Connie Fisher Newhan wrote:

Dear Group--
I've just come across an obituary >from a 1903 Pittsburgh, PA
Jewish Publication for my husbands ggf Isaac Friedsam. It
states that he came >from "Bodendor, Rhine, Prussia in 1853."
I've looked at Shtelt Seeker and have too many choices, towns
in Austria, Czech Republic and Germany. While I believe the
town to be in present day Germany, I really have no idea what
to assume. Can any one narrow the list down for me and point
me toward the correct area?

Connie,

Bodendorf (Bad Bodendorf) is already identified by you as being
located in Rheinl[and], Germany. Town location is also verified
by WOWW gazeteer at 5033 0713.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

I would like to make contact with my first cousin, Bradley
Joseph, reagrding our family history, but e-mails to his
e-mail address on the JGFF do not get responded to.

If anyone has an address that they know to be valid, I would
appreciate it being sent to me.

Many thanks,

Jonny Joseph (Los Angeles, CA, USA, formerly Johannesburg,
South Africa)
JOSEPH (Leeds, England); was KUCZYNSKI (Kolo, Poland/Russia);
GREENBERG (Leeds, England); ROZMAN (Tel Aviv, Palestine);
KATZ (Bialystok, Poland/Russia)

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My grandfather's branch of the Workmen's Circle no longer exits
in Paterson, New Jersey to my knowledge. Does anyone know if
joiners to this organization completed any type of paperwork,
especially when they joined here in the United States? If so,
I would love to be able to find these records regarding my
grandfather. My goal is to find out exactly where, shtetl-wise,
in Bialystok my family lived.
Any advice welcomed.
Thanks
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com

Connie Fisher Newhan wrote:

Dear Group--
I've just come across an obituary >from a 1903 Pittsburgh, PA
Jewish Publication for my husbands ggf Isaac Friedsam. It
states that he came >from "Bodendor, Rhine, Prussia in 1853."
I've looked at Shtelt Seeker and have too many choices, towns
in Austria, Czech Republic and Germany. While I believe the
town to be in present day Germany, I really have no idea what
to assume. Can any one narrow the list down for me and point
me toward the correct area?

Connie,

Bodendorf (Bad Bodendorf) is already identified by you as being
located in Rheinl[and], Germany. Town location is also verified
by WOWW gazeteer at 5033 0713.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

I would like to make contact with my first cousin, Bradley
Joseph, reagrding our family history, but e-mails to his
e-mail address on the JGFF do not get responded to.

If anyone has an address that they know to be valid, I would
appreciate it being sent to me.

Many thanks,

Jonny Joseph (Los Angeles, CA, USA, formerly Johannesburg,
South Africa)
JOSEPH (Leeds, England); was KUCZYNSKI (Kolo, Poland/Russia);
GREENBERG (Leeds, England); ROZMAN (Tel Aviv, Palestine);
KATZ (Bialystok, Poland/Russia)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

My grandfather's branch of the Workmen's Circle no longer exits
in Paterson, New Jersey to my knowledge. Does anyone know if
joiners to this organization completed any type of paperwork,
especially when they joined here in the United States? If so,
I would love to be able to find these records regarding my
grandfather. My goal is to find out exactly where, shtetl-wise,
in Bialystok my family lived.
Any advice welcomed.
Thanks
Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com

"SHTETL - CONNECTIONS" AND THE CRHCC

PRESENT

REMEMBERING AND RECORDING THE LITHUANIAN HOLOCAUST

A talk and book launch by Dr Saul Issroff who is visiting South Africa from
London for a Conference in Cape Town and is co-editor of the recently
published book -

"THE HOLOCAUST IN LITHUANIA 1941-1945: A BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE"

to be held in the Clive M Beck Auditorium at the CRHCC, Great Park
Synagogue, Glenhove Road Houghton, Johannesburg

on Monday 20th January 2003

at 7:15pm for 7:45pm

To Book call Hazel Cohen (011)728-8088 or Illana Balabanoff (011)728-8152 or
e-Mail hazelc@greatpark.co.za

The ongoing Lithuanian Names Project that this publication is based on has
collected lists of names, >from the main cities of Vilna and Kovno, and from
many other mass murder areas. These record many thousands of Lithuanian men, women and children who were murdered during the Nazi Occupation of
Lithuania, in or near the Shtetlach, in the Ghettos or work camps, in
concentration camps and places outside Lithuania. The book provides
background material to the Lithuanian Holocaust. Dr Stephen D. Smith, of
Beth Shalom Holocaust Center, Nottingham writes a moving introduction on the importance of names in perpetuating Holocaust memory.

Eli Goldstein
Johannesburg
eligold@virtual-ventures.co.za

One of my grandmother's siblings was a sister NECHAMA BELOVITSKY from
Popishok, near Vilna, who married JOE (YOSHCHIK) GERMANSKY and lived in
Windsor Ontario. They both died a long time ago, probably in Windsor.
Their three children, HARRY, BETTY and LILLIAN have also died. There
are supposed to be further generations but my mother (now my oldest
source) doesn't know anything about them, and I and another cousin are
keen to try to fill out that branch.

Does anyone recognise these names?

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

also searching

COHEN, KLAIMON, GROSSMAN, SPIVAK, and PORTIGAL Talna/Kiev (Ukraine);
BELOVITSKY(I), BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/
Montreal; YAFFE: Wiliez, nr Disna, Vilna Gubernia/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/
North Dakota; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area

"SHTETL - CONNECTIONS" AND THE CRHCC

PRESENT

REMEMBERING AND RECORDING THE LITHUANIAN HOLOCAUST

A talk and book launch by Dr Saul Issroff who is visiting South Africa from
London for a Conference in Cape Town and is co-editor of the recently
published book -

"THE HOLOCAUST IN LITHUANIA 1941-1945: A BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE"

to be held in the Clive M Beck Auditorium at the CRHCC, Great Park
Synagogue, Glenhove Road Houghton, Johannesburg

on Monday 20th January 2003

at 7:15pm for 7:45pm

To Book call Hazel Cohen (011)728-8088 or Illana Balabanoff (011)728-8152 or
e-Mail hazelc@greatpark.co.za

The ongoing Lithuanian Names Project that this publication is based on has
collected lists of names, >from the main cities of Vilna and Kovno, and from
many other mass murder areas. These record many thousands of Lithuanian men, women and children who were murdered during the Nazi Occupation of
Lithuania, in or near the Shtetlach, in the Ghettos or work camps, in
concentration camps and places outside Lithuania. The book provides
background material to the Lithuanian Holocaust. Dr Stephen D. Smith, of
Beth Shalom Holocaust Center, Nottingham writes a moving introduction on the importance of names in perpetuating Holocaust memory.

Eli Goldstein
Johannesburg
eligold@virtual-ventures.co.za

One of my grandmother's siblings was a sister NECHAMA BELOVITSKY from
Popishok, near Vilna, who married JOE (YOSHCHIK) GERMANSKY and lived in
Windsor Ontario. They both died a long time ago, probably in Windsor.
Their three children, HARRY, BETTY and LILLIAN have also died. There
are supposed to be further generations but my mother (now my oldest
source) doesn't know anything about them, and I and another cousin are
keen to try to fill out that branch.

Does anyone recognise these names?

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, Canada)

also searching

COHEN, KLAIMON, GROSSMAN, SPIVAK, and PORTIGAL Talna/Kiev (Ukraine);
BELOVITSKY(I), BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/
Montreal; YAFFE: Wiliez, nr Disna, Vilna Gubernia/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/
North Dakota; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area

Hello GerSig, I just joined the group. I am brand new at genealogy
research. I life in rural Baltimore County, Maryland, USA.
My only language is English. I have identified the names and birth and
death dates of both of my parents and I know the names of all of my
grandparents. My primary research goal is to go back as far as possible
into my ancestry.

The data that I presently have is:
My father – Sylvan Kann FLEISHMAN, B 02/04/1897 in Baltimore, D.09/19/1991
in Baltimore.

His parents were Samuel FLEISHMAN and Fanny KANN.
My mother – Sophie SCHIMMEL, b 09/27/1900 in Baltimore, d 1983 in
Baltimore.
Her parents were David SCHIMMEL and Minnie APPEL, both >from Austria
I also have data on siblings of my parents and all later generations.
Any advice as to what to do next will be greatly appreciated.

Lee S. Fleishman ruthnlee@juno.com Monkton, Maryland

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig.
Please read the Welcome letter (email) that you received when you
subscribed to GerSig. It contains tips on how to begin your research
and links to websites that can help you.

The most important for a beginner is the JewishGen FAQ which you will
find at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

Hello GerSig, I just joined the group. I am brand new at genealogy
research. I life in rural Baltimore County, Maryland, USA.
My only language is English. I have identified the names and birth and
death dates of both of my parents and I know the names of all of my
grandparents. My primary research goal is to go back as far as possible
into my ancestry.

The data that I presently have is:
My father – Sylvan Kann FLEISHMAN, B 02/04/1897 in Baltimore, D.09/19/1991
in Baltimore.

His parents were Samuel FLEISHMAN and Fanny KANN.
My mother – Sophie SCHIMMEL, b 09/27/1900 in Baltimore, d 1983 in
Baltimore.
Her parents were David SCHIMMEL and Minnie APPEL, both >from Austria
I also have data on siblings of my parents and all later generations.
Any advice as to what to do next will be greatly appreciated.

Lee S. Fleishman ruthnlee@juno.com Monkton, Maryland

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig.
Please read the Welcome letter (email) that you received when you
subscribed to GerSig. It contains tips on how to begin your research
and links to websites that can help you.

The most important for a beginner is the JewishGen FAQ which you will
find at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>

Searching families RUDINER or variant of who lived in
Pinsk/Karlin in 19th Century.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

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I was informed by a fellow genner that a Rabbi TOSEFAA (I presume
that how its spelled in english, I only saw the hebrew) who is
documented as serving as a Rabbi in Pinsk until his death in 1866
had a daughter who married a *Mordecha Leib* family name not known.

I'm researching a possible relative >from Pinsk of those days, about
whom there is a family tradition that also served as a Rabbi in
Pinsk during the second half of the 19th century whose first name
was Mordechai, and his last name is not clear (something like RUDINER).

Is anybody out there connected to this Rabbi TOSEFAA.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

Searching families RUDINER or variant of who lived in
Pinsk/Karlin in 19th Century.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

I was informed by a fellow genner that a Rabbi TOSEFAA (I presume
that how its spelled in english, I only saw the hebrew) who is
documented as serving as a Rabbi in Pinsk until his death in 1866
had a daughter who married a *Mordecha Leib* family name not known.

I'm researching a possible relative >from Pinsk of those days, about
whom there is a family tradition that also served as a Rabbi in
Pinsk during the second half of the 19th century whose first name
was Mordechai, and his last name is not clear (something like RUDINER).

Is anybody out there connected to this Rabbi TOSEFAA.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

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Check the Morton Allen Directory of Ships , a book at
many large public and unviersity libraries also at the
FHL Libraries and NARA. But you can go on Steve
Morse's One Step to the EIDB and he has a link to
the Morton Allen Directory which I have not as yet tried
and so don't know how it works.

Diane Jacobs
New York
Researching Singman,Schmikow, Schumkav ,>from Vilna , Lithuania
CHEMERINSKY/ CZEMERINSKY >from Motol, Bereza, etc.
LESNIE, ROSENBERG, STEINBERG, LEVY, NARZEMSKY
JACOBSON, SHALTAKOFF, ENGLANDER, GREENFIELD, GLAZER,
YOSSELOWITZ, JOSEPH, GOLASSHOFF.

I am having trouble with one of the manifests in the EIDB.
As a cross-check I want to ascertain whether the ship in
question actually arrived in New York >from Antwerp on the
date stated. I have looked around the web and have had
some trouble locating an online source of ship arrivals
in New York by date.

Does such exist?

MODERATOR NOTE: You can find the Steven Morse one-step tools
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/

If there is a kind JewishGenner who can give me some help in
telephoning the Duvernay Cemetery in Laval, Canada regarding
who provided for the burial (and possible upkeep of the grave
site) for a woman who is a descendant of my family.

Please contact me privately.

Happy New Year to all
Carol Skydell
Laguna Woods, CA

Dear Tom et al

Thomas Fisher wrote:

I have a question. My last name is Fisher. I have heard Fisher
is a Scottish, English, German, Czech and even Jewish name.
My father thinks we might have some Jewish in our background,
is Fisher a Jewish name I don't even know.

Fisher is indeed a name common to all of the languages >from the
Teutonic group (including here Scotland which along with England
had considerable input >from the Danes, and of course, Yiddish- no
early contact with the Danes as far as I know.) The spelling varies
a bit, but it's basically the same word with the same meaning
(someone who fishes).

Incidentally there was a Jewish German playwright associated with
Bertolt Brecht named Irwin Fischer who in what is generally assumed
to be a flash of wit changed his last name to Piscator. (same name,
sort of, in Latin).

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg, CAnada)

Searching:
COHEN, KLAIMON, GROSSMAN, SPIVAK, PORTIGAL: Talna/Kiev (Ukraine);
BELOVITSKY(I), BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/
Montreal; YAFFE: Wiliez, nr Disna, Vilna Gubernia/ Winnipeg/
Montreal/North Dakota; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area

Re: the name Schaja and Schycha, do not forget the posibility
of the name "Shea." The similarity is often the basis for much
confusion. Shea is usually a derivative of Yehoshua (Joshua);
Shai can be short for "Ishayahu" (Isaiah).

Regards,

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, NY