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SocSec Infomation #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear members,

once again I would like to draw your attention to the horrible
combination of associations a sentence like the one that occurred
in Alex's mail

"He died in 1950 and is not present in the SS Death Index."

can provoke. We had this discussion before in this list and
perhaps it is time to remind newcomers of ways how to avoid this.

Thanks a lot,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Alex wrote:

Subject: Gov't sent me wrong SS-5 form; now what?
From: "Alex Bender" <alemik@pacbell.net>
Given that the wrong form was sent to me, is there any way to
know whether or not my ancestor actually applied for Social
Security? He died in 1950 and is not present in the SS Death Index.
It seems to me that either he didn't apply and therefore no record
exists, or he did and the person searching screwed up or
overlooked the record. This uncertainty will surely drive me crazy!
MODERATOR NOTE: The discussion to which Mr. Neubauer refers
took place in October 2000. A search in the JewishGen Discussion
Group Archives for "SS" during October 2000 will turn up a number
of messages, most with the subject line "SS" or "Please, no more SS!"
suggesting use of other abbreviations (such as "SSA" or "SocSec"),
particularly when referring to the death index. You can find the
archives at http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SocSec Infomation #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear members,

once again I would like to draw your attention to the horrible
combination of associations a sentence like the one that occurred
in Alex's mail

"He died in 1950 and is not present in the SS Death Index."

can provoke. We had this discussion before in this list and
perhaps it is time to remind newcomers of ways how to avoid this.

Thanks a lot,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Alex wrote:

Subject: Gov't sent me wrong SS-5 form; now what?
From: "Alex Bender" <alemik@pacbell.net>
Given that the wrong form was sent to me, is there any way to
know whether or not my ancestor actually applied for Social
Security? He died in 1950 and is not present in the SS Death Index.
It seems to me that either he didn't apply and therefore no record
exists, or he did and the person searching screwed up or
overlooked the record. This uncertainty will surely drive me crazy!
MODERATOR NOTE: The discussion to which Mr. Neubauer refers
took place in October 2000. A search in the JewishGen Discussion
Group Archives for "SS" during October 2000 will turn up a number
of messages, most with the subject line "SS" or "Please, no more SS!"
suggesting use of other abbreviations (such as "SSA" or "SocSec"),
particularly when referring to the death index. You can find the
archives at http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop


New coordinator for Bobruisk Yizkor Book #general

David Gordon <dgordon@...>
 

My name is David Gordon and I am writing to introduce myself
as the new volunteer coordinator for the Bobruisk Yizkor Book.

For those whose ancestors came >from this region of Belarus,
you may be aware of the two-volume yizkor book that exists.
JewishGen's Yizkor Book Project exists, among other reasons,
to procure and post translations of the articles, memoirs, and
other pieces published in these books that recall and recreate
the lost world of the shtetlach involved. The general address
for the project is
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/

One of my duties as the coordinator for the Bobruisk book is
to facilitate new translations. In that regard, I write now
to appeal to all those who are able to either translate (>from
Yiddish or Hebrew into English) or contribute financially to
making future translations possible. It has been several years
since any new translations >from "our" book have appeared. I
would very much like to change that. But I cannot do it myself;
I need your help. The first several hundred pages of the books
have already been translated, providing a history of Bobruisk
from the beginning to the twentieth century. But there are
dozens, if not hundreds, of articles that remain untranslated.
Most of them are very short--only a page or two.

The home page for the Bobruisk book can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bobruisk/bysktoc1.html
If you have never visited, please take a good look at this page.
If you haven't visited lately, please look again. That page
acknowledges the translators who have already contributed. It
also lists, courtesy of the indefatigable Don Mopsick, a complete
translation of the entire table of contents.

Perhaps you will recognize a family shtetl. I will not belabor
the (I hope) obvious value of obtaining and posting new
translations. I will only repeat what I said above: I need your
help. Are you able to donate a translation? Do you know someone
who might be able to do so even if you can't? Are you interested
enough in your family to donate the cost of a translated article
or even a portion of an article? That's all it takes.

Please contact me. I am eager to be able to add to our collective
knowledge and I look forward to helping you making it happen.

Thanks.

David Gordon
Chicago, Illinois
dgordon@interaccess.com

P.S. For those who are interested, my maternal grandfather
was born in Lapichi. I wrote a travelogue of my trip to Belarus
(including Minsk and Lapichi) in November 2001. It is posted
(with photographs) at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_travelogue.htm


Reicha INTILIGATOR #general

Curiousyl@...
 

A friend asked me to post this message:
Searching for family of Reicha INTILIGATOR, sister of Reisa
INTILIGATOR born 1852, married to Shia TANKEL, died c.1924-1935,
in Zagare, Lithuania. Reicha was the mother of Simon MICHLOVITZ,
who immigrated to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania before 1924. Children
were living in Harrisburg. Family name LOCKE.

Please reply to curiousyl@aol.com and I will forward responses
to my friend.

Thank you.
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida


Siauliai/Shavel Passengers #general

Carol Baker <carolcbaker@...>
 

If you are a contributor to the Siauliai District Research
Group and did not receive a file today of Ellis Island
passenger arrivals, please get in touch with me (privately
- at carolcbaker@attbi.com)

Carol Baker
Coordinator


Nobody (was: Wm. the Conquerer/King David) #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Since I'm the one who brought up the William the Conqueror/
King David thread, I feel some proprietary rights. So here's
my own two cents to add to the thread. I have a ton of
important people in my tree, and I am so proud of them, but
it recently hit me that I myself am nobody; I just record the
deeds of the somebodies in my tree. This thought came to me
when a great man contacted me and introduced himself to me
(as if I didn't know who he was). I felt I had to tell him
about myself, but there wasn't much to tell. I haven't received
any Nobel Prizes or written any 4 volume books, or fought in
any wars, or even survived an epidemic. I'm just a lurker in
the tree...

Varda Epstein
Efrat
Israel
yknow@netvision.net.il


Immigration from England #general

Linda Kern <lkern1@...>
 

My great grandfather and his family went >from Poland to
England on the way to New York. In 1876, my grandfather
was born in London, and sometime that year they left for
the United States. I don't know when they left Poland
nor how long they were in London. They arrived in New York
as far as I know. Some of my grandfather's sisters and
brothers were born in N.Y. I would like to know of the
possible ports they might have left England from, bound
for the U.S. Would they have probably left >from Liverpool
or are there other ports? I also don't have any idea which
ship they came on. Any suggestions would help.

Linda Kern
WLV Ca.
lkern1@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New coordinator for Bobruisk Yizkor Book #general

David Gordon <dgordon@...>
 

My name is David Gordon and I am writing to introduce myself
as the new volunteer coordinator for the Bobruisk Yizkor Book.

For those whose ancestors came >from this region of Belarus,
you may be aware of the two-volume yizkor book that exists.
JewishGen's Yizkor Book Project exists, among other reasons,
to procure and post translations of the articles, memoirs, and
other pieces published in these books that recall and recreate
the lost world of the shtetlach involved. The general address
for the project is
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/

One of my duties as the coordinator for the Bobruisk book is
to facilitate new translations. In that regard, I write now
to appeal to all those who are able to either translate (>from
Yiddish or Hebrew into English) or contribute financially to
making future translations possible. It has been several years
since any new translations >from "our" book have appeared. I
would very much like to change that. But I cannot do it myself;
I need your help. The first several hundred pages of the books
have already been translated, providing a history of Bobruisk
from the beginning to the twentieth century. But there are
dozens, if not hundreds, of articles that remain untranslated.
Most of them are very short--only a page or two.

The home page for the Bobruisk book can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bobruisk/bysktoc1.html
If you have never visited, please take a good look at this page.
If you haven't visited lately, please look again. That page
acknowledges the translators who have already contributed. It
also lists, courtesy of the indefatigable Don Mopsick, a complete
translation of the entire table of contents.

Perhaps you will recognize a family shtetl. I will not belabor
the (I hope) obvious value of obtaining and posting new
translations. I will only repeat what I said above: I need your
help. Are you able to donate a translation? Do you know someone
who might be able to do so even if you can't? Are you interested
enough in your family to donate the cost of a translated article
or even a portion of an article? That's all it takes.

Please contact me. I am eager to be able to add to our collective
knowledge and I look forward to helping you making it happen.

Thanks.

David Gordon
Chicago, Illinois
dgordon@interaccess.com

P.S. For those who are interested, my maternal grandfather
was born in Lapichi. I wrote a travelogue of my trip to Belarus
(including Minsk and Lapichi) in November 2001. It is posted
(with photographs) at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/belarus_travelogue.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reicha INTILIGATOR #general

Curiousyl@...
 

A friend asked me to post this message:
Searching for family of Reicha INTILIGATOR, sister of Reisa
INTILIGATOR born 1852, married to Shia TANKEL, died c.1924-1935,
in Zagare, Lithuania. Reicha was the mother of Simon MICHLOVITZ,
who immigrated to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania before 1924. Children
were living in Harrisburg. Family name LOCKE.

Please reply to curiousyl@aol.com and I will forward responses
to my friend.

Thank you.
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Siauliai/Shavel Passengers #general

Carol Baker <carolcbaker@...>
 

If you are a contributor to the Siauliai District Research
Group and did not receive a file today of Ellis Island
passenger arrivals, please get in touch with me (privately
- at carolcbaker@attbi.com)

Carol Baker
Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nobody (was: Wm. the Conquerer/King David) #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Since I'm the one who brought up the William the Conqueror/
King David thread, I feel some proprietary rights. So here's
my own two cents to add to the thread. I have a ton of
important people in my tree, and I am so proud of them, but
it recently hit me that I myself am nobody; I just record the
deeds of the somebodies in my tree. This thought came to me
when a great man contacted me and introduced himself to me
(as if I didn't know who he was). I felt I had to tell him
about myself, but there wasn't much to tell. I haven't received
any Nobel Prizes or written any 4 volume books, or fought in
any wars, or even survived an epidemic. I'm just a lurker in
the tree...

Varda Epstein
Efrat
Israel
yknow@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Immigration from England #general

Linda Kern <lkern1@...>
 

My great grandfather and his family went >from Poland to
England on the way to New York. In 1876, my grandfather
was born in London, and sometime that year they left for
the United States. I don't know when they left Poland
nor how long they were in London. They arrived in New York
as far as I know. Some of my grandfather's sisters and
brothers were born in N.Y. I would like to know of the
possible ports they might have left England from, bound
for the U.S. Would they have probably left >from Liverpool
or are there other ports? I also don't have any idea which
ship they came on. Any suggestions would help.

Linda Kern
WLV Ca.
lkern1@ix.netcom.com


Re: need translation from Belarussian #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

Don't doubt!
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit.
Why not. When I visited Belarus in 1994, over 95% of the belarusians spoke
Russian, not Belarusian. Shortly after, a referendum was held in which the
subject was:

Do you want Belarusian as the official language to be taught in the schools
to replace Russian?
And guess how the people voted Chaim?

They voted NO!

Larry Gaum


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: need translation from Belarussian #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

Don't doubt!
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit.
Why not. When I visited Belarus in 1994, over 95% of the belarusians spoke
Russian, not Belarusian. Shortly after, a referendum was held in which the
subject was:

Do you want Belarusian as the official language to be taught in the schools
to replace Russian?
And guess how the people voted Chaim?

They voted NO!

Larry Gaum


landsmanshaften records #belarus

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

Our fathers and grandfathers formed strong fraternal
organizations usually based of the shtetls >from which
they came. As these organizations died out in the
latter part of the twentieth century the organizations
which were legitimized by state governments were
required to return their papers to the state
government.In some cases these defunct records were
not returned and were retained by members privately.
This is not only illegal but also deprives us of
valuable genealogical resources. New York State turns
these records over to YIVO at the Center for Jewish
History so that researchers can add to our
genealogical knowledge. I know of little old ladies
out there who cling tenaciously to these papers. If
you know of anyone who has such records I urge you to
do all in your power to see that they are returned to
the state which permitted their organization.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr


Belarus SIG #Belarus landsmanshaften records #belarus

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

Our fathers and grandfathers formed strong fraternal
organizations usually based of the shtetls >from which
they came. As these organizations died out in the
latter part of the twentieth century the organizations
which were legitimized by state governments were
required to return their papers to the state
government.In some cases these defunct records were
not returned and were retained by members privately.
This is not only illegal but also deprives us of
valuable genealogical resources. New York State turns
these records over to YIVO at the Center for Jewish
History so that researchers can add to our
genealogical knowledge. I know of little old ladies
out there who cling tenaciously to these papers. If
you know of anyone who has such records I urge you to
do all in your power to see that they are returned to
the state which permitted their organization.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr


JGS Broward County Florida Meeting November 21, 2002 #general

kasakaplan@...
 

Subj: JGS of Broward County, Florida meeting
Date: November 21, 2002

To note Jewish Heritage Month, the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Broward County, Florida and the Broward County
South Regional Library will jointly sponsor a special
meeting. Because this is a special meeting, please note
that the date and place are different than the society's
regular meeting schedule.

Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002
Place: South Regional Library,
7300 Pines Boulevard
Pembroke Pines, Florida
Time: 7:00 PM

Keynote speakers will be Dr. Asher Bar-Zev, a rabbi with
22 years of congregational experience, and Dr. Haviva Dolgin
Langenauer,. Who will look at "Gravestones and Epitaphs:
Can You Believe What You Read?".

What can you expect to find on a headstone? Is the information
accurate? Can it lead you to real, true information about
your roots? Do epitaphs tell the truth? Was your uncle
Chiam really 110 when he died? Or was he only 75?

Dr. Bar-Zev and Dr. Langenauer will answer questions following
their presentation.

Find out about your Jewish heritage and what steps you can
take to rediscover it. The meeting is open to the public
without charge. Join us. For more information about the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, Inc., visit
the society's web site at www.jgsbroward.org.

For any additional information, driving instructions or
transportation, please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website.

Submitted by.
Elaine Kaplan, Secretary
Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, Inc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Broward County Florida Meeting November 21, 2002 #general

kasakaplan@...
 

Subj: JGS of Broward County, Florida meeting
Date: November 21, 2002

To note Jewish Heritage Month, the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Broward County, Florida and the Broward County
South Regional Library will jointly sponsor a special
meeting. Because this is a special meeting, please note
that the date and place are different than the society's
regular meeting schedule.

Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002
Place: South Regional Library,
7300 Pines Boulevard
Pembroke Pines, Florida
Time: 7:00 PM

Keynote speakers will be Dr. Asher Bar-Zev, a rabbi with
22 years of congregational experience, and Dr. Haviva Dolgin
Langenauer,. Who will look at "Gravestones and Epitaphs:
Can You Believe What You Read?".

What can you expect to find on a headstone? Is the information
accurate? Can it lead you to real, true information about
your roots? Do epitaphs tell the truth? Was your uncle
Chiam really 110 when he died? Or was he only 75?

Dr. Bar-Zev and Dr. Langenauer will answer questions following
their presentation.

Find out about your Jewish heritage and what steps you can
take to rediscover it. The meeting is open to the public
without charge. Join us. For more information about the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, Inc., visit
the society's web site at www.jgsbroward.org.

For any additional information, driving instructions or
transportation, please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website.

Submitted by.
Elaine Kaplan, Secretary
Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, Inc.


Named ancestors in Vienna pre-expulsion [17th Century] #germany

Florence & Henry Wellisch <kelwel@...>
 

The book "Das Wiener Ghetto" by Ignaz Schwarz, published in Vienna in
1909, contains extensive lists of Jewish inhabitants of the 2nd Vienna
ghetto of the 17th century.

Another book: "Das Judenbuch der Scheffstrasse zu Wien (1390-1420)" by
Artur Goldmann, published in Vienna in 1908 has also a lot of
information on Jewish inhabitants of the first ghetto of Vienna.

Henry Wellisch Toronto <kelwel@accglobal.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: Would an informed GerSig member volunteer to
write an essay in English on the Vienna expulsions? They seem
to have resulted in significant migration to German territories.
This would be a good addition to The GerSig Website. MOD


German SIG #Germany Named ancestors in Vienna pre-expulsion [17th Century] #germany

Florence & Henry Wellisch <kelwel@...>
 

The book "Das Wiener Ghetto" by Ignaz Schwarz, published in Vienna in
1909, contains extensive lists of Jewish inhabitants of the 2nd Vienna
ghetto of the 17th century.

Another book: "Das Judenbuch der Scheffstrasse zu Wien (1390-1420)" by
Artur Goldmann, published in Vienna in 1908 has also a lot of
information on Jewish inhabitants of the first ghetto of Vienna.

Henry Wellisch Toronto <kelwel@accglobal.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: Would an informed GerSig member volunteer to
write an essay in English on the Vienna expulsions? They seem
to have resulted in significant migration to German territories.
This would be a good addition to The GerSig Website. MOD