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Re: Jewish "Juniors"? #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article <ndiqsu8fgiv6mpansbtponn5hujvaa04k0@4ax.com>, Jon Meltzer
<jonmeltzer@mindspring.com> wrote:

dsgood@visi.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
It's an Ashekenazic (northern European, Yiddish-speaking) custom; I don't
think other Jews have it.

I believe it's daughters also -- no naming after living relatives, male
or female.
If an Ashkenazic man remarried after the death of a first wife, and
had daughters by the second, would the custom have permitted naming a
daughter after the deceased first wife?
It's not a question of "permitted" - it's a custom based on superstition


About my surname; WERNIK. #general

verogode@...
 

I was wondering if someone could tell me about my surname; Wernik;
probably originally Wernick. My family and I live in Uruguay in South
America. What we know is that my grand-grandfather came to Buenos
Aires, Argentina, his name was Ruben Wernik.
Thank you so much,
Virginia Wernik.


Re: Obtaining copy of a "get" in England #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/16/2002 11:30:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
roni19@optonline.net writes:

<< I am trying to discover the surname of my great aunt's first
husband. She (born 1871) gave birth to a child who assumed the
name of her step-father, my aunt's second husband, whom she married
in 1895. They had 5 more children. The descendants of the first
husband are eager to know the name of their biological ancestor.
I know that Rivka nee PRZYBYLSKI >from Belchatow and later Lodz,
went to London, England (Kensington district) to obtain a "get."
She stayed with relatives at 46 Ledbury Road and then 148
Westbourne Grove . (By then the relatives shortened the name
to BILSKI .) Her uncle was married in the East London Synagogue.
I don't know if she obtained the "get" near this location or had
to travel for this purpose.

Are there records of the "get" documents? I have not been able to
get a copy of Rivka's first marriage record in Poland. I cannot get
their child's birth record since I do not know the last name. >>

You can't get a copy of an an actual get. The original is presented
to the wife by her husband (about to be ex-), then the rabbi or the scribe
slashes it (to prevent possible fraudulent use) and returns it to her.

Generally, >from some time in the 19th century, there are synagogal
records in the Bet Din (religious court) where the divorce took place
(or in central archives). I assume there was also a civil divorce,
which will have to be obtained >from the civil authorities. This may
give you more specific information about the wife and her history.

The civil record of marriage should also name her first husband. If,
however, they kept the get a secret >from the authorities (divorces in
England were *extremely* hard to obtain at that time and could take many
years) she might have represented herself as spinster on the marriage
license, in which case there was no "first husband." If the get was in
secret, there may be no official records anywhere.

That may make this a tough nut to crack.

You may find information on Jews in England >from the Jewishgen archives.
You would also do well to query our counterparts in Eng;and at
jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish "Juniors"? #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article <ndiqsu8fgiv6mpansbtponn5hujvaa04k0@4ax.com>, Jon Meltzer
<jonmeltzer@mindspring.com> wrote:

dsgood@visi.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
It's an Ashekenazic (northern European, Yiddish-speaking) custom; I don't
think other Jews have it.

I believe it's daughters also -- no naming after living relatives, male
or female.
If an Ashkenazic man remarried after the death of a first wife, and
had daughters by the second, would the custom have permitted naming a
daughter after the deceased first wife?
It's not a question of "permitted" - it's a custom based on superstition


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen About my surname; WERNIK. #general

verogode@...
 

I was wondering if someone could tell me about my surname; Wernik;
probably originally Wernick. My family and I live in Uruguay in South
America. What we know is that my grand-grandfather came to Buenos
Aires, Argentina, his name was Ruben Wernik.
Thank you so much,
Virginia Wernik.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Obtaining copy of a "get" in England #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/16/2002 11:30:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
roni19@optonline.net writes:

<< I am trying to discover the surname of my great aunt's first
husband. She (born 1871) gave birth to a child who assumed the
name of her step-father, my aunt's second husband, whom she married
in 1895. They had 5 more children. The descendants of the first
husband are eager to know the name of their biological ancestor.
I know that Rivka nee PRZYBYLSKI >from Belchatow and later Lodz,
went to London, England (Kensington district) to obtain a "get."
She stayed with relatives at 46 Ledbury Road and then 148
Westbourne Grove . (By then the relatives shortened the name
to BILSKI .) Her uncle was married in the East London Synagogue.
I don't know if she obtained the "get" near this location or had
to travel for this purpose.

Are there records of the "get" documents? I have not been able to
get a copy of Rivka's first marriage record in Poland. I cannot get
their child's birth record since I do not know the last name. >>

You can't get a copy of an an actual get. The original is presented
to the wife by her husband (about to be ex-), then the rabbi or the scribe
slashes it (to prevent possible fraudulent use) and returns it to her.

Generally, >from some time in the 19th century, there are synagogal
records in the Bet Din (religious court) where the divorce took place
(or in central archives). I assume there was also a civil divorce,
which will have to be obtained >from the civil authorities. This may
give you more specific information about the wife and her history.

The civil record of marriage should also name her first husband. If,
however, they kept the get a secret >from the authorities (divorces in
England were *extremely* hard to obtain at that time and could take many
years) she might have represented herself as spinster on the marriage
license, in which case there was no "first husband." If the get was in
secret, there may be no official records anywhere.

That may make this a tough nut to crack.

You may find information on Jews in England >from the Jewishgen archives.
You would also do well to query our counterparts in Eng;and at
jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: the Jewish Hour - on CD? #general

jerome schatten
 

Thanks to all those many folks that responded
privately to my enquiry. There were more than
a few who asked to be informed about the CD when
and if I found it.

To that end, and hoping to escape the watchful eye
of the moderator, if you go to:

http://www.yiddishradioproject.org/exhibits/history/

and then click on 'store', the two CD set of all
ten NPR broadcasts is described.

For me listening to the 16 minute audio clip on the
website brought tears to my eyes.

Jerome Schatten
Vancouver, B.C.

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen policy permits a one-time sales mention of
genealogically relevant books, software, websites and tours.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: the Jewish Hour - on CD? #general

jerome schatten
 

Thanks to all those many folks that responded
privately to my enquiry. There were more than
a few who asked to be informed about the CD when
and if I found it.

To that end, and hoping to escape the watchful eye
of the moderator, if you go to:

http://www.yiddishradioproject.org/exhibits/history/

and then click on 'store', the two CD set of all
ten NPR broadcasts is described.

For me listening to the 16 minute audio clip on the
website brought tears to my eyes.

Jerome Schatten
Vancouver, B.C.

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen policy permits a one-time sales mention of
genealogically relevant books, software, websites and tours.


Re: MIELZINER and CARO(W) from Schubin/Szubin #scandinavia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Thank you very, very much!

Your information filled out som gaps in the Danish Jewish genealgy
I am working on. I often find some about whom the only information
is the date of birth -- then nothing. Or sometimes it is noted:
"Their fate unknown". With the help of other JewishGenners and now
you, I can fill in the gaps little by little. Hopefully, that will
prove to be a help in the future for other JewishGenners.

At 12:36 17-11-2002 +0100, Simon Srebrny wrote:

I have done a little research into the Mielziner family. I recently read
the early 19th century Jewish records for the tiny town of Schubin - now
Szubin - at the archives in Bydgoszcz (then Bromberg) because it was the
home town of part of my family. Since the Jewish community was also tiny, I
figured the likelihood of intermarriage between the local families must be
high, so I noted down all the Mielziner records I came across as well as my
family's and some others.
If you write the names you are looking for, I'll keep an eye out for them
if some of them came to Denmark.

...snip...
Ella MacKenna Friend Mielziner: Moses Mielziner, 1828-1903; A biography with
a bibliography of his writings. With a reproduction of his Slavery amongst
the ancient Hebrews and other works. Preface by Joshua Bloch
New York, 1931.
Have any of you got a copy or read it???
Unfortunately not. But I just checked and found out that they have it here
at the Royal Library. So now I'll have a look at it, perhaps copy it.

Below I have added some information in CAPITAL LETTERS PRECEEDED BY ***

parents of Benjamin Mielziner (names??)
| Rabbi Benjamin Mielziner*
| & Rosa Caro
| | Rabbi Salomon Mielziner
*** D. 17. SEP. 1897, BURIED JEWISH NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN
*** MARRIED TO EMILIE LEVIN, D. 8. MAR. 1884, BURIED JEWISH
NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN
*** A SON, LUDVIG MIELZINER, B. 5. SEP. 1856, D. 5. MAR. 1885, BURIED JEWISH
NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN

| | | Susanna Rosalia Mielziner
| | | b. 9 Feb 1855, Aalborg, Denmark
*** D. 21. JUL. 1926, COPENHAGEN

| | | & Moritz Cohen
| | | b. ca 1853
*** B. 14. FEB. 1853, COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
*** D. 24. NOV. 1911, COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
*** OCCUPATION: senior bank clerk
(A LONG LINE OF ANCESTORS ARE KNOWN)

| | | m. 8 Nov 1881, Aalborg, Denmark
THREE CHILDREN:
ELISA COHEN, B. 17. JAN. 1883, COPENHAGEN
EMIL COHEN, B. 3. AUG. 1884, COPENHAGEN
GOTFRED COHEN, B. 5. SEP. 1886, COPENHAGEN
...SNIP...
| | | Rabbi Jacob Mielziner
| | | b. 19 Sep 1877, Manhattan, New York
*** MARRIED TO ASTRID PHILIPSEN
TWO CHILDREN:
VIGA ROSETTE MIELZINER B. 1915
ORLA HILLEL MIELZINER B 1921

If anyone else has further information it will be greatly appreciated.

Best regards
and thanks once more!

---------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's
SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
---------------------------------------


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Re: MIELZINER and CARO(W) from Schubin/Szubin #scandinavia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Thank you very, very much!

Your information filled out som gaps in the Danish Jewish genealgy
I am working on. I often find some about whom the only information
is the date of birth -- then nothing. Or sometimes it is noted:
"Their fate unknown". With the help of other JewishGenners and now
you, I can fill in the gaps little by little. Hopefully, that will
prove to be a help in the future for other JewishGenners.

At 12:36 17-11-2002 +0100, Simon Srebrny wrote:

I have done a little research into the Mielziner family. I recently read
the early 19th century Jewish records for the tiny town of Schubin - now
Szubin - at the archives in Bydgoszcz (then Bromberg) because it was the
home town of part of my family. Since the Jewish community was also tiny, I
figured the likelihood of intermarriage between the local families must be
high, so I noted down all the Mielziner records I came across as well as my
family's and some others.
If you write the names you are looking for, I'll keep an eye out for them
if some of them came to Denmark.

...snip...
Ella MacKenna Friend Mielziner: Moses Mielziner, 1828-1903; A biography with
a bibliography of his writings. With a reproduction of his Slavery amongst
the ancient Hebrews and other works. Preface by Joshua Bloch
New York, 1931.
Have any of you got a copy or read it???
Unfortunately not. But I just checked and found out that they have it here
at the Royal Library. So now I'll have a look at it, perhaps copy it.

Below I have added some information in CAPITAL LETTERS PRECEEDED BY ***

parents of Benjamin Mielziner (names??)
| Rabbi Benjamin Mielziner*
| & Rosa Caro
| | Rabbi Salomon Mielziner
*** D. 17. SEP. 1897, BURIED JEWISH NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN
*** MARRIED TO EMILIE LEVIN, D. 8. MAR. 1884, BURIED JEWISH
NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN
*** A SON, LUDVIG MIELZINER, B. 5. SEP. 1856, D. 5. MAR. 1885, BURIED JEWISH
NORTHERN CEMETERY, COPENHAGEN

| | | Susanna Rosalia Mielziner
| | | b. 9 Feb 1855, Aalborg, Denmark
*** D. 21. JUL. 1926, COPENHAGEN

| | | & Moritz Cohen
| | | b. ca 1853
*** B. 14. FEB. 1853, COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
*** D. 24. NOV. 1911, COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
*** OCCUPATION: senior bank clerk
(A LONG LINE OF ANCESTORS ARE KNOWN)

| | | m. 8 Nov 1881, Aalborg, Denmark
THREE CHILDREN:
ELISA COHEN, B. 17. JAN. 1883, COPENHAGEN
EMIL COHEN, B. 3. AUG. 1884, COPENHAGEN
GOTFRED COHEN, B. 5. SEP. 1886, COPENHAGEN
...SNIP...
| | | Rabbi Jacob Mielziner
| | | b. 19 Sep 1877, Manhattan, New York
*** MARRIED TO ASTRID PHILIPSEN
TWO CHILDREN:
VIGA ROSETTE MIELZINER B. 1915
ORLA HILLEL MIELZINER B 1921

If anyone else has further information it will be greatly appreciated.

Best regards
and thanks once more!

---------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's
SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
http://home.worldonline.dk/~epaikin/
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
---------------------------------------


Subject: 1881 UK Census on line #unitedkingdom

s kay
 

My responses to Renee Menno & to Jeremy Frankel are:

Renee: You can reach the Previous/Next Household
options by progressing through the following steps on
the 1881 UK census search on http://familysearch.org/

1. Search the name of the person you want
2. >from the list of people (if there is more than
one), double click on the one you want
3. On the resulting screen, to the right of the
person's name, are two options: Next Individual, or
Household.
4. Double click on Household.
5. On the resulting screen, to the right are the
options: Previous Household, or Next Household.
Double click on the one you want ……. And, that's it!

Enjoy!


Jeremy:- I really envy your access to the Mormon
library records - however here, in Israel, there is NO
Mormon library. So, for me, this 1881 UK census on
line is absolutely wonderful!!!

All the best,

Sylvia Kaye
Israel


December meeting of the JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County will be having its
next meeting on Sunday, December 8, 2002. Mark Halpern will talk
about "Jewish Records Indexing (JRI-Poland): 1,800,000 record indices
and more.". The goal of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland)
is to create a searchable on-line database of the indices of 19th
century Jewish records >from current and former territories of Poland.
Where such records are available, they may include towns that are now
part of Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus.

The main meeting starts at 2PM and is held at the JCC on the Palisades
in Tenafly. The JCC of the Palisades is located at 401 East Clinton
Avenue in Tenafly. Their phone number is 201-569-7900.

Meetings start with a schmooze session at 12:30 at the offices of
Avotaynu in Bergenfield. Avotaynu has a 400-book library about Jewish
genealogy and the Holocaust which you can browse. The purpose of the
schmooze session is to ask questions about that can advance your
personal research. Do you have any brick walls that are slowing your
research? Perhaps other members of JGSBCNJ can help you.

If you need directions, go to our homepage at
http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc/

* * * About Mark Halpern * * *
Mark Halpern is a member of the Board of JRI-Poland and Archive
Coordinator for projects in Eastern Galicia, Bialystok, and Tykocin.
Mark is also currently Vice President of the JGS Greater Philadelphia.

* * * Upcoming meetings * * *
January 12, 2003: Rhoda Miller will talk about 'Untangling the Web:
Learn pathways through the maze of the Internet to enable you to trace
the people, places, and social history of your family.'

February 9, 2003: Ask the experts. Bring us your toughest genealogical
problems, and see if our panel of experts can help.

March 9, 2003: Edward Rosenbaum will talk about "A beginners guide to
Jewish Genealogy". Learn how the information in one document can help
you find other pieces of information.

May 18, 2003: Anna Olswanger will talk about "Jewish Ethical Wills: >from
Family History to Fiction"

* * * Membership * * *
January marks the beginning of our new membership year. If you are not
already a member for 2003, please consider joining. If you have been a
member in the past, please renew your membership. Membership in the
JGS of Bergen County entitles you to submit questions to our 'ask the
experts' column of our newsletter, "The Gatherers". In addition,
members can borrow selected books and tapes >from our 400 book library.
Please start your membership by mailing a tax deductible check for $20
($25 for couples) to

JGS of Bergen County c/o Edward Rosenbaum 135 Chestnut Ridge Road
Montvale, NJ 07645
* * *

Sincerely, Edward L. Rosenbaum President JGS of Bergen County, NJ

About the JGS of Bergen county

We are an organization of Jewish genealogists who are enjoying the
growing pastime of tracing our families' roots back to the Old Country
and collecting records of our family, some of them hundreds of years
old. The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County is one of over
70 member organizations of the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


A Message from your Moderators #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Genners,

The online list of JewishGen General Fund contributors has
been updated to 30 September, 2002, and can be viewed at:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contributions.html>

Those whose donations were received after 5 August 2002 are
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in the "first annual appeal" which was announced on that date.

We are grateful for the gen-erosity of the many UkraineSIG members
whose names are included.

A very big THANK YOU to ALL whose names appear on this list,
or on the JewishGen Wall of Honor, or on the private list of
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We can all remember back to the time when we were children....
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because it meant we could get that 'something special' that
we really wanted. (JewishGen is now that "growing child' !")

If you are not yet a member of one of these supporter groups
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Subject: 1881 UK Census on line #unitedkingdom

s kay
 

My responses to Renee Menno & to Jeremy Frankel are:

Renee: You can reach the Previous/Next Household
options by progressing through the following steps on
the 1881 UK census search on http://familysearch.org/

1. Search the name of the person you want
2. >from the list of people (if there is more than
one), double click on the one you want
3. On the resulting screen, to the right of the
person's name, are two options: Next Individual, or
Household.
4. Double click on Household.
5. On the resulting screen, to the right are the
options: Previous Household, or Next Household.
Double click on the one you want ……. And, that's it!

Enjoy!


Jeremy:- I really envy your access to the Mormon
library records - however here, in Israel, there is NO
Mormon library. So, for me, this 1881 UK census on
line is absolutely wonderful!!!

All the best,

Sylvia Kaye
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen December meeting of the JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey #general

Edward Rosenbaum <erosenbaum@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County will be having its
next meeting on Sunday, December 8, 2002. Mark Halpern will talk
about "Jewish Records Indexing (JRI-Poland): 1,800,000 record indices
and more.". The goal of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland)
is to create a searchable on-line database of the indices of 19th
century Jewish records >from current and former territories of Poland.
Where such records are available, they may include towns that are now
part of Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus.

The main meeting starts at 2PM and is held at the JCC on the Palisades
in Tenafly. The JCC of the Palisades is located at 401 East Clinton
Avenue in Tenafly. Their phone number is 201-569-7900.

Meetings start with a schmooze session at 12:30 at the offices of
Avotaynu in Bergenfield. Avotaynu has a 400-book library about Jewish
genealogy and the Holocaust which you can browse. The purpose of the
schmooze session is to ask questions about that can advance your
personal research. Do you have any brick walls that are slowing your
research? Perhaps other members of JGSBCNJ can help you.

If you need directions, go to our homepage at
http://erosenbaum.netfirms.com/jgsbc/

* * * About Mark Halpern * * *
Mark Halpern is a member of the Board of JRI-Poland and Archive
Coordinator for projects in Eastern Galicia, Bialystok, and Tykocin.
Mark is also currently Vice President of the JGS Greater Philadelphia.

* * * Upcoming meetings * * *
January 12, 2003: Rhoda Miller will talk about 'Untangling the Web:
Learn pathways through the maze of the Internet to enable you to trace
the people, places, and social history of your family.'

February 9, 2003: Ask the experts. Bring us your toughest genealogical
problems, and see if our panel of experts can help.

March 9, 2003: Edward Rosenbaum will talk about "A beginners guide to
Jewish Genealogy". Learn how the information in one document can help
you find other pieces of information.

May 18, 2003: Anna Olswanger will talk about "Jewish Ethical Wills: >from
Family History to Fiction"

* * * Membership * * *
January marks the beginning of our new membership year. If you are not
already a member for 2003, please consider joining. If you have been a
member in the past, please renew your membership. Membership in the
JGS of Bergen County entitles you to submit questions to our 'ask the
experts' column of our newsletter, "The Gatherers". In addition,
members can borrow selected books and tapes >from our 400 book library.
Please start your membership by mailing a tax deductible check for $20
($25 for couples) to

JGS of Bergen County c/o Edward Rosenbaum 135 Chestnut Ridge Road
Montvale, NJ 07645
* * *

Sincerely, Edward L. Rosenbaum President JGS of Bergen County, NJ

About the JGS of Bergen county

We are an organization of Jewish genealogists who are enjoying the
growing pastime of tracing our families' roots back to the Old Country
and collecting records of our family, some of them hundreds of years
old. The Jewish Genealogical Society of Bergen County is one of over
70 member organizations of the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine A Message from your Moderators #ukraine

FREYAB@...
 

Dear Genners,

The online list of JewishGen General Fund contributors has
been updated to 30 September, 2002, and can be viewed at:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contributions.html>

Those whose donations were received after 5 August 2002 are
listed in boldface type. This is to highlight the donor's participation
in the "first annual appeal" which was announced on that date.

We are grateful for the gen-erosity of the many UkraineSIG members
whose names are included.

A very big THANK YOU to ALL whose names appear on this list,
or on the JewishGen Wall of Honor, or on the private list of
UkraineSig Research Fund contributors.

We can all remember back to the time when we were children....
and Chanukah Gelt was always one of the most favored gifts
because it meant we could get that 'something special' that
we really wanted. (JewishGen is now that "growing child' !")

If you are not yet a member of one of these supporter groups
please join us today. Any amount by check -
or $10.00 minimum by credit card - will be gladly accepted
and promptly acknowledged.

For credit card transactions use the URL at the top of this
email message to reach the JewishGen Secure Webform.
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/>
For donations by check or money order make the instrument
payable to: JewishGen, Inc.

and mail it to:

JewishGen, Inc.
2951 Marina Bay Dr., Suite 130-472
League City, TX 77573

Many thanks,

Your UkraineSig Moderating Team.


galician marriage laws #ukraine

genielady@...
 

i have recieved a copy of my ggf birth record >from the ukraine. when he was
born in 1870, it was bolekhov austria. it states that he was not legitimized
until 1893 and that his father confirmed his paternity, therefore being
illegitimate. am i correct that jews were not allowed to marry then and
therefore only lived as man and wife until the laws were changed?
lynn weisberg
baltimore, md.
RESEARCHING: LOBMAN


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine galician marriage laws #ukraine

genielady@...
 

i have recieved a copy of my ggf birth record >from the ukraine. when he was
born in 1870, it was bolekhov austria. it states that he was not legitimized
until 1893 and that his father confirmed his paternity, therefore being
illegitimate. am i correct that jews were not allowed to marry then and
therefore only lived as man and wife until the laws were changed?
lynn weisberg
baltimore, md.
RESEARCHING: LOBMAN


re Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN from Sandomierz #poland

Marilyn Glass <mgglass@...>
 

I recently discovered the year of marriage for my husband's great
grandmother Alta ZILBERSTEIN and her twin sister Nuchuma ZILBERSTEIN. Alta
married Josek Baruch GLASS in 1890 and Nuchma married Nuta Bejer ROSENBAUM
in 1899.

In the same Sandomierz, Poland data where the above information was
obtained, there are a few other ZILBERSTEINs listed but, one stands out in
my mind and that is of a Josek Szyia ZILBERSTEIN who married Estera Witla
BOOKER in 1888. Perhaps Josek was a sibling of Alta and Nuchuma or may be a
cousin???

Thank you for reading the above and I hope some of the information contained
in this email sounds familiar. I may be reached at mgglass@rogers.com.

Best wishes,

Marilyn PLATNICK GLASS
Toronto, Ontario Canada


Re: jri-pl digest: November 15, 2002 #poland

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In a message dated 11/16/2002 1:02:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:


How do I change my email address to continue to receive jri-pl digest
and
JEWISHGEN Digest?
At the bottow of each digest are directions on how to unsubscribe. Do that
with your old e-mail address. Then subscribe to each with your new address.