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BASCH Family from Gratez - Big Thanks to everyone who helped me find my ancestor #germany

Bathsheba Froyse
 

MODERATOR NOTES: 1. Mr. Frais can efficiently help others as GerSig has
helped him by registering BASCH >from Graetz in the JewishGen Family Finder
(JGFF). This is free of charge at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/>

Another way to recognize the generous help he has received would be to
make a financial contribution to JewishGen and / or GerSig.
He could enter a "Thank You" plaque on the JewishGen Wall of Honor for a
donation of U.S. $10 or more at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors.ihtml> MOD1

I only recently joined the list and already I have received information that almost certainly relates to the BASCH family ancestor I was looking for.

Thank you so much to everyone who responded and posted information. I never
expected such a quick and pinpoint response. Since the names, dates and
occupation all correspond with other records I possess, I have every reason
for assuming that the Itzig BASCH (1801 - c1850's) listed in an 1834 census
of Graetz in Prussia was my ancestor.

On the chance that there are any other descendants of this family out there,
or anyone has information on the Jewish community of Graetz in the early
1800's, I would be very interested to hear more. Regards

Shimon Frais


German SIG #Germany BASCH Family from Gratez - Big Thanks to everyone who helped me find my ancestor #germany

Bathsheba Froyse
 

MODERATOR NOTES: 1. Mr. Frais can efficiently help others as GerSig has
helped him by registering BASCH >from Graetz in the JewishGen Family Finder
(JGFF). This is free of charge at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/>

Another way to recognize the generous help he has received would be to
make a financial contribution to JewishGen and / or GerSig.
He could enter a "Thank You" plaque on the JewishGen Wall of Honor for a
donation of U.S. $10 or more at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors.ihtml> MOD1

I only recently joined the list and already I have received information that almost certainly relates to the BASCH family ancestor I was looking for.

Thank you so much to everyone who responded and posted information. I never
expected such a quick and pinpoint response. Since the names, dates and
occupation all correspond with other records I possess, I have every reason
for assuming that the Itzig BASCH (1801 - c1850's) listed in an 1834 census
of Graetz in Prussia was my ancestor.

On the chance that there are any other descendants of this family out there,
or anyone has information on the Jewish community of Graetz in the early
1800's, I would be very interested to hear more. Regards

Shimon Frais


Re: HOFFMAN Family Information/LEWIN family information/ Stettin #germany

Algaze@...
 

The Family History Library has copies of records >from the Jewish Community
of Stettin, Preussen, Pommern, Germany (now Szczecin, Poland) >from 1841 - 1939. These include deaths, births, and marriages.

They are in the microfilms numbered 1,184,457 and 1,184,458 (items # 1 & 2).
I hope that helps.

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California

Seeking anyone who has information on Dagobert and Martha HOFFMAN who lived
in Stettin (was Germany then/now Poland). Ann Lewin Lewinr@earthlink.net


German SIG #Germany Re: HOFFMAN Family Information/LEWIN family information/ Stettin #germany

Algaze@...
 

The Family History Library has copies of records >from the Jewish Community
of Stettin, Preussen, Pommern, Germany (now Szczecin, Poland) >from 1841 - 1939. These include deaths, births, and marriages.

They are in the microfilms numbered 1,184,457 and 1,184,458 (items # 1 & 2).
I hope that helps.

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California

Seeking anyone who has information on Dagobert and Martha HOFFMAN who lived
in Stettin (was Germany then/now Poland). Ann Lewin Lewinr@earthlink.net


RESEARCH NOTE - Re: Stettin archives #germany

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I have had a good experience getting lots of information >from the Stettin
archives about my family. But this is how I did it. I had heard >from other
researchers that writing to the Polish archives was often fruitless. So I
hired a Polish researcher (a very good one, it turns out!!) and she went to
the archives in Stettin and read through all the Standesamt documents for my
ancestral town. She transcribed and translated all of the mentions of my
family. In this way, I found out about every birth, marriage and death in
my family (for the years the books were extant) between 1874-1900. It
included my great-grandparents marriage record, with the names of their
parents and the towns where they lived and died, and through the birth
records I found out all 12 names of my great-grandmother's brothers & sisters.

It cost me about $100. Under the best of circumstances, the archive
personnel would never have turned up this much for me. Regards and good luck

Anita Springer Boston, Mass.

MOD NOTE: Please include your city and state or nation of residence in
your signature. This time I added it for you.


German SIG #Germany RESEARCH NOTE - Re: Stettin archives #germany

Anita Springer <aspringer@...>
 

I have had a good experience getting lots of information >from the Stettin
archives about my family. But this is how I did it. I had heard >from other
researchers that writing to the Polish archives was often fruitless. So I
hired a Polish researcher (a very good one, it turns out!!) and she went to
the archives in Stettin and read through all the Standesamt documents for my
ancestral town. She transcribed and translated all of the mentions of my
family. In this way, I found out about every birth, marriage and death in
my family (for the years the books were extant) between 1874-1900. It
included my great-grandparents marriage record, with the names of their
parents and the towns where they lived and died, and through the birth
records I found out all 12 names of my great-grandmother's brothers & sisters.

It cost me about $100. Under the best of circumstances, the archive
personnel would never have turned up this much for me. Regards and good luck

Anita Springer Boston, Mass.

MOD NOTE: Please include your city and state or nation of residence in
your signature. This time I added it for you.


Re: Allen and Lawrence EBSTEIN #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Zeev Raphael, Haifa, Israel eevr@aerodyne.technion.ac.il wrote:
I am trying to find the whereabouts or fate of the brothers Allen and
Lawrence EBSTEIN or their descendants.
Allen and Lawrence are the sons of Peter Ebstein, b. 1916 in Breslau,
Germany, d. 1998 in NYC. Peter, in turn, was the son of Vally RAPHAEL (my
late father's cousin), b.1886 near Posen, Germany, d. Staten Island NY, and
Paul EBSTEIN I would be grateful for any hint. Please write to me. Thanks.

Dear Zeev,
here is hint: there are 8 EBSTEIN entries for deporties >from Breslau to
Theresienstadt: Berthold (birth year 1859), Elsa (1881), Hedwig (1857),
Hedwig (1866), Henriette Jettel (1876), Marie (1867), Marta (1873) and
Martin (1874). And there are two for RAPHAEL: Hedwig (1889) and Wilhelm
(1886). Let me know whether you think you may be related to them,

kind regards Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


German SIG #Germany Re: Allen and Lawrence EBSTEIN #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Zeev Raphael, Haifa, Israel eevr@aerodyne.technion.ac.il wrote:
I am trying to find the whereabouts or fate of the brothers Allen and
Lawrence EBSTEIN or their descendants.
Allen and Lawrence are the sons of Peter Ebstein, b. 1916 in Breslau,
Germany, d. 1998 in NYC. Peter, in turn, was the son of Vally RAPHAEL (my
late father's cousin), b.1886 near Posen, Germany, d. Staten Island NY, and
Paul EBSTEIN I would be grateful for any hint. Please write to me. Thanks.

Dear Zeev,
here is hint: there are 8 EBSTEIN entries for deporties >from Breslau to
Theresienstadt: Berthold (birth year 1859), Elsa (1881), Hedwig (1857),
Hedwig (1866), Henriette Jettel (1876), Marie (1867), Marta (1873) and
Martin (1874). And there are two for RAPHAEL: Hedwig (1889) and Wilhelm
(1886). Let me know whether you think you may be related to them,

kind regards Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


Re: Sannel / Nethanel / Samuel #germany

Eliagil Roos <eliagil.roos@...>
 

Sannel = Sandel = Nasanel = Nathaniel = Samuel !

< SANDEL in records... paired with NASANIEL (Nathaniel) >

yes indeed,
In documents >from 18 th century Alsace I found several times the first name
SANNEL = NATHANIEL in Hebrew, pronounced Nesanel.

Sometimes something else happens : SANNEL is read as SAMEL (nn -> m)
and then thought to mean Samuel, and thus we find several false SAMUELs !
particularly in Westhouse / Westhausen, Lower Rhine.

shalom Eliane Roos Schuhl, Paris, France


German SIG #Germany RE: Sannel / Nethanel / Samuel #germany

Eliagil Roos <eliagil.roos@...>
 

Sannel = Sandel = Nasanel = Nathaniel = Samuel !

< SANDEL in records... paired with NASANIEL (Nathaniel) >

yes indeed,
In documents >from 18 th century Alsace I found several times the first name
SANNEL = NATHANIEL in Hebrew, pronounced Nesanel.

Sometimes something else happens : SANNEL is read as SAMEL (nn -> m)
and then thought to mean Samuel, and thus we find several false SAMUELs !
particularly in Westhouse / Westhausen, Lower Rhine.

shalom Eliane Roos Schuhl, Paris, France


WOOLF/WRIGHTMAN/JOSEPHS #poland #ciechanow

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Ciechanow-born Hyman JOSEPHS and Fanny born
LAURIE who lived in London.

The children were:

1) Betty JOSEPHS (b.1918) married Monty WOOLF
(i) Child WOOLF

2) Sylvia JOSEPHS (b.1920) married Alec WRIGHTMAN
(i) John WRIGHTMAN
(ii)Unknown WRIGHTMAN (male)

3) Nathan (Nat) JOSEPHS (b.1922) married Millie UNKNOWN
(i) Roy JOSEPHS
(ii)David JOSEPHS

4) Golda JOSEPHS (b.1924) married Abraham (Abe) WRIGHTMAN
(i) Unknown WRIGHTMAN (male)

Please contact me privately if you have any information on this family.

Alice JOSEPHS
UK
See my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


#Ciechanow #Poland WOOLF/WRIGHTMAN/JOSEPHS #ciechanow #poland

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Ciechanow-born Hyman JOSEPHS and Fanny born
LAURIE who lived in London.

The children were:

1) Betty JOSEPHS (b.1918) married Monty WOOLF
(i) Child WOOLF

2) Sylvia JOSEPHS (b.1920) married Alec WRIGHTMAN
(i) John WRIGHTMAN
(ii)Unknown WRIGHTMAN (male)

3) Nathan (Nat) JOSEPHS (b.1922) married Millie UNKNOWN
(i) Roy JOSEPHS
(ii)David JOSEPHS

4) Golda JOSEPHS (b.1924) married Abraham (Abe) WRIGHTMAN
(i) Unknown WRIGHTMAN (male)

Please contact me privately if you have any information on this family.

Alice JOSEPHS
UK
See my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


JOSEPHS/SUGAR Toronto, Canada #unitedkingdom

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for the family of Ciechanow-born David JOSEPHS and Hetty born
HERMAN.

Their children were:

1) Leon JOSEPHS (b 1926) m Unknown
(i) Child JOSEPHS
(ii)Child JOSEPHS

2) Phyllis (b 1929) m David SUGAR
(i) Child JOSEPHS
(ii)Child JOSEPHS

If anyone has any information on this family, please contact me privately.

Alice JOSEPHS
UK
See my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JOSEPHS/SUGAR Toronto, Canada #unitedkingdom

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for the family of Ciechanow-born David JOSEPHS and Hetty born
HERMAN.

Their children were:

1) Leon JOSEPHS (b 1926) m Unknown
(i) Child JOSEPHS
(ii)Child JOSEPHS

2) Phyllis (b 1929) m David SUGAR
(i) Child JOSEPHS
(ii)Child JOSEPHS

If anyone has any information on this family, please contact me privately.

Alice JOSEPHS
UK
See my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


Beer! #galicia

Richard Cooper <ric@...>
 

It warms my heart to see such a healthy interest in the nectar of the gods
among Galicia Genners! And there was I thinking I was the only Jewish
Genealogist in the world who was also a CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale)
member! It must be in my blood, as I have ancestors >from both Tarnow and
Tarnopol, and my g'g'grandfather >from Warszawa was a distiller. I have drunk
beer in many countries around the world and Polish piwo is the only one that
has the same character as English Real Ale!
Seriously though, I found a link on www.camra.org.uk to Bractwo Piwne,
the Polish equivalent, on www.brapiw.ikki.com.pl/
Someone who can read Polish might get some sense out of it.
Happy New Year!
Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
ADLER, LEWINSTEIN & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopil
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET, PITERZEIL & BLUMENKAHL >from Dabrowa Tarnowska


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Beer! #galicia

Richard Cooper <ric@...>
 

It warms my heart to see such a healthy interest in the nectar of the gods
among Galicia Genners! And there was I thinking I was the only Jewish
Genealogist in the world who was also a CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale)
member! It must be in my blood, as I have ancestors >from both Tarnow and
Tarnopol, and my g'g'grandfather >from Warszawa was a distiller. I have drunk
beer in many countries around the world and Polish piwo is the only one that
has the same character as English Real Ale!
Seriously though, I found a link on www.camra.org.uk to Bractwo Piwne,
the Polish equivalent, on www.brapiw.ikki.com.pl/
Someone who can read Polish might get some sense out of it.
Happy New Year!
Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
ADLER, LEWINSTEIN & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopil
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET, PITERZEIL & BLUMENKAHL >from Dabrowa Tarnowska


The Petroleum Industry #galicia

Leonard Markowitz <priluki@...>
 

The thread concerning the brewing industry in Galicia is very
interesting. This motivates me to inquire about Jews engaged
in the petroleum industry (oil wells and drilling equipment) in
20th century Galicia.

My extended ancestral family owned oil wells in Lipinki, which
is in the area of Gorlice.

Len Markowitz
Philadelphia
priluki@voicenet.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia The Petroleum Industry #galicia

Leonard Markowitz <priluki@...>
 

The thread concerning the brewing industry in Galicia is very
interesting. This motivates me to inquire about Jews engaged
in the petroleum industry (oil wells and drilling equipment) in
20th century Galicia.

My extended ancestral family owned oil wells in Lipinki, which
is in the area of Gorlice.

Len Markowitz
Philadelphia
priluki@voicenet.com


beer and liquor production #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

The production of beer and liquor was engaged in by many Jews in Galicia.
All aspects of the production and consumption were involved: barrel
making, inns/taverns where Poles and Ukrainians came to drink, and grain
production. Some time ago, we had a long discussion about the practice of
Jews leasing land >from the nobility (who owned much of the land) to "farm"
it. This sometimes involved lumber and cattle or horses but most often
involved grain production. In addition to using the grain for bread and
cereals, grain went into the production of beer and liquor...particularly
vodka.

Jews tended to own small stills and production facilities that
weren't "name" brands. They were not generally involved in production of
large scale breweries because such outfits required expensive licenses,
facilities and taxes and most Jews did not have access to either the
capital or the officials who would approve such operations. Rather, Jews
produced amounts for local sale. The Polish directories are a good source
for seeing the extent to which Jews were involved in the production of
alcohol products at the local level, the names of official breweries and
the names of important business people.

Another point is that Galician Jews were frequently criticized by the
Catholic Church and the government of promoting drunkeness among the Poles
and Ukrainians because of their perceived substantial role in all aspects
of the alcohol trade. Laws prohibiting Jews >from engaging in the
production side were promulgated over the years, causing many Jews to lose
their livelihood for a time, though it seems that the laws were never
really enforced or effective because Galician Jews continued to be heavily
involved in the various occupations associated with alcohol.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia beer and liquor production #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

The production of beer and liquor was engaged in by many Jews in Galicia.
All aspects of the production and consumption were involved: barrel
making, inns/taverns where Poles and Ukrainians came to drink, and grain
production. Some time ago, we had a long discussion about the practice of
Jews leasing land >from the nobility (who owned much of the land) to "farm"
it. This sometimes involved lumber and cattle or horses but most often
involved grain production. In addition to using the grain for bread and
cereals, grain went into the production of beer and liquor...particularly
vodka.

Jews tended to own small stills and production facilities that
weren't "name" brands. They were not generally involved in production of
large scale breweries because such outfits required expensive licenses,
facilities and taxes and most Jews did not have access to either the
capital or the officials who would approve such operations. Rather, Jews
produced amounts for local sale. The Polish directories are a good source
for seeing the extent to which Jews were involved in the production of
alcohol products at the local level, the names of official breweries and
the names of important business people.

Another point is that Galician Jews were frequently criticized by the
Catholic Church and the government of promoting drunkeness among the Poles
and Ukrainians because of their perceived substantial role in all aspects
of the alcohol trade. Laws prohibiting Jews >from engaging in the
production side were promulgated over the years, causing many Jews to lose
their livelihood for a time, though it seems that the laws were never
really enforced or effective because Galician Jews continued to be heavily
involved in the various occupations associated with alcohol.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD