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Sam GROSSMAN, Montevideo #belarus

Jacqueline Miller <cochavim@...>
 

I am searching for information about my great-uncle, Sam GROSSMAN
from Minsk. He went to Montevideo >from the US. He was an artist
who copied great masters paintings. His sisters and one brother
went to Australia and at least one brother to the US. I am the
granddaughter of his sister Zilla (Zippa) who married Moses
GROSOVSKY and went to Australia.

Jacqueline Miller
Jerusalem


Belarus SIG #Belarus Sam GROSSMAN, Montevideo #belarus

Jacqueline Miller <cochavim@...>
 

I am searching for information about my great-uncle, Sam GROSSMAN
from Minsk. He went to Montevideo >from the US. He was an artist
who copied great masters paintings. His sisters and one brother
went to Australia and at least one brother to the US. I am the
granddaughter of his sister Zilla (Zippa) who married Moses
GROSOVSKY and went to Australia.

Jacqueline Miller
Jerusalem


Buenos Aires Relatives #belarus

bgreenfield7@...
 

My grandfather's sister emigrated to Buenos Aires >from Russia and he
visited her and her family a number of times in the late 40's. Her
maiden name would have been Temma CJAJMIN. His name was Harry and
he had two brothers, Max and Wolf. The three of them took the name
of HYMAN in the US. That is all I know about his side of the family.

If anyone has any information >from this scanty information, please
contact me.

Bette Greenfield
Dayton, NJ


Belarus SIG #Belarus Buenos Aires Relatives #belarus

bgreenfield7@...
 

My grandfather's sister emigrated to Buenos Aires >from Russia and he
visited her and her family a number of times in the late 40's. Her
maiden name would have been Temma CJAJMIN. His name was Harry and
he had two brothers, Max and Wolf. The three of them took the name
of HYMAN in the US. That is all I know about his side of the family.

If anyone has any information >from this scanty information, please
contact me.

Bette Greenfield
Dayton, NJ


Re: Dov Kohave Russia to Palestine via Portugal #general

Barb & Howard
 

If not for computer difficulties, I would not be so late in coming to this
discussion, so please forgive me. Sally, you are perfectly correct in your
explaination. Any port in a storm succintly explains the circumstance. If I
may offer an encapsulated, breif story that will enhance this discussion;
he goess.

I personally know of a situation of a Jewish family, of Hungarian, origin,
who lived on the Dalmation coast on the Adriatic Sea. Accessable only by
ferry that sailed out of Triest to Loijin Picalo This family operated the
Alhambra Hotel. They had found their paradise on earth, and had planned to
be there forever..

We tend to think of this part of the world as being Yougoslavia, however it
was acquired by Italy in a treaty after Worl War One. Shortly after
Mousillini made his pact with Hitler, a decree was issuedas issued that all
Jew living within Italy, who were not born there before 1900 must leave
Italy very shortly by a given date.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sally M. Bruckheimer" <sallybru@wdcunet.net>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Dov Kohave

Geography does not always matter in wartime. People went where they were
safe (or at least potentially safer). Why did Jews end up in Shanghai?
Or Zaire?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dov Kohave Russia to Palestine via Portugal #general

Barb & Howard
 

If not for computer difficulties, I would not be so late in coming to this
discussion, so please forgive me. Sally, you are perfectly correct in your
explaination. Any port in a storm succintly explains the circumstance. If I
may offer an encapsulated, breif story that will enhance this discussion;
he goess.

I personally know of a situation of a Jewish family, of Hungarian, origin,
who lived on the Dalmation coast on the Adriatic Sea. Accessable only by
ferry that sailed out of Triest to Loijin Picalo This family operated the
Alhambra Hotel. They had found their paradise on earth, and had planned to
be there forever..

We tend to think of this part of the world as being Yougoslavia, however it
was acquired by Italy in a treaty after Worl War One. Shortly after
Mousillini made his pact with Hitler, a decree was issuedas issued that all
Jew living within Italy, who were not born there before 1900 must leave
Italy very shortly by a given date.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sally M. Bruckheimer" <sallybru@wdcunet.net>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Dov Kohave

Geography does not always matter in wartime. People went where they were
safe (or at least potentially safer). Why did Jews end up in Shanghai?
Or Zaire?


Re: Translation of medical term needed ("gruzlica") #general

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct.2, 03, Stephanis Weiner (laguna@sciti.com) asked
what is "gruzlica" a medical term which she had found on a death record.

I didn't expect to find the meaning of this word in my small
Langenscheidt Polish dictionary which often fails me, but I did! It
means "tuberculosis" or "consumption." There are a number of websites, all
in Polish which mention "gruzlica" in the context of pulmonary diseases.
Tuberculosis afflicated a tremendous amount of people, not only the poor.
No one was immune >from its terrible and once inevitable ravages. Even
members of the Russian nobility suffered >from it!

I was not surprised at finding that gruzlica means tuberulosis because
I had suspected that the root"gruz" may be related to the Russian
root "groz" for words meaning thunder, storm, calamity, menace or terror.

There are also a number of online websites which offer lists of diseases
and the terms used for them in the past and present. Some are in German,
some in other languages. I copied some of these lists to keep in a file,
but this morning I was too lazy to look where I've stashed the file!


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Translation of medical term needed ("gruzlica") #general

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct.2, 03, Stephanis Weiner (laguna@sciti.com) asked
what is "gruzlica" a medical term which she had found on a death record.

I didn't expect to find the meaning of this word in my small
Langenscheidt Polish dictionary which often fails me, but I did! It
means "tuberculosis" or "consumption." There are a number of websites, all
in Polish which mention "gruzlica" in the context of pulmonary diseases.
Tuberculosis afflicated a tremendous amount of people, not only the poor.
No one was immune >from its terrible and once inevitable ravages. Even
members of the Russian nobility suffered >from it!

I was not surprised at finding that gruzlica means tuberulosis because
I had suspected that the root"gruz" may be related to the Russian
root "groz" for words meaning thunder, storm, calamity, menace or terror.

There are also a number of online websites which offer lists of diseases
and the terms used for them in the past and present. Some are in German,
some in other languages. I copied some of these lists to keep in a file,
but this morning I was too lazy to look where I've stashed the file!


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Menachem Mendel #general

ASilberf <asilberf@...>
 

My former boss, Menachem Mendel was nicknamed Max.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
President Emeritus
JGS Palm Beach County Inc.
asilberf@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Menachem Mendel #general

ASilberf <asilberf@...>
 

My former boss, Menachem Mendel was nicknamed Max.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
President Emeritus
JGS Palm Beach County Inc.
asilberf@aol.com


correct names for towns Bzjec and Czyzei #general

Sam Lenger
 

Hi group
I look in Shtetlseeker for these two towns and didn't find using precise
spelling. Since I don't now where they are located (probably Poland) the
Daitch-Mokotoff option is of no help. These names were taken >from a book
written by Serge Klarsfeld (that documents lists of people transferred from
France to Auschwitz). If you now the correct name for these towns pls.
inform us.
Shana tova and gmar chatima tova for each one
Sam Lenger

MODERATOR NOTE: The towns are Bzjec and Czyzei.
Just a reminder for everyone: please repeat all relevant information
in the body of your message. That way everyone will be able to see
what you're talking about at a glance, and not have to go find the
subject line. This isn't a requirement, but it is a great help in
keeping people's eyes on your message.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen correct names for towns Bzjec and Czyzei #general

Sam Lenger
 

Hi group
I look in Shtetlseeker for these two towns and didn't find using precise
spelling. Since I don't now where they are located (probably Poland) the
Daitch-Mokotoff option is of no help. These names were taken >from a book
written by Serge Klarsfeld (that documents lists of people transferred from
France to Auschwitz). If you now the correct name for these towns pls.
inform us.
Shana tova and gmar chatima tova for each one
Sam Lenger

MODERATOR NOTE: The towns are Bzjec and Czyzei.
Just a reminder for everyone: please repeat all relevant information
in the body of your message. That way everyone will be able to see
what you're talking about at a glance, and not have to go find the
subject line. This isn't a requirement, but it is a great help in
keeping people's eyes on your message.


Re: Polish Translation #unitedkingdom

Alexander Sharon
 

Angela Shire wrote:

Can anyone help with the followin which appears in Krakow Survivors
list:
SCHEIER ANNA 09.06.1904 Krak=F3w SALOMON & ESTER LACK Anna Weksler
zawarla slub dnia 17.12.1946 w Krakowie z Hermanem Katzem; 1.voto
WEKSLER.<

I know that Anna was a daughter of Salomon & Esther Scheier (nee
Lack)and I gather that "zawarla slub dnia 17.12.1946" means she got
married on that day in Krakow.

But did she marry WEKSLER? Or KATZEM? and what does 1. Voto signify.
Angela,

Anna Weksler nee Scheier, daughter od Salomon and Ester, nee Lack, Scheier
married Herman Katz on December 12, 1946.

Her surname >from the previous marriage was Weksler.

"primo" or rather "primo voto" (Latin) means ">from the first marriage",
ie surname >from the first marriage or first husband's surname.

--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish Translation #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Angela Shire wrote:

Can anyone help with the followin which appears in Krakow Survivors
list:
SCHEIER ANNA 09.06.1904 Krak=F3w SALOMON & ESTER LACK Anna Weksler
zawarla slub dnia 17.12.1946 w Krakowie z Hermanem Katzem; 1.voto
WEKSLER.<

I know that Anna was a daughter of Salomon & Esther Scheier (nee
Lack)and I gather that "zawarla slub dnia 17.12.1946" means she got
married on that day in Krakow.

But did she marry WEKSLER? Or KATZEM? and what does 1. Voto signify.
Angela,

Anna Weksler nee Scheier, daughter od Salomon and Ester, nee Lack, Scheier
married Herman Katz on December 12, 1946.

Her surname >from the previous marriage was Weksler.

"primo" or rather "primo voto" (Latin) means ">from the first marriage",
ie surname >from the first marriage or first husband's surname.

--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada


Re: Boston HIAS lists #general

Susan&David
 

Hanna: NARA in Waltham, MA has the Boston passenger lists.
See: http://www.jewishgen.org/boston/bostres.html#NATLARCH

David Rosen
Boston, MA

hanna wrote:


LDS film on HIAS Boston arrivals has given me the date of arrival and
ship name for several people who may (or may not) be related. In the
absence of boar arrival lists for Boston, how can I go further on
determining who thse people are?

Hanna Grossman, Cornwall CT

mailto:hannakg@optonline.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Boston HIAS lists #general

Susan&David
 

Hanna: NARA in Waltham, MA has the Boston passenger lists.
See: http://www.jewishgen.org/boston/bostres.html#NATLARCH

David Rosen
Boston, MA

hanna wrote:


LDS film on HIAS Boston arrivals has given me the date of arrival and
ship name for several people who may (or may not) be related. In the
absence of boar arrival lists for Boston, how can I go further on
determining who thse people are?

Hanna Grossman, Cornwall CT

mailto:hannakg@optonline.net


KAUFMANN from Loesnich in Chicago area #general

Dr. Marie-Luise Conen <context-conen@...>
 

3.10.03
I am searching for descendents of Johanna Anna KAUFMANN born 22/24.1.1883
in Loesnich at the Moselle and her brother Adolph Kaufmann born 4.11.1994
also in Loesnich at the Moselle. Both siblings come >from the family of
Jacob Kaufmann and Amalia Kaufmann and had several siblings like Siegmund
Kaufmann born in 7.10.1881 who married probably Eva Levy and lived in New
York. Both - Adolph and Anna Kaufmann - had moved to the Chicago area in
the last 1930ths.

Since Kaufmann is a wide spread name I am wondering if somebody could help
me with any hints. There are too many Kaufmann´s in the telephone
directory to find any of them. Also since they were already in their mid
fünfites and did not have children there are probably no direct
descendents. Therefore I am also wondering if somebody could help me with
hints about organisations who might have details about migration in the
1930ths to Chicago?

With best regards
Dr. Marie-Luise Conen, Berlin, Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KAUFMANN from Loesnich in Chicago area #general

Dr. Marie-Luise Conen <context-conen@...>
 

3.10.03
I am searching for descendents of Johanna Anna KAUFMANN born 22/24.1.1883
in Loesnich at the Moselle and her brother Adolph Kaufmann born 4.11.1994
also in Loesnich at the Moselle. Both siblings come >from the family of
Jacob Kaufmann and Amalia Kaufmann and had several siblings like Siegmund
Kaufmann born in 7.10.1881 who married probably Eva Levy and lived in New
York. Both - Adolph and Anna Kaufmann - had moved to the Chicago area in
the last 1930ths.

Since Kaufmann is a wide spread name I am wondering if somebody could help
me with any hints. There are too many Kaufmann´s in the telephone
directory to find any of them. Also since they were already in their mid
fünfites and did not have children there are probably no direct
descendents. Therefore I am also wondering if somebody could help me with
hints about organisations who might have details about migration in the
1930ths to Chicago?

With best regards
Dr. Marie-Luise Conen, Berlin, Germany


NYTimes article on city archival records, vaccination and heart attacks #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

While not exactly a genealogy article, it is an interesting case study of
the use of old municipal archival documents to solve a modern mystery. The
city reviewed paper records and entered them into a computerized database,
much like our many JewishGen volunteers around the world.

The story, "Checking City's Archives to Solve a Medical Mystery," by
Richard Perez-Pena," is on the NYTimes website of October 3,
<www.nytimes.com>

It covers an interesting use of more than 81,000 paper 1946-1948 death
certificates >from the New York City archives to disprove a possible
relationship of smallpox vaccination to heart attacks. The project also
used records >from a NYC 1947 crash vaccination program, which vaccinated
6.3 million people over just three weeks, following the last domestic
outbreak of the disease. Data entry was done by 100 people who manually
reviewed the certificates and databased information, while five people did
the analysis. Years selected reflected the year prior to the outbreak (and
the vaccination program) and the year following.

The possible relationship was suggested after the Bush administration
wanted to vaccinate a half-million health workers last spring and three
people died. Following this, many were reluctant to be vaccinated.
The NYC health commisioner believed that if there were such a link to
cardiac arrest, the records for the 1947 program would indicate that, with
more than 6 million people vaccinated in a very short time, there would be
a rise in fatal heart attacks. The result, however, claims the city's
health commision, shows no association between vaccination and possible
heart attacks.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv - JFRA Israel president
dardasht@barak-online.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il

MODERATOR NOTE: Posted for informational purposes only.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYTimes article on city archival records, vaccination and heart attacks #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

While not exactly a genealogy article, it is an interesting case study of
the use of old municipal archival documents to solve a modern mystery. The
city reviewed paper records and entered them into a computerized database,
much like our many JewishGen volunteers around the world.

The story, "Checking City's Archives to Solve a Medical Mystery," by
Richard Perez-Pena," is on the NYTimes website of October 3,
<www.nytimes.com>

It covers an interesting use of more than 81,000 paper 1946-1948 death
certificates >from the New York City archives to disprove a possible
relationship of smallpox vaccination to heart attacks. The project also
used records >from a NYC 1947 crash vaccination program, which vaccinated
6.3 million people over just three weeks, following the last domestic
outbreak of the disease. Data entry was done by 100 people who manually
reviewed the certificates and databased information, while five people did
the analysis. Years selected reflected the year prior to the outbreak (and
the vaccination program) and the year following.

The possible relationship was suggested after the Bush administration
wanted to vaccinate a half-million health workers last spring and three
people died. Following this, many were reluctant to be vaccinated.
The NYC health commisioner believed that if there were such a link to
cardiac arrest, the records for the 1947 program would indicate that, with
more than 6 million people vaccinated in a very short time, there would be
a rise in fatal heart attacks. The result, however, claims the city's
health commision, shows no association between vaccination and possible
heart attacks.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv - JFRA Israel president
dardasht@barak-online.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il

MODERATOR NOTE: Posted for informational purposes only.