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Re : HIMMELSPRING #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

I found that name in our Belgian file.

HIMMELSPRING Haym
mar. Fanny Ackerman
1. HIMMELSPRING Paule ° Paris (15) 12.11.1897
At Paris (16) rue Boileau, 7 on 26.7.1932
Married at St Martin des Champs (France) 7.9.1923
William Mendel b.Brussels 19.10.1883

Then, I looked at the naturalisations between 1900 and 1950.
In 1916, I found :
Haym HIMMELSPRING born at Alexandria "Russia" in 1867
Fanny Ackerman was born at Warsaw 1868
They had also a son Jacob born 18 November 1895 in Anderlecht, Belgium.

Shana Tova to all !

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
asso.genami@...
http://asso.genami.free.fr

Re: KAGAN from Riga #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for information on the following family >from Riga, Latvia:

KAGAN, Yosel, son of Eliyohu and Base, born 1940, Riga, Latvia.

KAGAN, Kalmon, born 1932, Riga, Latvia

The children were orphans living in the Kovner Yiddisher Kinderheim.

Would like to find what happened to them. I am not researching the Kagan
family and so have no further information.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

Re: Use Obituaries for Research #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

David Simon Bendory wrote:

I spent hours over the past weeks combing through local newspapers in
search of obituaries. While some are quite "standard" and don't have
any new information, others have a wealth of new tidbits.


As we all no doubt reflect upon our lives as Rosh HaShanah approaches,
we should remember that those we research are not just the composite
facts we gather. They had lives full of hobbies and interests, just
like we do.
Quite so! I'm currently going through the many letters my father
received when he gathered in the facts about his relatives in the late
1970's. Although I have never met most of these people, and never will
meet most of them (even counting only those alive when he was collecting
the information), the jokes, tragedies, family legends, and so on
are--to me, at least--even better than photographs. In the end, they
remind me of the (cosmically speaking) trivial things that I consider
important to my own life, and how we take turns looking into, now this
end, now that end of the telescope. I tell ya, we humans are the
*strangest* people!

And don't forget the paid death notices that appear nearby, often in the
days before or after the obituary. Families, friends, employers,
synagogue societies, lodges, unions, and others take out such
notices--and sometimes those notices can even provide leads to more
information.

With all best wishes of peace, joy, prosperity, and fortuitous
discoveries to all of you, and all of yours, for the new year--

Roger Lustig
researching Upper Silesia in general, Gleiwitz in particular, and
families LUSTIG, LANDSBERGER, GLASER, TROPLOWITZ, HALBERSTADT,
PAPPENHEIM, etc.

Getting the Correct Manifest #general

carols
 

Hello Genners and Happy New Year to all!
I was excited to find my grandmother's brother's name on the Ellis
Island site. I went for the "gold" and clicked on the original manifest
only to find the incorrect manifest and no listing for my possible
relative Leibe Soloncz. I clicked on text manifest and found that he
came to America on the ship the Patricia, November 20, 1903. He is on
that manifest list but only text. When I click on the original
manifest, it brings up La Bretagne, arriving November 23, 1903 and Leibe
is not on the list. EI has mixed it up. How do I let them know of
this error? Is their anyway I can get the correct manifest as it is on
the site now? If anyone out there understands my problem, I would so
appreciate your help. Thank you.

Carol Streem
Cleveland, Ohio
STRIMOVSKY, STREEM... Kremenchug...NYC....Cleveland. CHANOWICZ,
KANOVITCH,KANOFITCH,KANOWITZ,KENN......Lomza...NYC. FRENKIEL,
FRANKEL....Lomza...NYC
SMOLINSKY....Lomza or Vilna?...NYC
SOLONTZ, SOLONCZ, SALANT.....Minsk....NYC
GRUNBAUM, GREENBAUM....Lodz....Lanskrona,Sweden....Joliet, Ill.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re : HIMMELSPRING #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

I found that name in our Belgian file.

HIMMELSPRING Haym
mar. Fanny Ackerman
1. HIMMELSPRING Paule ° Paris (15) 12.11.1897
At Paris (16) rue Boileau, 7 on 26.7.1932
Married at St Martin des Champs (France) 7.9.1923
William Mendel b.Brussels 19.10.1883

Then, I looked at the naturalisations between 1900 and 1950.
In 1916, I found :
Haym HIMMELSPRING born at Alexandria "Russia" in 1867
Fanny Ackerman was born at Warsaw 1868
They had also a son Jacob born 18 November 1895 in Anderlecht, Belgium.

Shana Tova to all !

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
asso.genami@...
http://asso.genami.free.fr

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: KAGAN from Riga #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for information on the following family >from Riga, Latvia:

KAGAN, Yosel, son of Eliyohu and Base, born 1940, Riga, Latvia.

KAGAN, Kalmon, born 1932, Riga, Latvia

The children were orphans living in the Kovner Yiddisher Kinderheim.

Would like to find what happened to them. I am not researching the Kagan
family and so have no further information.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Use Obituaries for Research #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

David Simon Bendory wrote:

I spent hours over the past weeks combing through local newspapers in
search of obituaries. While some are quite "standard" and don't have
any new information, others have a wealth of new tidbits.


As we all no doubt reflect upon our lives as Rosh HaShanah approaches,
we should remember that those we research are not just the composite
facts we gather. They had lives full of hobbies and interests, just
like we do.
Quite so! I'm currently going through the many letters my father
received when he gathered in the facts about his relatives in the late
1970's. Although I have never met most of these people, and never will
meet most of them (even counting only those alive when he was collecting
the information), the jokes, tragedies, family legends, and so on
are--to me, at least--even better than photographs. In the end, they
remind me of the (cosmically speaking) trivial things that I consider
important to my own life, and how we take turns looking into, now this
end, now that end of the telescope. I tell ya, we humans are the
*strangest* people!

And don't forget the paid death notices that appear nearby, often in the
days before or after the obituary. Families, friends, employers,
synagogue societies, lodges, unions, and others take out such
notices--and sometimes those notices can even provide leads to more
information.

With all best wishes of peace, joy, prosperity, and fortuitous
discoveries to all of you, and all of yours, for the new year--

Roger Lustig
researching Upper Silesia in general, Gleiwitz in particular, and
families LUSTIG, LANDSBERGER, GLASER, TROPLOWITZ, HALBERSTADT,
PAPPENHEIM, etc.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Getting the Correct Manifest #general

carols
 

Hello Genners and Happy New Year to all!
I was excited to find my grandmother's brother's name on the Ellis
Island site. I went for the "gold" and clicked on the original manifest
only to find the incorrect manifest and no listing for my possible
relative Leibe Soloncz. I clicked on text manifest and found that he
came to America on the ship the Patricia, November 20, 1903. He is on
that manifest list but only text. When I click on the original
manifest, it brings up La Bretagne, arriving November 23, 1903 and Leibe
is not on the list. EI has mixed it up. How do I let them know of
this error? Is their anyway I can get the correct manifest as it is on
the site now? If anyone out there understands my problem, I would so
appreciate your help. Thank you.

Carol Streem
Cleveland, Ohio
STRIMOVSKY, STREEM... Kremenchug...NYC....Cleveland. CHANOWICZ,
KANOVITCH,KANOFITCH,KANOWITZ,KENN......Lomza...NYC. FRENKIEL,
FRANKEL....Lomza...NYC
SMOLINSKY....Lomza or Vilna?...NYC
SOLONTZ, SOLONCZ, SALANT.....Minsk....NYC
GRUNBAUM, GREENBAUM....Lodz....Lanskrona,Sweden....Joliet, Ill.

Abramson and Lewis #southafrica

shaul <shaul@...>
 

I am making this inquiry on behalf of a cousin. If it rings a bell with
anyone please contact me directly :

<<Looking for information on relatives of Helaine who settled in South Africa.
Her great aunt went to SA. about 1900 to 1925. Her maiden name was ABRAMSON
(or variant of this)
Prior to going to SA she went to England >from Russia and met and married a
Dr. LEWIS.
They had four children - 3 girls who became teachers and a son who had a
tannery.
Not sure but either this son or his son was involved in the hotel business
in Johannesburg. (if I'm not
mistaken it was a Lewis who founded the Holiday Inn franchise in s.a.)
Some grandchildren have become doctors and lawyers and some have emigrated.
Helaines late aunt Edith Elbaum visited them in SA about 35 years ago but
did not leave any information
on them when she died.>>


Saul Issroff

South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Abramson and Lewis #southafrica

shaul <shaul@...>
 

I am making this inquiry on behalf of a cousin. If it rings a bell with
anyone please contact me directly :

<<Looking for information on relatives of Helaine who settled in South Africa.
Her great aunt went to SA. about 1900 to 1925. Her maiden name was ABRAMSON
(or variant of this)
Prior to going to SA she went to England >from Russia and met and married a
Dr. LEWIS.
They had four children - 3 girls who became teachers and a son who had a
tannery.
Not sure but either this son or his son was involved in the hotel business
in Johannesburg. (if I'm not
mistaken it was a Lewis who founded the Holiday Inn franchise in s.a.)
Some grandchildren have become doctors and lawyers and some have emigrated.
Helaines late aunt Edith Elbaum visited them in SA about 35 years ago but
did not leave any information
on them when she died.>>


Saul Issroff

Re: location of Kreviniatz #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/5/02 8:50:52 PM, Andrew Blumberg
(ajb61@...) writes:

<< Can anyone tell me is they have ever heard of a town called Kreviniatz
in Ukraine, and where it is located.>>

Although I didn't recall having seen the name of this town before, I did
a few cursory searches in the several gazetteers and other books I own,
but I found nothing much like that spelling.

I would like to know how Mr. Blumberg knows of this town. Was it by word
of mouth, >from a document, >from a ship manifest transcription?

If it was by word of mouth, with what language was that mouth most
familiar? If it was >from a document like a naturalization paper, was the
person who filled it out literate in writing English? If it was >from ship
manifest was it an Ellis Island's text transcription (which are often
garbled), or was it >from viewing the image of the actual ship manifest
( not that what ships' agents wrote down was always accurate).

And has Mr. Blumberg tried using Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker?


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: location of Kreviniatz #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/5/02 8:50:52 PM, Andrew Blumberg
(ajb61@...) writes:

<< Can anyone tell me is they have ever heard of a town called Kreviniatz
in Ukraine, and where it is located.>>

Although I didn't recall having seen the name of this town before, I did
a few cursory searches in the several gazetteers and other books I own,
but I found nothing much like that spelling.

I would like to know how Mr. Blumberg knows of this town. Was it by word
of mouth, >from a document, >from a ship manifest transcription?

If it was by word of mouth, with what language was that mouth most
familiar? If it was >from a document like a naturalization paper, was the
person who filled it out literate in writing English? If it was >from ship
manifest was it an Ellis Island's text transcription (which are often
garbled), or was it >from viewing the image of the actual ship manifest
( not that what ships' agents wrote down was always accurate).

And has Mr. Blumberg tried using Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker?


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Parow Synagogue #southafrica

Lehmkuhl <rsa2can@...>
 

The Jewish Synagogue in Hopkins Street, Parow, which was donated to the
town by the Jewish community eight years ago (on condition that it be used
as a town museum), recently saw renovation work on its exterior.

A small amount of money was also recently paid, in order to take over the
property. There are plans to make the museum a satellite of the Cape Town
museum.

The interior of the synagogue needs extensive renovations.The ceiling and
the wooden floors will have to be replaced. The rest of the building,
erected in 1950, is in a good condition. The original architect was Alfred
H. HANIKMAN.

It will cost approx. R350 000 to renovate the interior, and it will cost a
lot more to turn it into a museum.

When the Parow Town Council took over the building in 1994, it was
estimated that it would cost R1,4 million to turn it into a museum. Gawie
Fagan Architects were consulted at that time, but nothing was decided and
the council left the building to stand as was. The general public often
complained that the building was being mis-used because it was vacant.

The Schul across the street has been used as a museum since 1994,but it is
more of a storage room because it is too small to serve as a museum.=20

Parow Town Council tried, on a few occasions, to have the Synagogue
demolished to make way for the central business district development. Now,
Mrs. Louise ING, who serves as curator of the Parow Museum, has been
appointed by the Cape Town City Council as co-ordinating project manager
for cultural heritage for the city of Cape Town.

______________________________________
Anne Lehmkuhl
http://www.rupert.net/~lkool/

My Apologies to Everyone #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Genners,

Is my face red! As your moderator I should have investigated more
carefully before posting the lists of surnames >from Veniamin Tsibka and
the Algonica lists >from Sumy, Ukraine. I did not realize these were
being offered as a means of paid research. At this point we have no
information as to the reliability of the people or agency.....so if you
are prepared to send them an order, please use due diligence. Because
this never should have been posted in the first place, we will post no
further lists >from these people but will ask Joyce Field, JewishGen's
Vice President for Research to pursue the matter to see if a project
can be developed. At least we would then have assurance of reliability.


Freya Blitstein Maslov

South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Parow Synagogue #southafrica

Lehmkuhl <rsa2can@...>
 

The Jewish Synagogue in Hopkins Street, Parow, which was donated to the
town by the Jewish community eight years ago (on condition that it be used
as a town museum), recently saw renovation work on its exterior.

A small amount of money was also recently paid, in order to take over the
property. There are plans to make the museum a satellite of the Cape Town
museum.

The interior of the synagogue needs extensive renovations.The ceiling and
the wooden floors will have to be replaced. The rest of the building,
erected in 1950, is in a good condition. The original architect was Alfred
H. HANIKMAN.

It will cost approx. R350 000 to renovate the interior, and it will cost a
lot more to turn it into a museum.

When the Parow Town Council took over the building in 1994, it was
estimated that it would cost R1,4 million to turn it into a museum. Gawie
Fagan Architects were consulted at that time, but nothing was decided and
the council left the building to stand as was. The general public often
complained that the building was being mis-used because it was vacant.

The Schul across the street has been used as a museum since 1994,but it is
more of a storage room because it is too small to serve as a museum.=20

Parow Town Council tried, on a few occasions, to have the Synagogue
demolished to make way for the central business district development. Now,
Mrs. Louise ING, who serves as curator of the Parow Museum, has been
appointed by the Cape Town City Council as co-ordinating project manager
for cultural heritage for the city of Cape Town.

______________________________________
Anne Lehmkuhl
http://www.rupert.net/~lkool/

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine My Apologies to Everyone #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Genners,

Is my face red! As your moderator I should have investigated more
carefully before posting the lists of surnames >from Veniamin Tsibka and
the Algonica lists >from Sumy, Ukraine. I did not realize these were
being offered as a means of paid research. At this point we have no
information as to the reliability of the people or agency.....so if you
are prepared to send them an order, please use due diligence. Because
this never should have been posted in the first place, we will post no
further lists >from these people but will ask Joyce Field, JewishGen's
Vice President for Research to pursue the matter to see if a project
can be developed. At least we would then have assurance of reliability.


Freya Blitstein Maslov

Forthcoming Moderator Leave #unitedkingdom

JCR-UK Moderator <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

Please be advised that should there be any messages written to the
group, there will be no moderating and thus no postings >from now until
tomorrow (Saturday) evening - UK time.

I wish you all a Shabbat shalom and a healthy, happy and peaceful New
Year.

Louise Messik
Lead Moderator
JCR-UK

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Forthcoming Moderator Leave #unitedkingdom

JCR-UK Moderator <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

Please be advised that should there be any messages written to the
group, there will be no moderating and thus no postings >from now until
tomorrow (Saturday) evening - UK time.

I wish you all a Shabbat shalom and a healthy, happy and peaceful New
Year.

Louise Messik
Lead Moderator
JCR-UK

Wishes for a Good New Year #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

May the coming year of 5763 be one of prosperity, health, nachas, all in
great abundance and peace and good news for all of us.

Yeruchem and Fraida Cohen

Researching:
TAUBER - Harasz, Austria> NY; MARKS - Pultusk, Poland> NY
POMERANTZ - Warsaw, Tarnow>NY, MA; HODES - Minsk or Odessa>NY
COHEN - Minsk or Kiyev>NY; SCHALL - Austria>NY

Re: Landsmanshaft organization Query #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Dear Ron,
There could be a very simple reason. It is possible that the original
organization used Yiddish at its meetings and the younger members wanted
to conduct meetings in English, so they became the "New Nook(?)"
Ida

-----Original Message-----
<< My grandmother was, for many years the President of the Proskurov Ladies
Society, division of the Proskurov Zion Society. Upon her death the PZS
placed a special bronze plaque on her gravestone in honor of her many
years of totally dedicated service to the organization and for her
untiring work in raising funds for Proskurovites who suffered the Pogroms
and the Nazi occupation.

Most of the collateral family members were also members, and officers of
PZS and also of the offshoot "New Nook" society. Why this offshoot was
ever formed is a question I've never been able to answer. It certainly has
nothing to do with any 'shtetl' by that name. A rift between the PZS
members, perhaps?

Ron Goldman, FL.
preshtek@... >>