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Is there a Sephardic genealogy Web site or list? #general

Mural Designs <muraldesigns@...>
 

I'd like to find out whether there is a Sephardic Web site or
genealogy. Many of my relatives are >from Greece and Alexandria names:
deSola
Mizrahi
Theodakis
Cordoso
and some >from Rhodes.

I have relatives in Ionina, Greek-speaking Romaniots, but are these
also Sephardic? What would they be classified as if they only spoke
Greek and are not Spanish like the deSolas? I also had relatives in
Aleppo (Tawil), but most are Sephardic >from Greece and Alexandria,
prior to 1889. Is there any special list or site for the Sephardic
or Greek ancestry? They were >from Ionina (Janina).

Annie deSola

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen has an InfoFile about Sephardim at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/sefard5.htm
You can find the Sefard SIG (Special Interest Group) web site at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SefardSIG/
Information about the Sefard Forum discussion group can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SefardSIG/SefardForum.htm

Alexander #general

mpfreed <mpfreed@...>
 

The first name Alexander (usually in the Yiddish form of Sender,
after Alexander the Great, is not an uncommon Jewish first name.
Alexander lived in the 4th century BCE, before the division in the
Jewish world between Ashkenazim and Sephardim, yet, as far as I
know the name is only used by Ashkenazim. Can anyone explain this?

Murray Freedman

Information from Burial Societies #general

MikenHelene <carsonmh@...>
 

I have a question concerning information that can be obtained
from Burial Societies. My grandfather Samuel Jacob Rosen (aka
Sam/John Rose), his mother, (Mary Rosen) and his sister and her
husband (Anna Rosen-Nurock, and Harold Nurock) are buried at Mt
Hebron Cemetery in Flushing NY. They are all buried within the
society grounds of The Manhattan Young Mens Society. The cemetery
was kind enough to give me the n ame and address of the president
of the society, and I was wondering what sort of information, if
any would be obtained >from them.

Thank you
Helene Rose-Carson
carsonmh@...
Crossville, TN
researching Rose/Rosen, Nurock, Schwartz, Goldstein, Ginsberg,
Cohen NYC

Re: Benno: the name #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

bgriffin@... posted as follows:

"I'm wondering what the history of the forename "Benno" is. Is it
a diminutive of Benjamin? Is it specifically Jewish?"

The given name Benno is a German secular name. However it was
used by Jews in Germany during the nineteenth century to the extent
that it was recognized by the rabbis as a valid name for writing in
a Get (Jewish divorce document) as a secular kinui. Furthermore,
German Jews with almost any Hebrew name adopted this German name
as a secular kinui, so that if a Jewish male had the Hebrew name
Shlomo and the secular name Benno, his name would be written in a
Get as "Shlomo hamechune Beno". If his Hebrew name was Binyamin,
his name would be written in a Get as "Binyamin hamechune Beno".
This would of course be written in Hebrew characters, not in Latin
characters.

So, while the name Benno was not specifically a Jewish name, it was
used by German (and Polish and Hungarian) Jews in their contacts
with non-Jews and was formally recognized for this use by the rabbis
who wrote Hilchot Gitin books. The name Benno was not formally
linked to the Hebrew name Binyamin, although it could have been used
by a Jew with that name.

G'mar tov,

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel

Pilnik #general

Moshe Erez <erez3655@...>
 

Dear genners.

Where is Pilnik in 1907 border terms.

Thanks and "Shana Tove and Gmar Hatima Tova"

Moshe Erez

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is there a Sephardic genealogy Web site or list? #general

Mural Designs <muraldesigns@...>
 

I'd like to find out whether there is a Sephardic Web site or
genealogy. Many of my relatives are >from Greece and Alexandria names:
deSola
Mizrahi
Theodakis
Cordoso
and some >from Rhodes.

I have relatives in Ionina, Greek-speaking Romaniots, but are these
also Sephardic? What would they be classified as if they only spoke
Greek and are not Spanish like the deSolas? I also had relatives in
Aleppo (Tawil), but most are Sephardic >from Greece and Alexandria,
prior to 1889. Is there any special list or site for the Sephardic
or Greek ancestry? They were >from Ionina (Janina).

Annie deSola

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen has an InfoFile about Sephardim at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/sefard5.htm
You can find the Sefard SIG (Special Interest Group) web site at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SefardSIG/
Information about the Sefard Forum discussion group can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SefardSIG/SefardForum.htm

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alexander #general

mpfreed <mpfreed@...>
 

The first name Alexander (usually in the Yiddish form of Sender,
after Alexander the Great, is not an uncommon Jewish first name.
Alexander lived in the 4th century BCE, before the division in the
Jewish world between Ashkenazim and Sephardim, yet, as far as I
know the name is only used by Ashkenazim. Can anyone explain this?

Murray Freedman

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information from Burial Societies #general

MikenHelene <carsonmh@...>
 

I have a question concerning information that can be obtained
from Burial Societies. My grandfather Samuel Jacob Rosen (aka
Sam/John Rose), his mother, (Mary Rosen) and his sister and her
husband (Anna Rosen-Nurock, and Harold Nurock) are buried at Mt
Hebron Cemetery in Flushing NY. They are all buried within the
society grounds of The Manhattan Young Mens Society. The cemetery
was kind enough to give me the n ame and address of the president
of the society, and I was wondering what sort of information, if
any would be obtained >from them.

Thank you
Helene Rose-Carson
carsonmh@...
Crossville, TN
researching Rose/Rosen, Nurock, Schwartz, Goldstein, Ginsberg,
Cohen NYC

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Benno: the name #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

bgriffin@... posted as follows:

"I'm wondering what the history of the forename "Benno" is. Is it
a diminutive of Benjamin? Is it specifically Jewish?"

The given name Benno is a German secular name. However it was
used by Jews in Germany during the nineteenth century to the extent
that it was recognized by the rabbis as a valid name for writing in
a Get (Jewish divorce document) as a secular kinui. Furthermore,
German Jews with almost any Hebrew name adopted this German name
as a secular kinui, so that if a Jewish male had the Hebrew name
Shlomo and the secular name Benno, his name would be written in a
Get as "Shlomo hamechune Beno". If his Hebrew name was Binyamin,
his name would be written in a Get as "Binyamin hamechune Beno".
This would of course be written in Hebrew characters, not in Latin
characters.

So, while the name Benno was not specifically a Jewish name, it was
used by German (and Polish and Hungarian) Jews in their contacts
with non-Jews and was formally recognized for this use by the rabbis
who wrote Hilchot Gitin books. The name Benno was not formally
linked to the Hebrew name Binyamin, although it could have been used
by a Jew with that name.

G'mar tov,

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pilnik #general

Moshe Erez <erez3655@...>
 

Dear genners.

Where is Pilnik in 1907 border terms.

Thanks and "Shana Tove and Gmar Hatima Tova"

Moshe Erez

Toronto syllabus #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

To everyone who responded to my inquiry, I thank you. I do now
possess a copy of the syllabus.

Happy New Year,

Joan Breslow
San Marcos, California

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Toronto syllabus #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

To everyone who responded to my inquiry, I thank you. I do now
possess a copy of the syllabus.

Happy New Year,

Joan Breslow
San Marcos, California

Aus. Hung. Verein #general

Curiousyl@...
 

During this Rosh Hashanah holiday, I set the table as always,
placing my Dad's Kiddush cup at my husband's setting. My Dad
passed away in 1977, and my Mom gave me his Kiddush cup. For the
first time since I began researching my Family Tree - I noticed
and read carefully the engraving on one side of the cup:
1st
Aus. Hung. Ferein
presented to
[my parent's names]
A Star of David is engraved on the reverse side.
Am I correct in thinking Ferein is misspelled, and probably should
be Verein, which means "organization" [while Ferein/Ferien means
"holiday"]? Does anyone have knowledge of an organization as
mentioned above?
Thank you.
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Researching: FRUCHT [FURSHMAN] , MELC, DOROGOI - Lithuania: Vilcomir
[Ukmerge], Kovno [Kaunas], Vilna [Vilnius], Moletai. c. 1800-1945;
Paris,France; EHRENPREIS - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine]; Sweden;
AWNER [AVNER] - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine], England; Israel;
NUSINOV/NOUSSINOV - Russia: Jitomir - Volynia guberniya [Zhitomir,
Ukraine]; Buenos Aires, Argentina; LENT/LENTOTCHNIK - Russia: Jitomir
[list truncated at six lines]

Re: Russian-Polish names-- #general

karina holthoff <holthoffk@...>
 

My Great Grand Parents and my grand parents were >from Bialystok
and my grandmother's name was Fanja or Fania too.

It seems to be a common name.

Several days ago I posed a query about Russian-Polish names.
I was looking for the most probable religious *and* secular
names for the following:

All were born in Bialystock region:
... female: called Fania in the US

....Most correspondents suggested Feige for Fania, and I think
it most likely.

Barbara S Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

Re: Current value of $3000 in 1898 #general

Jane Rosen Berenbeim
 

Jim Bennett asked:

My great grandfather Samuel COHN >from Wloclawek and
Pyzdry [both Poland], and later Posen Province, Prussia,
reached New York in 1898, bearing $3000.

What would be the relative value of that sum today
For comparative values, consult the website: www.eh.net "How
Much is That" -- it contains a variety of tools for translating
historical dollar amounts into current ones.

Jane Berenbeim
New York City

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Aus. Hung. Verein #general

Curiousyl@...
 

During this Rosh Hashanah holiday, I set the table as always,
placing my Dad's Kiddush cup at my husband's setting. My Dad
passed away in 1977, and my Mom gave me his Kiddush cup. For the
first time since I began researching my Family Tree - I noticed
and read carefully the engraving on one side of the cup:
1st
Aus. Hung. Ferein
presented to
[my parent's names]
A Star of David is engraved on the reverse side.
Am I correct in thinking Ferein is misspelled, and probably should
be Verein, which means "organization" [while Ferein/Ferien means
"holiday"]? Does anyone have knowledge of an organization as
mentioned above?
Thank you.
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Researching: FRUCHT [FURSHMAN] , MELC, DOROGOI - Lithuania: Vilcomir
[Ukmerge], Kovno [Kaunas], Vilna [Vilnius], Moletai. c. 1800-1945;
Paris,France; EHRENPREIS - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine]; Sweden;
AWNER [AVNER] - Austria: Lemburg [Lviv, Ukraine], England; Israel;
NUSINOV/NOUSSINOV - Russia: Jitomir - Volynia guberniya [Zhitomir,
Ukraine]; Buenos Aires, Argentina; LENT/LENTOTCHNIK - Russia: Jitomir
[list truncated at six lines]

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian-Polish names-- #general

karina holthoff <holthoffk@...>
 

My Great Grand Parents and my grand parents were >from Bialystok
and my grandmother's name was Fanja or Fania too.

It seems to be a common name.

Several days ago I posed a query about Russian-Polish names.
I was looking for the most probable religious *and* secular
names for the following:

All were born in Bialystock region:
... female: called Fania in the US

....Most correspondents suggested Feige for Fania, and I think
it most likely.

Barbara S Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Current value of $3000 in 1898 #general

Jane Rosen Berenbeim
 

Jim Bennett asked:

My great grandfather Samuel COHN >from Wloclawek and
Pyzdry [both Poland], and later Posen Province, Prussia,
reached New York in 1898, bearing $3000.

What would be the relative value of that sum today
For comparative values, consult the website: www.eh.net "How
Much is That" -- it contains a variety of tools for translating
historical dollar amounts into current ones.

Jane Berenbeim
New York City

The town of Chimsk #general

Ron Mosoff <rameb3@...>
 

My grandfather listed the town of Chimsk, Russia on his immigration
documents. I have seen no mention of this town anywhere in the
"Jewishgen" pages. Does anyone have an idea of where this could be?

Sincerely,

Ron Mosoff

Otsar Habanim and Meorei Galicia #general

vze332gh@...
 

I would like to cite Otsar Harabanim and Meorei Galicia in a
Genealogy text that I hope to have published about my family.
If someone has either of these works and could send me the
pertinent info (author, publisher, city, date)I'd appreciate it.

Please respond off line.

Reuben Gross
Reuben.Gross@...