Hello Friends
I was excited to receive my fathers resume as he was applying for a job in
the "Magistrat city of Plock". In it he mentions He finished "szkole realna"
in Wloclawek and Mantinband's bookkeeping classes (kursy buchalteryjne) in
Lodz.
Then he goes on "I practiced as a bookkeeper apprentice in Lodz for the Firm
Leon Rapoport and son. ( dom Handlowo Expedycyjny ) (in the year 1916)"
Is anybody familiar with this school or business? Is any of it mentioned
anywhere that I may be able to look up?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com

Dear Jewishgenners:
I am seeking to locate the descendants of the following
GOLDBERG/GOLDENBERG/GOLDEMBERG families:
- Hannah
- David
- Jack
- Maurice (or Morris)
- Sarina (or similar)
- Esther
They were >from Romania/Turkey.
Thank you very much.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

Hello Friends
I was excited to receive my fathers resume as he was applying for a job in
the "Magistrat city of Plock". In it he mentions He finished "szkole realna"
in Wloclawek and Mantinband's bookkeeping classes (kursy buchalteryjne) in
Lodz.
Then he goes on "I practiced as a bookkeeper apprentice in Lodz for the Firm
Leon Rapoport and son. ( dom Handlowo Expedycyjny ) (in the year 1916)"
Is anybody familiar with this school or business? Is any of it mentioned
anywhere that I may be able to look up?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com

Dear Jewishgenners:
I am seeking to locate the descendants of the following
GOLDBERG/GOLDENBERG/GOLDEMBERG families:
- Hannah
- David
- Jack
- Maurice (or Morris)
- Sarina (or similar)
- Esther
They were >from Romania/Turkey.
Thank you very much.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan
(near Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will
not re-open for at least six months. They are doing construction on
upper floors and need to build an elevator shaft right through the
microfilm area. Although currently still open, they are not ordering
any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite
loan at the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an
order. I needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It
was not on the list and also not listed in their "front" system. I
told them that I thought somebody recently viewed the film. They
went into the "back" and told me that in fact they did have the
film, not in the "numbered" draws, but in the "alphabetized" draws.
Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and
does have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
mailto:moishe@langsam.com

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan
(near Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will
not re-open for at least six months. They are doing construction on
upper floors and need to build an elevator shaft right through the
microfilm area. Although currently still open, they are not ordering
any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite
loan at the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an
order. I needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It
was not on the list and also not listed in their "front" system. I
told them that I thought somebody recently viewed the film. They
went into the "back" and told me that in fact they did have the
film, not in the "numbered" draws, but in the "alphabetized" draws.
Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and
does have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
mailto:moishe@langsam.com

It seems to me that the records obtained by Robert Hanscom should eventually
be made available as part of the Hungarian database project. I know this
means help >from the group and I am willing though not very good on computers
or Excel, etc. I guess donations would also help - and wish it were a bit
easier for Canadians to make their donations tax deductible. As it is, the
rules only allow Canadians to claim for donations to US charities (or 501
(c) 3 organizations) if they have income >from the US.

Anyway, a donation it will be >from me after I return >from Israel to where I
am heading this week.

Regards to all,
Judy

Judy Young
jy-abcd@cyberus.ca

Moderator VK: Donations to JewishGen are always welcome and can be earmarked for H-SIG. Carol Robinson, the All-Hungary Database Coordinator <caroljr@attbi.com> has offered to work with volunteers who are interested in organizing a research group to undertake a Trencin transcription project. After someone volunteers to serve as coordinator for this effort, Carol will help the group to develop a research strategy, design a database template, and prepare a proposal to JewishGen. Once a project is established, donors will be able to tag contributions to help pay for duplication of records and other expenses including the cost of uploading and maintaining the data on-line.

The Trencin [Trencsen] county records obtained by Robert Hanscom >from the Hungarian
Archives are indeed treasures. I'd like to share a few thoughts regarding next steps.

LitvakSIG gives us a model of organizing area research groups to further research in
specific towns or counties. It would be great if individuals interested in Trencin
[Trencsen] county would form a research group to transcribe the data obtained by Robert.
This will happen if someone volunteers to coordinate the project and if there are
volunteers willing to transcribe data. I would work with the group to develop a data
strategy and template(s), to write a proposal to JewishGen, to work with JewishGen staff to
obtain permission to use the data and to see this project through its eventual inclusion in
the All Hungary Database.

Robert's success suggests that there might be similar records available for other
geographic areas within Hungary. We could certainly form other county research groups to
focus on transcribing records of specific areas, if there is interest. Our current
projects, the 1828 census and the 1848 census projects, are only partially completed, and
additional volunteers are needed to keep these projects moving forward as well. The more
volunteers we have, the faster the data will be available through the All Hungary Database.

If there are volunteers to coordinate and/or transcribe Trencin [Trencsen] county records,
let me know at caroljr@attbi.com.

Regards,

Carol Robinson, Coordinator
All Hungary Database

It seems to me that the records obtained by Robert Hanscom should eventually
be made available as part of the Hungarian database project. I know this
means help >from the group and I am willing though not very good on computers
or Excel, etc. I guess donations would also help - and wish it were a bit
easier for Canadians to make their donations tax deductible. As it is, the
rules only allow Canadians to claim for donations to US charities (or 501
(c) 3 organizations) if they have income >from the US.

Anyway, a donation it will be >from me after I return >from Israel to where I
am heading this week.

Regards to all,
Judy

Judy Young
jy-abcd@cyberus.ca

Moderator VK: Donations to JewishGen are always welcome and can be earmarked for H-SIG. Carol Robinson, the All-Hungary Database Coordinator <caroljr@attbi.com> has offered to work with volunteers who are interested in organizing a research group to undertake a Trencin transcription project. After someone volunteers to serve as coordinator for this effort, Carol will help the group to develop a research strategy, design a database template, and prepare a proposal to JewishGen. Once a project is established, donors will be able to tag contributions to help pay for duplication of records and other expenses including the cost of uploading and maintaining the data on-line.

The Trencin [Trencsen] county records obtained by Robert Hanscom >from the Hungarian
Archives are indeed treasures. I'd like to share a few thoughts regarding next steps.

LitvakSIG gives us a model of organizing area research groups to further research in
specific towns or counties. It would be great if individuals interested in Trencin
[Trencsen] county would form a research group to transcribe the data obtained by Robert.
This will happen if someone volunteers to coordinate the project and if there are
volunteers willing to transcribe data. I would work with the group to develop a data
strategy and template(s), to write a proposal to JewishGen, to work with JewishGen staff to
obtain permission to use the data and to see this project through its eventual inclusion in
the All Hungary Database.

Robert's success suggests that there might be similar records available for other
geographic areas within Hungary. We could certainly form other county research groups to
focus on transcribing records of specific areas, if there is interest. Our current
projects, the 1828 census and the 1848 census projects, are only partially completed, and
additional volunteers are needed to keep these projects moving forward as well. The more
volunteers we have, the faster the data will be available through the All Hungary Database.

If there are volunteers to coordinate and/or transcribe Trencin [Trencsen] county records,
let me know at caroljr@attbi.com.

Regards,

Carol Robinson, Coordinator
All Hungary Database

I have been searching for my GG parents on the 1848 Census off Hungary.I
scrolled through all the names and of all the towns.I see no reference to
GYOR.....I understand that was quite a vibrant Jewish Community..
My GGMother Bertha STRASSER was born in 1843,and lived in Gyor, I can find
no record of this.I have found record of her on the GYOR website where
there is a photo of her grave.She married in Gyor a Lipot GOLD, again I can
find no reference of any GOLD's in the 1848 Census, either of Lipot or his
parents.
Can anyone please let me know why they would not appear on that census?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
Ron Bower
Melbourne AUSTRALIA

Moderator VK: According to the FHL catalog, records >from the city (varos) of Gyor are included in Europe Film #0719823 and records >from other places in the county (megye) are on Film #0719824. You should be aware, however, that the FHL has not filmed all of the records >from the 1848 Jewish Census. Other records are apparently available in Budapest at the State Archives or >from the Jewish archives.

I have been searching for my GG parents on the 1848 Census off Hungary.I
scrolled through all the names and of all the towns.I see no reference to
GYOR.....I understand that was quite a vibrant Jewish Community..
My GGMother Bertha STRASSER was born in 1843,and lived in Gyor, I can find
no record of this.I have found record of her on the GYOR website where
there is a photo of her grave.She married in Gyor a Lipot GOLD, again I can
find no reference of any GOLD's in the 1848 Census, either of Lipot or his
parents.
Can anyone please let me know why they would not appear on that census?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
Ron Bower
Melbourne AUSTRALIA

Moderator VK: According to the FHL catalog, records >from the city (varos) of Gyor are included in Europe Film #0719823 and records >from other places in the county (megye) are on Film #0719824. You should be aware, however, that the FHL has not filmed all of the records >from the 1848 Jewish Census. Other records are apparently available in Budapest at the State Archives or >from the Jewish archives.

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan (near
Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will not re-open
for at least six months. They are doing construction on upper floors and
need to build an elevator shaft right through the microfilm area. Although
currently still open, they are not ordering any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite loan at
the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an order. I
needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It was not on the
list and also not listed in their "front" system. I told them that I
thought somebody recently viewed the film. They went into the "back" and
told me that in fact they did have the film, not in the "numbered" draws,
but in the "alphabetized" draws. Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and does
have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
moishe@langsam.com

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan (near
Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will not re-open
for at least six months. They are doing construction on upper floors and
need to build an elevator shaft right through the microfilm area. Although
currently still open, they are not ordering any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite loan at
the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an order. I
needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It was not on the
list and also not listed in their "front" system. I told them that I
thought somebody recently viewed the film. They went into the "back" and
told me that in fact they did have the film, not in the "numbered" draws,
but in the "alphabetized" draws. Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and does
have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
moishe@langsam.com

Hi All:

This is indeed a goldmine. I would suggest contacting Daniel Schlyter at
the FHL, who handles Eastern Europe. I suspect they might be very
interested in copying and microfilming what you have, thus making it
available to all.

Having these records nationally available is crucial. Having one person
try to transcribe these records is less efficient than locating a copy of
these at the Family History Library. However, we could do
both..transcribe as well as provide the FHL with hard copy.

Perhaps we can share in the costs of reproduction.

How do you feel about this?

Judy Deutsch Bennett

At 05:42 AM 10/25/02 -0400, you wrote:

ww.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.ihtml
Last June, after receiving copies of the 1781-82 Jewish census for
Trencin [Trencsen] county >from the Hungarian National Archives, I

SNIP

Last night, I received in the mail 430 photocopied pages >from the
Hungarian National Archives. As I looked through these pages, I was
stunned. Here's what they contain:

1795: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1798: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city

1809: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1814: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen county

1818: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1821: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

LARGE SNIP

This is a genealogical gold mine, and I am trying to figure out what to
do with these materials. Because the pages are oversized, it would take
a fair amount of time to make another set of photocopies. However, once
people have a chance to look at these, I think the reaction would be
similar to my own. For that reason, I am willing to invest some time in
making at least one set of photocopies and sending them along to someone
who might be able to transcribe them.

In the meantime, I am more than happy to do any lookups for anyone doing
research that is focused on Trencin county.

By the way, I never asked the archivists whether Jewish census records
exist for other Hungarian counties during these same years (1795-1821).
Given what I just received, it would seem likely that similar censuses
were taken of Jewish families in other parts of Hungary.

Best regards,

Robert Hanscom

Hi All:

This is indeed a goldmine. I would suggest contacting Daniel Schlyter at
the FHL, who handles Eastern Europe. I suspect they might be very
interested in copying and microfilming what you have, thus making it
available to all.

Having these records nationally available is crucial. Having one person
try to transcribe these records is less efficient than locating a copy of
these at the Family History Library. However, we could do
both..transcribe as well as provide the FHL with hard copy.

Perhaps we can share in the costs of reproduction.

How do you feel about this?

Judy Deutsch Bennett

At 05:42 AM 10/25/02 -0400, you wrote:

ww.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.ihtml
Last June, after receiving copies of the 1781-82 Jewish census for
Trencin [Trencsen] county >from the Hungarian National Archives, I

SNIP

Last night, I received in the mail 430 photocopied pages >from the
Hungarian National Archives. As I looked through these pages, I was
stunned. Here's what they contain:

1795: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1798: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city

1809: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1814: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen county

1818: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

1821: JEWISH ONLY census of Trencsen city and Trencsen county

LARGE SNIP

This is a genealogical gold mine, and I am trying to figure out what to
do with these materials. Because the pages are oversized, it would take
a fair amount of time to make another set of photocopies. However, once
people have a chance to look at these, I think the reaction would be
similar to my own. For that reason, I am willing to invest some time in
making at least one set of photocopies and sending them along to someone
who might be able to transcribe them.

In the meantime, I am more than happy to do any lookups for anyone doing
research that is focused on Trencin county.

By the way, I never asked the archivists whether Jewish census records
exist for other Hungarian counties during these same years (1795-1821).
Given what I just received, it would seem likely that similar censuses
were taken of Jewish families in other parts of Hungary.

Best regards,

Robert Hanscom

Most definitely. See a version of the famous old story retold at
http://www.ornot.com/humor/talmudist.html

Israel Pickholtz

Most definitely. See a version of the famous old story retold at
http://www.ornot.com/humor/talmudist.html

Israel Pickholtz

I have just posted the back of a cabinet photo of my grandmother, father and
aunt taken about 1901 or 02 to View Mate. It is a message in yiddish. It was
apparently taken in Russia. They were living in Riga at the time. I believe
my grandfather had already left for the U.S.

Any help in the translation would be greatly appreciated - it's been too
long since I have tried to read yiddish - 60 years -

Thanks
Alice RIFKIND Gutenkauf
researching RIFKIND >from Rogachev, Belarus and Riga, Latvia, POLLACK/
POLLOCK/POPLACK, >from Rokiskis/Rokashiki Lithuania

MODERATOR NOTE: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=1875

I have just posted the back of a cabinet photo of my grandmother, father and
aunt taken about 1901 or 02 to View Mate. It is a message in yiddish. It was
apparently taken in Russia. They were living in Riga at the time. I believe
my grandfather had already left for the U.S.

Any help in the translation would be greatly appreciated - it's been too
long since I have tried to read yiddish - 60 years -

Thanks
Alice RIFKIND Gutenkauf
researching RIFKIND >from Rogachev, Belarus and Riga, Latvia, POLLACK/
POLLOCK/POPLACK, >from Rokiskis/Rokashiki Lithuania

MODERATOR NOTE: www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=1875