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Map of Budapest main cemetery #hungary

Peter Spiro <avnesho@...>
 

I have posted a copy of the map at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/KozmaCemetMap.jpg

Some more information, including how to get to the cemetery and some
photographs, can be found at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/kisphotos.htm

The office is located at the side of the large white building. They have a
computerized database with all the names of people buried there. (You can
get copies of this map there.)


Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

Michael Gordy
 

The main possibility in the Czech Republic is Boskowitz (now Boskovice) in Moravia.
The Jewish community there was rather large in the early 1800s.

-- Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, MD
Researching: SCHOENBRUN, KESZLER (Zemplen megye); FRIEDMAN (Tisza Ujlak)

At 12:00 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote:
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest. There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. Where is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Julie MALTZ BORMAN
MALTZ,MALCZ,MOSKOVITZ,ENGEL,SCHWARTZ,ROSENBAUM,SIMONOVITZ,GROSZ,KESZTENBAUM,TURK,SPATZ,LILIENTHAL

Moderator VK: Check out Nagy Bochksa, which is now divided between Romania and the Ukraine. Leslie Gyi has more info at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poienile/Bocicoia_Mare.htm
Other possibilities are Bokske in Tolna megye and Bocska in Zala megye.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Map of Budapest main cemetery #hungary

Peter Spiro <avnesho@...>
 

I have posted a copy of the map at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/KozmaCemetMap.jpg

Some more information, including how to get to the cemetery and some
photographs, can be found at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/kisphotos.htm

The office is located at the side of the large white building. They have a
computerized database with all the names of people buried there. (You can
get copies of this map there.)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

Michael Gordy
 

The main possibility in the Czech Republic is Boskowitz (now Boskovice) in Moravia.
The Jewish community there was rather large in the early 1800s.

-- Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, MD
Researching: SCHOENBRUN, KESZLER (Zemplen megye); FRIEDMAN (Tisza Ujlak)

At 12:00 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote:
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest. There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. Where is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Julie MALTZ BORMAN
MALTZ,MALCZ,MOSKOVITZ,ENGEL,SCHWARTZ,ROSENBAUM,SIMONOVITZ,GROSZ,KESZTENBAUM,TURK,SPATZ,LILIENTHAL

Moderator VK: Check out Nagy Bochksa, which is now divided between Romania and the Ukraine. Leslie Gyi has more info at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poienile/Bocicoia_Mare.htm
Other possibilities are Bokske in Tolna megye and Bocska in Zala megye.
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Re: h-sig digest: February 19, 2003 #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Bs"d

Boskowitz is German name for Boskovice in Moravia, Czech Republic. There=
was =

a very old Jewish community. =

See on www:
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/TOWNS/Boskovice.htm
Best wishes,

Dan Polakovic, Prague


Subject: Where is Boscovitz?
From: BORMANJL@aol.com
Hello,
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)P=
est. =

There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. W=
here =

is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any =

suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.


ROTH - NJ Records #hungary

jps
 

Peter,

Try www.state.nj.us/health

If death is >40 yrs ago just need name, year and county. They will
search multiple years for extra $1 per year (and perhaps multiple counties).

Meanwhile, if you (or anyone else) find an Augusta Roth (nee Blau or
Salzman, later married a Wolf, and a Brown) who came to NY after death of
husband Baruch (Bernat) >from Ungvar, Hungary somewhere around 1880 with 4
daughters:
Rosa (Jenny?) (m Przeworski 1891 but family eventually adopted
surname of Roth)
Rachel (m Weinberg)
Katherine (m Mittleman)
Henrietta (Tanta Yetta) (m Klein)

John Segedy


Subject: Basic Query
From: "Peter & Lynette Deutsch" <mail@pldeutsch.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:26:18 -0000
X-Message-Number: 5

I'm searching for information on Joseph ROTH and his wife ( nee KRAUSS).
Relatives who went >from Hungary to New York around 1890. Both died there. As
I don't have the town they came from, or dates of birth I suspect these
would be on the death records. I do have dates when they passed away. Is
there a central office in New Jersey ( where I understand they ended up)
where I can start? Any pointers gratefully received. Thanks. Peter Deutsch
( London)

Moderator VK: You may have a difficult time finding these relatives given
that you have very little info and the names are very common. (I have two
different ROTH families in my own tree including one that lived in New
Jersey.) I would start by checking the Ellis Island records to see if you
can them on the passenger manifest. You should also check the Social
Security Death Index to see if there is a listing for a Joseph ROTH who died
in New Jersey. If these people died in New Jersey you would be able to
obtain death certificates >from the State of NJ or the county in NJ where the
death occurred. They will not be able to help you, however, unless you can
provide additional info.


Re: Festpredikt etc. #hungary

George Mandler <gmandler@...>
 

Festpredikt is best translated as "celebratory sermon", i.e., a special
sermon (Predikt)

Vier perdikter - Vier is German but perdikter is not, if it were prediger
it would mean "Four preachers"

George Mandler
La Jolla, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: February 19, 2003 #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Bs"d

Boskowitz is German name for Boskovice in Moravia, Czech Republic. There=
was =

a very old Jewish community. =

See on www:
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/TOWNS/Boskovice.htm
Best wishes,

Dan Polakovic, Prague


Subject: Where is Boscovitz?
From: BORMANJL@aol.com
Hello,
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)P=
est. =

There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. W=
here =

is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any =

suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.


Hungary SIG #Hungary ROTH - NJ Records #hungary

jps
 

Peter,

Try www.state.nj.us/health

If death is >40 yrs ago just need name, year and county. They will
search multiple years for extra $1 per year (and perhaps multiple counties).

Meanwhile, if you (or anyone else) find an Augusta Roth (nee Blau or
Salzman, later married a Wolf, and a Brown) who came to NY after death of
husband Baruch (Bernat) >from Ungvar, Hungary somewhere around 1880 with 4
daughters:
Rosa (Jenny?) (m Przeworski 1891 but family eventually adopted
surname of Roth)
Rachel (m Weinberg)
Katherine (m Mittleman)
Henrietta (Tanta Yetta) (m Klein)

John Segedy


Subject: Basic Query
From: "Peter & Lynette Deutsch" <mail@pldeutsch.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:26:18 -0000
X-Message-Number: 5

I'm searching for information on Joseph ROTH and his wife ( nee KRAUSS).
Relatives who went >from Hungary to New York around 1890. Both died there. As
I don't have the town they came from, or dates of birth I suspect these
would be on the death records. I do have dates when they passed away. Is
there a central office in New Jersey ( where I understand they ended up)
where I can start? Any pointers gratefully received. Thanks. Peter Deutsch
( London)

Moderator VK: You may have a difficult time finding these relatives given
that you have very little info and the names are very common. (I have two
different ROTH families in my own tree including one that lived in New
Jersey.) I would start by checking the Ellis Island records to see if you
can them on the passenger manifest. You should also check the Social
Security Death Index to see if there is a listing for a Joseph ROTH who died
in New Jersey. If these people died in New Jersey you would be able to
obtain death certificates >from the State of NJ or the county in NJ where the
death occurred. They will not be able to help you, however, unless you can
provide additional info.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Festpredikt etc. #hungary

George Mandler <gmandler@...>
 

Festpredikt is best translated as "celebratory sermon", i.e., a special
sermon (Predikt)

Vier perdikter - Vier is German but perdikter is not, if it were prediger
it would mean "Four preachers"

George Mandler
La Jolla, CA


Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

It could be Bozovics, which is in Transylvania.

Attila Rona


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

It could be Bozovics, which is in Transylvania.

Attila Rona


Austro-Hungarian Army 1914-1918 #galicia

Edward Goldstein <edwardg2@...>
 

I have tried to obtain records of my father's service in the
K.u.K.(Kaiserlich und Koeniglich, i.e., Imperial and Royal)
Austro-Hungarian Army during the First World War. He had been
recruited in Galicia. (At the beginning of WW I, the K.u.K. Army
consisted of units made up of the non-Austrian, non-Hungarian
nationalities of the Empire, including Galicia, but mainly officered
by Austrians.)

It turns out that, after the end of WW I, the records of soldiers
recruited outside of Austria proper were transmitted to the new
governments of the territories >from where the soldiers were
recruited. As best as I could determine, none of the records >from
Galicia seem to have survived.

As recently as November 2002, I sent a letter to the Polish Central
Archives (Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, PL-00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w);
it was written in Polish, but I received no acknowledgement whatever.

I would be interested if anyone else has been able to obtain such
records and how they went about it.

Edward Goldstein
Brookline, MA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Austro-Hungarian Army 1914-1918 #galicia

Edward Goldstein <edwardg2@...>
 

I have tried to obtain records of my father's service in the
K.u.K.(Kaiserlich und Koeniglich, i.e., Imperial and Royal)
Austro-Hungarian Army during the First World War. He had been
recruited in Galicia. (At the beginning of WW I, the K.u.K. Army
consisted of units made up of the non-Austrian, non-Hungarian
nationalities of the Empire, including Galicia, but mainly officered
by Austrians.)

It turns out that, after the end of WW I, the records of soldiers
recruited outside of Austria proper were transmitted to the new
governments of the territories >from where the soldiers were
recruited. As best as I could determine, none of the records >from
Galicia seem to have survived.

As recently as November 2002, I sent a letter to the Polish Central
Archives (Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, PL-00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w);
it was written in Polish, but I received no acknowledgement whatever.

I would be interested if anyone else has been able to obtain such
records and how they went about it.

Edward Goldstein
Brookline, MA


Lancut list - response to Lawrence #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Dearc Lawrence,

This is an index of all names mentioned in the text of
the book, not a list of Lancut residents or victims
only.

While almost all names on the list relate directly to
Lancut, it also includes names of prominent Jews as
well as Poles, both contemporary to the authors as
well as historical figures, who were not Lancuters but
the text included references to them.

Peter Jassem

Lawrence W. White wrote: > Peter:

I have just received my copy of GG and note some
very prominent Jewish
literary names in the Lancut Yizkor book, including
Martin Buber, SY Agnon,
Shalom Asch, Chaim Nachman Bialik, Shalom Aleichem,
YL Peretz. This reads
like a Whos Who of Jewish literary and philosophic
thought >from Eastern
Europe in the last 100 years. I assume they are not
all >from Lancut, (if so,
there must be something very special there), though
I believe all had some
connection with or lived for a time in Galicia. Any
insights?

______________________________________________________________________
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Lancut list - response to Lawrence #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Dearc Lawrence,

This is an index of all names mentioned in the text of
the book, not a list of Lancut residents or victims
only.

While almost all names on the list relate directly to
Lancut, it also includes names of prominent Jews as
well as Poles, both contemporary to the authors as
well as historical figures, who were not Lancuters but
the text included references to them.

Peter Jassem

Lawrence W. White wrote: > Peter:

I have just received my copy of GG and note some
very prominent Jewish
literary names in the Lancut Yizkor book, including
Martin Buber, SY Agnon,
Shalom Asch, Chaim Nachman Bialik, Shalom Aleichem,
YL Peretz. This reads
like a Whos Who of Jewish literary and philosophic
thought >from Eastern
Europe in the last 100 years. I assume they are not
all >from Lancut, (if so,
there must be something very special there), though
I believe all had some
connection with or lived for a time in Galicia. Any
insights?

______________________________________________________________________
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca


Re: Pisha Paysha Card Game--Instructions? #galicia

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Would any of the pisha paysha mavens be willing to teach me how to play
the game via e-mail? I remember my dad talking about it, but somehow we kids
never learned. I have my own kids now, and I think it would be something
fun to teach them, not only for the fun value, but also the cultural value of
passing a Jewish game down a generation.

Thanks very much!!

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins, CO

Researching: KANFER, NUDELSTEIN: Galicia/UKR
USVYATSKY: Belarus
KARP, MAKAROVSKY, GELMAN, ROSENSTEIN, GRINBERG,
WEINER, CZORNYI: Ukraine

[MODERATOR NOTE: Please answer privately]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Card Game--Instructions? #galicia

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Would any of the pisha paysha mavens be willing to teach me how to play
the game via e-mail? I remember my dad talking about it, but somehow we kids
never learned. I have my own kids now, and I think it would be something
fun to teach them, not only for the fun value, but also the cultural value of
passing a Jewish game down a generation.

Thanks very much!!

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins, CO

Researching: KANFER, NUDELSTEIN: Galicia/UKR
USVYATSKY: Belarus
KARP, MAKAROVSKY, GELMAN, ROSENSTEIN, GRINBERG,
WEINER, CZORNYI: Ukraine

[MODERATOR NOTE: Please answer privately]


Matt Singer - Tuch Family #lithuania

Allan Freedman <afreedman@...>
 

My father's maternal family name was Tuch, living mainly in Zhidikai
(Zidik) in NW Lithuania. The earliest connection we have made is our
gggf Grisha (Hirsh?) Tuch who probably was born in the 1820s. He had
three sons: Jacob (Yanko), Feivish and Gershon. Jacob had six children,
including my Bobba Malka. We know very little about his brothers.

The interesting thing is that I know of another Tuch family with strong
connections to Zidik. A few years ago I was sent their detailed outline
tree but I could find no relationships at all with our quite
comprehensive information. I find this very strange considering that
Zidik was a very small shtetl - I believe I've seen an estimate of 2000
Jews at the peak.

Allan Freedman
Toronto.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Matt Singer - Tuch Family #lithuania

Allan Freedman <afreedman@...>
 

My father's maternal family name was Tuch, living mainly in Zhidikai
(Zidik) in NW Lithuania. The earliest connection we have made is our
gggf Grisha (Hirsh?) Tuch who probably was born in the 1820s. He had
three sons: Jacob (Yanko), Feivish and Gershon. Jacob had six children,
including my Bobba Malka. We know very little about his brothers.

The interesting thing is that I know of another Tuch family with strong
connections to Zidik. A few years ago I was sent their detailed outline
tree but I could find no relationships at all with our quite
comprehensive information. I find this very strange considering that
Zidik was a very small shtetl - I believe I've seen an estimate of 2000
Jews at the peak.

Allan Freedman
Toronto.