Date   

re Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN from Sandomierz #poland

Marilyn Glass <mgglass@...>
 

I recently discovered the year of marriage for my husband's great
grandmother Alta ZILBERSTEIN and her twin sister Nuchuma ZILBERSTEIN. Alta
married Josek Baruch GLASS in 1890 and Nuchma married Nuta Bejer ROSENBAUM
in 1899.

In the same Sandomierz, Poland data where the above information was
obtained, there are a few other ZILBERSTEINs listed but, one stands out in
my mind and that is of a Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN who married Estera Witla
BOOKER in 1888. Perhaps Josek was a sibling of Alta and Nuchuma or may be a
cousin???

Thank you for reading the above and I hope some of the information contained
in this email sounds familiar. I may be reached at mgglass@rogers.com.

Best wishes,

Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS
Toronto, Ontario Canada


Re: jri-pl digest: November 15, 2002 #poland

AJSAL64@...
 

In a message dated 11/16/2002 1:02:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:


How do I change my email address to continue to receive jri-pl digest
and
JEWISHGEN Digest?
At the bottow of each digest are directions on how to unsubscribe. Do that
with your old e-mail address. Then subscribe to each with your new address.


petition for naturalization/declaration of intention #ukraine

Sarah Ivy Gibb <sarahgibb@...>
 

One way to check for a change of name is to find the naturalization
record, including both the petition for naturalization and the
"Declaration of Intention" (first papers) which is filed in the same
place as the petition.
Where and how can one look up and view petitions for naturalization and
declarations of intention? Census records have clued me in to years of
immigration for two sets of my great-great grandparents, but because they
were "pre Ellis-Island" I haven't been able to find much more information on
them. And unfortunately, the surviving family no longer remembers where
they came from. Being able to view citizenship papers would be a great
help!

Thanks for any suggestions folks are able to offer.
--
Sarah Gibb

Researching:
ZAPOLANSKY (PAULIN) & PLINER >from Yekaterinaslav Gubernia;
LONDON >from Lithuania (?);
GLASSMAN >from "Checkenov" (in Poland? Ukraine?)


JRI Poland #Poland re Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN from Sandomierz #poland

Marilyn Glass <mgglass@...>
 

I recently discovered the year of marriage for my husband's great
grandmother Alta ZILBERSTEIN and her twin sister Nuchuma ZILBERSTEIN. Alta
married Josek Baruch GLASS in 1890 and Nuchma married Nuta Bejer ROSENBAUM
in 1899.

In the same Sandomierz, Poland data where the above information was
obtained, there are a few other ZILBERSTEINs listed but, one stands out in
my mind and that is of a Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN who married Estera Witla
BOOKER in 1888. Perhaps Josek was a sibling of Alta and Nuchuma or may be a
cousin???

Thank you for reading the above and I hope some of the information contained
in this email sounds familiar. I may be reached at mgglass@rogers.com.

Best wishes,

Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS
Toronto, Ontario Canada


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: November 15, 2002 #poland

AJSAL64@...
 

In a message dated 11/16/2002 1:02:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:


How do I change my email address to continue to receive jri-pl digest
and
JEWISHGEN Digest?
At the bottow of each digest are directions on how to unsubscribe. Do that
with your old e-mail address. Then subscribe to each with your new address.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine petition for naturalization/declaration of intention #ukraine

Sarah Ivy Gibb <sarahgibb@...>
 

One way to check for a change of name is to find the naturalization
record, including both the petition for naturalization and the
"Declaration of Intention" (first papers) which is filed in the same
place as the petition.
Where and how can one look up and view petitions for naturalization and
declarations of intention? Census records have clued me in to years of
immigration for two sets of my great-great grandparents, but because they
were "pre Ellis-Island" I haven't been able to find much more information on
them. And unfortunately, the surviving family no longer remembers where
they came from. Being able to view citizenship papers would be a great
help!

Thanks for any suggestions folks are able to offer.
--
Sarah Gibb

Researching:
ZAPOLANSKY (PAULIN) & PLINER >from Yekaterinaslav Gubernia;
LONDON >from Lithuania (?);
GLASSMAN >from "Checkenov" (in Poland? Ukraine?)


New procedure for ordering records from Polish State Archives #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

News release (16 November 2002):

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce that an
agreement has been signed with the Polish State Archives (PSA)
to launch a new online system for processing orders for copies of records.

The first step in introducing this system is a two-month pilot project
with the Bialystok and Lomza branches. The new system is now
operational for these branches and you can use this system to
order records immediately >from the Bialystok and Lomza Archives.
After the pilot project is concluded, this system will be available for
other Branch Archives.

The new online order system will eliminate problems both for you,
the researcher, and for the branches of the Polish State Archives.
You will now be able to pay by credit card and the branches will
no longer be faced with high transaction fees charged by local
banks for depositing bank / cashier checks >from outside of Poland.
JRI-Poland will accept researcher payments and periodically
arrange for grouped bank-to-bank transfers to PSA Branches.

Features of the new online order system

* Records are selected and orders are created on-line using a
"Shopping Basket" format. After identifying a record you want,
you simply point and click and the desired record is added to
your shopping basket.

* If your shopping basket includes orders for more than one branch
of the archives, separate orders are automatically created for
each branch.

* Researchers print and snail mail the order(s) with their payment
by credit card, personal check (drawn on a U.S. bank), or US$
international money order (cleared through a bank in the US) to
the "JRI-Poland Processing Center" in Merion Station, Pennsylvania.
(At present the credit card form must be mailed; we are not
accepting credit card payment electronically.)

* As soon as your order(s) and payment are received, the
Processing Center emails your order(s) to the PSA branch(es).

* The archive branch will mail the copies of the records directly
to you by registered air mail within 30 days of receiving the order.

Benefits

* Payments: the system will eliminate the often irritating and
costly procedures to arrange payment as well as the high cost of
transaction fees charged to PSA Branches by their local banks
for depositing bank / cashier checks >from outside of Poland.

* Price: a standard $10 price per record will apply. However,
there is a minimum charge per branch of $15. (Therefore, if you
order one record >from the Lomza branch and one record >from the
Bialystok branch, the total charge will be $30.)

* Accuracy: the shopping basket format will ensure that only
those records indexed as part of the PSA project can be ordered
from the PSA.
* Promptness: the JRI-Poland agreement stipulates that branches
will mail the records within 30 days.

Ordering records during the "Test Period"

The Bialystok and Lomza pilot project is expected to run for two
months. If all goes according to plan, the Shopping Basket system
will be extended to all branches in early 2003. This applies only
to branches holding records for which there are indices in the
JRI-Poland database.

In the interim, there will be three separate systems, each
applicable for DIFFERENT archive branches. Here is how it
breaks down:

* Bialystok and Lomza Archives: Shopping Basket trial.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psabasketinst.htm

* AGAD Archives: Current system of batched orders handled by
Mark Halpern remains in place until the shift to the Shopping Basket.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psaagadinst.htm

* All other Archives: Request for Quotation system, now in place.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psainst.htm

The Search Page results include links to the three sets of
instructions referred to above.

During this test period, we urge researchers with an interest in
records >from towns in the Lomza and Bialystok Archives to place
orders immediately. A thorough test of the Shopping Basket format
is needed before it can be extended to all branches.

The following additional indices to records have been released
to the JRI-Poland database:

Bialystok Archives:
Bialystok City, Births and Deaths, 1900

Lomza Archives:
PSA data for the following towns is now live or will be available
within the next two weeks: Andrzejewo, Czyzewo, Grajewo, Jablonka,
Nowogrod, Nur, Radzilow, Rajgrod, Sniadowo, Szczuczyn, Trzcianne,
Wasosz, Wizna, Wysockie Mazowieckie, Zambrow. (Records for the
Town of Lomza were previously available.)

We ask for your patience as we learn >from your comments and
suggestions.

Please write us at pilotproject@jri-poland.org

The board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland New procedure for ordering records from Polish State Archives #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

News release (16 November 2002):

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland is pleased to announce that an
agreement has been signed with the Polish State Archives (PSA)
to launch a new online system for processing orders for copies of records.

The first step in introducing this system is a two-month pilot project
with the Bialystok and Lomza branches. The new system is now
operational for these branches and you can use this system to
order records immediately >from the Bialystok and Lomza Archives.
After the pilot project is concluded, this system will be available for
other Branch Archives.

The new online order system will eliminate problems both for you,
the researcher, and for the branches of the Polish State Archives.
You will now be able to pay by credit card and the branches will
no longer be faced with high transaction fees charged by local
banks for depositing bank / cashier checks >from outside of Poland.
JRI-Poland will accept researcher payments and periodically
arrange for grouped bank-to-bank transfers to PSA Branches.

Features of the new online order system

* Records are selected and orders are created on-line using a
"Shopping Basket" format. After identifying a record you want,
you simply point and click and the desired record is added to
your shopping basket.

* If your shopping basket includes orders for more than one branch
of the archives, separate orders are automatically created for
each branch.

* Researchers print and snail mail the order(s) with their payment
by credit card, personal check (drawn on a U.S. bank), or US$
international money order (cleared through a bank in the US) to
the "JRI-Poland Processing Center" in Merion Station, Pennsylvania.
(At present the credit card form must be mailed; we are not
accepting credit card payment electronically.)

* As soon as your order(s) and payment are received, the
Processing Center emails your order(s) to the PSA branch(es).

* The archive branch will mail the copies of the records directly
to you by registered air mail within 30 days of receiving the order.

Benefits

* Payments: the system will eliminate the often irritating and
costly procedures to arrange payment as well as the high cost of
transaction fees charged to PSA Branches by their local banks
for depositing bank / cashier checks >from outside of Poland.

* Price: a standard $10 price per record will apply. However,
there is a minimum charge per branch of $15. (Therefore, if you
order one record >from the Lomza branch and one record >from the
Bialystok branch, the total charge will be $30.)

* Accuracy: the shopping basket format will ensure that only
those records indexed as part of the PSA project can be ordered
from the PSA.
* Promptness: the JRI-Poland agreement stipulates that branches
will mail the records within 30 days.

Ordering records during the "Test Period"

The Bialystok and Lomza pilot project is expected to run for two
months. If all goes according to plan, the Shopping Basket system
will be extended to all branches in early 2003. This applies only
to branches holding records for which there are indices in the
JRI-Poland database.

In the interim, there will be three separate systems, each
applicable for DIFFERENT archive branches. Here is how it
breaks down:

* Bialystok and Lomza Archives: Shopping Basket trial.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psabasketinst.htm

* AGAD Archives: Current system of batched orders handled by
Mark Halpern remains in place until the shift to the Shopping Basket.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psaagadinst.htm

* All other Archives: Request for Quotation system, now in place.
For instructions, see www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psainst.htm

The Search Page results include links to the three sets of
instructions referred to above.

During this test period, we urge researchers with an interest in
records >from towns in the Lomza and Bialystok Archives to place
orders immediately. A thorough test of the Shopping Basket format
is needed before it can be extended to all branches.

The following additional indices to records have been released
to the JRI-Poland database:

Bialystok Archives:
Bialystok City, Births and Deaths, 1900

Lomza Archives:
PSA data for the following towns is now live or will be available
within the next two weeks: Andrzejewo, Czyzewo, Grajewo, Jablonka,
Nowogrod, Nur, Radzilow, Rajgrod, Sniadowo, Szczuczyn, Trzcianne,
Wasosz, Wizna, Wysockie Mazowieckie, Zambrow. (Records for the
Town of Lomza were previously available.)

We ask for your patience as we learn >from your comments and
suggestions.

Please write us at pilotproject@jri-poland.org

The board of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Searching for missing links #ukraine

Anna Kagan <nessy_odessy69@...>
 

Hi everyone,
I'm searching for family names and their stories, that are missing in our
family tree.
BORIMSKY( Kiev & Odessa); ZOZULIA(Odessa, he had Polish roots. His surname
was changed, we don't know previous); LUPENKO ( This surname was changed
too. After the war my grandmother had Shabbat house at her place in Odessa.
She had 10 children, we know only 5); PROSIANOVSKY Franc(Kiev,never came
back after WWII); RJAVSKY Dora (born in Chernobyl shtettle, she was 1 of 10
children. We know only 2); AIS(Kiev); KOTLAIRENKO(Kiev)

Anna Kagen


Moderator's Note: Please remember to capitalize your surnames. Thank you.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Searching for missing links #ukraine

Anna Kagan <nessy_odessy69@...>
 

Hi everyone,
I'm searching for family names and their stories, that are missing in our
family tree.
BORIMSKY( Kiev & Odessa); ZOZULIA(Odessa, he had Polish roots. His surname
was changed, we don't know previous); LUPENKO ( This surname was changed
too. After the war my grandmother had Shabbat house at her place in Odessa.
She had 10 children, we know only 5); PROSIANOVSKY Franc(Kiev,never came
back after WWII); RJAVSKY Dora (born in Chernobyl shtettle, she was 1 of 10
children. We know only 2); AIS(Kiev); KOTLAIRENKO(Kiev)

Anna Kagen


Moderator's Note: Please remember to capitalize your surnames. Thank you.


JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The JGS of Long Island invites you to attend our Sunday, Nov 24 meeting.
Our guest speaker is Michael Levine, systems analyst and member of the
Executive Council of the JGS of NY.

Our topic is: Using the Ellis Island Database

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Admission is free and all are welcome. Cake and Coffee will be served.
Our Board members are available >from 1:30 PM to take your genealogy
questions. For more information please contact Rhoda, rmiller871@aol.com

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The JGS of Long Island invites you to attend our Sunday, Nov 24 meeting.
Our guest speaker is Michael Levine, systems analyst and member of the
Executive Council of the JGS of NY.

Our topic is: Using the Ellis Island Database

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Admission is free and all are welcome. Cake and Coffee will be served.
Our Board members are available >from 1:30 PM to take your genealogy
questions. For more information please contact Rhoda, rmiller871@aol.com

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


Origine_of_the_name? #ukraine

"chpo@tiscali.fr <chpo@...>
 

So far I've not foud any information in your database about the familly SCHPOLIANSKY
|SPOLANSKIS | CHPOLIANSKY. My ancestors are >from somewhere around Kiev in Ukraine and an
old woomen has said one day that it was probably comming >from a stetl near Kiev called SPOLA.
As SPOLIANSKY means in russian ">from Spola".
Could anybody of your subscribers originating fron Ukra EFna tell me more about my family and
that SPOLA stetl?
My grand father Leonty SPOLANSKIS was a deputy >from Latgalia in Lettland just before last WV.

Thank you.

Nik Chpoliansky chpo@tiscali.fr


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Origine_of_the_name? #ukraine

"chpo@tiscali.fr <chpo@...>
 

So far I've not foud any information in your database about the familly SCHPOLIANSKY
|SPOLANSKIS | CHPOLIANSKY. My ancestors are >from somewhere around Kiev in Ukraine and an
old woomen has said one day that it was probably comming >from a stetl near Kiev called SPOLA.
As SPOLIANSKY means in russian ">from Spola".
Could anybody of your subscribers originating fron Ukra EFna tell me more about my family and
that SPOLA stetl?
My grand father Leonty SPOLANSKIS was a deputy >from Latgalia in Lettland just before last WV.

Thank you.

Nik Chpoliansky chpo@tiscali.fr


how to organize genealogical research ? #general

Ralph Salinger <salinger@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to organize more
effectively my 20 years research ! I have all my material in files but I
always seem to missing some document or the other ! I am sure that
someone most have devised a fool proof system

Thanking you in advance,

Ralph Salinger
Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin
salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il

Seeking: The origins of modern Jewish Lomza !
: Why Jews moved East >from West Prussia ?


WALDMAN, GLOW, GLUKH, GLUKHOV, Lithuania? and Ostrowiec-->Winnipeg #general

Mervin
 

I'm new to genealogy research. I am interested in hearing >from anyone who
has information on the family of Israel WALDMAN who Pre WW I migrated from
Ostroweic, Poland to Winnipeg, Canada to USA or the GLOW family GLUKH (sp?)
GLUKHOV (sp?) who migrated in Pre WWI either >from Lithuania, Latvia, or
Russia (close to their common borders) to Winnipeg, Canada to the USA.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Merv Glow
Palm Springs
mglow@dc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen how to organize genealogical research ? #general

Ralph Salinger <salinger@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to organize more
effectively my 20 years research ! I have all my material in files but I
always seem to missing some document or the other ! I am sure that
someone most have devised a fool proof system

Thanking you in advance,

Ralph Salinger
Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin
salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il

Seeking: The origins of modern Jewish Lomza !
: Why Jews moved East >from West Prussia ?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WALDMAN, GLOW, GLUKH, GLUKHOV, Lithuania? and Ostrowiec-->Winnipeg #general

Mervin
 

I'm new to genealogy research. I am interested in hearing >from anyone who
has information on the family of Israel WALDMAN who Pre WW I migrated from
Ostroweic, Poland to Winnipeg, Canada to USA or the GLOW family GLUKH (sp?)
GLUKHOV (sp?) who migrated in Pre WWI either >from Lithuania, Latvia, or
Russia (close to their common borders) to Winnipeg, Canada to the USA.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Merv Glow
Palm Springs
mglow@dc.rr.com


Re: VOLOZHINER-LANDAU-SCHATZ connection (cont) #rabbinic

LJA022864@...
 

On 2002.11.17, Yoni Ben-Ari <yonatan@religions.gov.il> wrote:

I noticed today in Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain" that R' Itzale
the son of R' Chaim of Volozhin, was the father-in-law of Samuel
LANDAU (his daughter Rechel"s husband) a distant cousin of Yechezkel
LANDAU, the "Noda B'yehuda". According to my family sources which
talk about being descendant >from R' Chaim and that R' Itzale was the
unterfeirer of my gggggrandmother, maybe because this Samuel LANDAU
died at a relatively young age and wasn't alive to take his daughter
(?) to her chupa. This seems to the link.
This is extremely interesting. Does anyone have birth and death
dates, residences and any other information for Samuel and Rechel
LANDAU, R' Itzale and R' Chaim? I'm wondering if my Great great
grandmother Fannie LANDAU RAPHAELSON (born between 1850 and 1851) is
the daughter of Samuel and Rechel LANDAU, who died at a relatively
young age, and was raised by her grandfather, an important rabbi.
Fannie was married around 1870 to Wolf RAPHAELSON. Also, Fannie's
son was named Samuel. He was born between 1880 and 1881. I'm
wondering if he was named for Samuel LANDAU. Thanks.

Regards,

Laurie Adler
Washington, DC


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: VOLOZHINER-LANDAU-SCHATZ connection (cont) #rabbinic

LJA022864@...
 

On 2002.11.17, Yoni Ben-Ari <yonatan@religions.gov.il> wrote:

I noticed today in Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain" that R' Itzale
the son of R' Chaim of Volozhin, was the father-in-law of Samuel
LANDAU (his daughter Rechel"s husband) a distant cousin of Yechezkel
LANDAU, the "Noda B'yehuda". According to my family sources which
talk about being descendant >from R' Chaim and that R' Itzale was the
unterfeirer of my gggggrandmother, maybe because this Samuel LANDAU
died at a relatively young age and wasn't alive to take his daughter
(?) to her chupa. This seems to the link.
This is extremely interesting. Does anyone have birth and death
dates, residences and any other information for Samuel and Rechel
LANDAU, R' Itzale and R' Chaim? I'm wondering if my Great great
grandmother Fannie LANDAU RAPHAELSON (born between 1850 and 1851) is
the daughter of Samuel and Rechel LANDAU, who died at a relatively
young age, and was raised by her grandfather, an important rabbi.
Fannie was married around 1870 to Wolf RAPHAELSON. Also, Fannie's
son was named Samuel. He was born between 1880 and 1881. I'm
wondering if he was named for Samuel LANDAU. Thanks.

Regards,

Laurie Adler
Washington, DC