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Cemetery team battles elements to record Czech Jewish ancestors #hungary

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Cemetery team battles elements to record Czech Jewish ancestors

By Pavla Kozakova

PRAGUE, Oct. 2 (JTA) -- A man planning to convert to Judaism has launched
an Internet site to help people all over the world track their Czech
Jewish ancestry.

As part of this effort, Jaroslav Achab Haidler has combed dozens of
Jewish cemeteries in the Czech regions of Bohemia and Moravia in order to
compile a complete record of burial sites.

Initially, the names of about 800 deceased >from several cemeteries have
been listed on his Web site, www.chewra.com, along with photographs of
their gravestones and details of their Hebrew epitaphs.

The Web site, which was launched this week to coincide with Simchat
Torah, is currently available only in Czech. But Haidler said an English
version should be available before the end of the year.

Haidler, a theater director, intends in time to visit all of the
country's estimated 340 cemeteries to ensure a record is kept before the
information is lost forever through the ravages of time and vandals.

For complete article see:

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead==Web+site+lists+Czech+Jewi
sh+ancestors&intcategoryid==5


E. Randol Schoenberg
randols@...
http://www.schoenberglaw.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Cemetery team battles elements to record Czech Jewish ancestors #hungary

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Cemetery team battles elements to record Czech Jewish ancestors

By Pavla Kozakova

PRAGUE, Oct. 2 (JTA) -- A man planning to convert to Judaism has launched
an Internet site to help people all over the world track their Czech
Jewish ancestry.

As part of this effort, Jaroslav Achab Haidler has combed dozens of
Jewish cemeteries in the Czech regions of Bohemia and Moravia in order to
compile a complete record of burial sites.

Initially, the names of about 800 deceased >from several cemeteries have
been listed on his Web site, www.chewra.com, along with photographs of
their gravestones and details of their Hebrew epitaphs.

The Web site, which was launched this week to coincide with Simchat
Torah, is currently available only in Czech. But Haidler said an English
version should be available before the end of the year.

Haidler, a theater director, intends in time to visit all of the
country's estimated 340 cemeteries to ensure a record is kept before the
information is lost forever through the ravages of time and vandals.

For complete article see:

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead==Web+site+lists+Czech+Jewi
sh+ancestors&intcategoryid==5


E. Randol Schoenberg
randols@...
http://www.schoenberglaw.com


HIUH, the Hebrew Institute of University Heigts (Bronx NY) #hungary

ewilson4@...
 

Dear List:

My parents (Nicholas WINKLER and Esther ROSENBLATT) belonged to HIUH, the
Hebrew Institute of University Heights in the Bronx, NY >from the late 1920s
till the 1960s.

Would anyone else have any memory of HIUH or this WINKLER/ROSENBLATT family?

Thank you,

Doris Wilson

Rochester NY


Re: Szilagy (and other excluded counties) #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Tom,
Szilagy you found under FHL 623977 is a town in the county of Baranya.
Aaron Slotnik was inquiring about the county of Szilagy >from the 1828 Tax
Census. This county and 18 others of the former Hungarian Empire were not
published by FHL under the title of "Vagyonosszeiras, 1828". Perhaps, FHL
has a more recent update than August, 2001 for the on-line catalogue.

Sixteen of the missing counties are clustered in the southeast corner of
the Hungarian Empire. They are Also-Feher, Beszterce-Naszod, Brasso, Csik,
Fogaras, Haromszek, Hunyad, Kis-Kukullo, Kolozs, Maros-Torda, Nagy-Kukullo,
Szeben, Szilagy, Szolnok-Doboka, Torda-Aranyos, and Udvarhely. Is it
possible that these counties were not part of the Hungarian Empire or were
not included in the 1828 Census?

The remaining three counties are Hajdu near the center of the country and
Modrus-Fiume (aka Modrus-Rijeka) and Lika-Krbava, both being in the extreme
southwest tip of old Hungary.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

From: Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
Aaron,
LDS film number 0622977 contains Szilagy. If you wish to see a very
good map of that county in 1910, visit
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/szilagy.jpg
Tom
______ Aaron Slotnik wrote on 10/1/02 - 9:01 PM -0500: ______
Hi Tom,

Thanks for writing. I knew the Romanian place names and locations.
I was referring specifically to the counties as they were in 1828.
Are you saying Szilagy definitely existed in 1828? Maybe I missed
something on the census website?

Aaron


Hungary SIG #Hungary HIUH, the Hebrew Institute of University Heigts (Bronx NY) #hungary

ewilson4@...
 

Dear List:

My parents (Nicholas WINKLER and Esther ROSENBLATT) belonged to HIUH, the
Hebrew Institute of University Heights in the Bronx, NY >from the late 1920s
till the 1960s.

Would anyone else have any memory of HIUH or this WINKLER/ROSENBLATT family?

Thank you,

Doris Wilson

Rochester NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Szilagy (and other excluded counties) #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Tom,
Szilagy you found under FHL 623977 is a town in the county of Baranya.
Aaron Slotnik was inquiring about the county of Szilagy >from the 1828 Tax
Census. This county and 18 others of the former Hungarian Empire were not
published by FHL under the title of "Vagyonosszeiras, 1828". Perhaps, FHL
has a more recent update than August, 2001 for the on-line catalogue.

Sixteen of the missing counties are clustered in the southeast corner of
the Hungarian Empire. They are Also-Feher, Beszterce-Naszod, Brasso, Csik,
Fogaras, Haromszek, Hunyad, Kis-Kukullo, Kolozs, Maros-Torda, Nagy-Kukullo,
Szeben, Szilagy, Szolnok-Doboka, Torda-Aranyos, and Udvarhely. Is it
possible that these counties were not part of the Hungarian Empire or were
not included in the 1828 Census?

The remaining three counties are Hajdu near the center of the country and
Modrus-Fiume (aka Modrus-Rijeka) and Lika-Krbava, both being in the extreme
southwest tip of old Hungary.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

From: Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
Aaron,
LDS film number 0622977 contains Szilagy. If you wish to see a very
good map of that county in 1910, visit
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/szilagy.jpg
Tom
______ Aaron Slotnik wrote on 10/1/02 - 9:01 PM -0500: ______
Hi Tom,

Thanks for writing. I knew the Romanian place names and locations.
I was referring specifically to the counties as they were in 1828.
Are you saying Szilagy definitely existed in 1828? Maybe I missed
something on the census website?

Aaron


Re: Hungarian digest October 04 #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

Re: books, Jewish Community Kosice, etc. ( Tom Venetianer posting ).

I had close relatives in Bratislava and Kosice and they all perished
in the Holocaust ( nearly my whole family ). But what is more to the
point is that I don't know Czech nor Croatian and my Hungarian is
nearly non-existent, but in spite of it I research archives in
the Czech Rn Hungary and in Croatia.

Tsvi Sinai
Givatayim, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian digest October 04 #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

Re: books, Jewish Community Kosice, etc. ( Tom Venetianer posting ).

I had close relatives in Bratislava and Kosice and they all perished
in the Holocaust ( nearly my whole family ). But what is more to the
point is that I don't know Czech nor Croatian and my Hungarian is
nearly non-existent, but in spite of it I research archives in
the Czech Rn Hungary and in Croatia.

Tsvi Sinai
Givatayim, Israel


Re: * Re: Szilagy #hungary

Aaron Slotnik
 

All,

Please note that this reference is for the town of Szilagy in Baranya
county, rather than the county of Szilagy. It appears that the
Transylvanian counties were either not microfilmed by the Mormons or were
not included in the 1828 Census at all. If they weren't filmed by the
Mormons, the originals would still be accessible in the Hungarian National
Archives. Can anyone confirm whether Transylvania was included in the
census? What confuses me is that I thought Maramaros and Szatmar were part
of Transylvania, yet they are microfilmed.

Thanks,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

ModeratorVK: You will not find Transylvania listed in the FHL catalog among the places for which 1828 Property Census records were filmed. Transylvania, was not a county but rather a region, as well as a province of Romania, that included, more than 15 counties. According to Randolph Braham following the end of WWI, when Hungary ceded this area to Romania, the Jewish population of Transylvania was about 200,000 . The counties included in this territory included Szilagy, Maramaros, Szatmar, Bihar, Csik, Kolozs, and Haromszek, among others.


[rom-sig] free virus software #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

If you are not a ROM-SIG subscriber you may not have this helpful
info about the availability of tools to detect and remove some of the
worst viruses.

I believe that these only work (and are only necessary) if you
operate an MS-DOS system.



Hello everyone,

I have read the recent messages regarding viruses. Software maker
Symantec, maker of Norton Anti-Virus, makes available a number of free
tools that will detect and remove some of the most notorious viruses
from your computer. These tools are available for free >from the Symantec
web site at http://securityresponse.symantec.com/. Look for the section
titled "Removal Tools" This site will also tell you about the most
recent and most serious virus outbreaks.

The most recent problem appears to be the Bugbear virus. In the past few
days I have received 7 messages with this virus attached.

I hope that everyone will take the opportunity and make some time to
download some of these free tools and scan for viruses on a periodic
basis. While they are not nearly as good as running a full virus
scanning package these tools will locate and destroy specific viruses on
your computer.

Andrew Blumberg

MODERATOR NOTE: While these messages are not on topic they are
extremely important. It costs JewishGen megabucks to keep Lyris
virus free! Another reason to donate!


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * Re: Szilagy #hungary

Aaron Slotnik
 

All,

Please note that this reference is for the town of Szilagy in Baranya
county, rather than the county of Szilagy. It appears that the
Transylvanian counties were either not microfilmed by the Mormons or were
not included in the 1828 Census at all. If they weren't filmed by the
Mormons, the originals would still be accessible in the Hungarian National
Archives. Can anyone confirm whether Transylvania was included in the
census? What confuses me is that I thought Maramaros and Szatmar were part
of Transylvania, yet they are microfilmed.

Thanks,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

ModeratorVK: You will not find Transylvania listed in the FHL catalog among the places for which 1828 Property Census records were filmed. Transylvania, was not a county but rather a region, as well as a province of Romania, that included, more than 15 counties. According to Randolph Braham following the end of WWI, when Hungary ceded this area to Romania, the Jewish population of Transylvania was about 200,000 . The counties included in this territory included Szilagy, Maramaros, Szatmar, Bihar, Csik, Kolozs, and Haromszek, among others.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fwd: [rom-sig] free virus software #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

If you are not a ROM-SIG subscriber you may not have this helpful
info about the availability of tools to detect and remove some of the
worst viruses.

I believe that these only work (and are only necessary) if you
operate an MS-DOS system.



Hello everyone,

I have read the recent messages regarding viruses. Software maker
Symantec, maker of Norton Anti-Virus, makes available a number of free
tools that will detect and remove some of the most notorious viruses
from your computer. These tools are available for free >from the Symantec
web site at http://securityresponse.symantec.com/. Look for the section
titled "Removal Tools" This site will also tell you about the most
recent and most serious virus outbreaks.

The most recent problem appears to be the Bugbear virus. In the past few
days I have received 7 messages with this virus attached.

I hope that everyone will take the opportunity and make some time to
download some of these free tools and scan for viruses on a periodic
basis. While they are not nearly as good as running a full virus
scanning package these tools will locate and destroy specific viruses on
your computer.

Andrew Blumberg

MODERATOR NOTE: While these messages are not on topic they are
extremely important. It costs JewishGen megabucks to keep Lyris
virus free! Another reason to donate!


Living Uncle and Nephew - Same Name #galicia

Lancy
 

When his son was born, Chaim called him Meyer Mordko. Meyer was
his living brother and Mordko was his deceased brother. Chaim's
father was the Sandak at the circumcision, meaning that he
endorsed the choice of name.

Have you ever come across a person who gave his son the name of
his living brother?

The area is Eastern Galicia.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

Searching: PRESSER / ZIMMERMAN / KATZ - Eastern Galicia
SPALTER & GRUNHUT - Western Galicia
GUTMAN/SLAVNY/MITZMACHER/JOSKOWICZ - Opatow,
Poland
KANAREK / FINGERIT / NUDEL - Sandomierz, Poland
GULIAK & RAVITZKY - Dubesar, Moldova
HOLTZMAN & BORUCHIN - Pinsk, Belarus


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Living Uncle and Nephew - Same Name #galicia

Lancy
 

When his son was born, Chaim called him Meyer Mordko. Meyer was
his living brother and Mordko was his deceased brother. Chaim's
father was the Sandak at the circumcision, meaning that he
endorsed the choice of name.

Have you ever come across a person who gave his son the name of
his living brother?

The area is Eastern Galicia.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

Searching: PRESSER / ZIMMERMAN / KATZ - Eastern Galicia
SPALTER & GRUNHUT - Western Galicia
GUTMAN/SLAVNY/MITZMACHER/JOSKOWICZ - Opatow,
Poland
KANAREK / FINGERIT / NUDEL - Sandomierz, Poland
GULIAK & RAVITZKY - Dubesar, Moldova
HOLTZMAN & BORUCHIN - Pinsk, Belarus


Re: Significance of Maspeth, Long Island, NY #general

Scanner <scanner_1998@...>
 

Thanks to all who replied to this query!

Apparently, there *was* a sizeable Jewish community in Maspeth working
either in meat packing or some of the other industries there, and it would
have been a *destination* for immigrants.

Shel Bercovich,
Calgary, Canada

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVITZ -Darabani, Dorohoi, Havirna &
Stefanesti, Romania;
MOSCOVITZ - Israel
ECHTER - Tulchin, Balta, & Krivoye Ozero, Ukraine
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; USA
ZWANG - Argentina; Israel; Ukraine; USA

--- Scanner <scanner_1998@...> wrote:
Hi Genners,

We have several EIDB records in which the passengers were headed for
Maspeth, Long Island, NY. I see lots of references in the JG Archives to
cemeteries and burials in Maspeth, but just wondering if it had any
other significance at the turn of the 20th c.?


FENSTER from Connecticut #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Is there anyone out there connected to FENSTERs >from Connecticut or who
can help me find if any of them (there are thirty on switchboard.com) are
connected to a GORDON family?

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: Gedaliah, Gute Leib #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

*Gedaliah must have taken an American first name, as I can't find any
Gedaliah Meltzers in the 1900-1930 census indexes. The jewishgen.org
Lithuanian names database says the equivalents could be Charles, Daniel,
George, Gustav, Jacob, Julius, and Harry - are there any other names a
Gedaliah may have used?*

Anybody could use any name they liked, so yes, Gedaliah could have become
Arnold, Henry, Zebediah, or any other name (A to Z). There is no way to
limit the possibilities.

Same for Gute Leib-he could call himself anything he wanted in the US.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Significance of Maspeth, Long Island, NY #general

Scanner <scanner_1998@...>
 

Thanks to all who replied to this query!

Apparently, there *was* a sizeable Jewish community in Maspeth working
either in meat packing or some of the other industries there, and it would
have been a *destination* for immigrants.

Shel Bercovich,
Calgary, Canada

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVITZ -Darabani, Dorohoi, Havirna &
Stefanesti, Romania;
MOSCOVITZ - Israel
ECHTER - Tulchin, Balta, & Krivoye Ozero, Ukraine
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; USA
ZWANG - Argentina; Israel; Ukraine; USA

--- Scanner <scanner_1998@...> wrote:
Hi Genners,

We have several EIDB records in which the passengers were headed for
Maspeth, Long Island, NY. I see lots of references in the JG Archives to
cemeteries and burials in Maspeth, but just wondering if it had any
other significance at the turn of the 20th c.?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FENSTER from Connecticut #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Is there anyone out there connected to FENSTERs >from Connecticut or who
can help me find if any of them (there are thirty on switchboard.com) are
connected to a GORDON family?

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gedaliah, Gute Leib #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

*Gedaliah must have taken an American first name, as I can't find any
Gedaliah Meltzers in the 1900-1930 census indexes. The jewishgen.org
Lithuanian names database says the equivalents could be Charles, Daniel,
George, Gustav, Jacob, Julius, and Harry - are there any other names a
Gedaliah may have used?*

Anybody could use any name they liked, so yes, Gedaliah could have become
Arnold, Henry, Zebediah, or any other name (A to Z). There is no way to
limit the possibilities.

Same for Gute Leib-he could call himself anything he wanted in the US.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY