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Re: Yad Vashem Project to Identity 80% of Hungarian Jews Murdered in Holocaust #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

I have been comparing results >from the Yad Vashem database and the US
Holocaust Memorial Museum Holocaust Survivors and Victims Database. In
the case of a husband and wife who were deported to Sobibor, appears that
USHMM has information that is not in the Yad Vashem database. USHMM had
specific birth dates for the couple. Source is identified as a pre-
deportation Slovak Census. All I found at Yad Vashem was duplicate Pages
of Testimony submitted by the husband's cousin.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yad Vashem Project to Identity 80% of Hungarian Jews Murdered in Holocaust #general

Vivian Kahn
 

I have been comparing results >from the Yad Vashem database and the US
Holocaust Memorial Museum Holocaust Survivors and Victims Database. In
the case of a husband and wife who were deported to Sobibor, appears that
USHMM has information that is not in the Yad Vashem database. USHMM had
specific birth dates for the couple. Source is identified as a pre-
deportation Slovak Census. All I found at Yad Vashem was duplicate Pages
of Testimony submitted by the husband's cousin.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California


JGS of Maryland October 29 program #general

Susan Steeble
 

Speaker: Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull
Title: "Discovering Your Lost Jewish Heritage through Y-DNA"
Date and Time: Sunday, October 29, 2017, 1:30 p.m.
Location: Pikesville Library's meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Rd,
Pikesville, MD

Please join us on Sunday, October 29, 2017, at 1:30 p.m., at the
Pikesville Librarys meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Road, Pikesville,
to hear Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull present "Discovering Your Lost Jewish
Heritage through Y-DNA."

For centuries, Jews have sought their yichus by connecting themselves
to rabbinical families, either through marriage, or by paper trail.
Thanks to recent advances in genetic genealogy and DNA technology,
this is now possible to do for many more individuals of Jewish descent
than ever before.

The goal of Dr. Paull's Y-DNA research studies is to identify the
Y-DNA genetic signatures of some of Jewry's most renowned tzaddiks and
historic rabbinical families. Anyone who matches one of these Y-DNA
genetic signatures shares a common paternal ancestor with them.
Identifying that common ancestor would enable one to link to a
pedigree and paper trail that may be many centuries old.

This presentation covers the following topics: why the study of the
world's historic rabbinical lineages and dynasties is so important to
Jewish genealogy; how Y-DNA and traditional genealogy work together in
the process for identifying the Y-DNA genetic signature for a
rabbinical lineage; the results of Dr. Paull's many pioneering
rabbinical heritage Y-DNA studies of historically significant rabbis,
rabbinical lineages, and tzaddiks; and how these studies can enable
people to rediscover their own family's lost Jewish heritage.

After reviewing the basic principles of how the Y-DNA genetic
signature of a lineage is identified, Dr. Paull will briefly discuss
the results of his Y-DNA studies of the Baal Shem Tov, the Shpoler
Zeida, the Katzenellenbogen and Polonsky rabbinical lineages, and the
Savran-Bendery and Twersky Chassidic dynasties, and explain how such
studies will enable many people to rediscover their family's heritage.

The program is free for paid members and $5 for non-members (applied
to membership fee when a visitor joins JGSMD) after their first
meeting. Refreshments will be available. Please check our web site at
www.jgsmd.org for late updates and for the time, location, and program
of future meetings.

Susan Steeble
JGSMD Public Relations
Baltimore, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Maryland October 29 program #general

Susan Steeble
 

Speaker: Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull
Title: "Discovering Your Lost Jewish Heritage through Y-DNA"
Date and Time: Sunday, October 29, 2017, 1:30 p.m.
Location: Pikesville Library's meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Rd,
Pikesville, MD

Please join us on Sunday, October 29, 2017, at 1:30 p.m., at the
Pikesville Librarys meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Road, Pikesville,
to hear Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull present "Discovering Your Lost Jewish
Heritage through Y-DNA."

For centuries, Jews have sought their yichus by connecting themselves
to rabbinical families, either through marriage, or by paper trail.
Thanks to recent advances in genetic genealogy and DNA technology,
this is now possible to do for many more individuals of Jewish descent
than ever before.

The goal of Dr. Paull's Y-DNA research studies is to identify the
Y-DNA genetic signatures of some of Jewry's most renowned tzaddiks and
historic rabbinical families. Anyone who matches one of these Y-DNA
genetic signatures shares a common paternal ancestor with them.
Identifying that common ancestor would enable one to link to a
pedigree and paper trail that may be many centuries old.

This presentation covers the following topics: why the study of the
world's historic rabbinical lineages and dynasties is so important to
Jewish genealogy; how Y-DNA and traditional genealogy work together in
the process for identifying the Y-DNA genetic signature for a
rabbinical lineage; the results of Dr. Paull's many pioneering
rabbinical heritage Y-DNA studies of historically significant rabbis,
rabbinical lineages, and tzaddiks; and how these studies can enable
people to rediscover their own family's lost Jewish heritage.

After reviewing the basic principles of how the Y-DNA genetic
signature of a lineage is identified, Dr. Paull will briefly discuss
the results of his Y-DNA studies of the Baal Shem Tov, the Shpoler
Zeida, the Katzenellenbogen and Polonsky rabbinical lineages, and the
Savran-Bendery and Twersky Chassidic dynasties, and explain how such
studies will enable many people to rediscover their family's heritage.

The program is free for paid members and $5 for non-members (applied
to membership fee when a visitor joins JGSMD) after their first
meeting. Refreshments will be available. Please check our web site at
www.jgsmd.org for late updates and for the time, location, and program
of future meetings.

Susan Steeble
JGSMD Public Relations
Baltimore, MD


Re: Explain a Centimorgan #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Barry Sieger asked us to "Explain a Centimorgan". It is not a centimorgan
that is important for defining who you are related to. It are the
segments that are important. DNA is pass down in segments of random
length alternating between the two chromosomes, one >from each parent,
within each of the chromosome pairs. Since only half of each parent DNA
is pass randomly to each of their children, some of their segments are
lost or split causing some lost of its length. What the companies do in
hoping to find one matches, they look at total amount of common DNA,
number of common segments, and/or the length of the longest common
segment. However for endogamy population, like Ashkenazic Jewish
community, their methods do not work well when the numbers of passing
between persons are 7 or more. You may want to read my article in Spring
2017 issue of Avotaynu.

Sidney Sachs


DNA Research #DNA Re: Explain a Centimorgan #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Barry Sieger asked us to "Explain a Centimorgan". It is not a centimorgan
that is important for defining who you are related to. It are the
segments that are important. DNA is pass down in segments of random
length alternating between the two chromosomes, one >from each parent,
within each of the chromosome pairs. Since only half of each parent DNA
is pass randomly to each of their children, some of their segments are
lost or split causing some lost of its length. What the companies do in
hoping to find one matches, they look at total amount of common DNA,
number of common segments, and/or the length of the longest common
segment. However for endogamy population, like Ashkenazic Jewish
community, their methods do not work well when the numbers of passing
between persons are 7 or more. You may want to read my article in Spring
2017 issue of Avotaynu.

Sidney Sachs


The family names Berdie and METZGER #germany

ronald Wallace
 

Has anyone in their research in Germany or Alsace Lorraine ever come across
the family name Berdie. I would be very interested to hear >from anyone who
may have come across this name. There is one family that came to the US
and lived in the Minnesota. Michigan Illinois and Wisconsin areas about
which I have comprehensive details, but I am interested in any other
branches of a family with this name especially any that may have come
from Metz in France or somewhere along the Rhine River in the Pfalz area.
They may have emigrated to the UK.

I am also interested in any METZGER family >from Landau in der Pfalz. This is
a very common German name and I am only interested in Jewish Metzgers from
Landau in the 19th century, especially between 1820 and 1870. The family
were not Butchers. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks

Ronny Wallace, Apollo Beach, Florida ronald@thewallaces.net


German SIG #Germany The family names Berdie and METZGER #germany

ronald Wallace
 

Has anyone in their research in Germany or Alsace Lorraine ever come across
the family name Berdie. I would be very interested to hear >from anyone who
may have come across this name. There is one family that came to the US
and lived in the Minnesota. Michigan Illinois and Wisconsin areas about
which I have comprehensive details, but I am interested in any other
branches of a family with this name especially any that may have come
from Metz in France or somewhere along the Rhine River in the Pfalz area.
They may have emigrated to the UK.

I am also interested in any METZGER family >from Landau in der Pfalz. This is
a very common German name and I am only interested in Jewish Metzgers from
Landau in the 19th century, especially between 1820 and 1870. The family
were not Butchers. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks

Ronny Wallace, Apollo Beach, Florida ronald@thewallaces.net


Re: Translation of a short German phrase from 19th cty. news article - Thank You #germany

ronald Wallace
 

Thank you to all who responded to my request for a translation of the old
German word allda and the sentence in which it was included. I got may
different responses, but the bottom line is that it confirmed my own
interpretation of the sentence. It has helped me enormously in solving a
very convoluted family relationship. Thank You all very much

Ronny Wallace, Apollo Beach, FL ronald@thewallaces.net


German SIG #Germany Re: Translation of a short German phrase from 19th cty. news article - Thank You #germany

ronald Wallace
 

Thank you to all who responded to my request for a translation of the old
German word allda and the sentence in which it was included. I got may
different responses, but the bottom line is that it confirmed my own
interpretation of the sentence. It has helped me enormously in solving a
very convoluted family relationship. Thank You all very much

Ronny Wallace, Apollo Beach, FL ronald@thewallaces.net


Obermayer German Jewish History Awards 2018 #germany

Yvonne Stern
 

Obermayer German Jewish History Awards announced the 2018 winners:

Karl and Hanna BRITZ (Kehl, Baden-Wuerttemberg)
The Joseph Gruppe (Berlin)
Volker MALL and Harald ROTH (Herrenberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg)
Horst MOOG (Hamm/Sieg, North Rhine-Westphalia)
Brunhilde STUERMER (Niederzissen, Rhineland-Palatinate)

A Distinguished Service Award will be presented to Margot FRIEDLAENDER

The award ceremony will take place at the Berlin Parliament on January 22, 2018.

Yvonne Stern, Rio de Janeiro - Brasil yvonne.stern17@gmail.com


BOOK CITE Historical German-English dictionary (Google Books) #germany

Andreas Schwab
 

Google Books has the 1745 Teutsch-englisches Lexicon (German-English dictionary)
by Christian Ludwig, Gleditsch.

The book is searchable and is uselful to find words >from older German
texts that are now obsolete or have changed meaning.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.j.schwab@icloud.com>


German SIG #Germany Obermayer German Jewish History Awards 2018 #germany

Yvonne Stern
 

Obermayer German Jewish History Awards announced the 2018 winners:

Karl and Hanna BRITZ (Kehl, Baden-Wuerttemberg)
The Joseph Gruppe (Berlin)
Volker MALL and Harald ROTH (Herrenberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg)
Horst MOOG (Hamm/Sieg, North Rhine-Westphalia)
Brunhilde STUERMER (Niederzissen, Rhineland-Palatinate)

A Distinguished Service Award will be presented to Margot FRIEDLAENDER

The award ceremony will take place at the Berlin Parliament on January 22, 2018.

Yvonne Stern, Rio de Janeiro - Brasil yvonne.stern17@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany BOOK CITE Historical German-English dictionary (Google Books) #germany

Andreas Schwab
 

Google Books has the 1745 Teutsch-englisches Lexicon (German-English dictionary)
by Christian Ludwig, Gleditsch.

The book is searchable and is uselful to find words >from older German
texts that are now obsolete or have changed meaning.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.j.schwab@icloud.com>


SILBERT, Louis and Bella of Harrisburg PA #lithuania

Joel Hayflick
 

I'm seeking descendants of my great uncle, Louis SILBERT and his
wife, Bella (nee ZANDEL). They came >from Zidikai and Viekshnai,
respectively, and lived in Harrisburg, PA >from ~1904-1948. Their
daughter Helen SILBERT married Charles COOPER. Helen died in
Norwalk, CN in 1980.

Any reminiscences of Louis, Bella, Helen, or Charles or
connection to living descendants would be most appreciated.

Best regards,
Joel Hayflick

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SILBERT, Louis and Bella of Harrisburg PA #lithuania

Joel Hayflick
 

I'm seeking descendants of my great uncle, Louis SILBERT and his
wife, Bella (nee ZANDEL). They came >from Zidikai and Viekshnai,
respectively, and lived in Harrisburg, PA >from ~1904-1948. Their
daughter Helen SILBERT married Charles COOPER. Helen died in
Norwalk, CN in 1980.

Any reminiscences of Louis, Bella, Helen, or Charles or
connection to living descendants would be most appreciated.

Best regards,
Joel Hayflick

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


VIEWMATE translation request Polish CHERSZARYC #poland

Jill Lewis
 

Hello, I've posted a vital record in Polish for a marriage >from which
I need information on the spouse's family. It is on ViewMate at the
following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM60951

The record is >from Warsaw in 1873.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Jill Lewis


JRI Poland #Poland VIEWMATE translation request Polish CHERSZARYC #poland

Jill Lewis
 

Hello, I've posted a vital record in Polish for a marriage >from which
I need information on the spouse's family. It is on ViewMate at the
following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM60951

The record is >from Warsaw in 1873.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Jill Lewis


Re: Finding Burial place of Jews who died shortly after being liberated #general

Jan Bousse <janbousse@...>
 

Hello Ben,

Hersh Ferszt came to live in Antwerp between 1916-1930. There is a file on
him and his family in the Register of Foreigners (Vreemdelingenregister)
#189097. Born 11/11/1926 in Warschau. Same file contains his father Jacob,
b. Warschau 1885, Gerzon Mendel b. Warschau 12/11/1921. The file usually
gives information about address, profession, etc. Probably not his date of
death. Still, it may be worth looking at it.

You may find useful information at the site of the Kazerne Dossin in
Mechelen (Malines). e-mail info@kazerne dossin.eu. They have the details of
the transports and may have more info on his death and also pictures.

I used to go to Antwerp archives to view the file, but I am not able to do
it now. I may be able to refer you to someone who I believe goes there
often. I can also try to view the file on internet.

Good luck. Write back to me if the information is useful.

Jan BOUSSE, Oostende, Belgium
janbousse@skynet.be

From: Benjamin First <ben.first44@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:23:50 +0100

My great uncle Hersh Leib Ferszt went to Aushwitz after being
transported >from Malines. According to family tradition he survived
but was overfed and died shortly after being liberated (perhaps in
Switzerland). Does anyone have any ideas how I may be able to find
out where he was buried?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding Burial place of Jews who died shortly after being liberated #general

Jan Bousse <janbousse@...>
 

Hello Ben,

Hersh Ferszt came to live in Antwerp between 1916-1930. There is a file on
him and his family in the Register of Foreigners (Vreemdelingenregister)
#189097. Born 11/11/1926 in Warschau. Same file contains his father Jacob,
b. Warschau 1885, Gerzon Mendel b. Warschau 12/11/1921. The file usually
gives information about address, profession, etc. Probably not his date of
death. Still, it may be worth looking at it.

You may find useful information at the site of the Kazerne Dossin in
Mechelen (Malines). e-mail info@kazerne dossin.eu. They have the details of
the transports and may have more info on his death and also pictures.

I used to go to Antwerp archives to view the file, but I am not able to do
it now. I may be able to refer you to someone who I believe goes there
often. I can also try to view the file on internet.

Good luck. Write back to me if the information is useful.

Jan BOUSSE, Oostende, Belgium
janbousse@skynet.be

From: Benjamin First <ben.first44@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:23:50 +0100

My great uncle Hersh Leib Ferszt went to Aushwitz after being
transported >from Malines. According to family tradition he survived
but was overfed and died shortly after being liberated (perhaps in
Switzerland). Does anyone have any ideas how I may be able to find
out where he was buried?

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