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Re: Orbach- Gishen Search in Australia #southafrica

David Crook <CROOKFAMILY@...>
 

Rabbi Philip Heilbrunn of St Kilda Synagogue in Melbourne, Australia, is
married to Pnina Orbach. He frequently answers questions on the ravsig
website of jewishgen, and I am sure they would be able to help in some way
in your Orbach search.

Reverend David Crook,
Chicago.

----- Original Message -----
From: Allen & Dinah Katz <aldikat@...>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: [safrica] Orbach- Gishen Search in Australia


Looking for ORBACH and GISHEN in Melbourne, Australia: Malla nee GISHEN
married Someone ORBACH. Malla (Malka) was the daughter of
Beryl(Dov)-Hershel
and Reizel GISHEN, and sister to Baruch and Moshe, who all perished in the
Shoah.
Can anyone help?
Allen Katz
Raanana Israel

South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Orbach- Gishen Search in Australia #southafrica

David Crook <CROOKFAMILY@...>
 

Rabbi Philip Heilbrunn of St Kilda Synagogue in Melbourne, Australia, is
married to Pnina Orbach. He frequently answers questions on the ravsig
website of jewishgen, and I am sure they would be able to help in some way
in your Orbach search.

Reverend David Crook,
Chicago.

----- Original Message -----
From: Allen & Dinah Katz <aldikat@...>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: [safrica] Orbach- Gishen Search in Australia


Looking for ORBACH and GISHEN in Melbourne, Australia: Malla nee GISHEN
married Someone ORBACH. Malla (Malka) was the daughter of
Beryl(Dov)-Hershel
and Reizel GISHEN, and sister to Baruch and Moshe, who all perished in the
Shoah.
Can anyone help?
Allen Katz
Raanana Israel

Re: Berkovitz Re: Hidden info on documents, Part II #hungary

L. <alethea@...>
 

I am still looking for the origin of the name. However I did find
these variations of the spelling: Berkovitz, Berkowitz, Berkovitch,
Berkovitcz, Bercovitz , Bercovici, Bercu, , Bercovitcz , Berogivich ,
Bierkowicz , Borkovich, Borukhovich, Brokovitz , Perkovicz.

Sincerely,

Lara Clark
Houston, Texas

shel wrote:
We have a Herman Bercovitz in our tree. He lived came to the US

and settled in St. Paul in 1900 and then moved to Los Angeles.
I believe he was >from Romania and his name was Bercovici.

More accurately he may have come >from Bukovina
which was included at one time in Galicia
and now is part of Romania and Ukraine.

He married my great aunt Tina Brucker, also >from Romania.

I wonder if Bercovitz and Berkovitz derive >from the same name,
Bercovici or are completely different names.

Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@...
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net
Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz & Bukowina,
Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary and St.
Paul MN ,BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz, Poland and St. Paul,
MN, BERCOVITZ (BERCOVICI) in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
BRUCKER, WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary
SEGALOVE/SOKOLVSKY >from Ternovka, Ukraine
mailto:shel@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Berkovitz Re: Hidden info on documents, Part II #general

L. <alethea@...>
 

I am still looking for the origin of the name. However I did find
these variations of the spelling: Berkovitz, Berkowitz, Berkovitch,
Berkovitcz, Bercovitz , Bercovici, Bercu, , Bercovitcz , Berogivich ,
Bierkowicz , Borkovich, Borukhovich, Brokovitz , Perkovicz.

Sincerely,

Lara Clark
Houston, Texas

shel wrote:
We have a Herman Bercovitz in our tree. He lived came to the US

and settled in St. Paul in 1900 and then moved to Los Angeles.
I believe he was >from Romania and his name was Bercovici.

More accurately he may have come >from Bukovina
which was included at one time in Galicia
and now is part of Romania and Ukraine.

He married my great aunt Tina Brucker, also >from Romania.

I wonder if Bercovitz and Berkovitz derive >from the same name,
Bercovici or are completely different names.

Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@...
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net
Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz & Bukowina,
Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary and St.
Paul MN ,BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz, Poland and St. Paul,
MN, BERCOVITZ (BERCOVICI) in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
BRUCKER, WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary
SEGALOVE/SOKOLVSKY >from Ternovka, Ukraine
mailto:shel@...

GDUD #general

JSelig3460@...
 

This appears to be a contraction of the name Geduld, which if my memory
serves me correctly, translates into "pity".

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GDUD #general

JSelig3460@...
 

This appears to be a contraction of the name Geduld, which if my memory
serves me correctly, translates into "pity".

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr

Re: Searching: LEIBOVICI Family who immigrated to States from Falticeni, Romania #hungary

daniel.lebovici <daniel.lebovici@...>
 

This may help you: the list of people who got the french nationality between 1900 and 1950 :

First column: Name
second : Birthday
Third : Town In Romania
Fourth : Naturalisation date

Leibovici Avram 10/08/1901 Folticenie 11/08/1947
Matc 20/02/1987 Falticeni 29/01/1930
Zellig 06/05/1905 Folticeni 30/06/1947
Leibovici 27/06/1895 Falteceni 26/09/1947 Birth
name: Bercu
Leibovici 15/05/1886 Falticeni 23/02/1927 Birth
name: Marcovici

Each item has a reference in the french "Journal Officiel".

My grand father was Samuel Leibovici,
Born in Botosani (Romania) birthdate : 31/12/1882
Married with Caroline Stern, born in Dehorf (Romania) in 1882
He came into France in 1906 >from Bucarest
Samuel's parents were Hermon Leibovici and Ernestine Aron

I will be very glad to know if Samuel had sister or brother, and where they
are.

Thanks for help

Daniel Lebovici
Machault France

"irabin" <irabin@...> a ecrit dans le message news:
003501c23c63$58ada8c0$20c708d5@irabin...

I am researching the Leibovici family tree >from Falticeni, Suceava county,
Romania.
Their ancestors are E>from (Efraim) Leibovici & Ita Moscovici Leibovici.
They
had 8 children:
1. Mose Leib - 1880-1935
2. Sima Leibovici Leibovici - 1882-1952 - My grandmother
3. Avrum Hirs - 1883-1962
4. Leizer Wolf - 1890-19xx - Immigrated to States around 1909
5. Clara Leibovici Luck - 1892-19xx - Immigrated to States around 1916
6. Zelig
7. Iete Leibovici Goldberg - 18xx-19xx - Immigrated to States around
1913
8. Izidor (Strul) - 18xx-1984

I have the following information about the Leibovici who immigrated to
States:
- Leizer Wolf or Louis Leibovici had four children
- Clara Leibovici was married to Harry Luck
- Iete Leibovici was married to William Goldenberg and had three children
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
Iete had contact with my mother (Ida Leibovici Rabinovici) up to 1964, and
she lived in Florida.

I'll be very glad to have the descendants details, and to be in contact
with
Louis and Iete descendants.


Sincerely,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel
mailto:irabin@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: LEIBOVICI Family who immigrated to States from Falticeni, Romania #general

daniel.lebovici <daniel.lebovici@...>
 

This may help you: the list of people who got the french nationality between 1900 and 1950 :

First column: Name
second : Birthday
Third : Town In Romania
Fourth : Naturalisation date

Leibovici Avram 10/08/1901 Folticenie 11/08/1947
Matc 20/02/1987 Falticeni 29/01/1930
Zellig 06/05/1905 Folticeni 30/06/1947
Leibovici 27/06/1895 Falteceni 26/09/1947 Birth
name: Bercu
Leibovici 15/05/1886 Falticeni 23/02/1927 Birth
name: Marcovici

Each item has a reference in the french "Journal Officiel".

My grand father was Samuel Leibovici,
Born in Botosani (Romania) birthdate : 31/12/1882
Married with Caroline Stern, born in Dehorf (Romania) in 1882
He came into France in 1906 >from Bucarest
Samuel's parents were Hermon Leibovici and Ernestine Aron

I will be very glad to know if Samuel had sister or brother, and where they
are.

Thanks for help

Daniel Lebovici
Machault France

"irabin" <irabin@...> a ecrit dans le message news:
003501c23c63$58ada8c0$20c708d5@irabin...

I am researching the Leibovici family tree >from Falticeni, Suceava county,
Romania.
Their ancestors are E>from (Efraim) Leibovici & Ita Moscovici Leibovici.
They
had 8 children:
1. Mose Leib - 1880-1935
2. Sima Leibovici Leibovici - 1882-1952 - My grandmother
3. Avrum Hirs - 1883-1962
4. Leizer Wolf - 1890-19xx - Immigrated to States around 1909
5. Clara Leibovici Luck - 1892-19xx - Immigrated to States around 1916
6. Zelig
7. Iete Leibovici Goldberg - 18xx-19xx - Immigrated to States around
1913
8. Izidor (Strul) - 18xx-1984

I have the following information about the Leibovici who immigrated to
States:
- Leizer Wolf or Louis Leibovici had four children
- Clara Leibovici was married to Harry Luck
- Iete Leibovici was married to William Goldenberg and had three children
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
Iete had contact with my mother (Ida Leibovici Rabinovici) up to 1964, and
she lived in Florida.

I'll be very glad to have the descendants details, and to be in contact
with
Louis and Iete descendants.


Sincerely,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel
mailto:irabin@...

Re: GDUD in Argentina - CD Search #general

Carlos Glikson
 

David Priever asked how to locate Gabriel GDUD in Buenos Aires - his name
did not come up in on-line white pages.

The reason: He is listed as Gabriel FELD GDUD - and he does turn up when
looking for him in the white pages CD. A search for him in the paper phone
book under GDUD would also have been negative.

Just these lines to mention there is an extra step you can give - if the
on-line and paper white pages fail, try the white pages CD - it
automatically searches last names "containing xx" too.

I am mailing David the info privately.

Hope this helps,

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@...
Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Priever" <brooklyn1960@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: GDUD in Argentina
Dear Fellow Jewishgenners,
About a month ago I posted a query for the surname GDUD, which comes from
Lithuania. I received several responses about the origin of the name
which I appreciated very much.

I just located, via a Google search, a gentleman named Gabriel GDUD,
affiliated in 1993 with the University of Argentina in Buenos Aires The
email address provided is obsolete and a search of phone directories in
Argentina gives me only one other GDUD, Juan.

Any ideas or suggestions in locating Gabriel GDUD will be very greatly
appreciated.

David J. Priever
brooklyn1960@...
mailto:priever@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: GDUD in Argentina - CD Search #general

Carlos Glikson
 

David Priever asked how to locate Gabriel GDUD in Buenos Aires - his name
did not come up in on-line white pages.

The reason: He is listed as Gabriel FELD GDUD - and he does turn up when
looking for him in the white pages CD. A search for him in the paper phone
book under GDUD would also have been negative.

Just these lines to mention there is an extra step you can give - if the
on-line and paper white pages fail, try the white pages CD - it
automatically searches last names "containing xx" too.

I am mailing David the info privately.

Hope this helps,

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@...
Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Priever" <brooklyn1960@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: GDUD in Argentina
Dear Fellow Jewishgenners,
About a month ago I posted a query for the surname GDUD, which comes from
Lithuania. I received several responses about the origin of the name
which I appreciated very much.

I just located, via a Google search, a gentleman named Gabriel GDUD,
affiliated in 1993 with the University of Argentina in Buenos Aires The
email address provided is obsolete and a search of phone directories in
Argentina gives me only one other GDUD, Juan.

Any ideas or suggestions in locating Gabriel GDUD will be very greatly
appreciated.

David J. Priever
brooklyn1960@...
mailto:priever@...

ALTMAN from Ronsperg (Pobezovice), Bohemia to London UK #unitedkingdom

Simon Torrington <storri@...>
 

I recently discovered that my direct male line is descended >from a Joseph=

ALTMAN >from Ronsperg (now called Pobezovice), Bohemia. There are plenty o=
f
London ALTMANs in my pedigree.

If you would like to share any information please let me know. Listed bel=
ow is
a list of known descendents, the number at the start of a line being the
generation number. I can provide a GEDCOM if you would like one.

Thanks,
Simon Torrington
Brighton, UK

Researching ALTMAN/ALTMANN Ronsperg (modern name is Pobezovice) in Bohemi=
a,
Plymouth UK and London UK

Descendants of Joseph ALTMANN
1. Joseph ALTMANN
sp: UNKNOWN
2. Nathan Joseph ALTMANN (b.1766;d.12 Oct 1849)
sp: Brimay JOSEPH (b.1781;d.23 Aug 1865)
3. Abraham Joseph ALTMAN (b.1802)
sp: COHEN
4. Esther ALTMAN (b.1831)
4. Fanny ALTMAN (b.1837)
4. Sir Albert Joseph ALTMAN (b.1839)
sp: Margaret Eliza VERNON (b.Sep 1848;m.26 May 1869)
5. Percy Albert Joseph ALTMAN (b.Jun 1870)
5. Stanley Richard ALTMAN (b.Dec 1871)
sp: HOULSTON (m.1923)
5. Ernest Henry ALTMAN (b.Dec 1872)
5. Violet Maud M ALTMAN (b.Dec 1873)
5. Gertrude Sarah ALTMAN (b.Mar 1876)
5. Mabel Eveline R ALTMAN (b.Sep 1877)
5. Montague Vincent ALTMAN (b.29 Jul 1878)
4. Josephine ALTMAN (b.1841)
sp: Rebecca COHEN
4. Edward ALTMAN (b.1853)
4. Sarah ALTMAN (b.1854)
4. Alice ALTMAN (b.1855)
4. Eva ALTMAN (b.1859)
3. Henry ALTMAN (b.1828)
2. Joachim ALTMANN

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom ALTMAN from Ronsperg (Pobezovice), Bohemia to London UK #unitedkingdom

Simon Torrington <storri@...>
 

I recently discovered that my direct male line is descended >from a Joseph=

ALTMAN >from Ronsperg (now called Pobezovice), Bohemia. There are plenty o=
f
London ALTMANs in my pedigree.

If you would like to share any information please let me know. Listed bel=
ow is
a list of known descendents, the number at the start of a line being the
generation number. I can provide a GEDCOM if you would like one.

Thanks,
Simon Torrington
Brighton, UK

Researching ALTMAN/ALTMANN Ronsperg (modern name is Pobezovice) in Bohemi=
a,
Plymouth UK and London UK

Descendants of Joseph ALTMANN
1. Joseph ALTMANN
sp: UNKNOWN
2. Nathan Joseph ALTMANN (b.1766;d.12 Oct 1849)
sp: Brimay JOSEPH (b.1781;d.23 Aug 1865)
3. Abraham Joseph ALTMAN (b.1802)
sp: COHEN
4. Esther ALTMAN (b.1831)
4. Fanny ALTMAN (b.1837)
4. Sir Albert Joseph ALTMAN (b.1839)
sp: Margaret Eliza VERNON (b.Sep 1848;m.26 May 1869)
5. Percy Albert Joseph ALTMAN (b.Jun 1870)
5. Stanley Richard ALTMAN (b.Dec 1871)
sp: HOULSTON (m.1923)
5. Ernest Henry ALTMAN (b.Dec 1872)
5. Violet Maud M ALTMAN (b.Dec 1873)
5. Gertrude Sarah ALTMAN (b.Mar 1876)
5. Mabel Eveline R ALTMAN (b.Sep 1877)
5. Montague Vincent ALTMAN (b.29 Jul 1878)
4. Josephine ALTMAN (b.1841)
sp: Rebecca COHEN
4. Edward ALTMAN (b.1853)
4. Sarah ALTMAN (b.1854)
4. Alice ALTMAN (b.1855)
4. Eva ALTMAN (b.1859)
3. Henry ALTMAN (b.1828)
2. Joachim ALTMANN

Re: Corcisco, Latvia? #latvia

martha@...
 

John G. Cakars deserves a huge pat on the back for going to such trouble for the enquiry about "Corcisco"! Hats off to you, John, for a thorough job carefully done!

Martha

Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Corcisco, Latvia? #latvia

martha@...
 

John G. Cakars deserves a huge pat on the back for going to such trouble for the enquiry about "Corcisco"! Hats off to you, John, for a thorough job carefully done!

Martha

KGB Files May Reveal Genealogical Data For Belarus Families #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

The August 9, 2002, Weekly Digest >from the Belarus Embassy in Washington DC
contained the following:

Vitebsk region KGB office has presented a personal file on Marc Chagall's
sister to the Museum of the painter. The personal file on Mariaska Chagall
was started by the Temporary Extraordinary Committee (the terms used for
criminal police after the October 1917 revolution in Russia) after she was
employed to work as a post censor in the military. The personal file of
Chagall's younger sister contains some data on the life of the Chagall's in
1920-1921 in Vitebsk.=A0

The files confirmed some well-known facts of the painter=B9s life and reveale=
d
some new ones. For instance, the file materials made it possible to
determine the exact dates of birth of the father of Marc Chagall and that
his father was married twice, to two sisters consequently (according to
Jewish tradition, after the wife dies the widower would marry her sister).

To subscribe to the email Weekly Digest go to:
http://www.belarusembassy.org/

Dave
--=20
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

Belarus SIG #Belarus KGB Files May Reveal Genealogical Data For Belarus Families #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

The August 9, 2002, Weekly Digest >from the Belarus Embassy in Washington DC
contained the following:

Vitebsk region KGB office has presented a personal file on Marc Chagall's
sister to the Museum of the painter. The personal file on Mariaska Chagall
was started by the Temporary Extraordinary Committee (the terms used for
criminal police after the October 1917 revolution in Russia) after she was
employed to work as a post censor in the military. The personal file of
Chagall's younger sister contains some data on the life of the Chagall's in
1920-1921 in Vitebsk.=A0

The files confirmed some well-known facts of the painter=B9s life and reveale=
d
some new ones. For instance, the file materials made it possible to
determine the exact dates of birth of the father of Marc Chagall and that
his father was married twice, to two sisters consequently (according to
Jewish tradition, after the wife dies the widower would marry her sister).

To subscribe to the email Weekly Digest go to:
http://www.belarusembassy.org/

Dave
--=20
David Fox
Mail to: davefox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

Re: town of origin #belarus

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

For what it's worth, the later ship manifists do include the town of origin,
although the spelling may have many variants. My gm's 1899 manifest (and
anything later than that) includes the exact town of origin. Some later
manifests include town of birth as well as town of last residence, and will
even give the town of the nearest relative in the Old Country (I even have
one record, where a relative went back for a visit to Lithuania in the
1920's/30's, where the exact address of her sister in Anyksciai is listed).
The steamship forms were revised periodically, and included additional
information with each revision. The earlier manifests aren't always
specific.

Census records tend to be very generic, and "Russia" is very common.
Occasionally you will see the name of the province. Also, many people just
gave the name of the nearest big city in some records (SS-5, marriage
licenses, death certificates), rather than the specific town, e.g., Kovno
instead of Mosedis, Dvinsk instead of Ribinishki, Grodno instad of Kossovo
(I had to include one example >from Belarus!).

Marion Werle
<werle@...>

Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: town of origin #belarus

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

For what it's worth, the later ship manifists do include the town of origin,
although the spelling may have many variants. My gm's 1899 manifest (and
anything later than that) includes the exact town of origin. Some later
manifests include town of birth as well as town of last residence, and will
even give the town of the nearest relative in the Old Country (I even have
one record, where a relative went back for a visit to Lithuania in the
1920's/30's, where the exact address of her sister in Anyksciai is listed).
The steamship forms were revised periodically, and included additional
information with each revision. The earlier manifests aren't always
specific.

Census records tend to be very generic, and "Russia" is very common.
Occasionally you will see the name of the province. Also, many people just
gave the name of the nearest big city in some records (SS-5, marriage
licenses, death certificates), rather than the specific town, e.g., Kovno
instead of Mosedis, Dvinsk instead of Ribinishki, Grodno instad of Kossovo
(I had to include one example >from Belarus!).

Marion Werle
<werle@...>

city of origin #belarus

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

In response to Bette Greenfield's query concerning the non-listing of place
of origin for emigrants, two things come to mind, although all speculation.

First, the ship's personnel (no matter port of departure) would have found it
difficult to communicate with the passengers. Secondly, I would think that
the city or province of origin may not have mattered to anyone involved.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@...

Belarus SIG #Belarus city of origin #belarus

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

In response to Bette Greenfield's query concerning the non-listing of place
of origin for emigrants, two things come to mind, although all speculation.

First, the ship's personnel (no matter port of departure) would have found it
difficult to communicate with the passengers. Secondly, I would think that
the city or province of origin may not have mattered to anyone involved.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@...