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Rel Yves Goulnik's "Ternovska" (Ternovka, Ternivka) #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

For M. Yves Goulnik, (Yves Goulnik@...):

Because M. Goulnik may have misssed it here is a repeat of a message I
sent to the Ukraine group on April 15, 2002 in response to another Ternovka
inquiry which had been posted by Joe Murray.


<<On Apr.14/02 Joe Murray(cq015@...) wrote in part
:
<<Am looking for any information on/about Ternovka and so am asking if
there'll be others who can assist me in searching my roots.
Are there any tentative plans to have any program/activities on
Ternovka?
Am I the only one looking for Ternovka details?
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated by a number of people who
have come to a dead-end in family trees.>>

Although I am not genealogically interested in Ternovka, I exchanged a few
messages with Mr. Murray about "Ternifka" in 1998.

The town's name can also be spelled as "Ternifka" or "Ternivka" and there
are least seven and perhaps as many as nine towns which bear this name! One
is near Uman, another is in the coal-mining region of Dnipropetrovsk. I
haven't tried hard to find where the others are located.

There is a yizkor book for a "Ternovka" and if he hasn't already done so,
Mr. Murray should check Jewishgen's Yizkor book project to see whether all or
any part of it has been translated. Also the Family Finder at Jewishgen
should also be searched.

A search using the google search engine will turn up a bit more about the
Ternovka that in the Dnipropetrovsk region. According to:

http://jew.dp.ua/english/news.htm

a Purim celebration was recently held in Ternovka.

Also, at Ancestry.com a "DavidCaveat (@aol.com)" left a message about a
town bearing the name in the Vinnitsya oblast and gave the name of the Yizkor
book as:

Bar-Avi, G., ed. "Avaratenu Ternovka" ("Our Town Ternovka"). Tel Aviv:
Ternovka Society 1972>>

Alan Shefman's response today (Aug.12/02) to Mr. Goulnik regarding archival
information available at Miram Weiner's Roots to Roots Foundation should also prove helpful to other Ternovka researchers.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Rel Yves Goulnik's "Ternovska" (Ternovka, Ternivka) #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

For M. Yves Goulnik, (Yves Goulnik@...):

Because M. Goulnik may have misssed it here is a repeat of a message I
sent to the Ukraine group on April 15, 2002 in response to another Ternovka
inquiry which had been posted by Joe Murray.


<<On Apr.14/02 Joe Murray(cq015@...) wrote in part
:
<<Am looking for any information on/about Ternovka and so am asking if
there'll be others who can assist me in searching my roots.
Are there any tentative plans to have any program/activities on
Ternovka?
Am I the only one looking for Ternovka details?
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated by a number of people who
have come to a dead-end in family trees.>>

Although I am not genealogically interested in Ternovka, I exchanged a few
messages with Mr. Murray about "Ternifka" in 1998.

The town's name can also be spelled as "Ternifka" or "Ternivka" and there
are least seven and perhaps as many as nine towns which bear this name! One
is near Uman, another is in the coal-mining region of Dnipropetrovsk. I
haven't tried hard to find where the others are located.

There is a yizkor book for a "Ternovka" and if he hasn't already done so,
Mr. Murray should check Jewishgen's Yizkor book project to see whether all or
any part of it has been translated. Also the Family Finder at Jewishgen
should also be searched.

A search using the google search engine will turn up a bit more about the
Ternovka that in the Dnipropetrovsk region. According to:

http://jew.dp.ua/english/news.htm

a Purim celebration was recently held in Ternovka.

Also, at Ancestry.com a "DavidCaveat (@aol.com)" left a message about a
town bearing the name in the Vinnitsya oblast and gave the name of the Yizkor
book as:

Bar-Avi, G., ed. "Avaratenu Ternovka" ("Our Town Ternovka"). Tel Aviv:
Ternovka Society 1972>>

Alan Shefman's response today (Aug.12/02) to Mr. Goulnik regarding archival
information available at Miram Weiner's Roots to Roots Foundation should also prove helpful to other Ternovka researchers.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

New York-area Jewish cemeteries #general

David Linden <itinerantscribe@...>
 

Is there a list of New York-area Jewish cemeteries, with their
telephone numbers? I could such.

Thanks.

David Linden
East Williston,NY
itinerantscribe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's InfoFiles can often help with this type
of inquiry. The InfoFiles are organized by topic and country, and a
list can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ . Clicking
on "United States" will take you to a list of InfoFiles that includes
a New York City area cemetery directory. The direct link to this
directory is http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycems.txt

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York-area Jewish cemeteries #general

David Linden <itinerantscribe@...>
 

Is there a list of New York-area Jewish cemeteries, with their
telephone numbers? I could such.

Thanks.

David Linden
East Williston,NY
itinerantscribe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's InfoFiles can often help with this type
of inquiry. The InfoFiles are organized by topic and country, and a
list can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ . Clicking
on "United States" will take you to a list of InfoFiles that includes
a New York City area cemetery directory. The direct link to this
directory is http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycems.txt

Viewmate 1690 : help deciphering ship manifest, GULNICK #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

Can anyone help me decipher this small ship manifest extract:

- street name in Montreal (? Valley)
- cousin name (Fran?? ??ik)

These were two GULNICK sisters in transit at Ellis Island to
Montreal, Canada (March 1907)

Click the link below for VM document. Please reply in private

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/source/vm1690.html

thanks/Yves GOULNIK

Mulhouse (Alsace), France
yves.goulnik@...
http://goulniky.free.fr/

researching :
GULNIK / GULNICK / GOULNIK / GOLNIK / GOLNICK >from Ternovka then
Odessa, Ukraine; CHAPOCHNIK / CHLAPOCHNIK / SCHAPOSHNIK / SHLAPOSHNIK
PIKOWSKI

A Specific Funeral Director in Sarasota, Florida #general

David Linden <itinerantscribe@...>
 

Louis LEBOVITZ died on 28 September, 1945, while on vacation in
Sarasota. His vacation address was xxx South Osprey Avenue.

On the day of his death, his body was shipped to New York City,
his permanent place of residence, for burial. I have been unable
to locate his grave in any of the New York-area Jewish cemeteries;
I know he is buried in one of them.

For some reason, his name is shown on his certificate of death as
Louis LABORITZ ; I will re-call the New York cemeteries for a grave
under that name.

The Sarasota funeral director is listed as C. R. SHAMRAN, or SHERMAN,
or SHERWIN, or ???? It's a hand-written signature, not easily read.

The name of the local registrar on the certificate is Alice SEAWELL.

It would help if I could locate the Sarasota funeral director who
shipped his body; there might be a record of to whom it was shipped.

Any and all suggestions would be welcomed.

Please respond privately.

David Linden
East Williston, NY
itinerantscribe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Street address deleted in accordance with JewishGen's
privacy policy.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 1690 : help deciphering ship manifest, GULNICK #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

Can anyone help me decipher this small ship manifest extract:

- street name in Montreal (? Valley)
- cousin name (Fran?? ??ik)

These were two GULNICK sisters in transit at Ellis Island to
Montreal, Canada (March 1907)

Click the link below for VM document. Please reply in private

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/source/vm1690.html

thanks/Yves GOULNIK

Mulhouse (Alsace), France
yves.goulnik@...
http://goulniky.free.fr/

researching :
GULNIK / GULNICK / GOULNIK / GOLNIK / GOLNICK >from Ternovka then
Odessa, Ukraine; CHAPOCHNIK / CHLAPOCHNIK / SCHAPOSHNIK / SHLAPOSHNIK
PIKOWSKI

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Specific Funeral Director in Sarasota, Florida #general

David Linden <itinerantscribe@...>
 

Louis LEBOVITZ died on 28 September, 1945, while on vacation in
Sarasota. His vacation address was xxx South Osprey Avenue.

On the day of his death, his body was shipped to New York City,
his permanent place of residence, for burial. I have been unable
to locate his grave in any of the New York-area Jewish cemeteries;
I know he is buried in one of them.

For some reason, his name is shown on his certificate of death as
Louis LABORITZ ; I will re-call the New York cemeteries for a grave
under that name.

The Sarasota funeral director is listed as C. R. SHAMRAN, or SHERMAN,
or SHERWIN, or ???? It's a hand-written signature, not easily read.

The name of the local registrar on the certificate is Alice SEAWELL.

It would help if I could locate the Sarasota funeral director who
shipped his body; there might be a record of to whom it was shipped.

Any and all suggestions would be welcomed.

Please respond privately.

David Linden
East Williston, NY
itinerantscribe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Street address deleted in accordance with JewishGen's
privacy policy.

Ellis Island research - FIERMAN #general

Nancy Hauser <nhauser@...>
 

I just spent a couple of hours, poring over the ships manifest
for the Carmania which came into NY on April 4th, 1906. All 70
pages of it!

My husband's grandmother's (and great-aunt's) application for
citizenship say that they came >from Vilna, Russia out of Antwerp,
Belgium on the ship Carmania, landed in NY April XX, 1906.
Although the Carmania only sailed >from Liverpool, the Cunard web
site mentioned a train >from Antwerp in 1906 - that might explain
that discrepancy.

There are several entries that read ....,.... where I assume
the passenger's name was unreadable, some of which were Hebrew
and Russian, although none say Vilna or Wilna (there are some
people aboard whose town is Wilna). I don't see a woman, about
30, named Katie, traveling with three girls under 10 years old -
Mamie, Lillian, and Rebecca. I was expecting a slightly different
surname >from Fierman - possibly Fireman, but nothing is close.

I need advice! I would very much like to track these people
down, for my mother-in-law, for my husband, and for my daughters.

Thanks,
Nancy

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island research - FIERMAN #general

Nancy Hauser <nhauser@...>
 

I just spent a couple of hours, poring over the ships manifest
for the Carmania which came into NY on April 4th, 1906. All 70
pages of it!

My husband's grandmother's (and great-aunt's) application for
citizenship say that they came >from Vilna, Russia out of Antwerp,
Belgium on the ship Carmania, landed in NY April XX, 1906.
Although the Carmania only sailed >from Liverpool, the Cunard web
site mentioned a train >from Antwerp in 1906 - that might explain
that discrepancy.

There are several entries that read ....,.... where I assume
the passenger's name was unreadable, some of which were Hebrew
and Russian, although none say Vilna or Wilna (there are some
people aboard whose town is Wilna). I don't see a woman, about
30, named Katie, traveling with three girls under 10 years old -
Mamie, Lillian, and Rebecca. I was expecting a slightly different
surname >from Fierman - possibly Fireman, but nothing is close.

I need advice! I would very much like to track these people
down, for my mother-in-law, for my husband, and for my daughters.

Thanks,
Nancy

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We are pleased to announce the opening of the brand new JewishGen On-Line
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and visit to see our tremendous listng of book, videos and software. The
new Mall now provides an advanced search system; simpler checkout; and,
ability to FAX orders. Check out the FAQ (freqently asked questions) for
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A 10% DISCOUNT (in addition to our already favorable pricing) was introduced
to celebrate the opening and to honor the 22nd IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy opening in Toronto.

This discount applies to everything listed on our Mall including the new
listings shown below. Our Mall will automatically deduct the 10% when you
place an order on line. For those who prefer not to submit credit card
information on line, orders can be placed by FAX either by submitting credit
card information or with a purchase order. Fax to 1-281-535-2204. Phone:
1-281-535-2200. You can deduct this 10% >from your order.

** THIS OFFER EXPIRES August 15, 2002 at midnight Central Daylight time.
Mailed in orders postmarked by that date will be honored.

Orders can be mailed to:

JewishGen, Inc.
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FW: jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org #unitedkingdom

Jackie Schwartz <jackiealan@...>
 

Here are the family members I'm looking for.:

Fanny COLLINER who died July 25, 1891 at 2 Bell Lane, Spitalfields,
Whitechapel.Her deceased husband spelled the name KALINA.

Their offspring were:

Rochelea (Solomon) CHANOVER, and her children Surcha, Shaina Bruicha
(Jennie), Tilly (Toba) , Katie Anna

Chia (Philip) SASOFSKY whose children were A.J. Stanley, Harry Stanley,
Annie (MOSS)

Dora (Elias) LIPSKY - Fannie, Carrie, Abe, Jack and Ben

Morris KALINA/COLLINER/COLLINS - Albert, Sam, Lennie, Bennie, Hannah (aka
Sadie)

Eva (Alec) SNELWAR/LIPSKI - Betty, Corrie, Alf, Morrie, Stanley, Sarah and
Jack.

Eva Snelwar LIPSKI died in 1952 in Chester County, sub district of Sale.
She lived at 26 Sundown Drive.

If you have any information on any of these relatives I'd be glad to hear
from you.
Jackie Schwartz
Santa Ana, California

MODERATOR NOTE: May I suggest that members register their relatives names at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. I would prefer that this discussion group did not become an alternative medium for this. Let us have specific enquiries now rather than more lists.

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org #unitedkingdom

Jackie Schwartz <jackiealan@...>
 

Here are the family members I'm looking for.:

Fanny COLLINER who died July 25, 1891 at 2 Bell Lane, Spitalfields,
Whitechapel.Her deceased husband spelled the name KALINA.

Their offspring were:

Rochelea (Solomon) CHANOVER, and her children Surcha, Shaina Bruicha
(Jennie), Tilly (Toba) , Katie Anna

Chia (Philip) SASOFSKY whose children were A.J. Stanley, Harry Stanley,
Annie (MOSS)

Dora (Elias) LIPSKY - Fannie, Carrie, Abe, Jack and Ben

Morris KALINA/COLLINER/COLLINS - Albert, Sam, Lennie, Bennie, Hannah (aka
Sadie)

Eva (Alec) SNELWAR/LIPSKI - Betty, Corrie, Alf, Morrie, Stanley, Sarah and
Jack.

Eva Snelwar LIPSKI died in 1952 in Chester County, sub district of Sale.
She lived at 26 Sundown Drive.

If you have any information on any of these relatives I'd be glad to hear
from you.
Jackie Schwartz
Santa Ana, California

MODERATOR NOTE: May I suggest that members register their relatives names at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. I would prefer that this discussion group did not become an alternative medium for this. Let us have specific enquiries now rather than more lists.

BERNERT in Sheffield, and Hampstead Garden Suburb #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

I am looking for the family of Joseph (Seppel) BERNERT. He was born in
Nurnberg, Germany, around 1885. His family were hop merchants. He later had
an interest in a plastics (celluloid) and toys factory, and in 1934 he
emigrated to Sheffield.

Evenutally he became a senior director in the Halex corporation (ping-pong
balls, brushes) and moved to London. His home was close to the Golders Green
crematorium. He had, I believe, just one daughter who became an officer in
the ATS in WW2. I assume he died around 1950-60

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>
seeking:
WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom BERNERT in Sheffield, and Hampstead Garden Suburb #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

I am looking for the family of Joseph (Seppel) BERNERT. He was born in
Nurnberg, Germany, around 1885. His family were hop merchants. He later had
an interest in a plastics (celluloid) and toys factory, and in 1934 he
emigrated to Sheffield.

Evenutally he became a senior director in the Halex corporation (ping-pong
balls, brushes) and moved to London. His home was close to the Golders Green
crematorium. He had, I believe, just one daughter who became an officer in
the ATS in WW2. I assume he died around 1950-60

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>
seeking:
WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

Marina del Ray California - need street address #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I am trying to make contact with someone in Marina del Ray
California, but the online lookups do not give street addresses.

Is there someone who can look up this address for me?

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

KOVLENOV #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

I saw an announcement yesterday of a recntly published KOVLENOV family
history, written by Dr Nathan Karpil Kovlenov and published by the
author. It is 240 pages and I assume it is in Hebrew. The announcement
gives a Tel-Aviv area phone number for the author and I will hold onto
it for a few days.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Mr. Pickholtz privately for further
information.

Researching Jewish Ancestors in UK #general

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

May I also add that there is a discussion group at Rootsweb called
British-Jewry. We have a lovely group of people sharing information
and making suggestions.

BRITISH-JEWRY-L-request@...

Write "subscribe" in body of messsage

Jackye Sullins
British-Jewry Joint List "Owner"

Slopsellers #general

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I missed the original post about slopsellers but noticed a mention
of it in today's digest. I want to point out that a slopseller is a
person who made uniforms for the British military. I was under the
impression that he sold or collected garbage but recently learned that
is not the case. It's a strange name but that *is* the occupation -
clothing.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego