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Is there a repository of names of people who can assist with getting local records? #general #records

YaleZuss@...
 

I suspect the point of the question is whether there is a site somewhere that researchers can use to identify people like Sally Bruckheimer and others who have been helpful, including some who have answered queries I have sent to the group.  If there were such a site, and it matched "experts" to areas of expertise, it would get heavy use, by-passing the hit-or-miss nature of posting here.
 
Yale Zussman


Re: Beth David Cemetery. Elmont, Queens NY #photographs #usa

edlfrank@...
 

while my folks are buried in Bayside, I still must thank you for your service to all of us, especially those who are out of state (like me).  I have no idea where in Bayside they are or else I would send you the info.
Thanks again,
Ed Frank
Sun City Center, FL


Looking for tombstone to take pictures at Har Hazeitim cemetery, Mount Olives, Jerusalem, Israel #israel #photographs

sadror@...
 

Is there anyone familiar with the cemetery in Jerusalem, Israel called Har Hazeitim cemetery, Mount Olives?

I am looking for two people: Yeshaya Leib Kivelewitz and his wife Shoshana Feige Reisel nee Greenberg Kivelewitz. A family member recalls them being buried around in the Lubavitcher section on the South side. I do not have the dates of their death. I would estimate they were born around 1865-1870. 

I dont have much information on the Greenberg family side.

I was told for years that Shoshana and Sonia are sisters. This is not possible because of their age difference.

I have Sonia's birth information: January 28, 1894 in Nova Alekandrovsk, Lithuania. 

According to Sonia’s marriage certificate, her father’s name is Mosche Greenberg and mother's name is Tauve Mesmik. . I am trying to get a picture of Shoshana Kivelewitz’s tombstone in Jerusalem, Israel to verify her father’s name on it to see if it matches with all the documents.
 
We also discovered new information that no one mentioned to me over the years and I didn’t find it in any newspapers. We knew that Sonia Greenberg married to Harry William Penn and they have two sons Arthur Penn and Irving Penn. I learned that she remarried in 1940 to Meyer Helfand so we were able to complete Sonia’s Family Tree. Thanks to the Facebook page of Jewish Genealogy group that gave me this missing puzzle piece! 

Shoshana and Yeshaya have 2 children: my grandfather Yechiel Michel Kivelewitz who was born in 1894 and died in 1961.  Yechiel has a sister Golda nee Kivelewitz Rothman who was born in 1900 and died in 1977. They both were born in Lubatch, Russia. Yechel is buried in Segula Cemetery, Petah Tikva. Golda is buried at Har Hazeitim.

This is a second marriage for Yeshaya with Shoshana. Yeshaya's first wife is Itta Edith and they have 3 children: Breina Kalowitz, David Yitzchak Kalowitz, Frayda Gittel nee Kivelewitz Dvorkas.

I have a DNA match with Dara on Ancestry - we never met each other and she knew about her grandfather Chaim Greenberg from her mother. Her mother is an only child and deceased. Chaim is also from Nova Alekandrovsk and born in 1875. His wife was Cecilia Feinberg. They settled in Philadelphia around the 1910's. Dara knows nothing about Chaim's Greenberg Family.

I SUSPECT that all 3 are siblings: Mosche, Chaim, and Shoshana. And Sonia and Chaim are first cousins. 

Any information would be greatly appreciated. 

Contact Sharon Ann Dror at SADror@... 


Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

lydgateaction@...
 

Quite - to Jeffrey Herrman and the first part of Ari's note. Did anyone else in this thread receive a bombardment of spam messages from Geni yesterday, supposedly under the name of a "Randol Schoenberg" as well as random requests to join trees from the same username. 
 
Weird, and sad. What has genealogy (or something that purports to be genealogy) come to.  

According to a poster in this thread I have no knowledge (or insufficient knowledge of) genealogy - what strange and dare I say ignorant and abusive a comment -- perhaps reflecting the same philosophy Geni applies. Really no way to argue a position. 

Dr Aubrey Blumsohn
Sheffield, UK


Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

zionsharav
 

My concerns about GENI have naught to do with either privacy or religious rituals- I simply don't care.  However, I am deeply disturbed by free-wheeling, often undocumented additions to trees which are posted without restriction.  But GENI is useful in two ways: (1) to get  hints (sometimes weird posts are accurate) (2) to get names of the people who posted- sometimes they are amenable to discussion vis a vis their sources.  But about the LDS- they have done wonderful work in obtaining and filming records as well as in preparing finding aids. We owe them, bigtime   If they want to pray over us, well- be my guest !
-Ari Dale
Vered Jericho, Israel


Polish Translation Request #poland #translation

Tammy
 

Hello,
I would appreciate some help with translating the attached death record of Icko Mejer SHEKHTMAN d.1866 in Wisznice. The index on JRI-Poland gives his parent's first names. I am hoping to learn his mother's maiden name, and a spouse's name, if listed.  It is Akta 2.
Thank you,
Tammy Weingarten


Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

I asked for evidence that Geni is producing progressively more accurate genealogies rather than progressively more inaccurate ones, as the anecdotal evidence of these posts suggests.  Being told that this discussion is like a “religious war” does not advance the search for truth.
Jeffrey Herrmann


Diosad Birth Index from 1867 shown in JewishGen - Tracing the Source #romania #hungary

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,
In JewishGen (under "Hungarian Births") I see this index for this 1867 birth , registered in the town of Diosad, district of Zilah, Country of Szilagy.
The source film is said to be in the Romanian National Archives in Zalau.  

                Advice appreciated - where/how can find the source record? Is it scanned anywhere (e.g LDS)?

Many thanks - Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel


Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Max Heffler
 

This is a “religious” war – much like politics and religion. We have made up our mind about what works for us and nobody will be able to “convert” us – either side - just like politics and religion…

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of E. Randol Schoenberg via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

 

Aubrey, let me know where I can see a superior genealogical tree to what we have on Geni. Many of us who know much more about genealogy than you do are very satisfied working there. 

In fact, to your specific point about the propagation of errors, Geni is actually the best platform to combat those.  By forcing people to work collaboratively (rather than on their own, in ignorance of their own mistakes), Geni allows for the discovery and correction of errors.  It is one of the great ironies that this feature is often misunderstood to be evidence of a problem.  To the contrary, the Geni tree is, almost by definition, far more accurate and complete than any other tree because mistakes are never "propagated" in the manner that you are used to seeing on Ancestry, MyHeritage and other places where people keep private trees.

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Houston, TX
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GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Re: 1940 US Census problem #records #usa

RichardWerbin
 

Richard,
Did you scan to the end of the ED which should have had the address you were searching for? You have to go through every sheet of the ED.
Standard practice for census enumerators was to return to an address if they had missed someone after they finished the ED. They recorded what they found near the end of the records.

Having said that, I can't find my maternal grandparents in the 1930 Census. I found them in Brooklyn on President St. in 1925 and at the same address in 1940. I looked through the entire 1930 ED and do not see that address. Sometimes addresses were missed in the Census.

The bad news for the 2020 Census is that they expect to miss 20% of the population because of the way they are doing the Census now. It was done by mail, online and maybe finally sometimes by an enumerator visiting the household. They also are asking for a minimum amount of information for each household resident. Nothing like the details they asked in 1920 or 1930.
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Richard Werbin    New York, New York     JGSNY Membership Vice President


Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Aubrey, let me know where I can see a superior genealogical tree to what we have on Geni. Many of us who know much more about genealogy than you do are very satisfied working there. 

In fact, to your specific point about the propagation of errors, Geni is actually the best platform to combat those.  By forcing people to work collaboratively (rather than on their own, in ignorance of their own mistakes), Geni allows for the discovery and correction of errors.  It is one of the great ironies that this feature is often misunderstood to be evidence of a problem.  To the contrary, the Geni tree is, almost by definition, far more accurate and complete than any other tree because mistakes are never "propagated" in the manner that you are used to seeing on Ancestry, MyHeritage and other places where people keep private trees.


Re: 1940 US Census problem #records #usa

Cheryl Lynn Blum
 

The same with my father and his parents in Manhattan. I know they were there in 1940 but they are not listed in the Census. I assume the enumerator somehow missed them. The Cross Bronx wasn't started until the early 1950s so it wouldn't have affected any Bronx addresses. You can Google "Bronx Municipal Tax Photos 1940" and search the address so at least you can see the building.


Re: Recommendations for Russian translation service? #translation

Barbara Algaze
 

I have found on the October 26 JewishGen Digest five or six Russian documents, posted on View Mate, translated in depth by  ryabinkym@...

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:33 AM, <ryabinkym@...> wrote:
Michael Ryabinky You might want to contact him directly.
Barbara Algaze
Los Angeles, California


Nov. 3: CJH Genealogy Coffee Break #announcements #events

Moriah Amit
 

Next Tuesday (11/3) at 3:30 pm ET, tune into the Center for Jewish History's Facebook page for the next episode of Genealogy Coffee Break. Our genealogy librarian, J.D. Arden, and guest speaker, Ilya Slavutskiy from Rutgers University, will discuss the meaning and significance of pogroms in Jewish history. To join the live webinar, click "Follow" on the top of the Center's Facebook page and a notification will pop up on your screen when the webinar goes live. Note: If the notification doesn't appear, you can also find the webinar on our Facebook videos page once it goes live. Catch up on the entire series here

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Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY
mamit@...


Re: Recommendations for Russian translation service? #translation

Teewinot
 

Facebook has two groups: "Tracing the Tribe" and "Genealogical
Translations."

Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida


On 10/30/2020 12:33 PM, Barbara Algaze wrote:
*From:* Yana Semenyuk <yana.semenyuk.v@...
<mailto:yana.semenyuk.v@...>>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020

Do you know any forums where people need a translator from Russian to
English for documents like this? I would love to join and participate in
discussions.

Barbara Algaze  <Algaze3@... <mailto:Algaze3@...> >

Yana is a member of the LDS Church who served a mission in Los Angeles.
She helped our JGS members with translations from Russian to English.
She has returned to Russia and sent the (above) message.
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Re: 1940 US Census problem #records #usa

David Oseas
 

Richard,

If she was in the same location in 1940 as she was in 1930, try searching the 1940 census for her neighbors (particularly those with uncommon names).   If you can't find any of them in 1940, there is a good chance that the block or apartment building was missed during enumeration.

Regards,
David Oseas


Re: Is there a repository of names of people who can assist with getting local records? #general #records

Sally Bruckheimer
 

In my experience, Jewishgen is a great source. People have contacted me about things in the area of my signature at the time, and I have gotten them stuff.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: 1940 US Census problem #records #usa

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

I don't know if the area in the Bronx that you're searching fits but the Cross Bronx Expressway obliterated large areas of apartment housing
If you can compare her location from right after WWII and around 1950 when they started working on the road it might help you
Deanna Levinsky
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Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY


Re: Looking for Herman/Hyman Wayler on ships manifest #general #lithuania

Sherri Bobish
 


Barbara,

SteveMorse's search pages are the gold standard for flexible name searching.  Ancestry has a good soundex search capability on both first names and surnames.  On FamilySearch if you do not tick the "exact" box than it does a more flexible search, however in my opinion the Ancestry soundex search is better.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Recommendations for Russian translation service? #translation

Barbara Algaze
 

From: Yana Semenyuk <yana.semenyuk.v@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020

Do you know any forums where people need a translator from Russian to English for documents like this? I would love to join and participate in discussions.

Barbara Algaze  <Algaze3@... >

 

Yana is a member of the LDS Church who served a mission in Los Angeles.  She helped our JGS members with translations from Russian to English. She has returned to Russia and sent the (above) message.

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