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Stephen P. Morse's One-Step to the EIDB is no longer #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

After sending off two notices to many discussion groups
informing them of the new advances on Steve Morse's One-Step
to the EIDB, I must, unfortunately, announce that the site is no
longer functioning. Personally, this is a great blow to me and my
family research as I have been very successful this past year
finding people that I could never find using the NARA soundex
cards and the EIDB website. In fact, I have had such wonderful
success that I no longer use the EIDB but choose to use the
One-Step website because it enabled me to adjust for the many
spelling choices that I would never think of myself.

It appears that Stephen Morse has been forced by the Ellis Island
Foundation to remove the site. Their short-sightedness will be a great
blow to most of the genealogists around the world. Everyday, Steve was
getting thank you e-mails >from people telling him how wonderful
his site was for finding difficult surnames in which spelling correctly
was impossible, for missing manifests, and towns which were spelt so
many different ways they were almost unrecognizable.

If the Ellis Island Foundation had the foresight to have made their
search engine sensitive to soundex and spelling differences, there
would have been no need for Steve's website. It was Steve's own
frustration with trying to find his own family on the EIDB that led him
to build the website in the first place and, then secondly, give it
to all to use.

It seems to me that if the Ellis Island Foundation had incorporated
Steve's website into their own, they would have had a first class search
engine that would enable genealogy buffs to find many more family
members.

Best wishes for a Happy New Year!
Diane Jacobs
New York

Re: Trepman VS Trejbman - your opinion #general

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

I must disagree. I wrote to Ms. Feldman privately before, but TREPMAN and
TREJBMAN could very easily be sound alikes. We don't know >from Ms.
Feldman's letter who did the transcription--whether the ancestor wrote his
or her own name or whether an immigration officer or someone else did. In
which case P and B sound very alike, especially word-medially. E represents
a short vowel in English, but in other writing systems represents a long
vowel and in both cases EJ is a related diphthong so I can certainly see one
being replaced by the other.

While I do agree that not every Soundex match is a good one; this one seems
perfectly plausible.

Teresa Galloway
Department of Linguistics
Cornell University

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susana Leistner Bloch" <bloch@...>
To: "JRI-Poland" <jri-pl@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 3:24 AM
Subject: [jri-pl] Re: Trepman VS Trejbman - your opinion

As far as a surname like TREPMAN, the variations would usually be
TREFMAN,
with a possibility of TREIPMAN or TREIFMAN.
TREJBMAN on the other hand would become TREIBMAN, TREYBMAN.
If it ever became TREPMAN it would be more probable a misspelling than a
"sound alike".

Of course this "true and fast" rule does not always apply but both
surnames
are well known Yiddish surnames and I have never seen them interchanged.

Regards,

Susana

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Stephen P. Morse's One-Step to the EIDB is no longer #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

After sending off two notices to many discussion groups
informing them of the new advances on Steve Morse's One-Step
to the EIDB, I must, unfortunately, announce that the site is no
longer functioning. Personally, this is a great blow to me and my
family research as I have been very successful this past year
finding people that I could never find using the NARA soundex
cards and the EIDB website. In fact, I have had such wonderful
success that I no longer use the EIDB but choose to use the
One-Step website because it enabled me to adjust for the many
spelling choices that I would never think of myself.

It appears that Stephen Morse has been forced by the Ellis Island
Foundation to remove the site. Their short-sightedness will be a great
blow to most of the genealogists around the world. Everyday, Steve was
getting thank you e-mails >from people telling him how wonderful
his site was for finding difficult surnames in which spelling correctly
was impossible, for missing manifests, and towns which were spelt so
many different ways they were almost unrecognizable.

If the Ellis Island Foundation had the foresight to have made their
search engine sensitive to soundex and spelling differences, there
would have been no need for Steve's website. It was Steve's own
frustration with trying to find his own family on the EIDB that led him
to build the website in the first place and, then secondly, give it
to all to use.

It seems to me that if the Ellis Island Foundation had incorporated
Steve's website into their own, they would have had a first class search
engine that would enable genealogy buffs to find many more family
members.

Best wishes for a Happy New Year!
Diane Jacobs
New York

JRI Poland #Poland Re: Trepman VS Trejbman - your opinion #poland

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

I must disagree. I wrote to Ms. Feldman privately before, but TREPMAN and
TREJBMAN could very easily be sound alikes. We don't know >from Ms.
Feldman's letter who did the transcription--whether the ancestor wrote his
or her own name or whether an immigration officer or someone else did. In
which case P and B sound very alike, especially word-medially. E represents
a short vowel in English, but in other writing systems represents a long
vowel and in both cases EJ is a related diphthong so I can certainly see one
being replaced by the other.

While I do agree that not every Soundex match is a good one; this one seems
perfectly plausible.

Teresa Galloway
Department of Linguistics
Cornell University

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susana Leistner Bloch" <bloch@...>
To: "JRI-Poland" <jri-pl@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 3:24 AM
Subject: [jri-pl] Re: Trepman VS Trejbman - your opinion

As far as a surname like TREPMAN, the variations would usually be
TREFMAN,
with a possibility of TREIPMAN or TREIFMAN.
TREJBMAN on the other hand would become TREIBMAN, TREYBMAN.
If it ever became TREPMAN it would be more probable a misspelling than a
"sound alike".

Of course this "true and fast" rule does not always apply but both
surnames
are well known Yiddish surnames and I have never seen them interchanged.

Regards,

Susana

Re: Switzerland to Ukraine? #general

Carol <clingan@...>
 

This is interesting to me, although I can't add any information, because my
gggf in Ukraine had the only surname I haven't been able to find in
Bieber's book--Partoll. And, moreover, everybody I have ever found with
this name comes >from the same place, the Austrian Tyrol. I have never
been able to figure out if he came >from there--and if so, why--or got this
name in another way....

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA

Researching GOROVOTSKY, PINT, PARTOLL, LILOVSKY, Dnepropetrovsk

Original Message in part:
From: Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
Subject: [ukraine] Switzerland to Ukraine?

Has anyone ever heard of families moving >from Switzerland to Ukraine? I
was recently told that my family >from Ukraine moved there from
Switzerland during hard economic times. This would have occurred some
time before the 1840s.

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Switzerland to Ukraine? #ukraine

Carol <clingan@...>
 

This is interesting to me, although I can't add any information, because my
gggf in Ukraine had the only surname I haven't been able to find in
Bieber's book--Partoll. And, moreover, everybody I have ever found with
this name comes >from the same place, the Austrian Tyrol. I have never
been able to figure out if he came >from there--and if so, why--or got this
name in another way....

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA

Researching GOROVOTSKY, PINT, PARTOLL, LILOVSKY, Dnepropetrovsk

Original Message in part:
From: Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
Subject: [ukraine] Switzerland to Ukraine?

Has anyone ever heard of families moving >from Switzerland to Ukraine? I
was recently told that my family >from Ukraine moved there from
Switzerland during hard economic times. This would have occurred some
time before the 1840s.

Re: Kazakhstan #general

Carol <clingan@...>
 

Some of my family were evacuated >from Dnepropetrovsk to what they said was
"Asia" but was in fact Kazakhstan. The ones who stayed in the city were
all killed. The ones who were evacuated came home safely--except for my
great-grandmother, who is buried there someplace.

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA

researching GOROVOTSKY, UMANSKY, LILOVSKY, PINT, PARTOLL from
Dnepropetrovsk

Original message in part:
Subject: Kazakhstan Residents in WW II
From: Marion Diamond (marion5301@...)
I have found a brief document on my mother's 1943 request to the
World Jewish Congress Relief Department, to locate her sister (whose
existence was news to me). The last known address was "Kazachskaya
Aktiubinskaya oblast Martukskij rayon Stantzia Yaysan." A Soviet
immigrant tells me that location was or maybe still is Kazakhstan.

I wondered why this sister would have been living there, since the family
came >from Chernigov gubernia. It never occcurred to me that she might
have been evacuated there, until Mr. Brikman's post stimulated so many
responses.


If anyone has more information about why, when and how people became
located in "the stans" I would be very interested. If there are enough
of us searching, we might in fact eventually form a Western Asia group,
as Joyce Field suggested.

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Kazakhstan #ukraine

Carol <clingan@...>
 

Some of my family were evacuated >from Dnepropetrovsk to what they said was
"Asia" but was in fact Kazakhstan. The ones who stayed in the city were
all killed. The ones who were evacuated came home safely--except for my
great-grandmother, who is buried there someplace.

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA

researching GOROVOTSKY, UMANSKY, LILOVSKY, PINT, PARTOLL from
Dnepropetrovsk

Original message in part:
Subject: Kazakhstan Residents in WW II
From: Marion Diamond (marion5301@...)
I have found a brief document on my mother's 1943 request to the
World Jewish Congress Relief Department, to locate her sister (whose
existence was news to me). The last known address was "Kazachskaya
Aktiubinskaya oblast Martukskij rayon Stantzia Yaysan." A Soviet
immigrant tells me that location was or maybe still is Kazakhstan.

I wondered why this sister would have been living there, since the family
came >from Chernigov gubernia. It never occcurred to me that she might
have been evacuated there, until Mr. Brikman's post stimulated so many
responses.


If anyone has more information about why, when and how people became
located in "the stans" I would be very interested. If there are enough
of us searching, we might in fact eventually form a Western Asia group,
as Joyce Field suggested.

Revisioan List from 1806 #ukraine

Kolker Alexander <kolker_a@...>
 

Hello !

If in Revisioan List >from 1806 jews already recorded with surname ?

Best Regards
Kolker Alexander

ISRAEL ROGENBLAT or LOUIS ISRAEL #ukraine

philafrum
 

9/2/02

Genners,

According to the manifest >from the SS Germanic arriving in NYC on August
15, 1904, p. 170, lines 15 & 16, my great grendfather 'MENDEL SHTEIN"
(actually Pinchas Mendelstein) was headed to a Mr. L(ouis) Israel at 377
E.. 101 St. with an "ISRAEL ROGENBLAT". According to the manifest my
great grandfather was a cousin to this individual, while Mr. Rogenblat was
a brother-in-law. Does anybody have an idea who either ISRAEL ROGENBLAT or
L(OUIS) ISRAEL was?

Please respond to me privately. Thanks. Shanah tovah.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@...
Cherry Hill, NJ

Searching:
MANDELSTEIN/MENDELSTEIN/MENDELSOHN (Starokonstantinov), ADELMAN/EDELMAN
(Krasilov), KALMANOWITZ, LISNITZER (Kamenets Podolskiy, Zaslaw), FISHMAN
(Terespol), UDIN, BURSTEIN, WINARSKY (Kiev), PRESSEISEN

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Revisioan List from 1806 #ukraine

Kolker Alexander <kolker_a@...>
 

Hello !

If in Revisioan List >from 1806 jews already recorded with surname ?

Best Regards
Kolker Alexander

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine ISRAEL ROGENBLAT or LOUIS ISRAEL #ukraine

philafrum
 

9/2/02

Genners,

According to the manifest >from the SS Germanic arriving in NYC on August
15, 1904, p. 170, lines 15 & 16, my great grendfather 'MENDEL SHTEIN"
(actually Pinchas Mendelstein) was headed to a Mr. L(ouis) Israel at 377
E.. 101 St. with an "ISRAEL ROGENBLAT". According to the manifest my
great grandfather was a cousin to this individual, while Mr. Rogenblat was
a brother-in-law. Does anybody have an idea who either ISRAEL ROGENBLAT or
L(OUIS) ISRAEL was?

Please respond to me privately. Thanks. Shanah tovah.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@...
Cherry Hill, NJ

Searching:
MANDELSTEIN/MENDELSTEIN/MENDELSOHN (Starokonstantinov), ADELMAN/EDELMAN
(Krasilov), KALMANOWITZ, LISNITZER (Kamenets Podolskiy, Zaslaw), FISHMAN
(Terespol), UDIN, BURSTEIN, WINARSKY (Kiev), PRESSEISEN

What is new this month at the Belarus SIG #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Shtetls of Belarus has been enhanced to have links >from each shtetl to
the Jewish Encyclopedia website. In addition, over the last few months, the
following web pages have been added to the SIG website
(www.jewishgen.org/belarus)

- Grodno Jewish Vital Records and FHL Film Numbers, contributed by David Fox

- Accessing Landsmanshaften Records at YIVO, by Jerry Seligsohn and Edward
Rosenbaum

-1960-1975 Chasnich-Bieshenkowitz Society Membership Dues Lists, contributed
by Jerry Seligsohn

- How to use the Belarus SIG website to find your Belorussian ancestors and
their shtetls, by Edward Rosenbaum

- Vileika Aid Society of Lynn Massachusetts and nearby communities,
contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Volkovysk Associations, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Congregation Ahavoth Zedek Anshei Timkowitz, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

- Uller Benevolent Association, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Swislotcher Brotherhood Association Burial Permits, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

- 1937 Swislotcher Brotherhood Association Membership List, contributed by
Jerry Seligsohn

- Stoliner Progressive Society, by Jerry Seligsohn

- United Smolevitzer Association - Membership Dues 1948-1972, contributed by
Jerry Seligsohn

- Skidler Benevolent Society, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- August 7, 1942 list of Novogrudok victims, contributed by Henryk Limon

- Schklover Benevolent Society Membership Biography, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

-Inventory of certain files (mainly Slutsk and Novogrudok uyezds) in the
National Historical Archives of Belarus (NHAB)in Minsk, by Neville Lamdan

- Research report - National Historical Archives of Belarus in Minsk, by
Neville Lamdan

-Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
Webmaster of the AGAD portion of JRI-Poland
(http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...
url: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/4900/

Researching
AARONSON (Russia), BELLER (Slonim, Belarus), BUDNA/BUDNE (Brok and Ostrow
Maz Poland), GRUNDFAST (Belarus), HOFFMAN/OFMAN, (Brok and Ostrow
Mazowiecka Poland), KRIEGEL, MONKA (Przasnysz, Poland), NOVAK (Makow,
Poland), ROSENBAUM (Svezhkovtse and Khmeleva, Galicia), ROSOFF, ROTTENBERG
(Galicia), SHATZ/SHISHATZKY/SZYSZACKI (Lunna and Porozovo, Belarus),
SILVERBLATT, YOSKOWITZ (Wyshkow, Poland)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What is new this month at the Belarus SIG #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Shtetls of Belarus has been enhanced to have links >from each shtetl to
the Jewish Encyclopedia website. In addition, over the last few months, the
following web pages have been added to the SIG website
(www.jewishgen.org/belarus)

- Grodno Jewish Vital Records and FHL Film Numbers, contributed by David Fox

- Accessing Landsmanshaften Records at YIVO, by Jerry Seligsohn and Edward
Rosenbaum

-1960-1975 Chasnich-Bieshenkowitz Society Membership Dues Lists, contributed
by Jerry Seligsohn

- How to use the Belarus SIG website to find your Belorussian ancestors and
their shtetls, by Edward Rosenbaum

- Vileika Aid Society of Lynn Massachusetts and nearby communities,
contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Volkovysk Associations, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Congregation Ahavoth Zedek Anshei Timkowitz, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

- Uller Benevolent Association, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- Swislotcher Brotherhood Association Burial Permits, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

- 1937 Swislotcher Brotherhood Association Membership List, contributed by
Jerry Seligsohn

- Stoliner Progressive Society, by Jerry Seligsohn

- United Smolevitzer Association - Membership Dues 1948-1972, contributed by
Jerry Seligsohn

- Skidler Benevolent Society, contributed by Jerry Seligsohn

- August 7, 1942 list of Novogrudok victims, contributed by Henryk Limon

- Schklover Benevolent Society Membership Biography, contributed by Jerry
Seligsohn

-Inventory of certain files (mainly Slutsk and Novogrudok uyezds) in the
National Historical Archives of Belarus (NHAB)in Minsk, by Neville Lamdan

- Research report - National Historical Archives of Belarus in Minsk, by
Neville Lamdan

-Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
Webmaster of the AGAD portion of JRI-Poland
(http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...
url: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/4900/

Researching
AARONSON (Russia), BELLER (Slonim, Belarus), BUDNA/BUDNE (Brok and Ostrow
Maz Poland), GRUNDFAST (Belarus), HOFFMAN/OFMAN, (Brok and Ostrow
Mazowiecka Poland), KRIEGEL, MONKA (Przasnysz, Poland), NOVAK (Makow,
Poland), ROSENBAUM (Svezhkovtse and Khmeleva, Galicia), ROSOFF, ROTTENBERG
(Galicia), SHATZ/SHISHATZKY/SZYSZACKI (Lunna and Porozovo, Belarus),
SILVERBLATT, YOSKOWITZ (Wyshkow, Poland)

September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, Sept. 9, 2002
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
***
Speaker: Dr. Robert J. Plowman
Topic: Genealogical Resources at the Mid-Atlantic branch of
the National Archives (National Archives and Records Admin.)
***

Dr. Plowman will discuss information available to the genealogical
researcher at the NARA facility in Philadelphia including: the census,
passenger lists and naturalizations at the Circuit and District courts
in Philadelphia. He will also describe other information housed at the
regional office in Philadelphia.

Dr. Plowman is the Assistant Regional Administrator of the
Mid-Atlantic Regional Office of NARA located at 9th and Chestnut
Streets in Philadelphia. He received his BA and MA degrees in
History >from Villanova University and a Ph.D. at Catholic University of
America. He currently teaches courses in American History at
Villanova University.
***
For New Members
Come to the meeting 30 minutes early and hear more
experienced member of our group give advice and
counsel on issues that perplex you.
***
Russian Special Interest Group (RIG): The first two meeting dates
tentatively scheduled for Sunday, Oct. 20th and Sunday, Dec.1st at
1:30 p.m. at the Klein Branch JCC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.
First speaker: Fred Blum will discuss his recent trip to Ukraine.
***
German Special Interest Group: First meeting of the fall will take
place Sept. 29th at 3 p.m. For address, please check the JGSGP
website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
***
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSGP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
***
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
***

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@...>

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

September Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, Sept. 9, 2002
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA
***
Speaker: Dr. Robert J. Plowman
Topic: Genealogical Resources at the Mid-Atlantic branch of
the National Archives (National Archives and Records Admin.)
***

Dr. Plowman will discuss information available to the genealogical
researcher at the NARA facility in Philadelphia including: the census,
passenger lists and naturalizations at the Circuit and District courts
in Philadelphia. He will also describe other information housed at the
regional office in Philadelphia.

Dr. Plowman is the Assistant Regional Administrator of the
Mid-Atlantic Regional Office of NARA located at 9th and Chestnut
Streets in Philadelphia. He received his BA and MA degrees in
History >from Villanova University and a Ph.D. at Catholic University of
America. He currently teaches courses in American History at
Villanova University.
***
For New Members
Come to the meeting 30 minutes early and hear more
experienced member of our group give advice and
counsel on issues that perplex you.
***
Russian Special Interest Group (RIG): The first two meeting dates
tentatively scheduled for Sunday, Oct. 20th and Sunday, Dec.1st at
1:30 p.m. at the Klein Branch JCC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.
First speaker: Fred Blum will discuss his recent trip to Ukraine.
***
German Special Interest Group: First meeting of the fall will take
place Sept. 29th at 3 p.m. For address, please check the JGSGP
website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
***
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSGP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
***
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
***

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@...>

Re: SAMA, MANO #hungary

MGS18@...
 

I have also found occurrences of Soma, Samu, and Sama on documents of an
ancestor who was also known as Samuel.

I have also seen Mano used for Emanuel.

Perhaps carrier refers to a porter.

Mindy

From: pj.posthumus@... (Posthumus, Paul)
Reply-to: pj.posthumus@... (Posthumus, Paul)
To: h-sig@... (Hungarian SIG)
Dear fellow-H-siggers,

I found two children by the names of SAMA and MANO. Would that be girls or
boys?

I found the word "carrier" in some documents, what does it mean?

Paul, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
pj.posthumus@...

Moderator VK: "Sama" is probably Soma, which is a Hungarian version of
Cornelius. Could also be Samu, short for Samuel.Mano is also a masculine name. Might be a nickname for
Emanuel. Does anyone know? Did you find the word "carrier" in English
language documents? What type of documents?

Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: SAMA, MANO #hungary

MGS18@...
 

I have also found occurrences of Soma, Samu, and Sama on documents of an
ancestor who was also known as Samuel.

I have also seen Mano used for Emanuel.

Perhaps carrier refers to a porter.

Mindy

From: pj.posthumus@... (Posthumus, Paul)
Reply-to: pj.posthumus@... (Posthumus, Paul)
To: h-sig@... (Hungarian SIG)
Dear fellow-H-siggers,

I found two children by the names of SAMA and MANO. Would that be girls or
boys?

I found the word "carrier" in some documents, what does it mean?

Paul, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
pj.posthumus@...

Moderator VK: "Sama" is probably Soma, which is a Hungarian version of
Cornelius. Could also be Samu, short for Samuel.Mano is also a masculine name. Might be a nickname for
Emanuel. Does anyone know? Did you find the word "carrier" in English
language documents? What type of documents?

Re: identifying town name #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Vivian is probably right. Szeklencza (aka Sekernice) had a Jewish
population of 685 out of 3677 total residents in 1941. Sefer
Marmaros has a two-page article about the town.

Another possibility might be Szeleslonka, which is located slightly
further to the northeast. Both are in the general area of Chust in the
Transcarpathian area.

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

I need some help in interpretting a town name found on the Ellis
Island Arrival Record.

The town looks like "Szeklenza" or "Szekleuze". The records listing
that town are for a Mozes Tambor who arrived in 1908 and a Sapsze
Schapsovics who arrived in 1909. I suspect this town is in the
Transcarpathian area. Thanks for your help.

Adam Smith
New York, NY

Searching: TAMBOR, SAPSOWITZ, GOLDENBERG, WEIZTNER: Khust area

Moderator VK: You're probably looking for Szeklencze, also known
as Szokirna and Szokirnicza. It was in Huszt jaras (district) of
Maramaros megye. The 1877 Gazetteer reports that there were 378
Jewish residents who worshipped in Munkacs.

Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: identifying town name #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Vivian is probably right. Szeklencza (aka Sekernice) had a Jewish
population of 685 out of 3677 total residents in 1941. Sefer
Marmaros has a two-page article about the town.

Another possibility might be Szeleslonka, which is located slightly
further to the northeast. Both are in the general area of Chust in the
Transcarpathian area.

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

I need some help in interpretting a town name found on the Ellis
Island Arrival Record.

The town looks like "Szeklenza" or "Szekleuze". The records listing
that town are for a Mozes Tambor who arrived in 1908 and a Sapsze
Schapsovics who arrived in 1909. I suspect this town is in the
Transcarpathian area. Thanks for your help.

Adam Smith
New York, NY

Searching: TAMBOR, SAPSOWITZ, GOLDENBERG, WEIZTNER: Khust area

Moderator VK: You're probably looking for Szeklencze, also known
as Szokirna and Szokirnicza. It was in Huszt jaras (district) of
Maramaros megye. The 1877 Gazetteer reports that there were 378
Jewish residents who worshipped in Munkacs.