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Re: Kra family in Paris #france #general

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Dear Joyce,
Apart from our typical genealogy researches, you can find a lot on "your" Simon Kra and his family.

Unknown from me five minutes ago, I entered "Simon Kra " to search French Google : never forget Google at a search's start !

I found he had been an important book editor in Paris before 1939.
https://www.google.com/search?q=simon+kra&rlz=1C1NHXL_frFR689FR689&oq=simon+kra&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l2j46j0l3j0i22i30l3.3169j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
As his children are named in these articles, we can be sure it's "your" Simon.

A full article had even  been written on him in French Wikipedia :
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/éditions_du_Sagittaire
and you can access some others.
He wrote 2 or 3 books.
You can use direct translation to English if your French isn't ... nobody is perfect.

On another point, I checked French white pages : more than 150 persons are named "Kra"...
I search some others clues.

Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle of France)






Move from Lodz to Falkenstein? #germany #lodz

Peter Roussak
 

I am curious if it is known if many Jews from Lodz moved to Germany, specifically Falkenstein, in the years after World War 1, and if so why.  I know of one relative of mine, named Ezra Russek, who moved there with his family.  There is another Russek who made the same move with her husband at around the same time, and I'm trying to establish if they were related, or if it was a common move and this is just a coincidence (it was a common name also, I recognize, but there are other facts that suggest a connection). 

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you
--
Peter Roussak
peter.roussak@...

Researching: 
RUSSEK, MITLER, JACOBOVITCH in Poland (Zloczew and Lodz); 
FREEDMAN, LEVY in Belarus, Lithuania (Grodno, Kovno); 
SHLOIMOVITZ, HERSCOVICI, POLSTER in Romania (Iasi)


Shtetl Malaszewiec, Poland #poland #belarus

thefamilykeeper@...
 

I am looking for information on the shtetl called as Malaszewiec, Poland. It is near the towns of Terespol and Brest Litovsk. The map coordinates are 52*02' N, 23*32' E. When I search for Terespol, Poland on Jewishgen town locator, it appears on the map but it is not listed as a searchable town. My grandfather was born in Malaszewiec in 1902.  Where can I find information on the town or records of births and marriages?

Thank you,
Lynda Schnier
West Palm Beach, FL


Translation Help with Signature #translation #russia

amitch1066@...
 

Hi All,

I'm having trouble fully deciphering a signature on the back of a post card.  I believe it is in Russian, and the handwriting makes it difficult for me to discern the lettering.  Any thoughts or translation is greatly appreciated.  Pic is attached.

Thanks in advance!
--
Amy Mitchell


Re: Kra family in Paris #france #general

itencorinne@...
 

Hi Joyce 

Did you look at the Archives de Paris online?
They have the birth, marriage and death records online.
http://archives.paris.fr/r/124/etat-civil-de-paris/
http://archives.paris.fr/r/284/etat-civil-a-partir-de-1860/

and also the census lists of 1926, 1931, 1936 are online.
http://archives.paris.fr/r/126/sources-genealogiques-complementaires/
http://archives.paris.fr/s/11/denombrements-de-population/?

Did you look at the Mémorial de la Shoah database about the deportation-lists from Paris-Drancy to Auschwitz?
http://ressources.memorialdelashoah.org/

Regards
Corinne Iten
Lucerne, Switzerland


ViewMate translation request - Polish - New York #translation

Liza Giller
 

 
Hi!
For several years I have been studying the history of the Frenkel family from Rovno.
From childhood I knew that my dad, Frenkel Tsal (Betsalel) Bentsionovich was born in 1910 and lived in the city of Rivne before the war.  At the beginning of the war, he was drafted into the army. His parents died during the war. Dad told me many times that my grandmother's name was Leia, grandfather was Bentsion, and that my brother and I were named after them.
In New York, at the Beth David Elmont Cemetery, Section E, Block 4, there is a memorial to the Jews killed in Rovno. It was built in 1954 http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/hm-rovno-bd.htm.
THIS MONUMENT WAS ERECTED BY THE FIRST ROVNER SICK AND BENEVOLENT SOCIETY WITH THE HELP ROVNER LANDSLEIT IN 1954.
The monument bears the name and surname of my grandmother Lea Frenkel.
Recently I found out my grandmother's maiden name - Saginur.
I think one of her relatives, brother or sister of my grandmother, lived in New York and brought her name to the monument.
I've posted aphoto of monument anf photo of my grandmother on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM91228
 
  1. I am asking for help in finding the Saginur family from Rovno, who lived in New York in 1954.
  2. Where documents  of THE FIRST ROVNER SICK AND BENEVOLENT SOCIETY  and ROVNER LANDSLEIT can  be stored?

 

 
 Liza Giller, Lod, Israel
 
 


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Phil Goldfarb
 

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Re: Name of BERNSTEIN Kohanim #names

Ozzy Bernstein
 

20 years late on this one... my surname is Bernstein and I'm a kohen. Most of the family originated in Verkhnia Hrabyvnytzia, Czechoslovakia but over time spread out around Europe.

All the best,

Ozzy Bernstein


Request for Suggestions on Researcher for Grodzisko Dolne, Poland #galicia

Sheldon Rabin
 

Recently I determined that five of my Rebensaft/Ribenzaft ancestors were among the 241 Jews murdered and buried in mass graves when the Grodzisko Dolne ghetto was cleared during July 1942-March 1943.  Other than their names, I have no other personal information, and so I would greatly appreciate recommendations on local researchers who might be able to develop at least some basic bio info, such as date of birth, etc.
I recall that the rules require all replies to this kind of inquiry be sent privately.  My email address is:sheldonrabin@...
Thank you for any referrals.
Sheldon Rabin
Seneca Falls, NY


Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"Thanks for raising the subject of US Marriage Authorisations". I don't think you are talking about US Marriage Authorizations - there is no such thing. In the US, each state has its own rules, and we have Marriages Licenses, not Authorizations.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

David Harrison
 

Might there have been a need for a conversion course before the Synagogue wedding?  I married my first wife in a Registry Office, some time later, she started a conversion course but needed to have a significant break on becoming pregnant until much later, then after meeting the Beth Din we then had our Chuppah.  Conversion Courses have always taken at least a year to allow the people to attend the full cycle of festival services with the cycle of cooking and cleaning etc  It was more usual to have the conversion before the wedding, which (according to my reading of such things, could 150 years ago require staying away from the potential partner in another kosher home for the year.

David Harrison
Birmingham, England


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Michael Sharp <michael.sharp@...>
Sent: 23 February 2021 17:01
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom
 
Even in the 1950s not all synagogues in the UK were licensed to perform marriages - hence the need to attend a registry office for a civil ceremony either before or after the chuppah
--
Michael Sharp
Manchester UK
michael.sharp@...


Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

Eva Lawrence
 

I think that the most likely reason for people to travel to London from Berlin simply in order to marry, was that they wanted a civil, rather than a religious ceremony, and that this was not available in Prussia. 
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

David Harrison
 

On this question of Authorization.  Not only do we have our Ketubah, but I have my Mother's and her Mother's (My grandmother).   I would also note that I have my Grandfather's Apprentice Indentures which specify that he should not work on The Sabbath,  but could on Sundays and he had to be allowed off on the specific Major Festivals, but that is another story.
David Harrison
Birmingham, England


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Richard Gilbert via groups.jewishgen.org <richvic=btinternet.com@...>
Sent: 22 February 2021 18:19
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: [JewishGen.org] UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom
 
Hi Aaron,
 
In my experience the names on the Marriage Authorisation are the names that appear on the Ketubah.
 
This form is issued by the Chief Rabbi’s office as a result of a meeting between the bride and groom and the Chief Rabbi’s registrar.  In this instance Aydim - Witness were produced to attest to the status of both parties to the marriage that they are Halachically Jewish.  This process of attending the Chief Rabbi’s office is still being undertaken today for those marriages performed under the auspices of the United Synagogue.
 
This form is then sent to the Rabbi performing the marriage.  Certainly in the late 19th early 20th century when the majority of Jews in the country were not members of shuls, this may have been the only record that  the Rabbi had of the appropriate details prior to him completing the Ketubah.  That said, that does not mean he may not have spotted an error and changed the details in the Ketubah prior to the wedding ceremony.
 
The special remark is telling us that this couple had a civil ceremony first at a Register Office (RO) on January 7th, 1902 and were having a chupah on February 16, 1902 at what was the East London (EL) Synagogue at 52 Rectory Square, Stepney Green, London, E1.
 
This link will take you to a history of the East London Synagogue - 
 
 
I was trying to identify a United Synagogue shul that existed in London  in 1902 beginning with the initials RO.  It was the special remark that told me that RO meant register office.  This would tell the officiating Rabbi, who would double up as the civil registrar for marriages at his shul, that this couple at least did not need to sign the marriage register after the chupah.
 
The listing of the the names of the bridegroom’s brothers is all to do with yibbum.  Yibbum obligates the brothers of a deceased husband who dies without children to marry the surviving sister-in-law so as to have a child with her.  Such a child would be treated as a child of the deceased brother.  Many brothers-in-law either were already married or did not wish to fulfil this obligation.  In such situations the widow would release her brother-in-law through the ceremony of chalitza.  What the significance of the brother being present is, I do not know.  It may be an issue of Halacha (Jewish law) and someone better versed than me can answer that.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Richard Gilbert
Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire
 
 
 
 


Re: LDS original #general

Hannah Goldner
 

Thanks, but it's not Poland, it's Hungary. Can I just substitute the name of the country? 


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 12:12 PM Stanley Diamond <smsdiamond@...> wrote:
If you are referring to a record in the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland database,
also displayed on JewishGen, write to the Town Leader for the project.

The simplest way is to write to questions@... or [townname]@jri-poland.org

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
 
8a. 
LDS original #general
From: hsg1865@...
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:12:57 EST

On JewishGen I found my grandmother's birth listing with the LDS # and volume number.  

Is there a way for me to see the original?
--
Hannah Goldner
Brooklyn, NY

--
Hannah Goldner
Brooklyn, NY


Re: Volochysk/Podvolochisk #records

Alexander Sharon
 

Dan,

There are 153 entries for Podvolochysk, Ukraine in JGFF database, posted by 99 researchers

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Re: Volochysk/Podvolochisk #records

Alexander Sharon
 

Hi,
Please note that JGFF database includes 171 entries for Volochysk, Ukraine, posted by 99 researchers.

JewishGen Family Finder Results

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Re: Envelope in Polish/Yiddish #translation

m_tobiasiewicz@...
 

First line, not able to decifer.
Warsawa
ul Muranowska -- Muranowska Street
#34
(possibly Herr) Yzek Katzw

I did a google search on the address. Check this out:
Battle of Muranów Square - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Battle_of_Muranów_Square
The Battle of Muranów Square was a battle between the Jewish Military Union (ŻZW) and Third Reich troops which took place during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising on April 19–22, 1943. ... The headquarters of ŻZW were located at 7 Muranowska Street. The units of the Union were divided into three groups - two of them ...
‎History · ‎Origins · ‎The battle · ‎Account by Władysław...
 
File:Warsaw Uprising - Getto Bunker at Muranowska Street.jpg ...commons.wikimedia.org › wiki › File:Warsaw_Uprisin...
Sep 8, 2020 — File:Warsaw Uprising - Getto Bunker at Muranowska Street.jpg. Language; Watch · Edit. File; File history; File usage ...
 
File:Commemorative plaque 1 Muranowska Street in Warsaw ...commons.wikimedia.org › wiki › File:Commemorative...
English: Plaque commemorating fights at Muranowski Square during Warsaw Ghetto Uprising at 1 Muranowska Street. Date, 7 June 2012. Source, Own work.
 
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising | Virtual Shtetlsztetl.org.pl › glossary › warsaw-ghetto-uprising
Their headquarters was located at 7 Muranowska Street. The ŻZW members also produced and smuggled weapons through the earlier built tunnel [1.2]. * * *.


--
Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine


Re: Kudrynce, Galicia #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Ervin,

It appears that there is good information on Kudrynce castle but little on the shtetl itself, beside the statistical data.
 I've been trying to follow historical data of the past landowners of the the Kudrynce castle (Herburts, Humnieckis and Bartfelds) but there is not too much on line.
Stats:

Second part of 19th century: 2,3i5 residents in Kudrynce parish, 123 residents in Kudrynce folwark (farming)
BTW, Kudrynce are divided to shtetl and Kudrynce Gorne (Upper) and Kudrynce Dolne (Lower) 
1900, Austro-Hungarian census - 2,480 total number of residents, 598 (!) Jews
1921, Poland first census - 1,693 residents, including 52 Jews

BTW, I've noticed new entries for Kudryntsy in JGFF database made just this month, it includes entry for the researched by you family name but it spelled a bit differently: Wexelblatt.
JGFF data for Kudryntsy includes 19 entries by 13 researchers.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


porcelan surname #names

אבא ואמא
 

who can use ,porcelan as a family name,and what does it say?
y.z.kinstlich


Re: LDS original #general

Stanley Diamond
 

If you are referring to a record in the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland database,
also displayed on JewishGen, write to the Town Leader for the project.

The simplest way is to write to questions@... or [townname]@jri-poland.org

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
 
8a. 
LDS original #general
From: hsg1865@...
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:12:57 EST

On JewishGen I found my grandmother's birth listing with the LDS # and volume number.  

Is there a way for me to see the original?
--
Hannah Goldner
Brooklyn, NY

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