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JewishGenMall Has Portraits of Our Past: Jews of the German Countryside #germany

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Those of you who may have recently read Bill Gladstone's favorable review of
Emily C. Rose's book "Portraits of Our Past: Jews of the German
Countryside" in the Fall 2002 edition of "Avotaynu" will be pleased to learn
that the book is and has been on the JewishGenMall for quite some time.

It is now available at a special pre-Chanukah sale price of $19.95(It's
list price is $24.95.) Find the Mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org notice
our brand new front page and simply type in JPS022 (our code number) in the
"Title" location and you will get full details.

This price is only good through December 6th, so hurry and get your order in
now.

Happy Chanukah!

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


German SIG #Germany JewishGenMall Has Portraits of Our Past: Jews of the German Countryside #germany

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Those of you who may have recently read Bill Gladstone's favorable review of
Emily C. Rose's book "Portraits of Our Past: Jews of the German
Countryside" in the Fall 2002 edition of "Avotaynu" will be pleased to learn
that the book is and has been on the JewishGenMall for quite some time.

It is now available at a special pre-Chanukah sale price of $19.95(It's
list price is $24.95.) Find the Mall at http://www.jewishgenmall.org notice
our brand new front page and simply type in JPS022 (our code number) in the
"Title" location and you will get full details.

This price is only good through December 6th, so hurry and get your order in
now.

Happy Chanukah!

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall


Re: MIELZINER in Denmark #scandinavia

Allan Falk <salfalk@...>
 

Yes, I have some Mielziners, apparently belonging to 2 different
families, could you be more specific about the persons you are looking
for?

Best regards

Allan Falk

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: davidmjacobs [mailto:davidmjacobs@shaw.ca]
Sendt: 15. november 2002 02:16
Til: Scandinavia
Emne: [scandinavia] MIELZINER in Denmark

Anyone else have the MIELZINER family in Denmark (originally from
Poland)
in their family tree, late nineteenth century?

Genealogically yours,
David Jacobs
---------------------------------------


Re: Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and Family #scandinavia

Allan Falk <salfalk@...>
 

Dear Melissa,
I can inform you, that a book was written about your family, "Sl=E6gten
Wulff fra Fredericia og Randers" 1953, containing also information about
Wulff Joseph Wulff, assistent under the danish government on the
Guinea-cost. The book contains information of more than 1500 persons!

If you can adopt GEDCOM-files I can send you all the information I have
written down >from the book, or parts of it, as you prefer.=20

I would on my part be happy, if you could give me more information of
Wulff Joseph Wulffs descendants.

Looking forward to hearing >from you and with best regards

Allan Falk

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Melissa Mensah [mailto:naatakyiwa@hotmail.com]=20
Sendt: 15. november 2002 11:12
Til: Scandinavia
Emne: [scandinavia] Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and
Family

My name is Melissa. My father's name was Frantz Wulff-Tagoe. He was the
descendant of a Danish Jewish Civil Servant named Wulff Joseph Carl
WULFF, who settled in the Danish Colony, the Gold Coast, West Africa in
the mid-1800's.
...snip...
-------------------------------


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia SV: MIELZINER in Denmark #scandinavia

Allan Falk <salfalk@...>
 

Yes, I have some Mielziners, apparently belonging to 2 different
families, could you be more specific about the persons you are looking
for?

Best regards

Allan Falk

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: davidmjacobs [mailto:davidmjacobs@shaw.ca]
Sendt: 15. november 2002 02:16
Til: Scandinavia
Emne: [scandinavia] MIELZINER in Denmark

Anyone else have the MIELZINER family in Denmark (originally from
Poland)
in their family tree, late nineteenth century?

Genealogically yours,
David Jacobs
---------------------------------------


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia SV: Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and Family #scandinavia

Allan Falk <salfalk@...>
 

Dear Melissa,
I can inform you, that a book was written about your family, "Sl=E6gten
Wulff fra Fredericia og Randers" 1953, containing also information about
Wulff Joseph Wulff, assistent under the danish government on the
Guinea-cost. The book contains information of more than 1500 persons!

If you can adopt GEDCOM-files I can send you all the information I have
written down >from the book, or parts of it, as you prefer.=20

I would on my part be happy, if you could give me more information of
Wulff Joseph Wulffs descendants.

Looking forward to hearing >from you and with best regards

Allan Falk

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Melissa Mensah [mailto:naatakyiwa@hotmail.com]=20
Sendt: 15. november 2002 11:12
Til: Scandinavia
Emne: [scandinavia] Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and
Family

My name is Melissa. My father's name was Frantz Wulff-Tagoe. He was the
descendant of a Danish Jewish Civil Servant named Wulff Joseph Carl
WULFF, who settled in the Danish Colony, the Gold Coast, West Africa in
the mid-1800's.
...snip...
-------------------------------


Re: Immigration from Britain by ship #general

Harvey Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

Diane etc

The search for passenger manifests in London is not too simple!

Try their website first:

http://www.pro.gov.uk/

The passenger manifests are filed year by year, then by port.
They are not indexed. There is a book of ships names etc, which
might help you. Try one of the info files on Jewishgen (think
the book is Morton-Allen?).

If you know the year, can guess the port correctly, and are
prepared to sift through the boxes of manifests, there is a
possibility of success.

good luck & best wishes

Harvey

Hello Harvey:

Where can I get an address or email address for the PRO in Kew, London?

I have an Uncle who stated on his Naturalization papers that his last
residence was London. He landed in Halifax, Nova Scotia in 1901. Would I
be able to find out the name of the ship? I know he didn't walk on water
although I surely would like to think that he had that capability.

Diane Pressman Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL
dlfrankel@mindspring.com
MODERATOR NOTE: You can find a list of JewishGen InfoFiles at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/


Translation Needed for Yiddish or Russian 3 Words #general

Deborah.Scheimer@...
 

Dear GENers,

There are 3 other words that are confusing me >from the diary
of our distant ancestor. This diary was probably written in
Russian around 1900 in Berdichev. There are also Yiddish words
in it. It contains many explanations of Jewish customs >from
the time that are most interesting.

The first word is "kustarnichestvu" and I'm including the
context below in case it might be helpful:

"Accustomed to kustarnichestvu, an easy home trade where they
could freely exploit somebody else's labor, mostly teenagers..."

The second confusing word is "podpevatelyami" and the context is:

"once more fuelling with hate against themselves and against
all Jews the ruling circus (authorities) with anti-Semitism,
the compulsive reactionary-podpevatelyami"

The third word is "kazuistika" and the context is:

"And a simple calculateless story/tale would tell much more to
my child's heart than kazuistika of the Eastern fanatics."

Thank you so much,

Deborah SCHEIMER, deborah.scheimer@alltel.com
RUDICK, Belilovka, Russia (Ukraine) -> Pittsburgh, PA 1904-1912
PERVIN, Berdichev & Zhitomir -> Pittsburgh, PA 1892-1917
GUNDESHEIMER, Meinstocheim, Germany --> Pittsburgh, PA 1910-1920
BINSTOCK changed to BEAN, Germany --> Boston, MA 1910-1920?
Also looking for: BREAN, COOPER, GORALNIK or GOROWSKI, HOFFMAN,
ISENBERG, JACOBSON, KLINKENSTEIN, KRIEGER, MELMAN, MENZER, NUDELMAN,
[list truncated at allowable six lines]


1930 Census - married but not at "home" #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

I have a potentially frustrating puzzle I wonder if anyone
else has come across in the 1930 census. Specifically, I am
researching Brooklyn, NY, and this may be limited to the
enumerator for the area I am researching. The enumerator was
a Harry FINKELSTEIN and the Enumeration District was #1454.

The family I am researching, Abraham and Fanny BARNETT, were
living at 3734 Laurel Avenue, Brooklyn, New York. They are
listed with their two grown-up children. The daughter, Lillian,
is listed as 27 years, married at 18 and status as married. Her
brother, Lawrence, is 24, married at 15 (a mistake, it should
be 20) and also listed as married. In the case of Lillian, she
is listed under her maiden, not married name. In both cases I
am stymied as I cannot find their families in the 1930 census!
The closest city directory was issued in 1933 and while Lawrence
is listed at a different address, I checked the 1930 census but
his family was not living there in 1930.

This is not an isolated case - at least on this page. A few
doors away at 3745, one finds the ABELSON family; Max and Ginnie,
along with their eight grown-up children. There are five daughters
and three sons. The youngest is 25 and all are married (one for
sixteen years!) save the youngest daughter who is 30 years old.
None of the children's families are listed, so one presumes that
they all lived elsewhere. Again, all four married daughters are
are listed under their maiden name!

has anyone else come across this situation?

Jeremy Frankel
(ex Edgware, London, England)
Oakland, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Immigration from Britain by ship #general

Harvey Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

Diane etc

The search for passenger manifests in London is not too simple!

Try their website first:

http://www.pro.gov.uk/

The passenger manifests are filed year by year, then by port.
They are not indexed. There is a book of ships names etc, which
might help you. Try one of the info files on Jewishgen (think
the book is Morton-Allen?).

If you know the year, can guess the port correctly, and are
prepared to sift through the boxes of manifests, there is a
possibility of success.

good luck & best wishes

Harvey

Hello Harvey:

Where can I get an address or email address for the PRO in Kew, London?

I have an Uncle who stated on his Naturalization papers that his last
residence was London. He landed in Halifax, Nova Scotia in 1901. Would I
be able to find out the name of the ship? I know he didn't walk on water
although I surely would like to think that he had that capability.

Diane Pressman Frankel
North Miami Beach, FL
dlfrankel@mindspring.com
MODERATOR NOTE: You can find a list of JewishGen InfoFiles at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation Needed for Yiddish or Russian 3 Words #general

Deborah.Scheimer@...
 

Dear GENers,

There are 3 other words that are confusing me >from the diary
of our distant ancestor. This diary was probably written in
Russian around 1900 in Berdichev. There are also Yiddish words
in it. It contains many explanations of Jewish customs >from
the time that are most interesting.

The first word is "kustarnichestvu" and I'm including the
context below in case it might be helpful:

"Accustomed to kustarnichestvu, an easy home trade where they
could freely exploit somebody else's labor, mostly teenagers..."

The second confusing word is "podpevatelyami" and the context is:

"once more fuelling with hate against themselves and against
all Jews the ruling circus (authorities) with anti-Semitism,
the compulsive reactionary-podpevatelyami"

The third word is "kazuistika" and the context is:

"And a simple calculateless story/tale would tell much more to
my child's heart than kazuistika of the Eastern fanatics."

Thank you so much,

Deborah SCHEIMER, deborah.scheimer@alltel.com
RUDICK, Belilovka, Russia (Ukraine) -> Pittsburgh, PA 1904-1912
PERVIN, Berdichev & Zhitomir -> Pittsburgh, PA 1892-1917
GUNDESHEIMER, Meinstocheim, Germany --> Pittsburgh, PA 1910-1920
BINSTOCK changed to BEAN, Germany --> Boston, MA 1910-1920?
Also looking for: BREAN, COOPER, GORALNIK or GOROWSKI, HOFFMAN,
ISENBERG, JACOBSON, KLINKENSTEIN, KRIEGER, MELMAN, MENZER, NUDELMAN,
[list truncated at allowable six lines]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1930 Census - married but not at "home" #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

I have a potentially frustrating puzzle I wonder if anyone
else has come across in the 1930 census. Specifically, I am
researching Brooklyn, NY, and this may be limited to the
enumerator for the area I am researching. The enumerator was
a Harry FINKELSTEIN and the Enumeration District was #1454.

The family I am researching, Abraham and Fanny BARNETT, were
living at 3734 Laurel Avenue, Brooklyn, New York. They are
listed with their two grown-up children. The daughter, Lillian,
is listed as 27 years, married at 18 and status as married. Her
brother, Lawrence, is 24, married at 15 (a mistake, it should
be 20) and also listed as married. In the case of Lillian, she
is listed under her maiden, not married name. In both cases I
am stymied as I cannot find their families in the 1930 census!
The closest city directory was issued in 1933 and while Lawrence
is listed at a different address, I checked the 1930 census but
his family was not living there in 1930.

This is not an isolated case - at least on this page. A few
doors away at 3745, one finds the ABELSON family; Max and Ginnie,
along with their eight grown-up children. There are five daughters
and three sons. The youngest is 25 and all are married (one for
sixteen years!) save the youngest daughter who is 30 years old.
None of the children's families are listed, so one presumes that
they all lived elsewhere. Again, all four married daughters are
are listed under their maiden name!

has anyone else come across this situation?

Jeremy Frankel
(ex Edgware, London, England)
Oakland, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA


Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and Family #scandinavia

Melissa Mensah <naatakyiwa@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Melissa. My father's name was Frantz Wulff-Tagoe. He
was the descendant of a Danish Jewish Civil Servant named Wulff
Joseph Carl WULFF, who settled in the Danish Colony, the Gold
Coast, West Africa in the mid-1800's.

I was told, he made the choice to remain in Ghana after the Danish
Government refused to promote him because he was Jewish. He went on
to marry a Ghanaian woman, and is buried at the family home in Accra.

I have recenly been able to locate a living, Danish direct descendant
of WJ Wulff and we are interested in learning more about the other
Wulff family still living in Denmark. I understand some of our Danish
relatives have visited the family home in Ghana.

If you have any information you can share with us, we would be very
grateful.

Thank you
Melissa Kankam


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Looking for Descendents of Wulff Joseph Wulff and Family #scandinavia

Melissa Mensah <naatakyiwa@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Melissa. My father's name was Frantz Wulff-Tagoe. He
was the descendant of a Danish Jewish Civil Servant named Wulff
Joseph Carl WULFF, who settled in the Danish Colony, the Gold
Coast, West Africa in the mid-1800's.

I was told, he made the choice to remain in Ghana after the Danish
Government refused to promote him because he was Jewish. He went on
to marry a Ghanaian woman, and is buried at the family home in Accra.

I have recenly been able to locate a living, Danish direct descendant
of WJ Wulff and we are interested in learning more about the other
Wulff family still living in Denmark. I understand some of our Danish
relatives have visited the family home in Ghana.

If you have any information you can share with us, we would be very
grateful.

Thank you
Melissa Kankam


Re: Suczawa, Austria 1890's: Modern name/place? #general

Stan Goodman <safeqNOT_HERE@...>
 

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:14:13 UTC, jg2333@msn.com (JANICE GOLDMAN)
opined:

Dear Jewishgenners:
Do you know what the modern name and place for Suczawa,
Austria would be?
Thank you.
This has to be Suceava, which is now in the northeast portion of
Romania. The Romanian spelling is pronounced exactly as the Polish
one that you site in your query. In other words, the name has not
changed at all.

At the time you are asking about, this area, called Bucovina, was
in eastern Galicia, which belonged to the Autro-Hungarian Empire,
thus your information that it was in Austria.

I visited the town in October; quite an attractive place, very
leafy and green, and bustling.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please remove the capital letters >from my address in order to
send me email.


Trying to contact Edward Ball from North Warren, Pa. #general

Ralph Salinger <salinger@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Can anybody help to contact Ed Ball, we used to correspond by
regular mail so I only have his address in North Warren Pa.

I have some interesting developments and wish to speak to him
by phone, I have tried various People Searches and the phone
company here in Israel but I can find no trace of him.

Ed if you read this please contact me at salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il

I have made some amazing discoveries !

Ralph Salinger
Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin
salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il


Re: Trying to decipher 1880 census #general

Polly Held <phheld@...>
 

What state? What county? What city, town?

Someone was kins enough to send me a copy of the 1880 NY
censusThe page no. is 4, supervisor's district 1, ED # 145.

I'm wondering if anyone out there who has access to this can
tell me what the Street name is, and what the last 3 columns
ask for. It's hard to decipher.

Thanks,
Susan Stock
Agoura Hills,Ca


Finding Spanish American War Veteran Information #general

richard may
 

Dear Jewishgen community,

I just learned >from the 1930 census that an ancestor
who resided in New York State was a veteran of the
Spanish American War.

Do any of you know how to find out more details of his
service >from internet databases,publications or
government archives?

Thank you your help!

Richard May < ferdlilac@yahoo.com >
Buffalo,New York,USA


Searching Descendants of Max HELLMAN #general

rlberliner@...
 

I am posting this for cousins who are great grandchildren of
Max HELLMAN. Annie JACOBS, his wife, was my aunt.

We believe Max came >from Latvia as the census taker wrote he
was >from Riga. His parents were Samuel and Augusta HELLMAN.
He was married to Annie JACOBS who was born in England and was
the daughter of Joseph and Rachel JACOBS. Her family first
migrated >from London to Baltimore, MD .Max & Annie migrated
from New York or Baltimore to Atlanta, GA.
Max had a sister whose name according to family lore was Mary
Birkhan* and she lived in the Bronx, NY at one time.
Mary's daughter was Gussie FRIEBERG.
Gussie's daughter, Ruth, married a Dr. FOX.
Gussie also had a son, Milton FRIEBERG.
There was a Rabbi FRIEBERG in Bay Ridge in Brooklyn whose niece
may have been related to the HELLMAN family.
There are supposedly additional nieces of Max HELLMAN who once
resided in the East New York area of Brooklyn.

Max HELLMAN was born in 1862 and married Annie JACOBS 11/14/1886.
He died in Atlanta, GA on 12/27/1935 and is buried in Greenwood
Cemetery, Atlanta. Facts >from his obituary were printed as follows:
1. He was a tailor who had emigrated >from Russia
2. He was prominent in local Jewish affairs.
3. Two daughters: Miss Frances HELLMAN and Mrs. (Leah) Nathan
WOLFF (NYC)
4. 4 sons: Abraham Joseph ("Abe") HELLMAN of Chester, S.C.;
Jacob J. ("Jim") HELLMAN of Atlanta, Elias and William HELLMAN
of Spring Valley, N.Y.
5. One sister: Mrs. Mary BICKHANN*, NYC
* Mary's surname could also have been BIRKHAN(N) and/or Mary FINEBERG.

Thanks in advance to all who may be able to help us find Uncle Max
HELLMAN's descendants and any other helpful information.

Please reply privately to: rlberliner@comcast.net

Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
Searching: HELLMAN, BICKHANN/BIRKHANN, FRIEBERG, FINEBERG, FOX
from Riga, Brooklyn, NY, NYC


Mathematics of genealogy #general

Rich Lowenthal <richlowenthal@...>
 

The mathematics of genealogy means that if you go back far
enough, most of us are related to most historical personages,
and the further back you go the greater the chances you're a
direct descendant of a specific (fertile) person. In other
words, there's nothing particularly notable about being a
descendant of William the Conqueror. It is estimated that if
you go back far enough, you will find you are related to
around 5/6 of the people then living.

For anyone whose family has been Jewish for any length of time,
it's even more likely that you're related to famous Jews--most
of us are probably related to Rashi, Josephus, Maimonides,
Philo, and Judah Maccabee, not to mention David.

You'll find more information on this in "The Mountain of Names:
A History of the Human Family," by Alex Shoumatoff, a fascinating
work for anyone interested in genealogy.

- Rich Lowenthal