I am trying to find mid-19th century civil or Jewish records for Tharandt,
Germany, which is in Saxony and near Dresden. Does anyone know who I can
contact for such records. Is there an archives in Saxony that would have
them? I believe my great grandfather Jacob Carl SALOMON was born in
Tharandt in 1864 and his sister Rosa SALOMON Simon was born there around
1857/58.

David Solomon Chevy Chase, Maryland SOL2516171@aol.com

I am trying to find mid-19th century civil or Jewish records for Tharandt,
Germany, which is in Saxony and near Dresden. Does anyone know who I can
contact for such records. Is there an archives in Saxony that would have
them? I believe my great grandfather Jacob Carl SALOMON was born in
Tharandt in 1864 and his sister Rosa SALOMON Simon was born there around
1857/58.

David Solomon Chevy Chase, Maryland SOL2516171@aol.com

I do not dispute that many Jewish names in Germany were based on place-
names with which the person was associated but in my own family I have
found some hard-to explain family names.

My ggf, Leib SPEIER (which is already a place name, though the Speiers
came >from Hof), wrote in the "Family Book" in 1872 that he took the name
HOLSTEIN, though the family; lived near Kassel and had no apparent
connection with the province of Holstein.

Leib Speier-Holstein also traces his ancestry to the PLAUT family of
Neuenbrunslar, which again is not near Schleswig-Holstein.

Another mystery regarding the "taking" of additional names are the various
descendants of Josef Plaut who added names such as Dannenberg, Stern and
Koenig to the Plaut name.

Often the original name (Plaut, Speier) was dropped and only the newer
name retained by future generations.

Irwin Schiffres, Rochester,, NY

Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen),
SPEIER or SPEYER (Hof or Hoof), KAHN (Alsace, Belgium),
SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN (Grodno)

I do not dispute that many Jewish names in Germany were based on place-
names with which the person was associated but in my own family I have
found some hard-to explain family names.

My ggf, Leib SPEIER (which is already a place name, though the Speiers
came >from Hof), wrote in the "Family Book" in 1872 that he took the name
HOLSTEIN, though the family; lived near Kassel and had no apparent
connection with the province of Holstein.

Leib Speier-Holstein also traces his ancestry to the PLAUT family of
Neuenbrunslar, which again is not near Schleswig-Holstein.

Another mystery regarding the "taking" of additional names are the various
descendants of Josef Plaut who added names such as Dannenberg, Stern and
Koenig to the Plaut name.

Often the original name (Plaut, Speier) was dropped and only the newer
name retained by future generations.

Irwin Schiffres, Rochester,, NY

Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen),
SPEIER or SPEYER (Hof or Hoof), KAHN (Alsace, Belgium),
SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno), HALPERN/GALPERN (Grodno)

Hello
I am trying to trace both sides of Family. The Hoffman famiy lived in
Stettin, Germany (now Poland) Martha and Dagobert Hoffman owned a
furniture store in Stettin and had two daughters. I do not know where
either were born and do not know how to get that information. Also do not
know name of parents. Any help appreciated as to what to do next.

Lewin family : Jakob LEWIN born 9/26/1823
Married Emma LOWENBERG
Had 4 sons (1 named Paul, 1 named ?Sanny?)and two others
names unknown
Paul LEWIN born in Halle u/s later married Rosa BOEHM
(born in Oberlangstadt Had 6 children who emigrated (>from there on I have
info)

Any information or help appreciated. Know that Paul and Rosa divorced in
1921 in Weisbaden. I also know that Sanny(?) moved to the San Diego area
before the holocaust.

THANKS For any help you can give as to researh or connection to family
tree.

Ann Lewin CITY? STATE?

Hello
I am trying to trace both sides of Family. The Hoffman famiy lived in
Stettin, Germany (now Poland) Martha and Dagobert Hoffman owned a
furniture store in Stettin and had two daughters. I do not know where
either were born and do not know how to get that information. Also do not
know name of parents. Any help appreciated as to what to do next.

Lewin family : Jakob LEWIN born 9/26/1823
Married Emma LOWENBERG
Had 4 sons (1 named Paul, 1 named ?Sanny?)and two others
names unknown
Paul LEWIN born in Halle u/s later married Rosa BOEHM
(born in Oberlangstadt Had 6 children who emigrated (>from there on I have
info)

Any information or help appreciated. Know that Paul and Rosa divorced in
1921 in Weisbaden. I also know that Sanny(?) moved to the San Diego area
before the holocaust.

THANKS For any help you can give as to researh or connection to family
tree.

Ann Lewin CITY? STATE?

I am searching for Beryl Schveid >from Vertuzhany in the district of Soroca.
Beryl came to the United States, married, had a son, divorced and went back
to Vertuzhany. Beryl' son remained in the United States with his mother.
Beryl's father was Menasha. His mother was Zelda. I would like to find
Beryl's descedents. I am looked on Ellis Island with no success. Does
anyone out there have any ideas for me? Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

Greetings, Genners:

Does anyone have World Family Tree Volume 64? I am specifically looking for
Tree 2235. Please respond privately.

Amy Waldinger
http://waldinger.net
http://zarchin.com

I am searching for Beryl Schveid >from Vertuzhany in the district of Soroca.
Beryl came to the United States, married, had a son, divorced and went back
to Vertuzhany. Beryl' son remained in the United States with his mother.
Beryl's father was Menasha. His mother was Zelda. I would like to find
Beryl's descedents. I am looked on Ellis Island with no success. Does
anyone out there have any ideas for me? Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

Greetings, Genners:

Does anyone have World Family Tree Volume 64? I am specifically looking for
Tree 2235. Please respond privately.

Amy Waldinger
http://waldinger.net
http://zarchin.com

In Holocaust-era records for the town of Czestochowa, I find these
three words as a person's profession:

"Rzezak i kantor"

Several native Polish speakers were unable to translate these into
English. Can anyone help with this?

Dan

"Rzezak" performed circumcision.
"Kantor" means singer (in the sinagogue).

Kris Murawski
Annandale, VA

In Holocaust-era records for the town of Czestochowa, I find these
three words as a person's profession:

"Rzezak i kantor"

Several native Polish speakers were unable to translate these into
English. Can anyone help with this?

Dan

"Rzezak" performed circumcision.
"Kantor" means singer (in the sinagogue).

Kris Murawski
Annandale, VA

I received this message posted on the LitvakSIG newsgroup and have
permission to post it on ours. I think you should take a look at the site
as Nancy has done a great job with the Historical details. It points out
just how much information is required for just one Country. She has
focussed on Belarus. I think that this page will also be of interest to
Latvian Researchers. She has done a great deal of work and is to be commended.

Arlene Beare
UK


Dear Fellow Litvaks,

This message is being posted at the request of Edward Rosenbaum, webmaster
of the Belarus SIG, who is not a LitvakSIG subscriber.

A new and very useful feature created by Nancy Holden, has been added to
the BelarusSIG website:

"Timeline Consequences of Border Changes-the History of the
Administrative-Territorial Division of Belarus" spans the years
1569-January 2000 and provides information on the ruling country,
district(s) involved and comments which explain the direct consequences on
the Jewish population. Many Gubernias and uezds of modern day Lithuania are
included in the District column.

It can be accessed using the following URL:

http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/borders_timeline.htm

This timeline clarified several questions I had regarding the borders of
the Vilna Gubernia, administratvie district of Oshmyany (today in Belarus)
which was part of the "Lithuanian" area of the Russian Empire in the
1830'-1840's when my ancestors lived there.

It should prove very useful to Litvak researchers with questions regarding
administrative border changes and their timeframes.

Eden S. Joachim
Pomona, New York

BARON, KAPLAN, GOLDBERG,HALPERN - Aukstadvaris, Trakai Uezd, Vilnius,
Oshmiany, Belarus and Stokliskes

EDENSARA@aol.com

I received this message posted on the LitvakSIG newsgroup and have
permission to post it on ours. I think you should take a look at the site
as Nancy has done a great job with the Historical details. It points out
just how much information is required for just one Country. She has
focussed on Belarus. I think that this page will also be of interest to
Latvian Researchers. She has done a great deal of work and is to be commended.

Arlene Beare
UK


Dear Fellow Litvaks,

This message is being posted at the request of Edward Rosenbaum, webmaster
of the Belarus SIG, who is not a LitvakSIG subscriber.

A new and very useful feature created by Nancy Holden, has been added to
the BelarusSIG website:

"Timeline Consequences of Border Changes-the History of the
Administrative-Territorial Division of Belarus" spans the years
1569-January 2000 and provides information on the ruling country,
district(s) involved and comments which explain the direct consequences on
the Jewish population. Many Gubernias and uezds of modern day Lithuania are
included in the District column.

It can be accessed using the following URL:

http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/borders_timeline.htm

This timeline clarified several questions I had regarding the borders of
the Vilna Gubernia, administratvie district of Oshmyany (today in Belarus)
which was part of the "Lithuanian" area of the Russian Empire in the
1830'-1840's when my ancestors lived there.

It should prove very useful to Litvak researchers with questions regarding
administrative border changes and their timeframes.

Eden S. Joachim
Pomona, New York

BARON, KAPLAN, GOLDBERG,HALPERN - Aukstadvaris, Trakai Uezd, Vilnius,
Oshmiany, Belarus and Stokliskes

EDENSARA@aol.com

In article <3DB81414.80100@sciti.com>,
Stephanie Weiner <laguna@sciti.com> wrote:

I have found information on a relative living in Amesbury, MA in
1903-1904. His occupation is listed as "scourer." Anyone have a clue
what a scourer did??

It seems likely to me that the occupation would be a wool scourer or scourer
of some other form of textile. >from my limited knowlege of the US. I think
that region had a lot of textile mills during that era.(it still may have
for all I know)
One textile industry that still exists in some small towns, in the sheep
grazing lands of inland eastern Australia where I live, is a wool scour
where the grease & burrs etc. are removed >from fleeces. Those who work in
this industry are often called scourers.
I hope this helps,
Myer O'Donnell

Hello,

I have a picture of my grandfather dressed in uniform sometime during Waorld
War II. Someone wrote in "Dow Field." Any clue where this would be?

He was registered into the Service in the Bronx, New York and was in the Army
Air Force.

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, NY

Looking for researcher #3591, Abby Grissinger, researching
Lobatch family. Thank you
Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.

Dear Ms Weiner
It is most likely that your relative in Amesbury, MA was working in the
Textile Industry. During the time frame that you noted, 1903 - 1904,
the Textile Industry was probably the main employer, aside >from Fishery,
in MA and the entire New England area.
A Scourer had a hard, WET and HOT job during any season of the
year...especially during the Summer.
Although fabric processed in the area included all types of fibers,
Scouring most often referred to the cleaning of raw wool fibers, prior
to spinning into yarn for weaving. The raw stock SMELLED AWFUL. It was
dirty work..."what kind of job was that for a Jewish boy...?
Elliott Terman

In article <3DB81414.80100@sciti.com>,
Stephanie Weiner <laguna@sciti.com> wrote:

I have found information on a relative living in Amesbury, MA in
1903-1904. His occupation is listed as "scourer." Anyone have a clue
what a scourer did??

It seems likely to me that the occupation would be a wool scourer or scourer
of some other form of textile. >from my limited knowlege of the US. I think
that region had a lot of textile mills during that era.(it still may have
for all I know)
One textile industry that still exists in some small towns, in the sheep
grazing lands of inland eastern Australia where I live, is a wool scour
where the grease & burrs etc. are removed >from fleeces. Those who work in
this industry are often called scourers.
I hope this helps,
Myer O'Donnell

Hello,

I have a picture of my grandfather dressed in uniform sometime during Waorld
War II. Someone wrote in "Dow Field." Any clue where this would be?

He was registered into the Service in the Bronx, New York and was in the Army
Air Force.

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, NY