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Re: Book of Remembrance #lithuania

A. Cassel <acassel@...>
 

Gail,

If you're interested, why not email the authors directly? Their emails are
listed on the JewishGen website:
Rose Lerer Cohen (Jerusalem) rlc@shani.net
Dr Saul Issroff (London) saul@swico.demon.co.uk

I'm sure they'd be willing to direct you to the relevant volume.

All the best,

Andy Cassel


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania RE: Book of Remembrance #lithuania

A. Cassel <acassel@...>
 

Gail,

If you're interested, why not email the authors directly? Their emails are
listed on the JewishGen website:
Rose Lerer Cohen (Jerusalem) rlc@shani.net
Dr Saul Issroff (London) saul@swico.demon.co.uk

I'm sure they'd be willing to direct you to the relevant volume.

All the best,

Andy Cassel


Re: Book of Remembrance #lithuania

Myra Gordon <m.gordon@...>
 

GAIL

Sorry - unable to help you -but that book sounds fantastic. I wonder
whether one can access information. Perhaps you know.

Regards,
Myra Gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gail Chesler" <gailforce@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Keidan SIG" <keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:17 AM
Subject: Book of Remembrance


I've just discovered that Rose Cohen and Saul Issroff compiled a 4
volume Book of Remembrance for Lithuanian holocaust victims. These
books are rather expensive so I don't want to purchase all the volumes.
Does anyone know which of these volumes contain the names of the Jews of
Keidan?

Thanks for your help.

Gail Chesler
128 Central Park South, 3B
New York, New York 10019


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: Book of Remembrance #lithuania

Myra Gordon <m.gordon@...>
 

GAIL

Sorry - unable to help you -but that book sounds fantastic. I wonder
whether one can access information. Perhaps you know.

Regards,
Myra Gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gail Chesler" <gailforce@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Keidan SIG" <keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:17 AM
Subject: Book of Remembrance


I've just discovered that Rose Cohen and Saul Issroff compiled a 4
volume Book of Remembrance for Lithuanian holocaust victims. These
books are rather expensive so I don't want to purchase all the volumes.
Does anyone know which of these volumes contain the names of the Jews of
Keidan?

Thanks for your help.

Gail Chesler
128 Central Park South, 3B
New York, New York 10019


VALLENTINE #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In 1883 Sigmund SELIGMANN (>from Ichenhausen in Germany), a relative of my
mother, and Moss VALLENTINE started a business in Dordrecht, Cape Colony,
and later in Barkly East.

As the business in Barkly East became more successful, Seligmann employed
a Jack VALLENTINE as a clerk.

In 1889 Ernestine PERLMUTTER left Ichenhausen for S. Africa. She married
Sigmund Seligmann in Port Elizabeth. Jack Vallentine married Erestines's
sister Helene PERLMUTTER when she came out to Barkly East.

I have recently visited Barkly East and saw Jack Vallentine's grave there.
The grave of Jack VALLENTINE gives the following information:

"In loving memory of JACK VALLENTINE, sixth son of Philip Vallentine of
London. Died at Barkly East 7 March 1897 aged 32 years." There is also a
Hebrew inscription.

I would like to know if Moss and Jack VALLENTINE are related, and in what
way. Also I would be keen to have any more information about the
VALLENTINE family and also the PERLMUTTER family.

As this query covers three countries, Germany,S.Africa and the UK, I have
placed it on several SIG discussion lists.

Please reply to Adam Yamey, London, UK adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk


German SIG #Germany VALLENTINE #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In 1883 Sigmund SELIGMANN (>from Ichenhausen in Germany), a relative of my
mother, and Moss VALLENTINE started a business in Dordrecht, Cape Colony,
and later in Barkly East.

As the business in Barkly East became more successful, Seligmann employed
a Jack VALLENTINE as a clerk.

In 1889 Ernestine PERLMUTTER left Ichenhausen for S. Africa. She married
Sigmund Seligmann in Port Elizabeth. Jack Vallentine married Erestines's
sister Helene PERLMUTTER when she came out to Barkly East.

I have recently visited Barkly East and saw Jack Vallentine's grave there.
The grave of Jack VALLENTINE gives the following information:

"In loving memory of JACK VALLENTINE, sixth son of Philip Vallentine of
London. Died at Barkly East 7 March 1897 aged 32 years." There is also a
Hebrew inscription.

I would like to know if Moss and Jack VALLENTINE are related, and in what
way. Also I would be keen to have any more information about the
VALLENTINE family and also the PERLMUTTER family.

As this query covers three countries, Germany,S.Africa and the UK, I have
placed it on several SIG discussion lists.

Please reply to Adam Yamey, London, UK adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk


Tuberculosis/Farmingdale Prematorium #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

My grandfather and his younger brother were sent to Farmingdale
Prematorium in NJ by the NYC Department of Health after their father died
of tuberculosis in 1926. Does anyone know if records exist for this place
and where? Would the Department of Health have records since they pulled
the children out of their home? My grandfather recalls being there for
about 12-15 months.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland

Researching:
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
EISNER, TAUB, SASS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER [or variants], TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo);
CHERNOCK/CHERNIACK (Novozybkov, Mogilev); CHESIN (Mstislavl, Mogilev);
KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS (Makow, Lomza, Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tuberculosis/Farmingdale Prematorium #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

My grandfather and his younger brother were sent to Farmingdale
Prematorium in NJ by the NYC Department of Health after their father died
of tuberculosis in 1926. Does anyone know if records exist for this place
and where? Would the Department of Health have records since they pulled
the children out of their home? My grandfather recalls being there for
about 12-15 months.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland

Researching:
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
EISNER, TAUB, SASS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER [or variants], TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo);
CHERNOCK/CHERNIACK (Novozybkov, Mogilev); CHESIN (Mstislavl, Mogilev);
KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS (Makow, Lomza, Poland)


Restoration of Cemeteries #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I am trying to find out the possibilities of restoring Jewish cemeteries in
the Ukraine.My paternal ancestors came >from the town of Druzhkopol,which is
now called---- Zhuravniki. In the International Cemetery Project,it lists
the Jewish cemetery as consisting of mass and unmarked graves.It would sound
based on this that there would be no hope.
Nevertheless,I have learned that there have
been cemeteries in Europe that have been restored,but which had a similar
description in the International Cemetery Project.
Your comments would be gratefully appreciated.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching GERSHFELD >from Druzhkopol,Volhynia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Restoration of Cemeteries #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I am trying to find out the possibilities of restoring Jewish cemeteries in
the Ukraine.My paternal ancestors came >from the town of Druzhkopol,which is
now called---- Zhuravniki. In the International Cemetery Project,it lists
the Jewish cemetery as consisting of mass and unmarked graves.It would sound
based on this that there would be no hope.
Nevertheless,I have learned that there have
been cemeteries in Europe that have been restored,but which had a similar
description in the International Cemetery Project.
Your comments would be gratefully appreciated.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching GERSHFELD >from Druzhkopol,Volhynia


NY City synagogues map circa 1905-1910 #general

Sara Lynns
 

Is there a map of NY City synagogues >from this era?
I've contacted NY Public library attempting to locate
*all* synagogues near 299 Avenue B for that time period.

thank you
Jackie Lerner-Aderman, Portland, OR

please reply privately
saralynn7@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY City synagogues map circa 1905-1910 #general

Sara Lynns
 

Is there a map of NY City synagogues >from this era?
I've contacted NY Public library attempting to locate
*all* synagogues near 299 Avenue B for that time period.

thank you
Jackie Lerner-Aderman, Portland, OR

please reply privately
saralynn7@yahoo.com


VALLENTINE #unitedkingdom

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In 1883 Sigmund SELIGMANN (>from Ichenhausen in
Germany), a relative of my mother, and Moss VALLENTINE
started a business in Dordrecht, Cape Colony, and
later in Barkly East. As the business in Barkly East
became more successful, Seligmann employed a Jack
VALLENTINE as a clerk.

In 1889 Ernestine PERLMUTTER left Ichenhausen for S.
Africa. She married Sigmund Seligmann in Port
Elizabeth. Jack Vallentine married Erestines's sister
Helene PERLMUTTER when she came out to Barkly East.

I have recently visited Barkly East and saw Jack
Vallentine's grave there.

The grave of Jack VALLENTINE gives the following
information:

"In loving memory of JACK VALLENTINE, sixth son of
Philip Vallentine of London. Died at Barkly East 7
March 1897 aged 32 years." There is also a Hebrew
inscription.

I would like to know if Moss and Jack VALLENTINE are
related, and in what way.

Also I would be keen to have any more information
about the Vallentine family and also the Perlmutter
family.

As this query covers three countries, Germany,
S.Africa and the UK, I have placed it on several SIGs.


Please reply to Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom VALLENTINE #unitedkingdom

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In 1883 Sigmund SELIGMANN (>from Ichenhausen in
Germany), a relative of my mother, and Moss VALLENTINE
started a business in Dordrecht, Cape Colony, and
later in Barkly East. As the business in Barkly East
became more successful, Seligmann employed a Jack
VALLENTINE as a clerk.

In 1889 Ernestine PERLMUTTER left Ichenhausen for S.
Africa. She married Sigmund Seligmann in Port
Elizabeth. Jack Vallentine married Erestines's sister
Helene PERLMUTTER when she came out to Barkly East.

I have recently visited Barkly East and saw Jack
Vallentine's grave there.

The grave of Jack VALLENTINE gives the following
information:

"In loving memory of JACK VALLENTINE, sixth son of
Philip Vallentine of London. Died at Barkly East 7
March 1897 aged 32 years." There is also a Hebrew
inscription.

I would like to know if Moss and Jack VALLENTINE are
related, and in what way.

Also I would be keen to have any more information
about the Vallentine family and also the Perlmutter
family.

As this query covers three countries, Germany,
S.Africa and the UK, I have placed it on several SIGs.


Please reply to Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: Does Mikuli=Moishe? Marrying dead wife's sister #general

MBernet@...
 

Henny had written:
. . . .the two wives were probably first cousins.

to which Stan Goodman replied
... or indeed, with the same probability, second cousins. >>

==That one father was Moish and the other Mikuli does not mean they were
necessarily two different persons; he just used his various names (Hebrew,
Yiddish, Polish, registered, nickname, kinnuy) on different occasions.

==I'd say the highest probability is that they were sisters, with
cousinship diminishing with each rank. So many widowers in my various
families married sisters in law. I think it was virtually "the thing to
do."

==Remember, it was a mitzva for the family of the bride to remain
connected, to the grandchildren and nephews/nieces. Even more so, finding
a husband for a bride was not easy given the mass departure of the younger
sons in Jewish families who lacked economic opportunities at home.

==Marrying a sister-in-law had many advantages, not the least that it
didn't require a long search for a shidduch and long negotiations,
important for a man left with four children including a newborn who
required a mother who was close enough to understand them.

==The bride's family probably also saved on the dowry. Not inconsequential.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Does Mikuli=Moishe? Marrying dead wife's sister #general

MBernet@...
 

Henny had written:
. . . .the two wives were probably first cousins.

to which Stan Goodman replied
... or indeed, with the same probability, second cousins. >>

==That one father was Moish and the other Mikuli does not mean they were
necessarily two different persons; he just used his various names (Hebrew,
Yiddish, Polish, registered, nickname, kinnuy) on different occasions.

==I'd say the highest probability is that they were sisters, with
cousinship diminishing with each rank. So many widowers in my various
families married sisters in law. I think it was virtually "the thing to
do."

==Remember, it was a mitzva for the family of the bride to remain
connected, to the grandchildren and nephews/nieces. Even more so, finding
a husband for a bride was not easy given the mass departure of the younger
sons in Jewish families who lacked economic opportunities at home.

==Marrying a sister-in-law had many advantages, not the least that it
didn't require a long search for a shidduch and long negotiations,
important for a man left with four children including a newborn who
required a mother who was close enough to understand them.

==The bride's family probably also saved on the dowry. Not inconsequential.

Michael Bernet, New York


Pam Gordan #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello
Has Pam Gordan changed her E-Mail address?

I would like very much to be in touch with her.
Thanks so very much.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com


Re: Publishing on CD-rom--can any computer user access it? #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

If you stay away >from using proprietary file formats like .doc (MSWord) or
.xls(MSExcel) you should be OK. Plain ASCII text (files ending with .txt)
and standard image files (.jpg, .gif) should be universally readable.

--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA

In a message dated 9/5/2003 4:53:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hekenvin@bellsouth.net writes:

<< . . . .suggested "publishing" family books on CDs. . . . .except for
this problem: Unless everyone in your family uses the same desk-top
publishing program, people will be unable to open all of the files. >>

==I thought that formatted text and images on CD-roms can now be read on
virtually any computer and word processor. Can a computer mayven
enlighten us on this? I was thinking of publishing one family quadrant
next year.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: A brief and general explanation may be posted,
but technical details and information about specific programs
are off topic for this list. You may wish to begin a thread on
the newsgroup soc.genealogy.computing to discuss this in depth.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pam Gordan #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello
Has Pam Gordan changed her E-Mail address?

I would like very much to be in touch with her.
Thanks so very much.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Publishing on CD-rom--can any computer user access it? #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

If you stay away >from using proprietary file formats like .doc (MSWord) or
.xls(MSExcel) you should be OK. Plain ASCII text (files ending with .txt)
and standard image files (.jpg, .gif) should be universally readable.

--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA

In a message dated 9/5/2003 4:53:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hekenvin@bellsouth.net writes:

<< . . . .suggested "publishing" family books on CDs. . . . .except for
this problem: Unless everyone in your family uses the same desk-top
publishing program, people will be unable to open all of the files. >>

==I thought that formatted text and images on CD-roms can now be read on
virtually any computer and word processor. Can a computer mayven
enlighten us on this? I was thinking of publishing one family quadrant
next year.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: A brief and general explanation may be posted,
but technical details and information about specific programs
are off topic for this list. You may wish to begin a thread on
the newsgroup soc.genealogy.computing to discuss this in depth.