Dear friends,

Has anyone ever heard the surname - Sacheelo (or like it)?
My ggrandfather was born as Sacheelo but he changed it
because unknown reason. He was born in 1873 in the little
town of Sochovola, Poland 96 Russia. It is located between
Bialystock and Grodno.
There is a possibility that there was another town there in
the name - Sacheelovka, and that Jews >from Italy came to
this town many years ago. Does someone know more details?

Thank you

ALON GINZBERG
Along@yedioth.co.il <mailto:Along@yedioth.co.il>

Dear friends,

Has anyone ever heard the surname - Sacheelo (or like it)?
My ggrandfather was born as Sacheelo but he changed it
because unknown reason. He was born in 1873 in the little
town of Sochovola, Poland 96 Russia. It is located between
Bialystock and Grodno.
There is a possibility that there was another town there in
the name - Sacheelovka, and that Jews >from Italy came to
this town many years ago. Does someone know more details?

Thank you

ALON GINZBERG
Along@yedioth.co.il <mailto:Along@yedioth.co.il>

In a message dated 10/12/2002 11:53:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dlfrankel@mindspring.com writes:

<< My gggrandmother's death certificate lists her age at 68.
The informant was her son.

Yet, the marker, which was probably erected at her unveiling, clearly shows
that her age at death as 84, which is
consistent with the ages of her children.
In 1918, that was considered OLD. >>
==One possibility--he gave her birthdate (in Eyrope it was often more common
to ask for, and respond with, birth date than age since birth. According to
the stone, she was born 1838. The clerk realized that the woman was more than
38 yo and corrected this to 68.

There are so many ways to get "the facts" wrong.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

Hi Everyone,

I have an ancestor who was supposedly killed in the pogrom that took place
in Proskurov in 1919. I was wondering if there was a list of victims that
was compiled. If not, I would still be interested in reading any other
material that was written about it.

Thanks for your help.

Adam Smith
New York, NY

Searching:
ABRAMSKY; Khmelnik, Litin
DINETZ; Derazhnia
BUBITZ (BABITZ, BABICH); Bazalia, Proskurov, Staroconstantinov

In a message dated 10/12/2002 11:53:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dlfrankel@mindspring.com writes:

<< My gggrandmother's death certificate lists her age at 68.
The informant was her son.

Yet, the marker, which was probably erected at her unveiling, clearly shows
that her age at death as 84, which is
consistent with the ages of her children.
In 1918, that was considered OLD. >>
==One possibility--he gave her birthdate (in Eyrope it was often more common
to ask for, and respond with, birth date than age since birth. According to
the stone, she was born 1838. The clerk realized that the woman was more than
38 yo and corrected this to 68.

There are so many ways to get "the facts" wrong.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER

Hi Everyone,

I have an ancestor who was supposedly killed in the pogrom that took place
in Proskurov in 1919. I was wondering if there was a list of victims that
was compiled. If not, I would still be interested in reading any other
material that was written about it.

Thanks for your help.

Adam Smith
New York, NY

Searching:
ABRAMSKY; Khmelnik, Litin
DINETZ; Derazhnia
BUBITZ (BABITZ, BABICH); Bazalia, Proskurov, Staroconstantinov

Bonjour

Is it improbable in 1929 that someone was living in Warsaw, but

working in

Wloclawek as dentist? Wloclawek is140 km far >from Warsaw, on the

Vistula...

Daniel Vangheluwe
France

Dear Daniel,

I would rather doubt that. Even today, a commuter travelling 140 kms
everyday is seldom, and before WW2 the roads and cars were less
comfortable and the trains much slower.

If you need information about doctors and dentists before WW2 in Poland,
please contact me privately.

Best regards,

G. Gembala
Cracow, Poland

Researching:
GLEICH, ESKREIS, PILLERSDORF, JANCZER, KLETZEL (Galicia), SIMSON (U.S.)

Dear Genners,

Dan Efrat & Lisa Weissbach-Efrat wrote about a site in Israel for finding
lost relatives and friends, http://www.krovim.co.il/. The Efrats wrote that
the site was only in Hebrew. When I clicked on it, I read that "an English
version for this site is coming soon." This could be very helpful to all of
us.

Marilen Pitler
St. Louis, MO

Bonjour

Is it improbable in 1929 that someone was living in Warsaw, but

working in

Wloclawek as dentist? Wloclawek is140 km far >from Warsaw, on the

Vistula...

Daniel Vangheluwe
France

Dear Daniel,

I would rather doubt that. Even today, a commuter travelling 140 kms
everyday is seldom, and before WW2 the roads and cars were less
comfortable and the trains much slower.

If you need information about doctors and dentists before WW2 in Poland,
please contact me privately.

Best regards,

G. Gembala
Cracow, Poland

Researching:
GLEICH, ESKREIS, PILLERSDORF, JANCZER, KLETZEL (Galicia), SIMSON (U.S.)

Dear Genners,

Dan Efrat & Lisa Weissbach-Efrat wrote about a site in Israel for finding
lost relatives and friends, http://www.krovim.co.il/. The Efrats wrote that
the site was only in Hebrew. When I clicked on it, I read that "an English
version for this site is coming soon." This could be very helpful to all of
us.

Marilen Pitler
St. Louis, MO

Dear all.

My G'aunt Lina ARNHEIM >from Rogasen, married in 1909 to Hartvey LEESMANS

from Amdterdam.

Their known son was called Leo.

Any information will be most appreciated.

Best regards.
Udi Cain, Jerusalem.
chaikin@netvision.net.il

Dear all.

My G'aunt Lina ARNHEIM >from Rogasen, married in 1909 to Hartvey LEESMANS

from Amdterdam.

Their known son was called Leo.

Any information will be most appreciated.

Best regards.
Udi Cain, Jerusalem.
chaikin@netvision.net.il

Hello All
So , Do we know if anyone took notes on the Riga
Meeting? And if they did , are they willing to share ?
Larry De Witt
Allen , Texas , USA
#62685 Sherr, Sher, Scherr , Bauska , Riga , Latvia ,
NYC, Reading Pa. Allentown , PA

Hello All
So , Do we know if anyone took notes on the Riga
Meeting? And if they did , are they willing to share ?
Larry De Witt
Allen , Texas , USA
#62685 Sherr, Sher, Scherr , Bauska , Riga , Latvia ,
NYC, Reading Pa. Allentown , PA

Dear folks,

Census records and family lore indicate that my REST / RESHT family lived in
Courland, Riga and Libau. (Solomon was born in 1881, Courland). However,
the only reference to a REST family I find though the databases online is in
the All Lithuania Databasa which indicates that this family lived in Plunge
and Ukmerge shtetls in Kaunas guberniya in Lithuania (just south of Riga).
(Solomon shows up on the 1899 HaMelitz records as living in Kaunas,
Lithuania, others in Plunge and Ukmerge.)

I did find a reference (All Lithuania Database Revision Lists) in describing
the Revision Lists that referred to:

""Jews originally >from Kaunas Gubernya who were expelled >from Riga, Latvia"
and a host of other lists showing the mobility of our ancestors."

Might this refer to my relatives? Does anyone know of the explusion that
this refers to?

Does anyone have any other thoughts on why my supposedly Latvian relatives
turned up in Lithuania? I am pretty certain that this one family of RESTS
( the only one that I find ANYWHERE) is indeed my family since the first
names and dates correspond so closely. Also, apparently many Plungians ended
up going to South Africa, and there is a branch of RESTs that did go there.
(I have yet to find them...)

Thanks for any help!
Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA

Dear folks,

Census records and family lore indicate that my REST / RESHT family lived in
Courland, Riga and Libau. (Solomon was born in 1881, Courland). However,
the only reference to a REST family I find though the databases online is in
the All Lithuania Databasa which indicates that this family lived in Plunge
and Ukmerge shtetls in Kaunas guberniya in Lithuania (just south of Riga).
(Solomon shows up on the 1899 HaMelitz records as living in Kaunas,
Lithuania, others in Plunge and Ukmerge.)

I did find a reference (All Lithuania Database Revision Lists) in describing
the Revision Lists that referred to:

""Jews originally >from Kaunas Gubernya who were expelled >from Riga, Latvia"
and a host of other lists showing the mobility of our ancestors."

Might this refer to my relatives? Does anyone know of the explusion that
this refers to?

Does anyone have any other thoughts on why my supposedly Latvian relatives
turned up in Lithuania? I am pretty certain that this one family of RESTS
( the only one that I find ANYWHERE) is indeed my family since the first
names and dates correspond so closely. Also, apparently many Plungians ended
up going to South Africa, and there is a branch of RESTs that did go there.
(I have yet to find them...)

Thanks for any help!
Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone provide me with names of experienced and reliable researchers,
preferably living in Belarus, to research family records.

Thanks,

Joe Kushner
e-mail: fkushne@worldnet.att.net

Hi
I'm trying to trace information on the family of Chaim KAHN a businessman

from Brest-Litovsk. He was active in the Mizrachi movement and donated money

to Jerusalem (Mekor Chaim is named after him). His son Bendet was the owner
of "Yalkut", a hebrew publishing house, and another son David was the
publisher of Haaretz. I'd like to trace information on his wife, children
and especially a connection to the Rabinowitz, Finkelstein, Rifkin and
Labris families in Brest-Litovsk.
Bernard Rosinsky

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone provide me with names of experienced and reliable researchers,
preferably living in Belarus, to research family records.

Thanks,

Joe Kushner
e-mail: fkushne@worldnet.att.net

Hi
I'm trying to trace information on the family of Chaim KAHN a businessman

from Brest-Litovsk. He was active in the Mizrachi movement and donated money

to Jerusalem (Mekor Chaim is named after him). His son Bendet was the owner
of "Yalkut", a hebrew publishing house, and another son David was the
publisher of Haaretz. I'd like to trace information on his wife, children
and especially a connection to the Rabinowitz, Finkelstein, Rifkin and
Labris families in Brest-Litovsk.
Bernard Rosinsky