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Re: Posen help, please! #germany

Michael Marx <mhmarx@...>
 

"Mimi Katz" <GeveretK@...> writes:

I'm new to this SIG and would appreciate some direction >from a Posen
researching maven. I've been doing genealogy for a number of years, but
I'm new to researching in Posen. I understand that the LDS has a film of
Jews that were naturalized there in 1834-35. What information can I
expect to find in that film other than a person's name?
There are many LDS films with Jewish records >from various towns in Posen.
You can search their catalog online (www.familysearch.org). There is also a
book "The Natuaralized Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835"
complied by Edward Luft which gives an alphabetical list of Jews by town and
with their occupation. You may be able to find this in a larger public or
university library. I found a copy in the main library at Brandeis.

Michael Marx Lexington, MA, USA email: MHMarx@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Posen help, please! #germany

Michael Marx <mhmarx@...>
 

"Mimi Katz" <GeveretK@...> writes:

I'm new to this SIG and would appreciate some direction >from a Posen
researching maven. I've been doing genealogy for a number of years, but
I'm new to researching in Posen. I understand that the LDS has a film of
Jews that were naturalized there in 1834-35. What information can I
expect to find in that film other than a person's name?
There are many LDS films with Jewish records >from various towns in Posen.
You can search their catalog online (www.familysearch.org). There is also a
book "The Natuaralized Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835"
complied by Edward Luft which gives an alphabetical list of Jews by town and
with their occupation. You may be able to find this in a larger public or
university library. I found a copy in the main library at Brandeis.

Michael Marx Lexington, MA, USA email: MHMarx@...


Re: latvia digest: September 29, 2002 #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

I too would be very interested to read the notes >from the NY conference; it
would be interesting to learn who spoke and what their research areas are. I
hope it is possible to post such a report.


Lisa Newman
Toronto, Canada
Researching
SAMUEL, ZEBBA - Latvia
PINES, ZELDOVICH - Belarus
ROTENBERG - Poland


Quoting Latvia SIG digest <latvia@...>:

LATVIA Digest for Sunday, September 29, 2002.

1. Re: reading and discussion
2. Notes on NY Meeting Riga , Latvia

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Subject: Re: reading and discussion
From: susan hopkins <susanhopkins2002@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Lativa, Rigan in particulars...

I am very much interested in this meeting and I would
love to read some notes >from this meeting.

My Father , at the age of 17,watched my
Grandparents--Arthur Aaron Jacobson and Anna Liebesman
Jacobson, as they were murdered and then buried in a
mass grave in Riga.

I am trying to find an uncle in Riga who was hidden by
a non-Jewish family. My father is dead now after
surviving 3 concentration camps.

It would mean so much to me and my geneological
research to read some notes >from this meeting.

Could some one be so kind as to send me some notes of
the salient features of this meeting?

Sincerely,
Susan Jacobson-Hopkins
Portland, OR

--- Rachel Fisher <rfisher@...> wrote:
Latvia SIGers in the New York area might be
interested in the following
presentation at the Center for Jewish History,
Wednesday October 2 at 7:00
pm. Research in Latvia, in Riga in particular,
will be discussed.
...snip...
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Subject: Notes on NY Meeting Riga , Latvia
From: larry216194116@...
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:30:25 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

I too would be interested in reading the note >from the
October NY Meeting . My grandfather Sameul Sherr
and Great grandfather ,David Sherr were >from
Bauska and Riga , Latvia .
Larry De Witt
Allen, Texas
#62685 Resaearching Sherr , Sher , Scherr ,Bauska
, Riga , New York City , Reading, Pa, Allentown , Pa .



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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: September 29, 2002 #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

I too would be very interested to read the notes >from the NY conference; it
would be interesting to learn who spoke and what their research areas are. I
hope it is possible to post such a report.


Lisa Newman
Toronto, Canada
Researching
SAMUEL, ZEBBA - Latvia
PINES, ZELDOVICH - Belarus
ROTENBERG - Poland


Quoting Latvia SIG digest <latvia@...>:

LATVIA Digest for Sunday, September 29, 2002.

1. Re: reading and discussion
2. Notes on NY Meeting Riga , Latvia

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: reading and discussion
From: susan hopkins <susanhopkins2002@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 21:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Lativa, Rigan in particulars...

I am very much interested in this meeting and I would
love to read some notes >from this meeting.

My Father , at the age of 17,watched my
Grandparents--Arthur Aaron Jacobson and Anna Liebesman
Jacobson, as they were murdered and then buried in a
mass grave in Riga.

I am trying to find an uncle in Riga who was hidden by
a non-Jewish family. My father is dead now after
surviving 3 concentration camps.

It would mean so much to me and my geneological
research to read some notes >from this meeting.

Could some one be so kind as to send me some notes of
the salient features of this meeting?

Sincerely,
Susan Jacobson-Hopkins
Portland, OR

--- Rachel Fisher <rfisher@...> wrote:
Latvia SIGers in the New York area might be
interested in the following
presentation at the Center for Jewish History,
Wednesday October 2 at 7:00
pm. Research in Latvia, in Riga in particular,
will be discussed.
...snip...
-------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Notes on NY Meeting Riga , Latvia
From: larry216194116@...
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:30:25 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

I too would be interested in reading the note >from the
October NY Meeting . My grandfather Sameul Sherr
and Great grandfather ,David Sherr were >from
Bauska and Riga , Latvia .
Larry De Witt
Allen, Texas
#62685 Resaearching Sherr , Sher , Scherr ,Bauska
, Riga , New York City , Reading, Pa, Allentown , Pa .



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Latvia Reading #latvia

larry216194116@...
 

Martha had a great suggestion. I wonder if there are
any Latvians in NYC who read our e-mails and are
attending the meeting ?
Larry De Witt
Allen , Texas , USA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Latvia Reading #latvia

larry216194116@...
 

Martha had a great suggestion. I wonder if there are
any Latvians in NYC who read our e-mails and are
attending the meeting ?
Larry De Witt
Allen , Texas , USA


Helzel #lithuania

Hedzel@...
 

My mother would stuff the skin of the neck of a chicken and sew it with white thread. It was delicious. She told me helzel means neck.

Harriette Hirsch

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The response to Scott's original question has been overwhelming. The question has clearly been answered, and therefore the thread is closed.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Helzel #lithuania

Hedzel@...
 

My mother would stuff the skin of the neck of a chicken and sew it with white thread. It was delicious. She told me helzel means neck.

Harriette Hirsch

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The response to Scott's original question has been overwhelming. The question has clearly been answered, and therefore the thread is closed.


Helzel - delicious but fattening #lithuania

Rica Goldberg
 

I am half Litvak and half Polish and all sides of my family used to make
Helzel. So did I until I stopped using chicken shmaltz 20 years or so ago. Now I use a manufactured imitation chicken fat we can buy in the deli.

My late mother and I and all the people I know grate onion into chicken fat, bind it with flour and either stuff the neck of the chicken or put the stuffing inside a whole chicken or turkey and roast. Delicious. Whereas 25 years ago I used to make this every Friday for Shabbat, once healthier eating became established I only make it for a special occasion like a Yomtov.

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester, England

Still researching:
KAMENSHCHIK >from Yanova and Zeimiai, Lithuania; ESTRY >from Poland
(somewhere); FRIEDMAN >from ?? LEVY >from Sompolno and Krosniewice, Poland; DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia > Manchester; FRANK/DIAMOND >from Garliava, Lithuania; SHLUZITEL/SCHLUCHITEL or SHLESINGER/SHELENGER >from Vabalninkas, Lithuania: BERLINSKI >from Charlottenburg in Berlin >


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Helzel - delicious but fattening #lithuania

Rica Goldberg
 

I am half Litvak and half Polish and all sides of my family used to make
Helzel. So did I until I stopped using chicken shmaltz 20 years or so ago. Now I use a manufactured imitation chicken fat we can buy in the deli.

My late mother and I and all the people I know grate onion into chicken fat, bind it with flour and either stuff the neck of the chicken or put the stuffing inside a whole chicken or turkey and roast. Delicious. Whereas 25 years ago I used to make this every Friday for Shabbat, once healthier eating became established I only make it for a special occasion like a Yomtov.

Rica B Goldberg
Manchester, England

Still researching:
KAMENSHCHIK >from Yanova and Zeimiai, Lithuania; ESTRY >from Poland
(somewhere); FRIEDMAN >from ?? LEVY >from Sompolno and Krosniewice, Poland; DIAMOND >from Kovno Gubernia > Manchester; FRANK/DIAMOND >from Garliava, Lithuania; SHLUZITEL/SCHLUCHITEL or SHLESINGER/SHELENGER >from Vabalninkas, Lithuania: BERLINSKI >from Charlottenburg in Berlin >


Re: "Hezel" #lithuania

Bronstein Family <sygaa@...>
 

from what I understand, the delicacy known as stuffed derma is the same as
kishke and is made >from the intestine. Helzel is made >from the skin from
the point of where the chicken's neck was cut by the shohet down. The skin, after being stuffed, was then sewn up with a needle and thread.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem

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From: Isabelcym@... [mailto:Isabelcym@...]

Some of us, Galitzianers and Litvaks both, know this as stuffed derma.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: "Hezel" #lithuania

Bronstein Family <sygaa@...>
 

from what I understand, the delicacy known as stuffed derma is the same as
kishke and is made >from the intestine. Helzel is made >from the skin from
the point of where the chicken's neck was cut by the shohet down. The skin, after being stuffed, was then sewn up with a needle and thread.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem

-----Original Message-----
From: Isabelcym@... [mailto:Isabelcym@...]

Some of us, Galitzianers and Litvaks both, know this as stuffed derma.


Re: helzel #lithuania

Hildagarde Sanders <hksanders@...>
 

My mother frequently made helzel by stuffing the skin of a chicken neck with a mixture made >from flour, seasonings, and I guess schmalz (not sure about the schmalz). Her mother was >from Neistat (Kudirkos Naumiestis), and her father was >from Sudargas.

Both Jennie Grossinger's "The Art of Jewish Cooking" and Anne London's and Bertha Bishov's "The Complete American-Jewish Cookbook" have recipes for both helzel and kishke right next to each other.

My husband, whose parents had Polish and Galizianer ancestry, does not recall having had helzel.

Hildy Sanders
hksanders@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: helzel #lithuania

Hildagarde Sanders <hksanders@...>
 

My mother frequently made helzel by stuffing the skin of a chicken neck with a mixture made >from flour, seasonings, and I guess schmalz (not sure about the schmalz). Her mother was >from Neistat (Kudirkos Naumiestis), and her father was >from Sudargas.

Both Jennie Grossinger's "The Art of Jewish Cooking" and Anne London's and Bertha Bishov's "The Complete American-Jewish Cookbook" have recipes for both helzel and kishke right next to each other.

My husband, whose parents had Polish and Galizianer ancestry, does not recall having had helzel.

Hildy Sanders
hksanders@...


Photographs for The Galitzianer #galicia

Edward Goldstein <Edward.TheG@...>
 

In past issues of The Galitzianer, we have published a variety of
graphics, including reproductions of postage stamps and photographs
of people.

In future issues we would like, as an experiment, to publish
photographs of people submitted by members of Gesher Galicia and of
this SIG.

Here's what we are looking for:

1. Photographs may be of individuals, couples or groups. We will give
priority to groups and couples.

2. They should have been taken in Galicia prior to the end of the
second World War.

3. To the extent possible, individuals should be identified by name
and there should be a brief biography of each person and his/her
relationship to others in the photograph and/or to the submitter.

4. A statement should accompany each photograph, identifying itand
giving the copyright holder's (if there is one) permission to publish
it.

5. Photographs must be in a common electronic format (JPG, JPEG. GIF,
etc.). We will not accept photos that require scanning. The files
should be provided as attachment to emails that contain biographic
and other explanatory information and valid permission to publish.

6. The editor of The Galitzianer will have final authority to
determine if the photograph will be published.

Feel free to correspond with me before sending a photograph.

Edward Goldstein
Editor, The Galitzianer
Edward.TheG@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Photographs for The Galitzianer #galicia

Edward Goldstein <Edward.TheG@...>
 

In past issues of The Galitzianer, we have published a variety of
graphics, including reproductions of postage stamps and photographs
of people.

In future issues we would like, as an experiment, to publish
photographs of people submitted by members of Gesher Galicia and of
this SIG.

Here's what we are looking for:

1. Photographs may be of individuals, couples or groups. We will give
priority to groups and couples.

2. They should have been taken in Galicia prior to the end of the
second World War.

3. To the extent possible, individuals should be identified by name
and there should be a brief biography of each person and his/her
relationship to others in the photograph and/or to the submitter.

4. A statement should accompany each photograph, identifying itand
giving the copyright holder's (if there is one) permission to publish
it.

5. Photographs must be in a common electronic format (JPG, JPEG. GIF,
etc.). We will not accept photos that require scanning. The files
should be provided as attachment to emails that contain biographic
and other explanatory information and valid permission to publish.

6. The editor of The Galitzianer will have final authority to
determine if the photograph will be published.

Feel free to correspond with me before sending a photograph.

Edward Goldstein
Editor, The Galitzianer
Edward.TheG@...


Ilya Yizkor Book lookup - correction #belarus

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

I inadvertently mistyped my e-mail address in my previous posting regarding
a surname lookup in the Ilya Yizkor book. It should be
trapunsky@....

Sorry about the mistake.

Michael Trapunsky
Queens, NY
trapunsky@...


Re: Schedrin and Vorotyna belarus digest: September 29, 2002 #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/30/02 Scott D. Seligman (heyscott@... wrote:

<<
A researcher who is helping me in Minsk has been consulting Reviskaya
Skaza (Revision Lists) >from the Bobruisk district, and has come on
several of my collateral ancestors who started out in the shtetl of
Parichi and then "transferred to landowners of Vorotnya settlement in
1837." Some of these folks then went on to move >from Vorotnya to
Shchedrin "to the land of Orsha merchant Shneerson."

Parichi and Shchedrin at shtetlach near Bobruisk and exist today. But
I'm stumped by Vorotnya. Does anyone know about it? Or, for that matter,
the history of Shchedrin?
>>

At:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Scadryn/

There is quite a bit about Schedrin to click on at the above site. I did not
click on everything, because I have no special interest, and did not have the
patience today to read about it, but because I like playing with words and
names, I enjoyed seeing the many variant spellings of Schedrin.

Another website:

http://www.sonic.net/~melissk/shchedrin/reunion.html

gives another brief history and there are the names of some people Mr.
Seligman might try to contact for information about Vorotyna.

I found nothing about Vorotyna in any of my reference books or on the
Internet. But Mr. Seligman can look up Orsha and SCHNEERSON at
www.jewishencyclopedia.com



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Ilya Yizkor Book lookup - correction #belarus

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

I inadvertently mistyped my e-mail address in my previous posting regarding
a surname lookup in the Ilya Yizkor book. It should be
trapunsky@....

Sorry about the mistake.

Michael Trapunsky
Queens, NY
trapunsky@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Schedrin and Vorotyna belarus digest: September 29, 2002 #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/30/02 Scott D. Seligman (heyscott@... wrote:

<<
A researcher who is helping me in Minsk has been consulting Reviskaya
Skaza (Revision Lists) >from the Bobruisk district, and has come on
several of my collateral ancestors who started out in the shtetl of
Parichi and then "transferred to landowners of Vorotnya settlement in
1837." Some of these folks then went on to move >from Vorotnya to
Shchedrin "to the land of Orsha merchant Shneerson."

Parichi and Shchedrin at shtetlach near Bobruisk and exist today. But
I'm stumped by Vorotnya. Does anyone know about it? Or, for that matter,
the history of Shchedrin?
>>

At:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Scadryn/

There is quite a bit about Schedrin to click on at the above site. I did not
click on everything, because I have no special interest, and did not have the
patience today to read about it, but because I like playing with words and
names, I enjoyed seeing the many variant spellings of Schedrin.

Another website:

http://www.sonic.net/~melissk/shchedrin/reunion.html

gives another brief history and there are the names of some people Mr.
Seligman might try to contact for information about Vorotyna.

I found nothing about Vorotyna in any of my reference books or on the
Internet. But Mr. Seligman can look up Orsha and SCHNEERSON at
www.jewishencyclopedia.com



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.