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Marcel Apsel
Don’t forget that Jewish children from the 19th century onwards had gentile names for civilian authorities and Jewish names for internal Jewish communal use and for boys especially a necessary name needed to be called for a Thora blessing. Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe who did not have specific gentile names start to use them when immigrating to the US. Examples who are not always the same: Mordechai can become Max, Gittel can become Gussie, Rivka can become Rebecca, Rose, Schmiel became Sam and the classical Sean Ferguson was originating from Russia with a family name something like Forgatson (don’t catch me if this name is a little bit different), but the ‘Shoyn fergessen’ – (I forgot) was a classical Jewish joke in the 1930s. On the other hand it often happens that people had two different first names and we see this in the files of JRI-Poland where once a mother is called Malka, a second time Channa and another time Channa Malka. And all 3 versions of those first names were used. So I won’t wonder if that person would use the name Annie for Channa and Regina for Malka for different purposes in the US.
Marcel Apsel Antwerpen, Belgium
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Marcel Apsel
A diminutive of Channa should be Cahnele.
Marcel Apsel Antwerpen, Belgium
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GenTeam Adds 500,000 New Records Online
#announcements
#austria-czech
#germany
#records
#slovakia
Jan Meisels Allen
GenTeam has placed 500,000 new records online. There are approximately 21.2 million records online in total. Go to: https://www.genteam.eu/ You need to register in order to access the records, but access to all data is free.
If you are unsure about the exact spelling of the name of a person or a location, you can also enter partial names in all of GenTeam’s databases. Enter only the part you are sure about. The autocomplete function is an easy solution to solving the problem of variations in orthography!
Summary of the information available on GenTeam:
Complete gazetteer of Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and South Tyrol with parish affiliations, archival districts and links to the archives Data from Vienna, Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Burgenland, Salzburg, Tyrol, Styria, Carinthia, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Germany.
Those that are of particular interest to those researching Jewish roots are:
Verlustliste – Casualty list WW1, where also the Jewish soldiers are included (but not named as Jewish –not certain about how many Jews are included)
Vienna – civil marriages – this is a source more for Jewish than for non-Jewish
Vienna – baptisms – about 150 entries of baptized Jews.
1. Military: Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919 Already 2.2 million records
The casualty lists enumerate the wounded and killed soldiers as well as the prisoners of war of all Crown Lands of the Habsburg monarchy. In their entirety, these lists will hold approximately 3 to 3.5 million names. They include officers and one-year volunteers, but also subordinated military personnel of all denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant soldiers.
Besides many lists that have already been entered fully, among them the casualties of Przemysl 1915 as well as supplemental lists, a great number of partial lists are also online. In addition, work is in progress for many more.
Several collaborators of this project prefer to remain unnamed. I would therefore like to sincerely thank all those who have contributed to this important database, all those who are already working on further lists, as well as Frank Raschka for managing this project. If you would like to participate in this project please contact: project manager Frank Raschka at verlustliste@... or kontakt@.... They will then send you a sample entry table and assign you a list number. 2. Vienna: Civil marriages and civil registry offices 1870-1939 Records that have been added: Civil marriages of the years 1934-1938 (volumes 55-59), civil marriages from the special civil registry office for August to December 1938, an index to the files of the non-Arian civil registry office from August to December 1938, as well as records from the civil registry office Leopoldstadt for the year 1939.
Records have been added for the parishes of 06 Gumpendorf, 08 Alservorstadt Pfarre, 08 Gebäranstalt (Alservorstadt Krankenhaus), 09 Votivkirche, 12 Meidling, 13 Maria Hietzing, 15 Reindorf, 18 Währing and 20 Sankt Brigitta. The numbers indicate the respective district of Vienna.
Records have been added for the parishes of 01 Sankt Stephan and 16 Altottakring. Already more than 2,1
Records have been added for the parishes of 02 St. Johann Nepomuk and 09 Votivkirche.
Records have been added for the estates of Asparn, Walterskirchen, Staatz and Pernegg, all of them in Lower Austria.
Styria, Tyrol, Moravia and Germany 1538-1938
Burgenland Dörfl, Rattersdorf, Steinberg, Unterrabnitz Lower Austria Ardagger Markt, Ardagger Stift, Eibesthal, Furth an der Triesting, Kollmitzberg, Neudorf bei Staatz, Ringelsdorf, Sallingberg, Sankt Valentin-Landschach, Sindelburg, Stockerau, Trattenbach, Würmla, Zistersdorf, Zwettl Stift Upper Austria Gallneukirchen Salzburg Werfenweng Styria Graz-Don Bosco, Graz-Graben, Graz-Münzgraben, Graz-St. Vinzenz, Übelbach Tyrol Navis, Sankt Jodok am Brenner, Tux Moravia Kutscherau/Kucerov, Stallek/Stalky Germany Gemen Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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David Barrett
Whilst the question implies that Chashele is a Lithuanian derivative there is a Dutch name I believe Hashele which means 'little egg' Could there be any connection? Regards David Barrett
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sharon yampell
My great great grandfather’s sister in law was named Chashe; looks like a diminutive of that…
Sharon F. Yampell Voorhees, NJ USA GenealogicalGenie@...
From: Sally Bruckheimer via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:42 PM To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] given name Chashele #latvia #names
My first thought was that Chashele was Haskiel, a man's name. But you want it to be a woman's name. Women often did not have a Hebrew name, but only Yiddish and / or secular names. One of my 2g grandmothers had 20 children in a tiny town,
and her name is different on each birth record; My ggrandmother, her daughter was mostly Rachel in records in the US - this was also one of her mother's names; on her marriage record in NYC, she was Regina. She had a sister born Regina, and this was another
of their mother's names. So go figure.
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Harvey,
You asked about the given name Chashele for someone born in 19th century Lithuania. According to Alexander Beider’s A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names, Khasele is a Yiddish variant of the name Khane (or Chane), apparently a diminutive form of the derivation Khase. Perhaps that is the origin of your relative's name.
Sincerely,
Jay
Jay Paul
San Francisco, CA 94117
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia, Lithuania; Traby, Belarus), LEIBSON (Lithuania), WOLF, SCHWARZ and STERN (presumed from Austro-Hungary).
-- Jay Paul, PhD San Francisco CA 94117 Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary).
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Gesher Galicia Presents "Shtetl Life: An American's Journey from Ukraine to the Rabbinate and now Germany"
#announcements
#holocaust
#rabbinic
#galicia
#germany
Dear Friends,
Gesher Galicia is proud to offer as part of our webinar series an interview with Rabbi Jeremy Borovitz conducted by Steven Turner and moderated by John Diener. Rabbi Borovitz is a young orthodox Rabbi now living in Berlin who grew up in New York City. Rabbi Borovitz developed a romantic attachment to the shtetl and decided after college to join the Peace Corps and live in a shtetl in Ukraine. He discusses how this led him to develop his inner Yiddishkeit in a way that ultimately led him down the path of becoming a Rabbi. During this time, he was very much involved in preserving Jewish heritage in his ancestral shtetl of Rohatyn. After his Peace Corps service Jeremy joined the Jewish Corps and he was stationed in Kyiv which eventually led him to be part of the protests on the streets during the Maidan revolution. From there, Jeremy studied in yeshivot in Israel and later at a seminary in Brooklyn, NY from which he was recently ordained. He now lives with his wife Rebecca who is also an orthodox Rabbi in Berlin as part of Hillel's Base Berlin. Jeremy and Rebecca were in the synagogue in Halle during a terrorist attack on Yom Kippur, 2019. Fortunately the terrorist was unable to break down the doors and all the worshipers were saved, but sadly 2 innocent people outside the synagogue were murdered. We trust that you will find Jeremy's story to be fascinating and well worth your time. This presentation is recorded and on our Members Portal for members to view at their convenience Preview a trailer of the interview with Rabbi Borovitz talking about what Gesher Galicia means to him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch? Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link below to view the complete interview. https://www.geshergalicia.org/ You must be a member of Gesher Galicia to be able to access the webinars and other resources in the Members Portal. Please click on the link below to join or renew your membership to be able to view this presentation. https://www.geshergalicia.org/ If you are unable to access the Members Portal, send your inquiries to: membership@.... Please email us at ssturner@... with any questions or comments. Sincerely, Dr. Steven S. Turner President, Gesher Galicia
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Re: Beth David Cemetery. Elmont, Queens NY
#photographs
#usa
rebasolomon
You are doing so many good deeds by searching for people at Beth David. I can barely find my own grandparents, even though I’ve been there many times. The groundskeepers have worked very hard cleaning it up, so it’s not as tangled as before. I wish you good luck. Reba Harris Solomon
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Sally Bruckheimer
My first thought was that Chashele was Haskiel, a man's name. But you want it to be a woman's name. Women often did not have a Hebrew name, but only Yiddish and / or secular names. One of my 2g grandmothers had 20 children in a tiny town, and her name is different on each birth record; My ggrandmother, her daughter was mostly Rachel in records in the US - this was also one of her mother's names; on her marriage record in NYC, she was Regina. She had a sister born Regina, and this was another of their mother's names. So go figure.
Are you sure Chashele isn't Rachele? Where did you find Chashele? Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "Can anyone tell me about the given name Chashele"
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rv Kaplan
Thanks - but don't think so. I'm wondering if it is a diminutive of Channa - which still wouldn't fit in with the family names - who knows? Harvey Kaplan
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 at 22:59, lydgateaction via groups.jewishgen.org <lydgateaction=btinternet.com@...> wrote: Is it not perhaps Chavala -- .חבלה Although the Hebrew meaning of the name Chavala is "life", in Yiddish it sometimes also meant "a little bird" I think.
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Latvia Database Broken Links - Workaround video now online
#JewishGenUpdates
#courland
#latvia
Marion Werle
Many of us have come to depend on the JewishGen Latvia database as a source for tranlated vital and 1897 census records. As you probably know,the Latvian State Historical Archives' Raduraksti website has moved, breaking the database links to the actual documents. There is no substitute for looking at the original record (even if you need to have it translated), so the broken links are a problem. We have a workaround that was presented at the IAJGS 2020 virtual conference's Latvia Resarch Division meeting, and I'm happy to announce that I've recorded it and it is now on the JewishGen Youtube channel. The presentation, "Finding Unindexed Latvian BMD and Census Records on FamilySearch," may be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwpu2OHFmS8&t=4s . The JewishGen introduction to the database will be updated shortly to point to the video. Hopefully this will be helpful to genealogists in locating digital copies of Latvian vital records, until the Latvia Research Division is able to correct the broken links.
Please forward any questions to LatviaRD@....
-- Marion Werle, Co-Director Latvia Research Division <canadagenes@...>
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There is a Hebrew name Chasha which exists among the ultra-Orthodox in
Jerusalem Chashele is a diminutive form of the name. Jules Feldman Kibbutz Yizreel
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Marcel Apsel
Harvey,
It might be a diminutive of Chasya
Marcel Apsel Antwerpen, Belgium
If you don’t remember me, I think we had together Friday night dinner in 2018 at the Warsaw Seminar together with Bill Gladstone.
Marcel
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m_tobiasiewicz@...
Hi Richard,
What name are you looking for? I am pretty good at finding elusive relatives. What street did they live on in 1930? -- Maryellen Tobiasiewiczfamily from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
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lydgateaction@...
Is it not perhaps Chavala -- .חבלה Although the Hebrew meaning of the name Chavala is "life", in Yiddish it sometimes also meant "a little bird" I think.
I'm no expert but I can see possible confusion in the lettering and transliteration /sin/ vs /shin/ and /bet vs /vet/
In Fiddler on the roof, Tevya sings a song ``Little bird, little Chavala'' (about his daughter Chavala).
"Little Bird, Little Chavala
I don't understand what's happening today
everything is all a blur
Gentle and kind and affectionate
The sweet little bird you were
Chavala, Chavala
Little Bird, Little Chavala.... Aubrey Blumsohn Sheffield, UK
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Re: Geni Family Trees
#general
Jeffrey, I agree that it is one of the things that is very difficult for users operating in a smaller field to understand, that a process that allows some errors to creep into their tree is also a process that ends up catching and correcting even more errors. I try to explain that it is like a machine that goes three steps forward and one step back, three steps forward and one step back . . . . Over time, it averages out to real progress.
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I was able to reconnect two branches of the family I’m working on with 1920 census data, where the pioneering brothers were still living in the same household in Philadelphia. One brother immigrated in 1903; the other followed ten years later. I have not able to find the earlier arrival in the 1910 census.
Another member of this forum was able to find brother #2’s immigration record for me. Census records only show the country of birth, however the immigration record also showed the town they came from, as a mangled but still recognizable transliteration.
David Mason Culver City, California
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Excellent lecture series from The Holocaust Exhibition and Learning Centre
#holocaust
Ellen Caplan
The Holocaust Exhibition and Learning Centre at The University of Huddersfield, UK is a hidden gem. I don’t remember where I heard of them - perhaps in this very discussion list. They have an excellent series of free, online lectures that I have been attending. The subjects are interesting, and the speakers have been first-rate. I couldn’t help but notice that attendance is low - in each of the Zoom lectures that I listened to, there were not more than 25 attendees, which is really a shame.
Recent topics included Creating the National Institute of Holocaust Documentation at the USHMM (United Stated Holocaust Memorial Museum); and Antisemitism and the Russian Revolution. Lectures yet to come include Jewish Refugees Find a Haven in the Dominican Republic; Sources of the Holocaust and from Concentration Camps: Documents and Personal Items from the Arolsen Archives; Shores of Light, Salento 1945,1947: Film Streaming and Director Talk. I highly recommend these lectures.
Ellen Caplan Ottawa, Canada Researching: EISENBERG, NAGLER, GINIGER, KLINGER: Mielnica, Ustye Biscupie, & Zalescie, Galicia; BREGER, LIEBMAN: Gomel & area, Belarus; PARADISGARTEN, SOLOMON: Tukums & Mitau, Latvia
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Markus ROSNER (1859-1934) From Tarnow
#galicia
Abuwasta Abuwasta
Dear Genners,
Just discovered on JRI-PL that my late grandfather Chiel Jakub ROSNER had a brother called Markus ROSNER who died in Tarnow in 1934 at the age of 75. I do not find anything else about him. His parents were Rubin ROSNER and Malka PERLBERG. If it rings a bell I would like to hear about it. Thanks Jacob Rosen Jerusalem
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Re: "Unehelichen"/Illegitimacy: applied to mother or child?
#germany
Eva Lawrence
You don't say whether the record actually gives the name of the child Regina, which is usually the case in Pfalz birth records. . As quoted, I agree that uneh;lich means unmarried, and I take it, also that Karolina's ,father's name was Isaak. Is Regina also given a surname, in the record, I wonder, which would be an indication of her father's idemtity?
-- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK.
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