of this link, you will receive a
message that it is now on the site. This may take place the same day or in
a few days, depending on how many other items are waiting. You will then
need to post an item on the discussion group to direct people to look at it.

I'd recommend posting to the general Jewishgen discussion group as well as
this one so that many more people will look at it.

Good luck!

Linda Morzillo
Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany and France
KOSOFSKY in Stuchin/Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn/Scucyn
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


Re: looking for translator #lithuania

Kovitz, Sonia <Sonia.Kovitz@...>
 

Clarification: "old Russian" refers to the orthography used prior to the
Russian Revolution.

In 1918 Russian orthography was reformed, with some letters eliminated and
some spellings revised. To anyone with a fairly good knowledge of Russian, these changes are trivial. The main difficulties come with deciphering pre-revolutionary handwriting. When the Cyrillic text is printed, older documents are not a problem. I don't have time right now to help with translating, but if you still need assistance several weeks >from now, please contact me privately.
Sonia Kovitz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have one also >from 1907 and was told it is in "old Russian" if that
helps.
Diane Jacobs

I have recently received a copy of a Russian passport of a
relative, dated 1901, which I believe is in Cyrillic Russian.
Phyllis B. Levine


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: looking for translator #lithuania

Kovitz, Sonia <Sonia.Kovitz@...>
 

Clarification: "old Russian" refers to the orthography used prior to the
Russian Revolution.

In 1918 Russian orthography was reformed, with some letters eliminated and
some spellings revised. To anyone with a fairly good knowledge of Russian, these changes are trivial. The main difficulties come with deciphering pre-revolutionary handwriting. When the Cyrillic text is printed, older documents are not a problem. I don't have time right now to help with translating, but if you still need assistance several weeks >from now, please contact me privately.
Sonia Kovitz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have one also >from 1907 and was told it is in "old Russian" if that
helps.
Diane Jacobs

I have recently received a copy of a Russian passport of a
relative, dated 1901, which I believe is in Cyrillic Russian.
Phyllis B. Levine


researching BRZYSKIER & GUT from Przasnsyz #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Laja Gisia BRZYSKIER, daughter of Juda Lejb and Ita BRZESKIER, married
Srul Haim GUT, son of Hersz and Dobra Royzla GUT in Przasnsyz in 1864.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers


researching: JERKLOWICZ & ALENSTEJN #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Golda Fejga ALENSZTEJN, daughter of Leyzor Zelkowicz ALENSZTEJN, married
Maior JERKLOWICZ, son of Abraham and Hinda JERKLOWICZ in Przasnysz in
1832.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers


JRI Poland #Poland researching BRZYSKIER & GUT from Przasnsyz #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Laja Gisia BRZYSKIER, daughter of Juda Lejb and Ita BRZESKIER, married
Srul Haim GUT, son of Hersz and Dobra Royzla GUT in Przasnsyz in 1864.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers


JRI Poland #Poland researching: JERKLOWICZ & ALENSTEJN #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Golda Fejga ALENSZTEJN, daughter of Leyzor Zelkowicz ALENSZTEJN, married
Maior JERKLOWICZ, son of Abraham and Hinda JERKLOWICZ in Przasnysz in
1832.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers


researching RUDA & ALENSTEJN from Przasnsyz #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I keep finding RUDA connections to my ZYLBERMAN family.

The latest:
Ryfka ALENSTEJN, born c1828, daughter of Leyzor Zelkowicz ALENSTEJN, married Zelek RUDA, son of Gderl and Chaja Sura RUDA. Ryfka died c1851, after which Zelek RUDA married Liba ZYLBERMAN.

Note that the JRI-Poland index for this record (based on the Przasnysz clerk's index--I guess it was hard to get good help back then) is
incorrect and lists here death record as Ryfka ALENSTEJN which was actually her maiden name.

I'm beginning to find lots of connections between ZYLBERMAN, ALENSTEJN and
RUDA.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers


JRI Poland #Poland researching RUDA & ALENSTEJN from Przasnsyz #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I keep finding RUDA connections to my ZYLBERMAN family.

The latest:
Ryfka ALENSTEJN, born c1828, daughter of Leyzor Zelkowicz ALENSTEJN, married Zelek RUDA, son of Gderl and Chaja Sura RUDA. Ryfka died c1851, after which Zelek RUDA married Liba ZYLBERMAN.

Note that the JRI-Poland index for this record (based on the Przasnysz clerk's index--I guess it was hard to get good help back then) is
incorrect and lists here death record as Ryfka ALENSTEJN which was actually her maiden name.

I'm beginning to find lots of connections between ZYLBERMAN, ALENSTEJN and
RUDA.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers