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Re: Coordinator's thanks to Yizkor book fund donors #yizkorbooks

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Marion:

When ever there is a contribution to either of the 2 Yizkor Books I
coordinate - Stawiski and Sochaczew (Poland) I ALWAYS send a thank you - by
e-mail or if no e-mail address known then snail mail. I agree that it is the
coordinator who has to do the majority of fundraising and sending thank yous
is a way to keep it going.

I send e-mails out to all those I know for the two YB shtetls and keep them
advised when new translations are on-line. In those e-mails I always ask of
more donations and ask for them to let me know when donations are made so I
can cross check I agree that there is no good cross check now. A person in
England told me they made a contribution to theSochaczew YB back in June and
to date I have not seen it listed. I don't know if they didn't send it, sent
it and it was incorrectly credited or when they sent it the check was not
received or they incorrectly made it out to the YB fund and didn't correctly
specify which YB translation. I agree a better system should be developed.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA
Coordinator, Stawiski and Sochaczew Yizkor Book Translations


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Coordinator's thanks to Yizkor book fund donors #yizkorbooks

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Marion:

When ever there is a contribution to either of the 2 Yizkor Books I
coordinate - Stawiski and Sochaczew (Poland) I ALWAYS send a thank you - by
e-mail or if no e-mail address known then snail mail. I agree that it is the
coordinator who has to do the majority of fundraising and sending thank yous
is a way to keep it going.

I send e-mails out to all those I know for the two YB shtetls and keep them
advised when new translations are on-line. In those e-mails I always ask of
more donations and ask for them to let me know when donations are made so I
can cross check I agree that there is no good cross check now. A person in
England told me they made a contribution to theSochaczew YB back in June and
to date I have not seen it listed. I don't know if they didn't send it, sent
it and it was incorrectly credited or when they sent it the check was not
received or they incorrectly made it out to the YB fund and didn't correctly
specify which YB translation. I agree a better system should be developed.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA
Coordinator, Stawiski and Sochaczew Yizkor Book Translations


Re: The Jewis of Jebenhausen: a model on-line history #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/27/2002
jebenhausen@... (Jacques Bauland of Marsaxlokk, Malta) writes:

Jebenhausen - A Jewish Community in Wuerttemberg See a 19th century
village - explore a bygone world
http://www.worldzone.net/family/jebenhausen mailto:jebenhausen@...

==I heartily recommend this site to everyone on this list. The
information given for this particular village is applicable, with obvious
local variations, for most Jewish village communities in Germany and will
help us better understand the social atmosphere of our ancestors' lives..

==Moreover, this site is a model for what could be done to commemorate the
Jewish history of most town and villages. I'm sure that if two or three
descendants >from a specific village got together, they could get support
from the current municipality, local archivists and scholars at the
nearest universities (and the Leo Baeck institute?), to collect maps,
photographs, documents, etc to publish such a history on line.

Many thanks to Jacques Bauland of Malta whose ancestors (judging by the
name) were among the Jewish worthies of Jebenhausen.

Michael Bernet, New York, mBernet@...


German SIG #Germany Re: The Jewis of Jebenhausen: a model on-line history #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/27/2002
jebenhausen@... (Jacques Bauland of Marsaxlokk, Malta) writes:

Jebenhausen - A Jewish Community in Wuerttemberg See a 19th century
village - explore a bygone world
http://www.worldzone.net/family/jebenhausen mailto:jebenhausen@...

==I heartily recommend this site to everyone on this list. The
information given for this particular village is applicable, with obvious
local variations, for most Jewish village communities in Germany and will
help us better understand the social atmosphere of our ancestors' lives..

==Moreover, this site is a model for what could be done to commemorate the
Jewish history of most town and villages. I'm sure that if two or three
descendants >from a specific village got together, they could get support
from the current municipality, local archivists and scholars at the
nearest universities (and the Leo Baeck institute?), to collect maps,
photographs, documents, etc to publish such a history on line.

Many thanks to Jacques Bauland of Malta whose ancestors (judging by the
name) were among the Jewish worthies of Jebenhausen.

Michael Bernet, New York, mBernet@...


Re: The Jewish Migration to Germany #germany

MBernet@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE:
The question of the origins of the Jewish population of pre-Nazi Germany
has no simple or universally accepted answer. Recent advances in
DNA research have produced new data and shed doubt on theories which
had been widely accepted. As this research continues the history
of Jewish migration to Germany will be revised further.

In this Forum we don't like to confuse personal opinion with established
fact.

When writing to the GerSig Forum on such topics, members should make
it clear which of their statements are based on personal opinion.

Statements based upon published research findings should include
citations to that published data. This will help make questions such as
that >from Michael Bernet (below) unnecessary.

In a message dated 9/27/2002 jebenhausen@..., writing of the Jews who
settled in Germany in the 10th century writes:

"However, other evidence suggests there were also people with a Slavic
language background."

==I'm very curious abut this one. What is the evidence? How did they get
to slavic countries in the first case?

The DNA evidence, incidentally, shows that most Ashkenzaic males are
descended on their male lines to ancestors in the greater Syria area;
the female line suggests a limited number of female ancestors who were of
local, not Syrian genetic descent.

Michael Bernet, New York, mBernet@...


German SIG #Germany Re: The Jewish Migration to Germany #germany

MBernet@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE:
The question of the origins of the Jewish population of pre-Nazi Germany
has no simple or universally accepted answer. Recent advances in
DNA research have produced new data and shed doubt on theories which
had been widely accepted. As this research continues the history
of Jewish migration to Germany will be revised further.

In this Forum we don't like to confuse personal opinion with established
fact.

When writing to the GerSig Forum on such topics, members should make
it clear which of their statements are based on personal opinion.

Statements based upon published research findings should include
citations to that published data. This will help make questions such as
that >from Michael Bernet (below) unnecessary.

In a message dated 9/27/2002 jebenhausen@..., writing of the Jews who
settled in Germany in the 10th century writes:

"However, other evidence suggests there were also people with a Slavic
language background."

==I'm very curious abut this one. What is the evidence? How did they get
to slavic countries in the first case?

The DNA evidence, incidentally, shows that most Ashkenzaic males are
descended on their male lines to ancestors in the greater Syria area;
the female line suggests a limited number of female ancestors who were of
local, not Syrian genetic descent.

Michael Bernet, New York, mBernet@...


Re: Origins of German Jews #germany

Eve Richardson <erchrdsn@...>
 

I found Jacques Bauland's message on German Jews extremely interesting.
Jacques, how far back is it thought that the bulk of German Jewry is
thought to go, and >from where is it thought they came ?

Eve Richardson Toronto, Canada


German SIG #Germany Re: Origins of German Jews #germany

Eve Richardson <erchrdsn@...>
 

I found Jacques Bauland's message on German Jews extremely interesting.
Jacques, how far back is it thought that the bulk of German Jewry is
thought to go, and >from where is it thought they came ?

Eve Richardson Toronto, Canada


Posen help, please! #germany

Mimi Katz <GeveretK@...>
 

I'm new to this SIG and would appreciate some direction >from a Posen
researching maven. I've been doing genealogy for a number of years, but
I'm new to researching in Posen. I understand that the LDS has a film of
Jews that were naturalized there in 1834-35. What information can I
expect to find in that film other than a person's name?

I would like to locate birth records circa 1850. How would I do that?
The LDS civil records seem to begin in the 1870's, and there don't appear
to be any records for this area in the JRI-PL.database. Any help would be
appreciated! Thanks,

Mimi Katz, Chicago, Illinois USA

Researching: ISAACS, Posen MANNES, Skoki (formerly Schoken)
JACOBSON, Skoki (formerly Schoken) ROSENTHAL, Skoki and Rogasin
LANDO, somewhere in Poland


German SIG #Germany Posen help, please! #germany

Mimi Katz <GeveretK@...>
 

I'm new to this SIG and would appreciate some direction >from a Posen
researching maven. I've been doing genealogy for a number of years, but
I'm new to researching in Posen. I understand that the LDS has a film of
Jews that were naturalized there in 1834-35. What information can I
expect to find in that film other than a person's name?

I would like to locate birth records circa 1850. How would I do that?
The LDS civil records seem to begin in the 1870's, and there don't appear
to be any records for this area in the JRI-PL.database. Any help would be
appreciated! Thanks,

Mimi Katz, Chicago, Illinois USA

Researching: ISAACS, Posen MANNES, Skoki (formerly Schoken)
JACOBSON, Skoki (formerly Schoken) ROSENTHAL, Skoki and Rogasin
LANDO, somewhere in Poland


OPPENHEIM & HERTZ #germany

phbayen@...
 

Arbre: Salomon Oppenheim
I would like to know the ancestry of banker Salomon OPPENHEIM
(B. Bonn1772 - d.1828).

His daughter Betty OPPENHEIM (B0 ? - d.1876) married Heinrich David
HERTZ >from Hamburg (=B01797- d.1862).More informations can be found on:

http://www.oppenheim.de/bankhaus/konzernuebersicht/niederl_hamburg.htm#ge
schichte

I am also interested in the genealogy of Heinrich David HERTZ , with
two famous scientists in his posterity.

See below a beginning of family tree Thank you for your answer.

Jean-Pierre Kahn Paris, France

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Salomon Oppenheim 1772-1828
& Therese Stein +1891

Helena Oppenheim 1799-1891 Simon Oppenheim 1803-1880
Abraham Oppenheim 1804-1878 Dagobert Oppenheim 1809-1889
Alexandre Oppenheim 1814-1903 Betty Oppenheim +1878 Charlotte
Oppenheim &1813 Benoit Fould 1792-1858 &1830 Henriette Obermayer 1812-1885 & Charlotte Beyfus &1845 Elise Beer 1821-1880 & Heinrich David
Hertz 1797-1862 & Adolphe Ratisbonne
Zelie Elisa Albert Eduard
Gustav Ferdinand 1827-1914 Louis Fortune Gustave 1827-1900 Flore


German SIG #Germany OPPENHEIM & HERTZ #germany

phbayen@...
 

Arbre: Salomon Oppenheim
I would like to know the ancestry of banker Salomon OPPENHEIM
(B. Bonn1772 - d.1828).

His daughter Betty OPPENHEIM (B0 ? - d.1876) married Heinrich David
HERTZ >from Hamburg (=B01797- d.1862).More informations can be found on:

http://www.oppenheim.de/bankhaus/konzernuebersicht/niederl_hamburg.htm#ge
schichte

I am also interested in the genealogy of Heinrich David HERTZ , with
two famous scientists in his posterity.

See below a beginning of family tree Thank you for your answer.

Jean-Pierre Kahn Paris, France

MODERATOR NOTE: Your message was sent to us in MultiPart format which
our listserver does not manage well.

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Salomon Oppenheim 1772-1828
& Therese Stein +1891

Helena Oppenheim 1799-1891 Simon Oppenheim 1803-1880
Abraham Oppenheim 1804-1878 Dagobert Oppenheim 1809-1889
Alexandre Oppenheim 1814-1903 Betty Oppenheim +1878 Charlotte
Oppenheim &1813 Benoit Fould 1792-1858 &1830 Henriette Obermayer 1812-1885 & Charlotte Beyfus &1845 Elise Beer 1821-1880 & Heinrich David
Hertz 1797-1862 & Adolphe Ratisbonne
Zelie Elisa Albert Eduard
Gustav Ferdinand 1827-1914 Louis Fortune Gustave 1827-1900 Flore


INTRO - Loewy family Berlin and the Netherlands #germany

Don Crowley <don.crowley@...>
 

Hi GerSIG,
I have just joined GerSIG. i have been a member of JewishGen for about a
year. I am an intermediate genealogist but a novice with Jewish genealogy.
I am married to Dutch girl with the LOEWY surname.

I have a website
www.rhubarbleaf.com/loewy/index.html
with the details of our history. We are looking for Katharina Rosa LOEWY
born 14 April 1883 in Berlin Germany came to the Netherlands in 1905 to
give birth to Ulrich Georg LOEWY.

Ulrich Georg was born on 30 March 1905. The father was unknown. The child
was known as Georg and was adopted by George Johannes Christiaan EICHORN,
a business relation of Katharina Rosas father.

After the birth of (Ulrich) Georg, Katharina returned to Germany and was
never heard of again. I have done some research as to what happened to
Katharina. We have no evidence of anything. I have checked a lot of
Holocaust records to no avail. I have also checked a Jewish genealogy site
and have no definate answers. There is a more than resonable chance though
that Katharina Rosa LOEWY did get to America.

Katharina Rosa is the name that appears in documentation recently
optained. But She was always refered to as Kate Rosalie. On Ancestry.com I
have found the following record:

Surname LOEWY
Given Name ROSALIE Middle Name - Sex FEMALE Birth Date 01/05/1882
Death Date 08/03/1961 Birth Place GERMANY Death Place LOS ANGELES
Social Security # - Mother's Maiden Name KAISER Father's Surname LOEWY

While the dates of birth are not identical, they are only 50 weeks apart.
I am looking for contact with ancestors Rosalie Loewy (1882 - 1961).

This website www.rhubarbleaf.com/loewy/hist-photos.html contains photos
and a signature of Katharina. The signature has been obtained >from the
Dutch authorities and was extracted >from Katharinas Immigration
registration.

If anyone has any ideas or leads please contact me, I would be very
grateful.

Don Crowley CITY? STATE?

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German SIG #Germany INTRO - Loewy family Berlin and the Netherlands #germany

Don Crowley <don.crowley@...>
 

Hi GerSIG,
I have just joined GerSIG. i have been a member of JewishGen for about a
year. I am an intermediate genealogist but a novice with Jewish genealogy.
I am married to Dutch girl with the LOEWY surname.

I have a website
www.rhubarbleaf.com/loewy/index.html
with the details of our history. We are looking for Katharina Rosa LOEWY
born 14 April 1883 in Berlin Germany came to the Netherlands in 1905 to
give birth to Ulrich Georg LOEWY.

Ulrich Georg was born on 30 March 1905. The father was unknown. The child
was known as Georg and was adopted by George Johannes Christiaan EICHORN,
a business relation of Katharina Rosas father.

After the birth of (Ulrich) Georg, Katharina returned to Germany and was
never heard of again. I have done some research as to what happened to
Katharina. We have no evidence of anything. I have checked a lot of
Holocaust records to no avail. I have also checked a Jewish genealogy site
and have no definate answers. There is a more than resonable chance though
that Katharina Rosa LOEWY did get to America.

Katharina Rosa is the name that appears in documentation recently
optained. But She was always refered to as Kate Rosalie. On Ancestry.com I
have found the following record:

Surname LOEWY
Given Name ROSALIE Middle Name - Sex FEMALE Birth Date 01/05/1882
Death Date 08/03/1961 Birth Place GERMANY Death Place LOS ANGELES
Social Security # - Mother's Maiden Name KAISER Father's Surname LOEWY

While the dates of birth are not identical, they are only 50 weeks apart.
I am looking for contact with ancestors Rosalie Loewy (1882 - 1961).

This website www.rhubarbleaf.com/loewy/hist-photos.html contains photos
and a signature of Katharina. The signature has been obtained >from the
Dutch authorities and was extracted >from Katharinas Immigration
registration.

If anyone has any ideas or leads please contact me, I would be very
grateful.

Don Crowley CITY? STATE?

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this Forum with your full name plus city and state of residence.


Jewish surnames from the Mosel region SITE CITE #germany

gregor brand <Gregor.Brand@...>
 

On my homepage I published an article (in German) about "Mosellaendische
Ortsnamen als juedische Familiennamen". You can find it under the
following address:

http://www.angelfire.com/art/gregorbrand/Namen.html

It deals with Jewish names >from the 17th and 18th century who were derived
from the names of villages and towns in the German Mosel region (between
Coblence [Koblenz] and Trier). Some of these surnames still exist today.

Surnames mentioned are for example: BERNKASTEL/BERNCASTEL; SCHWEICH;
TRIER; WITTLICH; TRITEM; KLESSERT; DETZEM; SOBERNHEIM; KELSEN; MEHRING;
MEERFELD; KILBARG; PINNERICH

There were of cause different spellings of these names.
With best wishes to all.

Gregor Brand, Bargstedt, Germany
www.angelfire.com/art/gregorbrand


German SIG #Germany Jewish surnames from the Mosel region SITE CITE #germany

gregor brand <Gregor.Brand@...>
 

On my homepage I published an article (in German) about "Mosellaendische
Ortsnamen als juedische Familiennamen". You can find it under the
following address:

http://www.angelfire.com/art/gregorbrand/Namen.html

It deals with Jewish names >from the 17th and 18th century who were derived
from the names of villages and towns in the German Mosel region (between
Coblence [Koblenz] and Trier). Some of these surnames still exist today.

Surnames mentioned are for example: BERNKASTEL/BERNCASTEL; SCHWEICH;
TRIER; WITTLICH; TRITEM; KLESSERT; DETZEM; SOBERNHEIM; KELSEN; MEHRING;
MEERFELD; KILBARG; PINNERICH

There were of cause different spellings of these names.
With best wishes to all.

Gregor Brand, Bargstedt, Germany
www.angelfire.com/art/gregorbrand


Descendants of Meir of Rothenburg #rabbinic

Pascal FAUSTINI <pascal.faustini@...>
 

Dear Rav-Siggers,

In the "Jewish Encyclopedia" and in Neubauer ("La famille de Meir
de Rothenburg", R.E.J. XII) , we can read that "when Meir was
imprisoned in Alsace, many of his relatives also went to that
country, members of his family being found there for centuries".

Who knows the names of the children of Meir...?

Pascal Faustini
Thionville, France

[Moderator's Note: The Jewish Encyclopedia's article on Meir of
Rothenburg, written by Solomon Schechter and Louis Ginzberg, may
be found at:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=362&letter=M ]


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Descendants of Meir of Rothenburg #rabbinic

Pascal FAUSTINI <pascal.faustini@...>
 

Dear Rav-Siggers,

In the "Jewish Encyclopedia" and in Neubauer ("La famille de Meir
de Rothenburg", R.E.J. XII) , we can read that "when Meir was
imprisoned in Alsace, many of his relatives also went to that
country, members of his family being found there for centuries".

Who knows the names of the children of Meir...?

Pascal Faustini
Thionville, France

[Moderator's Note: The Jewish Encyclopedia's article on Meir of
Rothenburg, written by Solomon Schechter and Louis Ginzberg, may
be found at:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=362&letter=M ]


CAHJP URL #romania

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

This is the web site for the CAHJP in Israel which has some records for
Iasi/Jassy Romania..BUT they are closed for their move..Gayle

http://sites.huji.ac.il/archives/page3.htm

Moderator Note: The URL is for the page on which Gayle found the
information about the Romanian holdings.


Romania SIG #Romania CAHJP URL #romania

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

This is the web site for the CAHJP in Israel which has some records for
Iasi/Jassy Romania..BUT they are closed for their move..Gayle

http://sites.huji.ac.il/archives/page3.htm

Moderator Note: The URL is for the page on which Gayle found the
information about the Romanian holdings.