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Leczyca/Piatek #rabbinic

Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I have seen in a Polish historical bulletin that, at the end of the
18th century (let us say >from 1765 to 1805) the Jews of Piatek
(north of Lodz) did not form a kehilla (community) but were
considered as a "sub - kahal" of Leczyca, a bigger town 12km from
there. Has anyone seen whether in the Leczycza Yizkor Book ( Sefer
Lenthshitz) or elsewhere, a list of rabbis of Leczyca for that
period and some explanations about them?

Thanks for your answers,

Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Leczyca/Piatek #rabbinic

Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I have seen in a Polish historical bulletin that, at the end of the
18th century (let us say >from 1765 to 1805) the Jews of Piatek
(north of Lodz) did not form a kehilla (community) but were
considered as a "sub - kahal" of Leczyca, a bigger town 12km from
there. Has anyone seen whether in the Leczycza Yizkor Book ( Sefer
Lenthshitz) or elsewhere, a list of rabbis of Leczyca for that
period and some explanations about them?

Thanks for your answers,

Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)


never underestimate JewishGen's ability to make connections! #latinamerica

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

On Sep 21 (last week) I took it upon myself to answer a lostNfound
request for help. I posted a message with very little information....just
that we were trying to help someone locate a JewishGenner named
Miguel...(last name unknown) searching NICOLAEVSKY , a name associated with
Brazil and Haifa. We only had a partial address in Israel

Today (less than one week later) I received a message >from Eli Kislyuk ,a
JewishGenner in Israel. Miguel is Eli's wife's cousin! Eli spoke to him
and the contact information is now complete in the JGFF. A message is on
the way to the person who contacted LostNFound asking for help.

What better demonstration can anybody provide of what JewishGen is all
about? Plain and simple, JewishGen is helping people make connections.

Is this kind of care and concern not worth your support?
How could this happen to you if JewishGen were not here to serve as the
central source for connecting people with family in common.

JewishGen is the means people have for helping one another, helping people
we've never met....and may never meet, at least not in person.

May we all meet <g> at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.ihtml and make
that contribution that will keep JewishGen where it belongs.....on line as
a public service....on line 24/7....on line and serving you all.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Latin America #LatinAmerica never underestimate JewishGen's ability to make connections! #latinamerica

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

On Sep 21 (last week) I took it upon myself to answer a lostNfound
request for help. I posted a message with very little information....just
that we were trying to help someone locate a JewishGenner named
Miguel...(last name unknown) searching NICOLAEVSKY , a name associated with
Brazil and Haifa. We only had a partial address in Israel

Today (less than one week later) I received a message >from Eli Kislyuk ,a
JewishGenner in Israel. Miguel is Eli's wife's cousin! Eli spoke to him
and the contact information is now complete in the JGFF. A message is on
the way to the person who contacted LostNFound asking for help.

What better demonstration can anybody provide of what JewishGen is all
about? Plain and simple, JewishGen is helping people make connections.

Is this kind of care and concern not worth your support?
How could this happen to you if JewishGen were not here to serve as the
central source for connecting people with family in common.

JewishGen is the means people have for helping one another, helping people
we've never met....and may never meet, at least not in person.

May we all meet <g> at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.ihtml and make
that contribution that will keep JewishGen where it belongs.....on line as
a public service....on line 24/7....on line and serving you all.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


October meeting of the JGS of Bergen County #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County will be having its next
meeting on Sunday, October 13, 2002. Michael Schutzel will talk about
using the resources of the Family History Center in Emerson, New Jersey.
Michael's talk will discuss what the Family History Center is, what you
can find there, where can you find it, and what you should bring with
you. The main meeting starts at 2PM and is held at the JCC on the
Palisades in Tenafly. The JCC of the Palisades is located at 401 East
Clinton Avenue in Tenafly. Their phone number is 201-569-7900.

There will be no schmooze session this month.

If you need directions, go to our homepage at
http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc/

* * About Michael Schutzel * *
Michael Schutzel is a long time member of the JGS of Bergen County, and
is a volunteer at the Family History Center in Emerson, New Jersey.

* * Upcoming meetings * *
November 11: John Celardo of NARA (National Archives and Records
Administration) will discuss the 1930 census, which becomes available in
April, 2002.

December 8: Mark Halpern will talk about "Jewish Records Indexing
(JRI-Poland): 1,500,000 record indices and more.".

* * Membership* *
January marked the beginning of out new membership year. If you are not
already a member for 2002, please consider joining. If you have been a
member in the past, please renew your membership. Membership in the JGS
of Bergen County entitles you to 4 issues of our newsletter, "The
Gatherers". In addition, members can borrow selected books and tapes
from our 400 book library. Please start your membership by mailing a
tax deductible check for $20 ($25 for couples) to

JGS of Bergen County
c/o Edward Rosenbaum
135 Chestnut Ridge Road
Montvale, NJ 07645
* * *

Sincerely,
Edward L. Rosenbaum
President
JGS of Bergen County, NJ

About the JGS of Bergen county

We are an organization of Jewish genealogists who are enjoying the
growing pastime of tracing our families' roots back to the Old Country
and collecting records of our family, some of them hundreds of years
old. The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County is one of over 70
member organizations of the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen October meeting of the JGS of Bergen County #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County will be having its next
meeting on Sunday, October 13, 2002. Michael Schutzel will talk about
using the resources of the Family History Center in Emerson, New Jersey.
Michael's talk will discuss what the Family History Center is, what you
can find there, where can you find it, and what you should bring with
you. The main meeting starts at 2PM and is held at the JCC on the
Palisades in Tenafly. The JCC of the Palisades is located at 401 East
Clinton Avenue in Tenafly. Their phone number is 201-569-7900.

There will be no schmooze session this month.

If you need directions, go to our homepage at
http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc/

* * About Michael Schutzel * *
Michael Schutzel is a long time member of the JGS of Bergen County, and
is a volunteer at the Family History Center in Emerson, New Jersey.

* * Upcoming meetings * *
November 11: John Celardo of NARA (National Archives and Records
Administration) will discuss the 1930 census, which becomes available in
April, 2002.

December 8: Mark Halpern will talk about "Jewish Records Indexing
(JRI-Poland): 1,500,000 record indices and more.".

* * Membership* *
January marked the beginning of out new membership year. If you are not
already a member for 2002, please consider joining. If you have been a
member in the past, please renew your membership. Membership in the JGS
of Bergen County entitles you to 4 issues of our newsletter, "The
Gatherers". In addition, members can borrow selected books and tapes
from our 400 book library. Please start your membership by mailing a
tax deductible check for $20 ($25 for couples) to

JGS of Bergen County
c/o Edward Rosenbaum
135 Chestnut Ridge Road
Montvale, NJ 07645
* * *

Sincerely,
Edward L. Rosenbaum
President
JGS of Bergen County, NJ

About the JGS of Bergen county

We are an organization of Jewish genealogists who are enjoying the
growing pastime of tracing our families' roots back to the Old Country
and collecting records of our family, some of them hundreds of years
old. The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County is one of over 70
member organizations of the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


"Pottava, Russia" #belarus

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Are you sure "Pottava, Russia" isn't really Poltava,
which is now in Ukraine?

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Belarus SIG #Belarus "Pottava, Russia" #belarus

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Are you sure "Pottava, Russia" isn't really Poltava,
which is now in Ukraine?

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Russian-English transliteration #belarus

Herbert Lazerow
 

Recently I received >from Mogilev Jewish community the list (1351 entry) of
local Jews killed in the ghetto.The list is in Russian,I would like to
translate it into English.Can I find a software for transliteration cyrillic
letters into latin letters ?
Is the list printed, or in handwriting? If it is printed, it would
not be terribly time-consuming to transliterate it by hand.
If you have the list in electronic form, you could use a global
search and replace feature of a word processing program.
Either way, you need to decide what equivalent latin letters
to use. Mostly, that is not problematic, but there are some decisions
that need to be made. For instance, what do you do with e? Should
it be rendered in English as e or as ye? Or will you adapt to the cir-
cumstance? Enta usually becomes Yenta in English, but Goldberg
remains Goldberg. What about the silent letter that often follows an
L to indicate that the L is pronounced softly? It is probably more
accurate to include it, but it would not be included in any English
spelling and fouls up any computer search of the list.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Russian-English transliteration #belarus

Herbert Lazerow
 

Recently I received >from Mogilev Jewish community the list (1351 entry) of
local Jews killed in the ghetto.The list is in Russian,I would like to
translate it into English.Can I find a software for transliteration cyrillic
letters into latin letters ?
Is the list printed, or in handwriting? If it is printed, it would
not be terribly time-consuming to transliterate it by hand.
If you have the list in electronic form, you could use a global
search and replace feature of a word processing program.
Either way, you need to decide what equivalent latin letters
to use. Mostly, that is not problematic, but there are some decisions
that need to be made. For instance, what do you do with e? Should
it be rendered in English as e or as ye? Or will you adapt to the cir-
cumstance? Enta usually becomes Yenta in English, but Goldberg
remains Goldberg. What about the silent letter that often follows an
L to indicate that the L is pronounced softly? It is probably more
accurate to include it, but it would not be included in any English
spelling and fouls up any computer search of the list.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA


Mark MILLER Louisville KY #general

rromem <meirromem@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would appreciate any help available for research into the family
origins/descendents of Mark MILLER who lived in Louisville Kentucky around
1924. I have not been able to identify him among many Mark Millers on
Ancestry.com.

"My" Mark Miller was uncle of Amy SHERMAN who came to the USA in 1924.Amy's
parents were >from Vilna. He probably came >from Vilna or Lithuania at least

How accurate are the relationships given on the EIDB ships' manifests? Were
"cousins" and "uncles" truly just that? Any objective information as to the
accuracy?

Thank you,
Ros Romem
Toronto.


Re: Where is "Megibogi?" #general

Galina Chaban <chaban@...>
 

states that the last permanent residence and place of birth for Leiser
Berenberg is "Megibogi." It does state that he is Russian. Does anyone
have any idea what where "Megibogi" is or what name it could refer
too? I've checked Shtetl seeker and my Encarta Atlas for ideas, but none
of the names felt convincing. Any insight would be appreciated.
It may be Medzhibozh.

Galina
------
Galina Chaban
chaban@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mark MILLER Louisville KY #general

rromem <meirromem@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would appreciate any help available for research into the family
origins/descendents of Mark MILLER who lived in Louisville Kentucky around
1924. I have not been able to identify him among many Mark Millers on
Ancestry.com.

"My" Mark Miller was uncle of Amy SHERMAN who came to the USA in 1924.Amy's
parents were >from Vilna. He probably came >from Vilna or Lithuania at least

How accurate are the relationships given on the EIDB ships' manifests? Were
"cousins" and "uncles" truly just that? Any objective information as to the
accuracy?

Thank you,
Ros Romem
Toronto.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is "Megibogi?" #general

Galina Chaban <chaban@...>
 

states that the last permanent residence and place of birth for Leiser
Berenberg is "Megibogi." It does state that he is Russian. Does anyone
have any idea what where "Megibogi" is or what name it could refer
too? I've checked Shtetl seeker and my Encarta Atlas for ideas, but none
of the names felt convincing. Any insight would be appreciated.
It may be Medzhibozh.

Galina
------
Galina Chaban
chaban@...


Re: South Africa Newspaper? #general

3ofus <3ofus@...>
 

Hi Bob,

The most likely newspapers would have been the "Star" and the 'Rand Daily
Mail' (now published as The Mail and the Guardian", both >from Johannesburg.
The other most likely paper would have been in Cape Town, but I don't know
any names. I am sure if you write to the editor of the Star, he will be
happy to give you information and assistance.

Good Luck!

Lyn Green

-----Original Message-----

A friend has found the obit notices for her great grandmother and great
grandfather in The Jewish Chronicle of Manchester, England (1913 & 1914).
There was a notation *South African newspaper please copy.*

Any suggestions as to which S.A. newspaper would copy the obit? Were
there one or two *newspapers of record*for this time period, especially
such papers which would have been read by the Jewish community?


Re: 9/11 Jewish Victims List #general

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

One way would be to submit obituaries which have been published. Does
anyone know if any of the volunteer obituary collection groups (RootsWeb or
whatever)

I checked Special Obituary Collections on the Web
http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/special.htm and found nothing.

A further check shows that the New York Obituary Link Page
< http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/ny.htm > has a page called "Obituaries
of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001" which seems to be put
together by the New York Times
< http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/index_GRIEF.html > These are
arranged, it seems, by the date that they were added to the lists between
September 15th and November 27, 2001. These are called profiles and vary in
content. I checked some profiles of those with Jewish sounding names - some
mentioned religion, most didn't, some gave enough family information to
permit further research, some didn't. I looked through most of the over 60
pages, each with links to 10 to 20 profiles but didn't find the name of
someone whom I knew was on Flight 11. (I have a copy of his obituary >from
the Boston Globe.) This would be a fairly large project.

Just my two cents.

Batya

Lynne Shapiro wrote:

This would be a worthwhile project, to both honor those lost and to in
some small way counter the notion in large segments of the Arab world
that Jews somehow knew of the event in advance and did not go into work
at the World Trade Center that day. But there are already lists of
victims, which of course do not specify religion. How would we know
which of the victims were Jewish? Would it be a list based on
submissions of family members? That would probably not be very complete,
because only a certain segment of the population would submit names.
Also, for the list to be most useful genealogically, it would have to
contain additional information, such as the date of birth and parents'
names of the victims. People might understandably feel reluctant to give
this information to an instantly accessible list, since it could invade
their privacy. Does anyone see a way around these issues?

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.


massacre of Jewish professionals in Czestochowa #general

Samuel Schacher <sms2@...>
 

Hello,

I recently came across citations about the death of Jewish physicians
during a massacre of Jewish professionals in the Czestochowa cemetery
on March 20, 1943. Does anyone have information about this event or
can direct me to where information about this even can be obtained?
Does anyone know who was killed and who were the perpetrators?

Thank you for your response.

Samuel Schacher
New York, NY
EMail sms2@...

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: South Africa Newspaper? #general

3ofus <3ofus@...>
 

Hi Bob,

The most likely newspapers would have been the "Star" and the 'Rand Daily
Mail' (now published as The Mail and the Guardian", both >from Johannesburg.
The other most likely paper would have been in Cape Town, but I don't know
any names. I am sure if you write to the editor of the Star, he will be
happy to give you information and assistance.

Good Luck!

Lyn Green

-----Original Message-----

A friend has found the obit notices for her great grandmother and great
grandfather in The Jewish Chronicle of Manchester, England (1913 & 1914).
There was a notation *South African newspaper please copy.*

Any suggestions as to which S.A. newspaper would copy the obit? Were
there one or two *newspapers of record*for this time period, especially
such papers which would have been read by the Jewish community?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 9/11 Jewish Victims List #general

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

One way would be to submit obituaries which have been published. Does
anyone know if any of the volunteer obituary collection groups (RootsWeb or
whatever)

I checked Special Obituary Collections on the Web
http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/special.htm and found nothing.

A further check shows that the New York Obituary Link Page
< http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/ny.htm > has a page called "Obituaries
of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001" which seems to be put
together by the New York Times
< http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/index_GRIEF.html > These are
arranged, it seems, by the date that they were added to the lists between
September 15th and November 27, 2001. These are called profiles and vary in
content. I checked some profiles of those with Jewish sounding names - some
mentioned religion, most didn't, some gave enough family information to
permit further research, some didn't. I looked through most of the over 60
pages, each with links to 10 to 20 profiles but didn't find the name of
someone whom I knew was on Flight 11. (I have a copy of his obituary >from
the Boston Globe.) This would be a fairly large project.

Just my two cents.

Batya

Lynne Shapiro wrote:

This would be a worthwhile project, to both honor those lost and to in
some small way counter the notion in large segments of the Arab world
that Jews somehow knew of the event in advance and did not go into work
at the World Trade Center that day. But there are already lists of
victims, which of course do not specify religion. How would we know
which of the victims were Jewish? Would it be a list based on
submissions of family members? That would probably not be very complete,
because only a certain segment of the population would submit names.
Also, for the list to be most useful genealogically, it would have to
contain additional information, such as the date of birth and parents'
names of the victims. People might understandably feel reluctant to give
this information to an instantly accessible list, since it could invade
their privacy. Does anyone see a way around these issues?

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen massacre of Jewish professionals in Czestochowa #general

Samuel Schacher <sms2@...>
 

Hello,

I recently came across citations about the death of Jewish physicians
during a massacre of Jewish professionals in the Czestochowa cemetery
on March 20, 1943. Does anyone have information about this event or
can direct me to where information about this even can be obtained?
Does anyone know who was killed and who were the perpetrators?

Thank you for your response.

Samuel Schacher
New York, NY
EMail sms2@...

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