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Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

It could be Bozovics, which is in Transylvania.

Attila Rona


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

It could be Bozovics, which is in Transylvania.

Attila Rona


Austro-Hungarian Army 1914-1918 #galicia

Edward Goldstein <edwardg2@...>
 

I have tried to obtain records of my father's service in the
K.u.K.(Kaiserlich und Koeniglich, i.e., Imperial and Royal)
Austro-Hungarian Army during the First World War. He had been
recruited in Galicia. (At the beginning of WW I, the K.u.K. Army
consisted of units made up of the non-Austrian, non-Hungarian
nationalities of the Empire, including Galicia, but mainly officered
by Austrians.)

It turns out that, after the end of WW I, the records of soldiers
recruited outside of Austria proper were transmitted to the new
governments of the territories >from where the soldiers were
recruited. As best as I could determine, none of the records >from
Galicia seem to have survived.

As recently as November 2002, I sent a letter to the Polish Central
Archives (Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, PL-00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w);
it was written in Polish, but I received no acknowledgement whatever.

I would be interested if anyone else has been able to obtain such
records and how they went about it.

Edward Goldstein
Brookline, MA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Austro-Hungarian Army 1914-1918 #galicia

Edward Goldstein <edwardg2@...>
 

I have tried to obtain records of my father's service in the
K.u.K.(Kaiserlich und Koeniglich, i.e., Imperial and Royal)
Austro-Hungarian Army during the First World War. He had been
recruited in Galicia. (At the beginning of WW I, the K.u.K. Army
consisted of units made up of the non-Austrian, non-Hungarian
nationalities of the Empire, including Galicia, but mainly officered
by Austrians.)

It turns out that, after the end of WW I, the records of soldiers
recruited outside of Austria proper were transmitted to the new
governments of the territories >from where the soldiers were
recruited. As best as I could determine, none of the records >from
Galicia seem to have survived.

As recently as November 2002, I sent a letter to the Polish Central
Archives (Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, PL-00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w);
it was written in Polish, but I received no acknowledgement whatever.

I would be interested if anyone else has been able to obtain such
records and how they went about it.

Edward Goldstein
Brookline, MA


Lancut list - response to Lawrence #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Dearc Lawrence,

This is an index of all names mentioned in the text of
the book, not a list of Lancut residents or victims
only.

While almost all names on the list relate directly to
Lancut, it also includes names of prominent Jews as
well as Poles, both contemporary to the authors as
well as historical figures, who were not Lancuters but
the text included references to them.

Peter Jassem

Lawrence W. White wrote: > Peter:

I have just received my copy of GG and note some
very prominent Jewish
literary names in the Lancut Yizkor book, including
Martin Buber, SY Agnon,
Shalom Asch, Chaim Nachman Bialik, Shalom Aleichem,
YL Peretz. This reads
like a Whos Who of Jewish literary and philosophic
thought >from Eastern
Europe in the last 100 years. I assume they are not
all >from Lancut, (if so,
there must be something very special there), though
I believe all had some
connection with or lived for a time in Galicia. Any
insights?

______________________________________________________________________
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Lancut list - response to Lawrence #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Dearc Lawrence,

This is an index of all names mentioned in the text of
the book, not a list of Lancut residents or victims
only.

While almost all names on the list relate directly to
Lancut, it also includes names of prominent Jews as
well as Poles, both contemporary to the authors as
well as historical figures, who were not Lancuters but
the text included references to them.

Peter Jassem

Lawrence W. White wrote: > Peter:

I have just received my copy of GG and note some
very prominent Jewish
literary names in the Lancut Yizkor book, including
Martin Buber, SY Agnon,
Shalom Asch, Chaim Nachman Bialik, Shalom Aleichem,
YL Peretz. This reads
like a Whos Who of Jewish literary and philosophic
thought >from Eastern
Europe in the last 100 years. I assume they are not
all >from Lancut, (if so,
there must be something very special there), though
I believe all had some
connection with or lived for a time in Galicia. Any
insights?

______________________________________________________________________
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca


Re: Pisha Paysha Card Game--Instructions? #galicia

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Would any of the pisha paysha mavens be willing to teach me how to play
the game via e-mail? I remember my dad talking about it, but somehow we kids
never learned. I have my own kids now, and I think it would be something
fun to teach them, not only for the fun value, but also the cultural value of
passing a Jewish game down a generation.

Thanks very much!!

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins, CO

Researching: KANFER, NUDELSTEIN: Galicia/UKR
USVYATSKY: Belarus
KARP, MAKAROVSKY, GELMAN, ROSENSTEIN, GRINBERG,
WEINER, CZORNYI: Ukraine

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Card Game--Instructions? #galicia

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Would any of the pisha paysha mavens be willing to teach me how to play
the game via e-mail? I remember my dad talking about it, but somehow we kids
never learned. I have my own kids now, and I think it would be something
fun to teach them, not only for the fun value, but also the cultural value of
passing a Jewish game down a generation.

Thanks very much!!

Judy Petersen
Ft. Collins, CO

Researching: KANFER, NUDELSTEIN: Galicia/UKR
USVYATSKY: Belarus
KARP, MAKAROVSKY, GELMAN, ROSENSTEIN, GRINBERG,
WEINER, CZORNYI: Ukraine

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Matt Singer - Tuch Family #lithuania

Allan Freedman <afreedman@...>
 

My father's maternal family name was Tuch, living mainly in Zhidikai
(Zidik) in NW Lithuania. The earliest connection we have made is our
gggf Grisha (Hirsh?) Tuch who probably was born in the 1820s. He had
three sons: Jacob (Yanko), Feivish and Gershon. Jacob had six children,
including my Bobba Malka. We know very little about his brothers.

The interesting thing is that I know of another Tuch family with strong
connections to Zidik. A few years ago I was sent their detailed outline
tree but I could find no relationships at all with our quite
comprehensive information. I find this very strange considering that
Zidik was a very small shtetl - I believe I've seen an estimate of 2000
Jews at the peak.

Allan Freedman
Toronto.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Matt Singer - Tuch Family #lithuania

Allan Freedman <afreedman@...>
 

My father's maternal family name was Tuch, living mainly in Zhidikai
(Zidik) in NW Lithuania. The earliest connection we have made is our
gggf Grisha (Hirsh?) Tuch who probably was born in the 1820s. He had
three sons: Jacob (Yanko), Feivish and Gershon. Jacob had six children,
including my Bobba Malka. We know very little about his brothers.

The interesting thing is that I know of another Tuch family with strong
connections to Zidik. A few years ago I was sent their detailed outline
tree but I could find no relationships at all with our quite
comprehensive information. I find this very strange considering that
Zidik was a very small shtetl - I believe I've seen an estimate of 2000
Jews at the peak.

Allan Freedman
Toronto.


List of Names in Vital Records #lithuania

sman@...
 

I have 26 pages of vital records >from the Vilnius Archives >from 1809 to
1913. These include birth, death, marriage, revision lists. I have found
the following surnames. If any of these are yours please write to me
privately and I will be happy to give you (free!!) a copy of the page. I
can give a scanned original as well as a translation.

Thanks
Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

1809 - Lipman, Notel, Pihes, Poliak, Shi, Zalkind

1816 - Apelbaum, Brodner, Burdash, Daron, Dobrovolskii, Epul

1834 - Bom Grobstein, Lukisker, Marel, Palovinnik, Pors, Shliahter

1842 - Gidelbur, Kremova, Lerner, Mener, Prudzan, Rahil, Sandler,
Zlarishkovicha

1845 - Barter, Bastman, Burman, Ginsberg, Grishnesa, Gushav, Keidan,
Kliachko, Kogan, Lapidos, Maizal, Medels, Minech, Noer, Pilnik, Smorgan,
Svirlish, Valnichik, Vatlin, Virshup, Zaltkin

1848 - Ashiferdash, Bilitz, Buslav, Dustan, Epstein, Gastman, Ginsburg,
Keshzer, Kliachko, Meerovich, Narunik, Pianskii, Selel, Slutskii,
Zalmoviskii

1849 - Amshterdam, Blinzberg, Buslav, Gastman, Michalel, Miron, Mitskun,
Nemzer, Pumnovich, Rabinovitz, Rozenshtal, Shapiro, Shubashnik, Siliosberg, Vitkomir, Zeltzer

1850 - Alsh, Berezhnitskii Berkovich Buglov Feigeson Galperin Gastman Gertz Gindsber Hastin Iamdan Katz Kelmi Lapidon Marech Miron Pemzer Pindler Polet Purmash Rabinovitz Rubke Selvich Tarvitz Tarvitz Telal

1851 - Gurlaid Kinigsberg Navtovich Netizer Strashun

1852 - Brusbror Buslav David Dimon Dimon Garmash Ginsberg Goroditz
Kliobanski Miron Morich Pilnik Sheveliovich Stogen

1853 - Berger Gamburg Keltinskii Kuznitz Murash Nash Natel Nover Safur
Yadlovich Zalkind Zamerd

1882 - Farber Ginber Poliak Rabinovich Shnaider

1886 - Derchanskii Pipuhovskii Poliak Rabinovitz Shik Slonimchik

1889 - Noer Novogrudskii P’eher Segal Shabad Shames

1897 - Abramovich Blumental Boiarskii Borov Buzgan Chustand Naer Neir
Novogrudskii Reitenberg Zarhii

1899 - Ebis Livshitz Noer Shur

1902 - Chernuskaia Gurvich Keidan Kravchinskaia Markovich Shuster
Tsesianskii

1903 - Gershonovich Gordon Shapiro

1904- Efron(Rabbi) Gershater Goldfarb Parus Rudomin Shvidler Zevin

1905 - Muliar Mizeretz Gershaize

1906 - Bloh Chernuskaia Efron Fridberg Gelfer Gordon Kantor Merk Miheles
Mirman

1909 - Bentsianovski Glas Grinshpun Levin Vainman

1911 - Baltman Raichel

1913 - Arluk Bukatman Spokoinii Vainerman


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania List of Names in Vital Records #lithuania

sman@...
 

I have 26 pages of vital records >from the Vilnius Archives >from 1809 to
1913. These include birth, death, marriage, revision lists. I have found
the following surnames. If any of these are yours please write to me
privately and I will be happy to give you (free!!) a copy of the page. I
can give a scanned original as well as a translation.

Thanks
Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

1809 - Lipman, Notel, Pihes, Poliak, Shi, Zalkind

1816 - Apelbaum, Brodner, Burdash, Daron, Dobrovolskii, Epul

1834 - Bom Grobstein, Lukisker, Marel, Palovinnik, Pors, Shliahter

1842 - Gidelbur, Kremova, Lerner, Mener, Prudzan, Rahil, Sandler,
Zlarishkovicha

1845 - Barter, Bastman, Burman, Ginsberg, Grishnesa, Gushav, Keidan,
Kliachko, Kogan, Lapidos, Maizal, Medels, Minech, Noer, Pilnik, Smorgan,
Svirlish, Valnichik, Vatlin, Virshup, Zaltkin

1848 - Ashiferdash, Bilitz, Buslav, Dustan, Epstein, Gastman, Ginsburg,
Keshzer, Kliachko, Meerovich, Narunik, Pianskii, Selel, Slutskii,
Zalmoviskii

1849 - Amshterdam, Blinzberg, Buslav, Gastman, Michalel, Miron, Mitskun,
Nemzer, Pumnovich, Rabinovitz, Rozenshtal, Shapiro, Shubashnik, Siliosberg, Vitkomir, Zeltzer

1850 - Alsh, Berezhnitskii Berkovich Buglov Feigeson Galperin Gastman Gertz Gindsber Hastin Iamdan Katz Kelmi Lapidon Marech Miron Pemzer Pindler Polet Purmash Rabinovitz Rubke Selvich Tarvitz Tarvitz Telal

1851 - Gurlaid Kinigsberg Navtovich Netizer Strashun

1852 - Brusbror Buslav David Dimon Dimon Garmash Ginsberg Goroditz
Kliobanski Miron Morich Pilnik Sheveliovich Stogen

1853 - Berger Gamburg Keltinskii Kuznitz Murash Nash Natel Nover Safur
Yadlovich Zalkind Zamerd

1882 - Farber Ginber Poliak Rabinovich Shnaider

1886 - Derchanskii Pipuhovskii Poliak Rabinovitz Shik Slonimchik

1889 - Noer Novogrudskii P’eher Segal Shabad Shames

1897 - Abramovich Blumental Boiarskii Borov Buzgan Chustand Naer Neir
Novogrudskii Reitenberg Zarhii

1899 - Ebis Livshitz Noer Shur

1902 - Chernuskaia Gurvich Keidan Kravchinskaia Markovich Shuster
Tsesianskii

1903 - Gershonovich Gordon Shapiro

1904- Efron(Rabbi) Gershater Goldfarb Parus Rudomin Shvidler Zevin

1905 - Muliar Mizeretz Gershaize

1906 - Bloh Chernuskaia Efron Fridberg Gelfer Gordon Kantor Merk Miheles
Mirman

1909 - Bentsianovski Glas Grinshpun Levin Vainman

1911 - Baltman Raichel

1913 - Arluk Bukatman Spokoinii Vainerman


New to the group! #galicia

Caroline Stanley <caroline_stanley@...>
 

Hello

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for few
months. I consider myself to be a novice in doing research. I live in
Memphis, TN in USA. My native language is English and I also know French.

I have identified the some information about my great grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out about my grandfather, Samuel
BERGER, born in Rawa Ruska Poland in the 1890's (I'm estimating).

The family names and towns that I am researching are:

BERGER - Samuel BERGER born in Rawa Ruska, Poland and immigrated to
Germany. Lived in Cologne in 1929.

REICH- Gitla REICH born in Germany and then resided in Cologne sometimes
before giving birth to her first son, Jakob, in 1929. She was wed to
Samuel BERGER before 1929 and probably married in Cologne.

I look forward to future discussion with the group.

Caroline Stanley
caroline_stanley@hotmail.com"
Memphis, TN, USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia New to the group! #galicia

Caroline Stanley <caroline_stanley@...>
 

Hello

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for few
months. I consider myself to be a novice in doing research. I live in
Memphis, TN in USA. My native language is English and I also know French.

I have identified the some information about my great grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out about my grandfather, Samuel
BERGER, born in Rawa Ruska Poland in the 1890's (I'm estimating).

The family names and towns that I am researching are:

BERGER - Samuel BERGER born in Rawa Ruska, Poland and immigrated to
Germany. Lived in Cologne in 1929.

REICH- Gitla REICH born in Germany and then resided in Cologne sometimes
before giving birth to her first son, Jakob, in 1929. She was wed to
Samuel BERGER before 1929 and probably married in Cologne.

I look forward to future discussion with the group.

Caroline Stanley
caroline_stanley@hotmail.com"
Memphis, TN, USA


Rosa Kahn - New Jersey #lithuania

bubbles@...
 

Rabbi Shimon Sheima Lourie (1836-1908) had a son Avraham Yechetzkel who died in Lithuania circa 1879 leaving a posthumous son who was also called Avraham Yechetzkel known as Chatzkel or Edward. Avraham Yechetzkel’s widow Rosa (maiden name unknown) then married a Mr Kahn and went to live in New Jersey and had other children.

Edward, the posthumous son, was brought up by his aunt Sara Lurie and her
husband Chaim Leib. They migrated to South Africa sometime in the early
1890’s.

If anyone knows this Kahn family, could you please contact me.

Thank you

Bubbles Segall

Researching LURIE, LOURIE, BRASH, SHARFANOVICH, SEGAL, SEGALL

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rosa Kahn - New Jersey #lithuania

bubbles@...
 

Rabbi Shimon Sheima Lourie (1836-1908) had a son Avraham Yechetzkel who died in Lithuania circa 1879 leaving a posthumous son who was also called Avraham Yechetzkel known as Chatzkel or Edward. Avraham Yechetzkel’s widow Rosa (maiden name unknown) then married a Mr Kahn and went to live in New Jersey and had other children.

Edward, the posthumous son, was brought up by his aunt Sara Lurie and her
husband Chaim Leib. They migrated to South Africa sometime in the early
1890’s.

If anyone knows this Kahn family, could you please contact me.

Thank you

Bubbles Segall

Researching LURIE, LOURIE, BRASH, SHARFANOVICH, SEGAL, SEGALL

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Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Could this term "pfeifenbeschlager" in some remote way refer to a musician
who plays
an Organ? (concrete translation indicates a "pipe hitter").. Logically, it
appears to
relate to a pipe fitter or manufacturer of some type of pipes...( "pfeife"
also is a term
for "whistle'' , and for a tobacco pipe).
Perhaps someone on the Rootswebcom..Old German list group may have access
to old German terms for occupations, which may shed some insight .
Kitty

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Could this term "pfeifenbeschlager" in some remote way refer to a musician
who plays
an Organ? (concrete translation indicates a "pipe hitter").. Logically, it
appears to
relate to a pipe fitter or manufacturer of some type of pipes...( "pfeife"
also is a term
for "whistle'' , and for a tobacco pipe).
Perhaps someone on the Rootswebcom..Old German list group may have access
to old German terms for occupations, which may shed some insight .
Kitty

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Re: Samogitia #lithuania

Msinger23@...
 

Dear Litvak SIGers:

This discussion of Samogitia prompts me to revisit a question I originally posted some time ago: is anyone aware of specific events ca. 1838 that would have forced and/or encouraged Jews >from Courland (or, possibly, East Prussia)to relocate to Samogitia? According to oral history, my SINGER ancestors migrated >from "Germany" (a descriptive that could, more or less accurately, apply to East Prussia or Courland) to northwestern Lithuania at that time.

Thank you for your attention and any assistance!

--Matt Singer
Philadelphia
Researching: SINGER, GERBER, GARONZIK, TUCH, KLEINMAN, BLAU, RINGER, TOOR, all >from northwestern Lithuania and southwestern Latvia


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Samogitia #lithuania

Msinger23@...
 

Dear Litvak SIGers:

This discussion of Samogitia prompts me to revisit a question I originally posted some time ago: is anyone aware of specific events ca. 1838 that would have forced and/or encouraged Jews >from Courland (or, possibly, East Prussia)to relocate to Samogitia? According to oral history, my SINGER ancestors migrated >from "Germany" (a descriptive that could, more or less accurately, apply to East Prussia or Courland) to northwestern Lithuania at that time.

Thank you for your attention and any assistance!

--Matt Singer
Philadelphia
Researching: SINGER, GERBER, GARONZIK, TUCH, KLEINMAN, BLAU, RINGER, TOOR, all >from northwestern Lithuania and southwestern Latvia