Date   

Searching for Julius PRAGER - Tairnbach/Baden m Babette ISAAK #germany

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have finally come up with a new lead searching for descendants of PRAGER.
My grandmother's maternal uncle Julius PRAGER of Tairnbach/Baden, married
her paternal aunt, Babette ISAAK (born c. 1846)
Babette appears in the 1910 & 20 Pittsburgh Census records as a widow.
Children living with her (though they were all adults at the time):
William PRAGER - a sign painter. born - born c. 1874
Ben PRAGER - born c.1878 - was a soldier in the US Army between 1898 & 1919.
Rosa PRAGER - born c. 1876
Daisy PRAGER - bookkeeper - born c. 1881

If anyone has any more information on this family, please contact me. Thanks

Jane Vogel-Kohai Jerusalem, Israel <vogelko@netvision.net.il>


Re: Meshullam Feibush HELLER's Wife #rabbinic

Lainey Melnick <lmelnick@...>
 

I have lost the original message thread about this, but I think I
may have some information to help. It was brought up that the Tvuot
Shor was R'Efraim Zalman (d 1633), and due to the years he lived his
daughter could not have been the second wife of Meshalum Feiwish
HELLER who d. 1795. I have since found that R'Alexander Sender SHOR
(d. 1737), a great-grandnephew of R'Efraim Zalman, also published a
book by the same name and was also known by the title of the work,
Tvuot Shor. He is the right age to have a daughter who could've
married HELLER. The daughters that I have listed for him are Devorah
who married Israel Babad HESCHEL and Hinde who married Menecham
Meinish MARGOLIOTH. Forgive me if I've misremembered the thread.
Someone else may have more children for him. I found some
interesting SHOR information on this page:

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/trail/8095/legend.html

I hope this helps

Lainey Melnick, Austin, TX
http://www.linktoaustin.com/movies/page3.html

Searching:
Bootzin/Hurwitz/Myslis/Meisels/Taxey/Taksa/Heller/Pittelman/
Melnick/Millman/Rabinowitz/Shlomowitz/Freeman


German SIG #Germany Searching for Julius PRAGER - Tairnbach/Baden m Babette ISAAK #germany

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have finally come up with a new lead searching for descendants of PRAGER.
My grandmother's maternal uncle Julius PRAGER of Tairnbach/Baden, married
her paternal aunt, Babette ISAAK (born c. 1846)
Babette appears in the 1910 & 20 Pittsburgh Census records as a widow.
Children living with her (though they were all adults at the time):
William PRAGER - a sign painter. born - born c. 1874
Ben PRAGER - born c.1878 - was a soldier in the US Army between 1898 & 1919.
Rosa PRAGER - born c. 1876
Daisy PRAGER - bookkeeper - born c. 1881

If anyone has any more information on this family, please contact me. Thanks

Jane Vogel-Kohai Jerusalem, Israel <vogelko@netvision.net.il>


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Meshullam Feibush HELLER's Wife #rabbinic

Lainey Melnick <lmelnick@...>
 

I have lost the original message thread about this, but I think I
may have some information to help. It was brought up that the Tvuot
Shor was R'Efraim Zalman (d 1633), and due to the years he lived his
daughter could not have been the second wife of Meshalum Feiwish
HELLER who d. 1795. I have since found that R'Alexander Sender SHOR
(d. 1737), a great-grandnephew of R'Efraim Zalman, also published a
book by the same name and was also known by the title of the work,
Tvuot Shor. He is the right age to have a daughter who could've
married HELLER. The daughters that I have listed for him are Devorah
who married Israel Babad HESCHEL and Hinde who married Menecham
Meinish MARGOLIOTH. Forgive me if I've misremembered the thread.
Someone else may have more children for him. I found some
interesting SHOR information on this page:

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/trail/8095/legend.html

I hope this helps

Lainey Melnick, Austin, TX
http://www.linktoaustin.com/movies/page3.html

Searching:
Bootzin/Hurwitz/Myslis/Meisels/Taxey/Taksa/Heller/Pittelman/
Melnick/Millman/Rabinowitz/Shlomowitz/Freeman


JGS Oregon: "Trip to Ukraine" January 15th Monthly Meeting #ukraine

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

How I Prepared For My Trip to Ukraine and What I Learned
presented by Ron Doctor

Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: Mittleman Jewish Community Center (MJCC) Computer Room
6651 SW Capitol Highway
Portland, Oregon
Ron will describe his September 2002 visit to Ukraine. He will illustrate
the talk with some of the 1,400 photos that he took while on the trip. He
will discuss his experiences with:

Polish and Ukrainian Archives and Archivists
Ukrainian cemeteries
Unexpected discoveries
Hotels and restaurants
Pre-trip planning: what worked and what didn't
This event is FREE to JGSO members. Contribution of $2 at the door is
requested >from non-members. Contribution is credited to membership if you
join JGSO at the meeting. We will have available at the meeting JGSO's new
170 page, 3rd edition of "Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy: A Handbook
for Beginners with Supplementary Information for Advanced Research". The
Handbook is free to new members with paid membership, $18 to non-members,
and $12 to members.
For more information or questions, call Sandra Shapiro at (503) 694-5646, or
e-mail rondoctor@earthlink.net.

For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site
at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish Genealogy. Your name and e-mail
address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine JGS Oregon: "Trip to Ukraine" January 15th Monthly Meeting #ukraine

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

How I Prepared For My Trip to Ukraine and What I Learned
presented by Ron Doctor

Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: Mittleman Jewish Community Center (MJCC) Computer Room
6651 SW Capitol Highway
Portland, Oregon
Ron will describe his September 2002 visit to Ukraine. He will illustrate
the talk with some of the 1,400 photos that he took while on the trip. He
will discuss his experiences with:

Polish and Ukrainian Archives and Archivists
Ukrainian cemeteries
Unexpected discoveries
Hotels and restaurants
Pre-trip planning: what worked and what didn't
This event is FREE to JGSO members. Contribution of $2 at the door is
requested >from non-members. Contribution is credited to membership if you
join JGSO at the meeting. We will have available at the meeting JGSO's new
170 page, 3rd edition of "Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy: A Handbook
for Beginners with Supplementary Information for Advanced Research". The
Handbook is free to new members with paid membership, $18 to non-members,
and $12 to members.
For more information or questions, call Sandra Shapiro at (503) 694-5646, or
e-mail rondoctor@earthlink.net.

For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site
at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish Genealogy. Your name and e-mail
address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).


Pnei Yehoshua #rabbinic

NZF860@...
 

Dear All,

I humbly request that you review the following information and add
anything that may have some connection. My gg-grandmother's (born
aprox. 1869) name was Rachel BERENSTEIN (bas Shmuel Areah), she was
living in Mlawa/Chiechonov (which borders with Germany)-- I only
know (the original family tree has been lost) she or her husband
(Yecheil Mechel GARFINKEL (HaLevi) ben Yehuda Leib (who was also
living in that area)) was a direct decedent of the "Pnei Yehoshua"
(HaGoan R' Yehoshua Yaakov FALK). It seems to be that the Pnei
Yehoshua had a son named Areah Leib "Pnei Areah" who had a son name
Isaachar Beirish BERENSTEIN. With these facts in hand I have been
thinking it seems to be a strong possibility that this is the route
that I have been looking for. The problems I am facing though, are:

1) The family doesn't know for sure if the we are direct descendants
of the Pnei Yehoshua through the "GARFINKEL" or the "BERENSTEIN"
family, 2) Which child of The Pnei Yehoshua are we related through.

I thank you for your precious time in advance,

Sincerely,
Z Frankel
mailto:NZF860@aol.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Pnei Yehoshua #rabbinic

NZF860@...
 

Dear All,

I humbly request that you review the following information and add
anything that may have some connection. My gg-grandmother's (born
aprox. 1869) name was Rachel BERENSTEIN (bas Shmuel Areah), she was
living in Mlawa/Chiechonov (which borders with Germany)-- I only
know (the original family tree has been lost) she or her husband
(Yecheil Mechel GARFINKEL (HaLevi) ben Yehuda Leib (who was also
living in that area)) was a direct decedent of the "Pnei Yehoshua"
(HaGoan R' Yehoshua Yaakov FALK). It seems to be that the Pnei
Yehoshua had a son named Areah Leib "Pnei Areah" who had a son name
Isaachar Beirish BERENSTEIN. With these facts in hand I have been
thinking it seems to be a strong possibility that this is the route
that I have been looking for. The problems I am facing though, are:

1) The family doesn't know for sure if the we are direct descendants
of the Pnei Yehoshua through the "GARFINKEL" or the "BERENSTEIN"
family, 2) Which child of The Pnei Yehoshua are we related through.

I thank you for your precious time in advance,

Sincerely,
Z Frankel
mailto:NZF860@aol.com


JGS, SIG, and BOF meetings/lunches at DC2003 #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

This message is being posted now in the event that some of you may want to schedule a BOF (Birds of a Feather) meeting at the Washington Conference for your particular town or district in the Ukraine, & to inform you about arrangements that have already been made. Any plans for a BOF meeting will have to be made by the interested parties. The Ukraine SIG itself has already planned for a SIG Annual Meeting, & a SIG Luncheon at which we will have a guest speaker. - FNE


from Elias Savada <Elias@aol.com> -
On behalf of the 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, I want
to confirm the following SIG lunches have been set:

Belarus SIG 5th Anniversary, Monday July 21
Germany SIG, Monday July 21
Galicia SIG 10th Anniversary, Tuesday July 22
Latvia SIG, Tuesday July 22
Southern Africa SIG, Wednesday July 23
Ukraine SIG, Wednesday July 23

Several meeting requests for JGS, SIG, and BOF meetings have come into the
conference. It is important that you notify us as soon as possible (and no
later than March 1) if you wish time and space for any meetings at the
conference. Please include an estimate of the number of people expected to
attend (so we can assign an appropriate room) and if you have a preference
as to the date and whether you wish a morning or afternoon time slot. Each
meeting room will have a lectern and microphone. Please let us know whether
you need any additional AV equipment.

We will try to accommodate scheduling requests, but we cannot guarantee
specific times. The earlier you let us know of your needs, the better the
chances that you will get the date and time that you want.

Please send all requests to Ben Okner, b.okner@verizon.net.

Thank you,

Elias Savada
Co-Chair, 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Elias@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine JGS, SIG, and BOF meetings/lunches at DC2003 #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

This message is being posted now in the event that some of you may want to schedule a BOF (Birds of a Feather) meeting at the Washington Conference for your particular town or district in the Ukraine, & to inform you about arrangements that have already been made. Any plans for a BOF meeting will have to be made by the interested parties. The Ukraine SIG itself has already planned for a SIG Annual Meeting, & a SIG Luncheon at which we will have a guest speaker. - FNE


from Elias Savada <Elias@aol.com> -
On behalf of the 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, I want
to confirm the following SIG lunches have been set:

Belarus SIG 5th Anniversary, Monday July 21
Germany SIG, Monday July 21
Galicia SIG 10th Anniversary, Tuesday July 22
Latvia SIG, Tuesday July 22
Southern Africa SIG, Wednesday July 23
Ukraine SIG, Wednesday July 23

Several meeting requests for JGS, SIG, and BOF meetings have come into the
conference. It is important that you notify us as soon as possible (and no
later than March 1) if you wish time and space for any meetings at the
conference. Please include an estimate of the number of people expected to
attend (so we can assign an appropriate room) and if you have a preference
as to the date and whether you wish a morning or afternoon time slot. Each
meeting room will have a lectern and microphone. Please let us know whether
you need any additional AV equipment.

We will try to accommodate scheduling requests, but we cannot guarantee
specific times. The earlier you let us know of your needs, the better the
chances that you will get the date and time that you want.

Please send all requests to Ben Okner, b.okner@verizon.net.

Thank you,

Elias Savada
Co-Chair, 23rd International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Elias@aol.com


Kiev Researcher #ukraine

BvJo@...
 

For this New Year I have a small problem. Last year I corresponded with a
researcher in Kiev and I only remember her first name, Elleanora. After
several months of no Emails I deleted her >from my address book.

Jan. 4th, I received a New Years Greeting >from her that had an attachment to
it. It has taken me several days to open this and I find that she claims
that she has found a document relating to a person whose name is the same as
the one I had asked her to research, but in a different shtetl, in a
different gubernia. This name is an unusual one and might belong to my
family, so I would like to contact her about this find.

In my efforts to open the attachment, I accidentally deleted the original
Email which would have had her address. So now I have a breakthrough and
cannot follow it up.

Does anyone know a Kiev researcher named Elleanora ...................? and
an Email address for her.


** Please reply to me personally at; rosa3035@aol.com **

Nathan Greenberg
San Diego, CA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kiev Researcher #ukraine

BvJo@...
 

For this New Year I have a small problem. Last year I corresponded with a
researcher in Kiev and I only remember her first name, Elleanora. After
several months of no Emails I deleted her >from my address book.

Jan. 4th, I received a New Years Greeting >from her that had an attachment to
it. It has taken me several days to open this and I find that she claims
that she has found a document relating to a person whose name is the same as
the one I had asked her to research, but in a different shtetl, in a
different gubernia. This name is an unusual one and might belong to my
family, so I would like to contact her about this find.

In my efforts to open the attachment, I accidentally deleted the original
Email which would have had her address. So now I have a breakthrough and
cannot follow it up.

Does anyone know a Kiev researcher named Elleanora ...................? and
an Email address for her.


** Please reply to me personally at; rosa3035@aol.com **

Nathan Greenberg
San Diego, CA


BREUER [ Bihar, Hungary] BREWER [ NYC & NJ ] GROSS NYC #romania

FbandJd@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

My great -uncle Ignatz BREUER emigrated >from Nagyvarad, Hungary May 8, 1903
with his daughter Fanny 15, to join their cousin David GRUNSTEIN in NYC.
August 9, 1903 his wife Jenny DEUTS BREUER, >from Dioszeg, Hungary followed
with their sons Lajos, Erno and Yeno to join him in Allegheny, PA.

With the receipt of Ignatz BREUER's naturalization records >from the NYC
archives I have additional information on the family. By 1911 Fanny BREUER,
born 4/14/1888 in Vamospercs, Hungary was living at 1493 Avenue A. Her
married name was GROSS. Lajos, /Louis was born February 1, 1891, also in
Vamospercs. Erno / Ernest was born May 1, 1892 in Nagyvarad as was Yeno /
Joseph, who was born June 9, 1893. In 1906 when Ignatz BREUER first filed his
papers of intention to become a citizen the family was living at 515 E. 81st.
Street. By 1911 the three boys were living with their parents at 366 W. 111th
Street, NYC.

The 1920 NJ census showed the BREWER family, Ignatz 57, Jenny 50 and Ernest
27, living in Palisades Park, NJ with Sigmond PAP, butler and Lydia PAP,
servant. Ignatz and his son Ernest were produce merchants, the same
occupation that the BREUER family had in Hungary.

A check of the EIDB showed that in 1922 Ernest BREWER and his wife Alice M.
sailed to France. Ernest's passport number and the date it was issued plus
the date and place of his naturalization were on the ship's records. The
address given for the family was 510 Produce Exchange, NYC.

The 1930 NYC census has Ernest BREWER, 37, Magyarorszag, broker, living at E.
90th Street with his wife of 9 years Alice M. >from England and their maid
Geneva. Ignatz BREUER/BREWER and his wife Jenny could not be found anywhere.

Does anyone know this family?

Best Regards,
Fran Meng
Walnut Creek, CA
E-MAIL: fbandjd@aol.com [please reply privately]

Researching: GOTTLIEB, BREWER, BREUER, KRAUS, SZUNYOG, HERTZ, GROSS,
GRUNSTEIN,
GLUCK: BIHAR/BIHOR, HUNGARY/ROMANIA, NYC & NJ


Romania SIG #Romania BREUER [ Bihar, Hungary] BREWER [ NYC & NJ ] GROSS NYC #romania

FbandJd@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

My great -uncle Ignatz BREUER emigrated >from Nagyvarad, Hungary May 8, 1903
with his daughter Fanny 15, to join their cousin David GRUNSTEIN in NYC.
August 9, 1903 his wife Jenny DEUTS BREUER, >from Dioszeg, Hungary followed
with their sons Lajos, Erno and Yeno to join him in Allegheny, PA.

With the receipt of Ignatz BREUER's naturalization records >from the NYC
archives I have additional information on the family. By 1911 Fanny BREUER,
born 4/14/1888 in Vamospercs, Hungary was living at 1493 Avenue A. Her
married name was GROSS. Lajos, /Louis was born February 1, 1891, also in
Vamospercs. Erno / Ernest was born May 1, 1892 in Nagyvarad as was Yeno /
Joseph, who was born June 9, 1893. In 1906 when Ignatz BREUER first filed his
papers of intention to become a citizen the family was living at 515 E. 81st.
Street. By 1911 the three boys were living with their parents at 366 W. 111th
Street, NYC.

The 1920 NJ census showed the BREWER family, Ignatz 57, Jenny 50 and Ernest
27, living in Palisades Park, NJ with Sigmond PAP, butler and Lydia PAP,
servant. Ignatz and his son Ernest were produce merchants, the same
occupation that the BREUER family had in Hungary.

A check of the EIDB showed that in 1922 Ernest BREWER and his wife Alice M.
sailed to France. Ernest's passport number and the date it was issued plus
the date and place of his naturalization were on the ship's records. The
address given for the family was 510 Produce Exchange, NYC.

The 1930 NYC census has Ernest BREWER, 37, Magyarorszag, broker, living at E.
90th Street with his wife of 9 years Alice M. >from England and their maid
Geneva. Ignatz BREUER/BREWER and his wife Jenny could not be found anywhere.

Does anyone know this family?

Best Regards,
Fran Meng
Walnut Creek, CA
E-MAIL: fbandjd@aol.com [please reply privately]

Researching: GOTTLIEB, BREWER, BREUER, KRAUS, SZUNYOG, HERTZ, GROSS,
GRUNSTEIN,
GLUCK: BIHAR/BIHOR, HUNGARY/ROMANIA, NYC & NJ


Orgeyev/Orhei Group #romania

Terry Lasky <tlasky@...>
 

I would like to start an informal email group for ORGEYEV/ORHEI. I am
the Jewishgen Shtetlink coordinator for ORGEYEV but believe that an
email group would also be very helpful. We could exchange information
and ideas and possibly help each other. The Shtetlink Site has not
been updated for quite awhile but I have a lot of new information and
hope
to update it soon. There are many good things going on right now
related
to ORGEYEV and I would like to start sending out information in a small
newsletter every couple of months. This is not to replace the Shtetlink
site but to act as a supplement to it and to include communications and
information not practical to include on the site. It is also NOT a
replacement for the Jewishgen Family Finder, I would hope that everyone
has registered their family names on that site.

If you are interested in being part of this group please respond to me
at tlasky@bwn.net (Do NOT reply to this email). I need to know the
following information:

Name
Location (City, State, Country)
email address
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Hebrew?
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Yiddish?
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Russian?
Are you interested in helping with the Shtetlink Site (HTML or Web
Experience)?
Do you have documents, pictures, information that would be appropriate
for the site?
Is there anything else that you can offer as a help to the group?

You do not have to do any of the above to be part of the group!

Terry Lasky
Centennial, Colorado, USA


Romania SIG #Romania Orgeyev/Orhei Group #romania

Terry Lasky <tlasky@...>
 

I would like to start an informal email group for ORGEYEV/ORHEI. I am
the Jewishgen Shtetlink coordinator for ORGEYEV but believe that an
email group would also be very helpful. We could exchange information
and ideas and possibly help each other. The Shtetlink Site has not
been updated for quite awhile but I have a lot of new information and
hope
to update it soon. There are many good things going on right now
related
to ORGEYEV and I would like to start sending out information in a small
newsletter every couple of months. This is not to replace the Shtetlink
site but to act as a supplement to it and to include communications and
information not practical to include on the site. It is also NOT a
replacement for the Jewishgen Family Finder, I would hope that everyone
has registered their family names on that site.

If you are interested in being part of this group please respond to me
at tlasky@bwn.net (Do NOT reply to this email). I need to know the
following information:

Name
Location (City, State, Country)
email address
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Hebrew?
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Yiddish?
Are you interested in helping translate documents in Russian?
Are you interested in helping with the Shtetlink Site (HTML or Web
Experience)?
Do you have documents, pictures, information that would be appropriate
for the site?
Is there anything else that you can offer as a help to the group?

You do not have to do any of the above to be part of the group!

Terry Lasky
Centennial, Colorado, USA


Rabbis #general

judy ford <ford@...>
 

I wonder if any know where I could find a list of Rabbi who lived in Pultusk
the late 18th or early 19th Century.
Judy Ford

MODERATOR NOTE: You may have more success with the resources and discussion board maintained by RAVSIG at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbis #general

judy ford <ford@...>
 

I wonder if any know where I could find a list of Rabbi who lived in Pultusk
the late 18th or early 19th Century.
Judy Ford

MODERATOR NOTE: You may have more success with the resources and discussion board maintained by RAVSIG at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


United States Holocaust Memorial Museum link change #general

Fred Apel <fapel@...>
 

Important Notice...

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum changed the URL syntax of
their database, thereby
requiring anyone who has a link to it >from their web site to change the
URL of their link.

JewishGen has written a new script to facilitate access to this
database. The new syntax is documented at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/documentation/htminstr.htm#ushmm

If you have a link to the USHMM database on your ShtetLinks page, you
need to update your code to use the new syntax. Please make this change
as soon as possible.

Fred Apel
ShtetLinks Project Manager


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen United States Holocaust Memorial Museum link change #general

Fred Apel <fapel@...>
 

Important Notice...

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum changed the URL syntax of
their database, thereby
requiring anyone who has a link to it >from their web site to change the
URL of their link.

JewishGen has written a new script to facilitate access to this
database. The new syntax is documented at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/documentation/htminstr.htm#ushmm

If you have a link to the USHMM database on your ShtetLinks page, you
need to update your code to use the new syntax. Please make this change
as soon as possible.

Fred Apel
ShtetLinks Project Manager