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Re: Natafalva/Nacina Ves grave stones #hungary

bikerick <bikerick@...>
 

It's not too difficult to translate the gravestones. Just get a Hebrew
alphabet and write down the equivalent letters in our script. Since Hebrew
is written right to left with no vowels Stern for example will be NRTS. If
you look at a Hebrew alphabet and write down those letters and compare them
to the name on the gravestones it will become apparent if there are any
Sterns. there are also lists of common gravestone terms in Hebrew. I have
one I can send if you want and aids as to how to translate the Hebrew
letters into numbers into dates. Good Luck, Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: NORMAN FUHRER [mailto:nfuhrer@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:07 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Re:Natafalva/Nacina Ves grave stones


We purchased a disc containing pictures of at least 31 gravestones,
photographed in the Jewish Cemetery located in, what was formerly,
Natafalva, Hungary -- now Nacina Ves, Slovakia. This is a village located
between Humenne and Michalovce, Zemplen Megye, Slovakia.

The gravestones are, of course, in Hebrew. We have not been able to have
them translated. We did have prints made >from the disc, which
appear to be
quite clear. Our main interest is to see if any of our FUHRER, STERN,
GOLDBLATT relatives are among those buried there. We will be
happy to share
the information, once we know what is written on the stones.

My father was born in Natafalva, Hungary in 1894, as were some of his
brothers. We understand that the family owned? a farm in
Natafalva on which
they all lived (grandparents, parents and children). In the 1828 Renter's
List, we found a member of the STERN Family listed as an arender in
Natafalva. My paternal ggm was Golda STERN.

Can anyone suggest how we may have these gravestones translated.
We have had
these photos in our possession for over a year. Because of, ashamedly,
being technically challenged, we have not had any success in sending items
to Viewmate.

Best wishes,
Norman and Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast - USA


Holic #hungary

korman <korman3@...>
 

Contact the Slovak archives. There is a good chance that some birth,
marriage and death records are either in the Bratislava or Nitra branch.

Debbi
Van Nuys


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re:Natafalva/Nacina Ves grave stones #hungary

bikerick <bikerick@...>
 

It's not too difficult to translate the gravestones. Just get a Hebrew
alphabet and write down the equivalent letters in our script. Since Hebrew
is written right to left with no vowels Stern for example will be NRTS. If
you look at a Hebrew alphabet and write down those letters and compare them
to the name on the gravestones it will become apparent if there are any
Sterns. there are also lists of common gravestone terms in Hebrew. I have
one I can send if you want and aids as to how to translate the Hebrew
letters into numbers into dates. Good Luck, Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: NORMAN FUHRER [mailto:nfuhrer@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:07 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Re:Natafalva/Nacina Ves grave stones


We purchased a disc containing pictures of at least 31 gravestones,
photographed in the Jewish Cemetery located in, what was formerly,
Natafalva, Hungary -- now Nacina Ves, Slovakia. This is a village located
between Humenne and Michalovce, Zemplen Megye, Slovakia.

The gravestones are, of course, in Hebrew. We have not been able to have
them translated. We did have prints made >from the disc, which
appear to be
quite clear. Our main interest is to see if any of our FUHRER, STERN,
GOLDBLATT relatives are among those buried there. We will be
happy to share
the information, once we know what is written on the stones.

My father was born in Natafalva, Hungary in 1894, as were some of his
brothers. We understand that the family owned? a farm in
Natafalva on which
they all lived (grandparents, parents and children). In the 1828 Renter's
List, we found a member of the STERN Family listed as an arender in
Natafalva. My paternal ggm was Golda STERN.

Can anyone suggest how we may have these gravestones translated.
We have had
these photos in our possession for over a year. Because of, ashamedly,
being technically challenged, we have not had any success in sending items
to Viewmate.

Best wishes,
Norman and Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast - USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Holic #hungary

korman <korman3@...>
 

Contact the Slovak archives. There is a good chance that some birth,
marriage and death records are either in the Bratislava or Nitra branch.

Debbi
Van Nuys


Re: looking for Kalman Maut(h)ner #hungary

Omri Arnon <Omri@...>
 

Orsi,

One source you may want to try is the French Foreign Legion Museum. Its
address is:

Le Museum de Honour, de la Legion Etrangere
Quartier Vienot
Route de la Thuillere
BP 38
13400 Aubagne
France

They do have information about many of the ex-legionaires, and said they
will look for information if you write them (in French!) the details of your
ancestor.

Good Luck

Omri Arnon
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Levai Orsolya" <levaio@chello.hu>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: [h-sig] looking for Kalman Maut(h)ner


Dear H-Sig readers,

My mothernal grand mother's maiden name was Aranka Mauthner.
One of her brothers (the only brother could have survived the Holocaust)
went to the
Foreign Legion in France before the war.
His name was Kalman Mauthner or Mautner.

As far as I know, after the WW II. he lived in Marocco, he raised a family
there.
I know his mother's maiden name: Gizella Schlesinger and his father was
Jozsef Mauthner.

Could you please help me in any way finding him or his family - if he had
any? Or even tell me who to
contact to?

Thank you for all your help.

Orsolya Levai
Nagykanizsa
Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: looking for Kalman Maut(h)ner #hungary

Omri Arnon <Omri@...>
 

Orsi,

One source you may want to try is the French Foreign Legion Museum. Its
address is:

Le Museum de Honour, de la Legion Etrangere
Quartier Vienot
Route de la Thuillere
BP 38
13400 Aubagne
France

They do have information about many of the ex-legionaires, and said they
will look for information if you write them (in French!) the details of your
ancestor.

Good Luck

Omri Arnon
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Levai Orsolya" <levaio@chello.hu>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: [h-sig] looking for Kalman Maut(h)ner


Dear H-Sig readers,

My mothernal grand mother's maiden name was Aranka Mauthner.
One of her brothers (the only brother could have survived the Holocaust)
went to the
Foreign Legion in France before the war.
His name was Kalman Mauthner or Mautner.

As far as I know, after the WW II. he lived in Marocco, he raised a family
there.
I know his mother's maiden name: Gizella Schlesinger and his father was
Jozsef Mauthner.

Could you please help me in any way finding him or his family - if he had
any? Or even tell me who to
contact to?

Thank you for all your help.

Orsolya Levai
Nagykanizsa
Hungary


Re: Help with deciphering German script #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Re: Pessel Feuerstein... The surname caught my attention because my
grandfather, who
lived in Vienna had the same surname. I am always searching for
relatives...My
grandfather was one of 4 sons, born in SKALAT in 1881, but upon completing
school
moved to Vienna as a young man. Please let me know if Pessel Feuerstein
comes from
Galicia/Ukraine originally?
I regret I cannot help in deciphering the German script. However, I was
under the
impression that Getreidehaendler referred to someone who traded in farm
animals.
Regards,
Kitty Sauber NY'


Tombstone inscriptions to share from Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR) #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello everyone,
Recently I was sent some pictures of tombstone inscriptions >from the
town of Szuerthe (currently Strumkovka, UKR), the town of origin for some of my
WEISS family. While I unfortunately didn't get anything of value for my own
research, I'm hoping that this information will be of use to someone else. Not
all of the headstones were legible, but the following information is the best
I and an Israeli friend of mine could make out. Some of the headstones
contained very flowery and descriptive words of flattery and compliment, but I'm not
including them all here. Please contact me if you find something that
pertains to your own research and I'll be happy to send you a copy of the picture.

Morenu v'Rabbenu Menachem, son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Menachem FIERKOVITCH, died
25th Nissan, 5677 (1917)

Morenu v'Rabbenu Aaron Moshe son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Natan Neta, of blessed
memory, 2nd Kislev, 56??

Mordechai Zvi son of Yacov Yitzchak HaCohen RAPPOPORT died 7th Adar 5681(?)
(1921-?)

Moshe ben Zvi Eli (Ari?), died at age 70 years, in the year 5698 (5695?)
(1938 or 1935?)

Shmuel SCHOENBERGER of blessed memory

Morenu v'Rabbenu Yedida son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Yisrael

Shlomo Zalman (son of?) Moshe Yechezkel died 4th Iyar, 5633? (1873?)

Sheindel daughter of Morenu v'Rabbenu Avraham Menachem, wife of Yisrael
KLEIN, died 17th of Tevet year?

Rivka daughter of Morenu haKadosh Zvi BARVIN the _____?, of blessed memory,
died on the ?th day of Elul in the year (it looks like Tav, Resh, Samech, Zayin
slash Kof)

Yacov Shaul son of ________?, died 10th of Tevet in the year (it looks like
Tav, Resh, Ayin, Bet, Kof)

Golda daughter of haRav haDagul Mordecai Zvi SIRTER, of blessed memory, wife
of haRav haDagul Pinchas SIRTER, may he be granted a long life, died 22nd of
Tamuz, 568?

Regards, and with apologies for my less than perfect translations,

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins,CO

Researching:
WEISS: Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR), Cemerne/Varanno, Michalovce, Zemplen
County
WEISBERG: any
GLICK: any
LICHT: Gyor, Kormend? Komarno/Komarom?
STOSSEL/STOESSEL: Budapest, Ungvar/Uzhgorod, Szent-Margita (Szolnok-Doboka
county, currently Sanmarghita, Romania)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help with deciphering German script #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Re: Pessel Feuerstein... The surname caught my attention because my
grandfather, who
lived in Vienna had the same surname. I am always searching for
relatives...My
grandfather was one of 4 sons, born in SKALAT in 1881, but upon completing
school
moved to Vienna as a young man. Please let me know if Pessel Feuerstein
comes from
Galicia/Ukraine originally?
I regret I cannot help in deciphering the German script. However, I was
under the
impression that Getreidehaendler referred to someone who traded in farm
animals.
Regards,
Kitty Sauber NY'


Hungary SIG #Hungary Tombstone inscriptions to share from Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR) #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello everyone,
Recently I was sent some pictures of tombstone inscriptions >from the
town of Szuerthe (currently Strumkovka, UKR), the town of origin for some of my
WEISS family. While I unfortunately didn't get anything of value for my own
research, I'm hoping that this information will be of use to someone else. Not
all of the headstones were legible, but the following information is the best
I and an Israeli friend of mine could make out. Some of the headstones
contained very flowery and descriptive words of flattery and compliment, but I'm not
including them all here. Please contact me if you find something that
pertains to your own research and I'll be happy to send you a copy of the picture.

Morenu v'Rabbenu Menachem, son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Menachem FIERKOVITCH, died
25th Nissan, 5677 (1917)

Morenu v'Rabbenu Aaron Moshe son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Natan Neta, of blessed
memory, 2nd Kislev, 56??

Mordechai Zvi son of Yacov Yitzchak HaCohen RAPPOPORT died 7th Adar 5681(?)
(1921-?)

Moshe ben Zvi Eli (Ari?), died at age 70 years, in the year 5698 (5695?)
(1938 or 1935?)

Shmuel SCHOENBERGER of blessed memory

Morenu v'Rabbenu Yedida son of Morenu v'Rabbenu Yisrael

Shlomo Zalman (son of?) Moshe Yechezkel died 4th Iyar, 5633? (1873?)

Sheindel daughter of Morenu v'Rabbenu Avraham Menachem, wife of Yisrael
KLEIN, died 17th of Tevet year?

Rivka daughter of Morenu haKadosh Zvi BARVIN the _____?, of blessed memory,
died on the ?th day of Elul in the year (it looks like Tav, Resh, Samech, Zayin
slash Kof)

Yacov Shaul son of ________?, died 10th of Tevet in the year (it looks like
Tav, Resh, Ayin, Bet, Kof)

Golda daughter of haRav haDagul Mordecai Zvi SIRTER, of blessed memory, wife
of haRav haDagul Pinchas SIRTER, may he be granted a long life, died 22nd of
Tamuz, 568?

Regards, and with apologies for my less than perfect translations,

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins,CO

Researching:
WEISS: Szuerthe (Strumkovka, UKR), Cemerne/Varanno, Michalovce, Zemplen
County
WEISBERG: any
GLICK: any
LICHT: Gyor, Kormend? Komarno/Komarom?
STOSSEL/STOESSEL: Budapest, Ungvar/Uzhgorod, Szent-Margita (Szolnok-Doboka
county, currently Sanmarghita, Romania)


Holocaust Memorial Database #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

Due to a job change, Ken Tomory is not going to be able to continue to
serve as project coordinator for the Holocaust Memorial Database
project. If you have photos, images and/or transcriptions to submit and
haven't already notified me, please send them to me or send an e-mail
letting me know about them.

I'm personally very committed to this project, but I would welcome
another volunteer to serve as coordinator. At this stage of the
project, the coordinator is involved with preparing transcription
instructions, collecting transcriptions, reviewing them for accuracy,
adding them to the submittal database and submitting the database and
updates. Much of the initial database is ready for submittal, but a
number of H-SIG members are transcribing additional memorials.

Thank you for your support of this important database.

Carol Robinson
Coordinator, All Hungary Database
caroljr@alamedanet.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Holocaust Memorial Database #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

Due to a job change, Ken Tomory is not going to be able to continue to
serve as project coordinator for the Holocaust Memorial Database
project. If you have photos, images and/or transcriptions to submit and
haven't already notified me, please send them to me or send an e-mail
letting me know about them.

I'm personally very committed to this project, but I would welcome
another volunteer to serve as coordinator. At this stage of the
project, the coordinator is involved with preparing transcription
instructions, collecting transcriptions, reviewing them for accuracy,
adding them to the submittal database and submitting the database and
updates. Much of the initial database is ready for submittal, but a
number of H-SIG members are transcribing additional memorials.

Thank you for your support of this important database.

Carol Robinson
Coordinator, All Hungary Database
caroljr@alamedanet.net


Searching for:Melakh UEBERREICH in Israel #belarus

Gordon <frich@...>
 

In Yad Vashem's Pages of Testimony there are several that
I believe are related to my parent's families.
One submitter on June 4, 1955, was Melakh UEBERREICH.
His submission was for his father, named Shraga, of Nowy Sacz
who, with wife Malka (nee RINK) were murdered in Belzec in
1942. There was a son Eli, and a daughter Frida, married to
Zkharia KOLBER, who also, I believe suffered the same fate.

I am searching for any members of Melakh UEBERREICH's
family who wish to contact me, because Shraga's parents
were named in the 'pages' as Godl and Liebe , which were
the names of my father's parents >from that locality or, from
Neu Sandec. Shraga and my father Shmuel, born 1860,
also had a brother Chaim. Godl and Shraga were butchers.
Is there anyone who can provide information or suggestions
for further study?

Please respond privately to me at <frich@iinet.net.au>
Thank you in advance,
Gordon RICH, Perth Western Australia


BOF - Ryasna (or Riasna), Mogilev #belarus

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

MIRMOVITSCH / MIRMOVICH / MIRMOVITS

in Ryasna (or Riasna) - Chausy - Mogilev

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem,Israel

Email: jnblank@netvision.net.il


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching for:Melakh UEBERREICH in Israel #belarus

Gordon <frich@...>
 

In Yad Vashem's Pages of Testimony there are several that
I believe are related to my parent's families.
One submitter on June 4, 1955, was Melakh UEBERREICH.
His submission was for his father, named Shraga, of Nowy Sacz
who, with wife Malka (nee RINK) were murdered in Belzec in
1942. There was a son Eli, and a daughter Frida, married to
Zkharia KOLBER, who also, I believe suffered the same fate.

I am searching for any members of Melakh UEBERREICH's
family who wish to contact me, because Shraga's parents
were named in the 'pages' as Godl and Liebe , which were
the names of my father's parents >from that locality or, from
Neu Sandec. Shraga and my father Shmuel, born 1860,
also had a brother Chaim. Godl and Shraga were butchers.
Is there anyone who can provide information or suggestions
for further study?

Please respond privately to me at <frich@iinet.net.au>
Thank you in advance,
Gordon RICH, Perth Western Australia


Belarus SIG #Belarus BOF - Ryasna (or Riasna), Mogilev #belarus

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

MIRMOVITSCH / MIRMOVICH / MIRMOVITS

in Ryasna (or Riasna) - Chausy - Mogilev

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem,Israel

Email: jnblank@netvision.net.il


BOF #belarus

David Komessar <osubuckeye@...>
 

I am interested in being a BOF member for:

Kopatkevichi, Mozyr Usted, Minsk Gubineria

For Surname: Komessar, Komissarczik, Kommisar


BOF corrected #belarus

David Komessar <osubuckeye@...>
 

I have been away >from this for a long time and missed a lot of the talk on
what BOF is and how to get involved.

Kopatkevichi Mozyr Minsk

Researching: Komessar, Komissar, Komissarczik

David Komessar
Needham, MA


Belarus SIG #Belarus BOF #belarus

David Komessar <osubuckeye@...>
 

I am interested in being a BOF member for:

Kopatkevichi, Mozyr Usted, Minsk Gubineria

For Surname: Komessar, Komissarczik, Kommisar


Belarus SIG #Belarus BOF corrected #belarus

David Komessar <osubuckeye@...>
 

I have been away >from this for a long time and missed a lot of the talk on
what BOF is and how to get involved.

Kopatkevichi Mozyr Minsk

Researching: Komessar, Komissar, Komissarczik

David Komessar
Needham, MA