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re JACOBOWICZ, Bedzin, Poland #poland

Marilyn Glass <mgglass@...>
 

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Hi:

I have recently discovered some new information pertaining to my late =
mother-in-law's father Lipa JACOBOWICZ's occupation.

Lipa who was >from Bedzin had a company that prepared and supplied cloth =
covered buttons to suit manufacturers.

If any of the above sounds familiar, I may be reach at =
mgglass@rogers.com=20

Thank you,

Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS
Toronto, Ontario Canada

Searching: CAPLAN, Bedzin, Poland; GLASS, Sandomierz, Poland; =
JACOBOWICZ, Bedzin, Poland; KLEIN/KLEINER, Pavlinka, Ukraine (formerly =
Russia); LANDAU, Leczyca, Poland; PALATNICK, Pavlinka, Ukraine (formerly =
Russia) and South America; TOBE, Plonsk, Poland; ZYLBERSTEYN, =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Toronto, Ontario&nbsp; =
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JRI Poland #Poland re JACOBOWICZ, Bedzin, Poland #poland

Marilyn Glass <mgglass@...>
 

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Hi:

I have recently discovered some new information pertaining to my late =
mother-in-law's father Lipa JACOBOWICZ's occupation.

Lipa who was >from Bedzin had a company that prepared and supplied cloth =
covered buttons to suit manufacturers.

If any of the above sounds familiar, I may be reach at =
mgglass@rogers.com=20

Thank you,

Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS
Toronto, Ontario Canada

Searching: CAPLAN, Bedzin, Poland; GLASS, Sandomierz, Poland; =
JACOBOWICZ, Bedzin, Poland; KLEIN/KLEINER, Pavlinka, Ukraine (formerly =
Russia); LANDAU, Leczyca, Poland; PALATNICK, Pavlinka, Ukraine (formerly =
Russia) and South America; TOBE, Plonsk, Poland; ZYLBERSTEYN, =
Sandomierz, Poland.






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Re: Wrong SS-5 form #general

Lynne Shapiro <lynneshap@...>
 

I am writing to correct what was stated in a previous posting.
A wife *never* is or was given the same Social Security number
as her spouse. However, a wife who receives Social Security
benefits based on her husband's work, would be given a claim
number that is her husband's number with a "B" at the end.
That number would appear on her Medicare card (once Medicare
started in the mid-1960s), and sometimes family members who
survived her would think it was her Social Security number and
put it on her death certificate as such. A woman who never
worked and paid into Social Security would probably never have
applied for a Social Security number of her own - at least not
until about the 1970s. Or the 1960s if she was applying to get
Medicare under a special program based on her age. It was not
required that a person getting benefits on another person's
record have their own number until about the 1970s.

A man born in 1873 who died in 1950 probably never had a Social
Security number unless he was still working in 1937, in a job
covered under Social Security. But keep in mind that by that
point he was at least 63 years old, and in those days that was
towards the end of the average lifespan. And self-employed people
were not covered under Social Security until 1951.

If husband and wife applied for Social Security numbers at the
same time, they would sometimes get consecutive numbers.

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.


Galati (Romania) 19th Century City Map #general

Arnon Hershkovitz <arnonh@...>
 

Hi!

I'm looking for a city map of Galati city, Galati county,
Romania, >from the mid-late 19th century.

Where can I get such a map online/offline?

Thanks,
Arnon Hershkovitz
Haifa, Israel
arnonh@tx.technion.ac.il

Researching:
HERSHKOVITZ: Romania (Galati) -> Israel (1882), some left to the USA,
France, SA, Australia; JACOBSON: Pinsk (Minsk Gub.), Belarus -> Israel
(1880s); GOLDBERG: Vienne(?) -> Jerusalem (1838), some left to USA,
Paris; LIBMAN: Volochisk & Krasilov, Ukraine (Volhynia Gub.) -> Israel
(1920s); SCHREIER: Orinin, Ukraine (Podolia Gub.) -> Israel (1920s),
Russia, USA; TROP: Grodno -> Israel (mid 19th century).

MODERATOR NOTE: Information about commercial sources should be
sent privately.


"A lurker in the tree" #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sbruckheimer@...>
 

Like most of us. We are just the 'masses' of everyday people.
Doing our best without any fanfare. Some our ancestors have left
us information about what life was like in their own times. How
we preserve that information and pass it along might be our main
contribution to the future.

Sally

... I have a ton of important people in my tree, and I am so
proud of them, but it recently hit me that I myself am nobody;
I just record the deeds of the somebodies in my tree. This
thought came to me when a great man contacted me and introduced
himself to me (as if I didn't know who he was). I felt I had to
tell him about myself, but there wasn't much to tell. I haven't
received any Nobel Prizes or written any 4 volume books, or
fought in any wars, or even survived an epidemic. I'm just a
lurker in the tree...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wrong SS-5 form #general

Lynne Shapiro <lynneshap@...>
 

I am writing to correct what was stated in a previous posting.
A wife *never* is or was given the same Social Security number
as her spouse. However, a wife who receives Social Security
benefits based on her husband's work, would be given a claim
number that is her husband's number with a "B" at the end.
That number would appear on her Medicare card (once Medicare
started in the mid-1960s), and sometimes family members who
survived her would think it was her Social Security number and
put it on her death certificate as such. A woman who never
worked and paid into Social Security would probably never have
applied for a Social Security number of her own - at least not
until about the 1970s. Or the 1960s if she was applying to get
Medicare under a special program based on her age. It was not
required that a person getting benefits on another person's
record have their own number until about the 1970s.

A man born in 1873 who died in 1950 probably never had a Social
Security number unless he was still working in 1937, in a job
covered under Social Security. But keep in mind that by that
point he was at least 63 years old, and in those days that was
towards the end of the average lifespan. And self-employed people
were not covered under Social Security until 1951.

If husband and wife applied for Social Security numbers at the
same time, they would sometimes get consecutive numbers.

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Galati (Romania) 19th Century City Map #general

Arnon Hershkovitz <arnonh@...>
 

Hi!

I'm looking for a city map of Galati city, Galati county,
Romania, >from the mid-late 19th century.

Where can I get such a map online/offline?

Thanks,
Arnon Hershkovitz
Haifa, Israel
arnonh@tx.technion.ac.il

Researching:
HERSHKOVITZ: Romania (Galati) -> Israel (1882), some left to the USA,
France, SA, Australia; JACOBSON: Pinsk (Minsk Gub.), Belarus -> Israel
(1880s); GOLDBERG: Vienne(?) -> Jerusalem (1838), some left to USA,
Paris; LIBMAN: Volochisk & Krasilov, Ukraine (Volhynia Gub.) -> Israel
(1920s); SCHREIER: Orinin, Ukraine (Podolia Gub.) -> Israel (1920s),
Russia, USA; TROP: Grodno -> Israel (mid 19th century).

MODERATOR NOTE: Information about commercial sources should be
sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "A lurker in the tree" #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sbruckheimer@...>
 

Like most of us. We are just the 'masses' of everyday people.
Doing our best without any fanfare. Some our ancestors have left
us information about what life was like in their own times. How
we preserve that information and pass it along might be our main
contribution to the future.

Sally

... I have a ton of important people in my tree, and I am so
proud of them, but it recently hit me that I myself am nobody;
I just record the deeds of the somebodies in my tree. This
thought came to me when a great man contacted me and introduced
himself to me (as if I didn't know who he was). I felt I had to
tell him about myself, but there wasn't much to tell. I haven't
received any Nobel Prizes or written any 4 volume books, or
fought in any wars, or even survived an epidemic. I'm just a
lurker in the tree...


[JG] England birth records #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Frank,

Civil registration in England and Wales began in July 1837.
It was usual for the child to be registered under the father's
surname. The mother's maiden name would also be listed in the
column where it asked for the particulars of the mother.

If you live near a Mormon Family History Center, you can order
the relevant film >from Salt Lake City. The Mormons have microfilmed
the General Register Office's National Indexes to Births, Marriages
and Deaths, >from 1837 up to 1983.

If you don't know the actual month, as the National Index is
compiled at quarterly intervals, you may need to order more than
one quarter, because if the birth occurred within six weeks of the
end of one quarter, the registration might appear in the next
quarter. This situation can also occur with Deaths, but *not*
Marriages. All marriages are recorded in the quarter they took place.

Good luck,

Jeremy Frankel
President
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

Can someone please tell me if an 1890 birth record in London,
England would be listed on the father's surname or the mother's
maiden name? Thank you.

Frank Morgan
New Mexico


Re: Jewish (German) Soldiers in WWI #general

marcelo rosenbaum <marcelo@...>
 

One very good place where to start this research, although
restricted to Jewish-Bavarian soldiers who died in WWI, is
http://www.historiker.de/projekte/hdbg/kriegsgraeber/english/

Rgds
Marcelo Rosenbaum marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

searching for:
DURLACHER (Frankenthal), KAHN (Altenstadt, Osterberg), KRAMER
(Walldorf) MORGENSTERN (Buechenbach). NEUBURGER (Ichenhausen),
RIESER (Laupheim), ROSENBAUM (Nuernberg, Wonfurt), VANDEWART
(Lendershausen, Neustadt a.d. Saale, Nuernberg), WASSERMANN
(Laupheim), WILHERMSDOERFER (Ansbach, Gunzenhausen).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [JG] England birth records #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Frank,

Civil registration in England and Wales began in July 1837.
It was usual for the child to be registered under the father's
surname. The mother's maiden name would also be listed in the
column where it asked for the particulars of the mother.

If you live near a Mormon Family History Center, you can order
the relevant film >from Salt Lake City. The Mormons have microfilmed
the General Register Office's National Indexes to Births, Marriages
and Deaths, >from 1837 up to 1983.

If you don't know the actual month, as the National Index is
compiled at quarterly intervals, you may need to order more than
one quarter, because if the birth occurred within six weeks of the
end of one quarter, the registration might appear in the next
quarter. This situation can also occur with Deaths, but *not*
Marriages. All marriages are recorded in the quarter they took place.

Good luck,

Jeremy Frankel
President
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

Can someone please tell me if an 1890 birth record in London,
England would be listed on the father's surname or the mother's
maiden name? Thank you.

Frank Morgan
New Mexico


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish (German) Soldiers in WWI #general

marcelo rosenbaum <marcelo@...>
 

One very good place where to start this research, although
restricted to Jewish-Bavarian soldiers who died in WWI, is
http://www.historiker.de/projekte/hdbg/kriegsgraeber/english/

Rgds
Marcelo Rosenbaum marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

searching for:
DURLACHER (Frankenthal), KAHN (Altenstadt, Osterberg), KRAMER
(Walldorf) MORGENSTERN (Buechenbach). NEUBURGER (Ichenhausen),
RIESER (Laupheim), ROSENBAUM (Nuernberg, Wonfurt), VANDEWART
(Lendershausen, Neustadt a.d. Saale, Nuernberg), WASSERMANN
(Laupheim), WILHERMSDOERFER (Ansbach, Gunzenhausen).


Re: Jews in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada #general

Adrian Lentz (Personal) <adrian_l@...>
 

Hello,

This is my first note to the list & I am a total amatuer
doing this family research so please excuse the clumsiness
of this communication....

My father, Edward Wilhelm (later changed by his mother to
William) LENTZ was born in Hamilton in 1936 & lived there
(& environs) until he entered boot camp 1952. He lived with
what he thought to be his father, Michael Maryan Lukoszaytys
(now thought to be one of a number of stepfathers he & his
siblings & half siblings had over their lifetimes), a Lithuanian
immigrant that must have hailed >from somewhere close to the
Polish frontier due to the spelling of the name. (Lukoszaytys
(& Lithuanian translations, etc.) seem to be an incredibly rare
-- I've spent months trying to find references to the name).
My father now believes his birth father was Samuel Lentz, a
Russian immigrant who married his mother, Christine Duflot
(Dufloth/Duflott) in Alberta in 1921 (date unsure, maybe 1914).

My gm was very secretive whenever by father asked about family
roots, to the extent of regularly manually altering marriage &
birth certificates, changing my father's name without his
permission at age 16, & refusing to answer questions (gm died
at age 94(92??) in 1990). I don't believe Samuel Lentz ever
lived in Hamilton. The only Canadian record I can find on the
Internet is a Samuel Lentz who shows up on a Alberta county
archive list >from (I think) the 1940s that lists him & a son as
residents.

I'm having the same frustration about the lack of Canadian
immigration sources online as an earlier list member. Wondering
whether Sam Lentz may have landed in the US before moving to the
US Midwest / Cdn Prairie provinces (gm was born in North Dakota &
I speculate a member of a South Dakota colony of Dufloths), I
checked EIDB for Samuel Lentz (& variants) where the ages might
match up. The only reasonable match is a Samuel Lentzky (age 9
in 1903) who landed Sep 1, 1903 on the Kronprinz Wilhelm out
of Bremen with his father Abraham Lentzky. Unfortunately, the
ship's manifest for that sailing of the Kronprinz is not available
online so I have no other info. The Lentzky family is listed as
Russian Jews residing in Warsaw. I went looking for Lentzky's on
PRI-Poland but can find absolutely no record of Lentzky (or any
variant I can decipher) among any of the records >from the late
19th C. on PRI-P. In EIDB I found some variants on Lentz, given
name Samuel, but their countries of origin & ages don't match
with the info on my gm's marriage certificate

I would certainly like to hear >from anyone researching Russian
Lentz's (or variants) who, >from the info above, might link with my
father's family. I am particularly interested in trying to identify
where in Russia my gf Sam Lentz may have originated (Country but
not town of origin is on marriage certificate). Any clues greatly
appreciated.

Adrian Lentz
adrian_L@telus.net

Researching: Lentz / Lentzky (& variants) (Russia / possibly
resided in Poland / known residence in North America: province of
Alberta Canada) Lukoszaytys (& variants) (Lithuania / Poland /
known residence in North America: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada)

Hello Group,
I would be pleased to hear >from residents in Hamilton Ontario
Canada or relatives, who have done or are engaged in family
searches of ancestors who came >from Russia and settled in
Hamilton (environs) during the early part of the twentieth
century. I am recommencing my search for information about
my grandparents, who arrived in Hamilton around 1905 (I think),
and became known within the Jewish community. They, along with
some of their children are resting in Hamilton's Jewish cemetery.


Family Reunion #general

raphael c greenspon
 

I was wondering if someone out there in Jewish Genealogy Land
could give me some guidance, advice, suggestions, ideas on
planing an Inaugural Family Reunion. I have never attended one
and am interested in having one. How do I come to a happy median
with observant and non observant "mishpocha".
TIG
Raphael Greenspon
Researching: GREENSPON, LIPNICK, SHERESHEVSKY, BERONOVITCH,
LIPNICK, NEVAISER, KURLAND, SCHABES, SHWINDLER


Searching Moritz Zomepfeld (Zomerfeld?) #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

I received a page of testimony >from Yad Vashem for an Awraham
Ajzan while doing a search for Eisen. The connection between
the towns of Tyzcyn in Poland and Nagyvarad in Hungary ( now
Romania) seem too much of a coincidence to not be related to
my grandfather's family and both are mentioned.Since I have
noted that the name Eisen appears on the list of surnames to
be indexed in Tyczyn, is Ajzan a different name, or would it
be the Polish spelling of Eisen? We know my grandfather lived
in Tyczyn but had a brother in Nagyvarad. The page was filled
out by a nephew ( son of Awraham's sister) and his name is
Moritz Zomepfeld ( or as close to that name as the person who
looked it up for me could get). It listed Awraham's father's
name as Khaim (Chaim was my great-grandfather's name). The page
was submitted in 1956. Does anyone know how I might institute a
search for this man, assuming he is still alive? Leslie


Catchy Subject Lines #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Michael Bernet wrote: "Please folk, again, subject lines aren't
there for you to be cute."

I couldn't help wondering if he was referring to me. With all
due respect, I take some time devising, 'cute,' subject lines,
in hopes they will catch peoples' eyes, make them want to read
my postings and respond. I seem to get good results with this
method and plan to continue.

Varda Epstein
Efrat
Israel


Bialykaminer Aid Society #general

larry denzer <larrydenzer@...>
 

On January 1907 my father, David Danzer (Denzer) landed on
these shores with his fiancee and settled in the lower east
side of Manhattan, New York which was referred to as "Little
Galitzia" because of the confluence of Galician Jewish emigres.
I lived on Cannon St. until I was 10 years old when we moved
to Brooklyn. Shortly after, all the tenement buildings were
razed to make room for The Lillian Wald Housing Development
and all the immigrant residents were forced to vacate for parts
unknown. At the turn of the century and after Galicians settling
there got together and formled farbands for faternalism and a
means of maintaining their culture, religion and family values
emanating >from their individual shtetls. Ostensibly, their
raison d'etre was to raise funds for their less fortunate families
and relations they had left behind in the shtetls. As far as
I can remember, my father was the ongoing secretary/treasurer
for his organization, "The Bialykaminer Aid Society". (We also
belonged to "The Parnes Family Assoc." as my mothers mlaiden name
was Parnes.) The society was named tfor the little town, Bialykamen
in Galicia, Poland where he came from. Formerly owned by Austria
it had the German name and spelling but now it is called Belyy
Kamen in Ukraine which is somewhat near Lviv, Ukraine also formerly
called Lemberg, Poland. My father was the society's last official
president and for all the continuing years that he was able he
continued to make funeral arrangements for all his past friends
and families.

For those interested the society bought two burial plots in Queens,
N. Y. for it's members and families. One is The Mt. Zion Cemetery
where my uncle is buried right next to the gravesite of Hertzel
Ingber, the author of Hatikva, whose remains were moved to israel.
The tall tombstone still stands. After World War I when Mt. Zion
became overcrowded Montifiore Cemetery was used. The Lubavitcher
Rebbe is also buried there. It is well kept and as I walk through
it each year, visiting my family, old familiar names pop out at me
from the stones.
Thank You,
larrydenzer@mybluelight.com


Re: 1930 Census - married but not at "home" #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Yes, I had a similar situation where the information was way
off in the 1930 Brooklyn census for my Mom and Dad. (sigh)

I was so excited to have an address for my NY 1930 parent's home.
I particularly wanted it to show my sister who was 4 years old at
the time as I thought she'd get a kick out of that. I knew I
wouldn't be listed as I was in utero, but it is the same address
on my birth certificate so I know the address is correct.

So, when I got to the page, here is how it was listed by Mildred
Jones #1659 page 9-A ED74-1923 and Supervisor's District #32.

Ernest Pinkus Head age 27
Selma Pinkus Wife age 27
but *no* sister Lucille Pinkus age 4 instead it showed:
Ernest Pinkus age 10 son
Selma Pinkus age 8 daughter.
Anita Baylor, a servant and interestingly there were several
areas whited out. Those areas pertained to citizenship, language,
etc. and one good thing another Pinkus name.

Good in the fact that it gives me another name I didn't have.
It's possible that the two children might have been related to
the other Pinkus, but my Uncle Irv had two daughters not a son
and daughter. Plus the Pinkus listed is a Julius Pinkus. I have
a younger cousin name Jules, who may have been named after the
"mysterious" Julius. So far no info about Julius, but I will
continue my search and see what I can find.

Joan Parker
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and
Brooklyn, NY; PINKUS and WINOGRAD-Odessa, Ukraine and Brooklyn,
NY; GELFAND-Minsk and Bronx, NY; YEHUDIS; KATZ, Bronx, NY

I have a potentially frustrating puzzle I wonder if anyone
else has come across in the 1930 census. Specifically, I am
researching Brooklyn, NY, and this may be limited to the
enumerator for the area I am researching. The enumerator was
a Harry FINKELSTEIN and the Enumeration District was #1454.

The family I am researching, Abraham and Fanny BARNETT, were
living at 3734 Laurel Avenue, Brooklyn, New York. They are
listed with their two grown-up children. The daughter, Lillian,
is listed as 27 years, married at 18 and status as married. Her
brother, Lawrence, is 24, married at 15 (a mistake, it should
be 20) and also listed as married. In the case of Lillian, she
is listed under her maiden, not married name. In both cases I
am stymied as I cannot find their families in the 1930 census!
The closest city directory was issued in 1933 and while Lawrence
is listed at a different address, I checked the 1930 census but
his family was not living there in 1930.

This is not an isolated case - at least on this page. A few
doors away at 3745, one finds the ABELSON family; Max and Ginnie,
along with their eight grown-up children. There are five daughters
and three sons. The youngest is 25 and all are married (one for
sixteen years!) save the youngest daughter who is 30 years old.
None of the children's families are listed, so one presumes that
they all lived elsewhere. Again, all four married daughters are
are listed under their maiden name!

has anyone else come across this situation?

Jeremy Frankel
(ex Edgware, London, England)
Oakland, California, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Jews in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada #general

Adrian Lentz (Personal) <adrian_l@...>
 

Hello,

This is my first note to the list & I am a total amatuer
doing this family research so please excuse the clumsiness
of this communication....

My father, Edward Wilhelm (later changed by his mother to
William) LENTZ was born in Hamilton in 1936 & lived there
(& environs) until he entered boot camp 1952. He lived with
what he thought to be his father, Michael Maryan Lukoszaytys
(now thought to be one of a number of stepfathers he & his
siblings & half siblings had over their lifetimes), a Lithuanian
immigrant that must have hailed >from somewhere close to the
Polish frontier due to the spelling of the name. (Lukoszaytys
(& Lithuanian translations, etc.) seem to be an incredibly rare
-- I've spent months trying to find references to the name).
My father now believes his birth father was Samuel Lentz, a
Russian immigrant who married his mother, Christine Duflot
(Dufloth/Duflott) in Alberta in 1921 (date unsure, maybe 1914).

My gm was very secretive whenever by father asked about family
roots, to the extent of regularly manually altering marriage &
birth certificates, changing my father's name without his
permission at age 16, & refusing to answer questions (gm died
at age 94(92??) in 1990). I don't believe Samuel Lentz ever
lived in Hamilton. The only Canadian record I can find on the
Internet is a Samuel Lentz who shows up on a Alberta county
archive list >from (I think) the 1940s that lists him & a son as
residents.

I'm having the same frustration about the lack of Canadian
immigration sources online as an earlier list member. Wondering
whether Sam Lentz may have landed in the US before moving to the
US Midwest / Cdn Prairie provinces (gm was born in North Dakota &
I speculate a member of a South Dakota colony of Dufloths), I
checked EIDB for Samuel Lentz (& variants) where the ages might
match up. The only reasonable match is a Samuel Lentzky (age 9
in 1903) who landed Sep 1, 1903 on the Kronprinz Wilhelm out
of Bremen with his father Abraham Lentzky. Unfortunately, the
ship's manifest for that sailing of the Kronprinz is not available
online so I have no other info. The Lentzky family is listed as
Russian Jews residing in Warsaw. I went looking for Lentzky's on
PRI-Poland but can find absolutely no record of Lentzky (or any
variant I can decipher) among any of the records >from the late
19th C. on PRI-P. In EIDB I found some variants on Lentz, given
name Samuel, but their countries of origin & ages don't match
with the info on my gm's marriage certificate

I would certainly like to hear >from anyone researching Russian
Lentz's (or variants) who, >from the info above, might link with my
father's family. I am particularly interested in trying to identify
where in Russia my gf Sam Lentz may have originated (Country but
not town of origin is on marriage certificate). Any clues greatly
appreciated.

Adrian Lentz
adrian_L@telus.net

Researching: Lentz / Lentzky (& variants) (Russia / possibly
resided in Poland / known residence in North America: province of
Alberta Canada) Lukoszaytys (& variants) (Lithuania / Poland /
known residence in North America: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada)

Hello Group,
I would be pleased to hear >from residents in Hamilton Ontario
Canada or relatives, who have done or are engaged in family
searches of ancestors who came >from Russia and settled in
Hamilton (environs) during the early part of the twentieth
century. I am recommencing my search for information about
my grandparents, who arrived in Hamilton around 1905 (I think),
and became known within the Jewish community. They, along with
some of their children are resting in Hamilton's Jewish cemetery.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family Reunion #general

raphael c greenspon
 

I was wondering if someone out there in Jewish Genealogy Land
could give me some guidance, advice, suggestions, ideas on
planing an Inaugural Family Reunion. I have never attended one
and am interested in having one. How do I come to a happy median
with observant and non observant "mishpocha".
TIG
Raphael Greenspon
Researching: GREENSPON, LIPNICK, SHERESHEVSKY, BERONOVITCH,
LIPNICK, NEVAISER, KURLAND, SCHABES, SHWINDLER