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Looking for family of Bryna GLUCKSTEIN from Kiev #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

My grandfather Jacob and his brother Morris Gluckstein had a
sister Bryna.

After they came to Canada >from Kiev, about 1895-1900, she married
and moved to California. I don't know her married name, but my
cousin here told me that she had a son in the movie industry.

My great grandparents were Sarah- maiden name unknown- and Israel
Gluckstein.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I am registered with JGFF.

Sid Greenberg
sid.greenberg@...
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAM, NAMOVITZ;
GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN.


Norman GREENFELD - Jewish cemetery, Albany NY #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

I am looking for Norman Greenfeld, who used to be the Jewish
Cemetery conservation person for Albany, NY.

We were in touch a couple years ago about a relative of mine
buried in Albany.

When I emailed him yesterday at an email I had >from 2 years
ago, it bounced back.

If anyone knows him, or how he is, and could ask him to please
get in touch with me, I would appreciate the help.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for family of Bryna GLUCKSTEIN from Kiev #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

My grandfather Jacob and his brother Morris Gluckstein had a
sister Bryna.

After they came to Canada >from Kiev, about 1895-1900, she married
and moved to California. I don't know her married name, but my
cousin here told me that she had a son in the movie industry.

My great grandparents were Sarah- maiden name unknown- and Israel
Gluckstein.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I am registered with JGFF.

Sid Greenberg
sid.greenberg@...
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAM, NAMOVITZ;
GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Norman GREENFELD - Jewish cemetery, Albany NY #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

I am looking for Norman Greenfeld, who used to be the Jewish
Cemetery conservation person for Albany, NY.

We were in touch a couple years ago about a relative of mine
buried in Albany.

When I emailed him yesterday at an email I had >from 2 years
ago, it bounced back.

If anyone knows him, or how he is, and could ask him to please
get in touch with me, I would appreciate the help.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@...


Re: Milton Hirsh, Hirsch or Hirshhorn in DC Area #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

If Milton Hirsh was a member of the bar it should not be that
difficult to find him. Check with the Virginia, Maryland and
DC bar associations. They have lists of all members. Some of
the bar associations let you search the lists of their current
members online.

Dana Feldman
searching for: GROPEN/GROPHEN/GROJPEN/GROEPEN - Dubno-Volhynia-
Poland/Ukraine/Russia; RUDE/RUDY-Dubno-Volhynia-Poland/Ukraine/
Russia; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania; SHENDEROVICH/SENDEROVICH-
Minsk Gubernia

I'm trying to locate Milton Hirsh (may have variant spellings
such as Hirsch, Hirschhorn, Hirshhorn) or members of his family.
Believe he is or was an attorney in the Washington, DC area. He
is distant cousin. His ancestors came >from Latvia possibly via
U.K. and/or Canada.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Milton Hirsh, Hirsch or Hirshhorn in DC Area #general

martin solomon <bassdoc@...>
 

If Milton Hirsh was a member of the bar it should not be that
difficult to find him. Check with the Virginia, Maryland and
DC bar associations. They have lists of all members. Some of
the bar associations let you search the lists of their current
members online.

Dana Feldman
searching for: GROPEN/GROPHEN/GROJPEN/GROEPEN - Dubno-Volhynia-
Poland/Ukraine/Russia; RUDE/RUDY-Dubno-Volhynia-Poland/Ukraine/
Russia; LUSTBERG - Austria/Romania; SHENDEROVICH/SENDEROVICH-
Minsk Gubernia

I'm trying to locate Milton Hirsh (may have variant spellings
such as Hirsch, Hirschhorn, Hirshhorn) or members of his family.
Believe he is or was an attorney in the Washington, DC area. He
is distant cousin. His ancestors came >from Latvia possibly via
U.K. and/or Canada.


Re: yizkor digest: August 22, 2002 #yizkorbooks

Laia Ben-Dov <lbendov@...>
 

The 16th of Tishre is the 2nd day of Sukkot, but NOT the 27th of Sept., but
the 22nd. Which date is the anniversary memorial date? >from whence is this fact drawn?
Thanks for the correction.
Avigdor Ben-Dov (Rutkiwicz)
Bialystok to Kedumim (Israel)

----- Original Message -----


On September 27 2002 or 16 thisri 5763 ( 2the day of souccot ) at 08.00
(departure of train convoy) it will be 60 years ago that the Jewish
population of " KOZIENICE " (my home town) was deported to
Treblinka................
REMEMBER THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazare Berneman
Antwerp, Belgium



Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: yizkor digest: August 22, 2002 #yizkorbooks

Laia Ben-Dov <lbendov@...>
 

The 16th of Tishre is the 2nd day of Sukkot, but NOT the 27th of Sept., but
the 22nd. Which date is the anniversary memorial date? >from whence is this fact drawn?
Thanks for the correction.
Avigdor Ben-Dov (Rutkiwicz)
Bialystok to Kedumim (Israel)

----- Original Message -----


On September 27 2002 or 16 thisri 5763 ( 2the day of souccot ) at 08.00
(departure of train convoy) it will be 60 years ago that the Jewish
population of " KOZIENICE " (my home town) was deported to
Treblinka................
REMEMBER THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazare Berneman
Antwerp, Belgium



Re: Remember them #yizkorbooks

Gretchen Kugel <g_kugel@...>
 

Thank you for living to tell us so that we all might remember.

(Gretchen Kugel)

On September 27 2002 or 16 thisri 5763 ( 2the day of souccot ) at 08.00
(departure of train convoy) it will be 60 years ago that the Jewish
population of " KOZIENICE " (my home town) was deported to Treblinka................
REMEMBER THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazare Berneman
Antwerp, Belgium

MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to sign all posts with your full name and
location.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Remember them #yizkorbooks

Gretchen Kugel <g_kugel@...>
 

Thank you for living to tell us so that we all might remember.

(Gretchen Kugel)

On September 27 2002 or 16 thisri 5763 ( 2the day of souccot ) at 08.00
(departure of train convoy) it will be 60 years ago that the Jewish
population of " KOZIENICE " (my home town) was deported to Treblinka................
REMEMBER THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazare Berneman
Antwerp, Belgium

MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to sign all posts with your full name and
location.


change of address #yizkorbooks

Avi Alon <avialon@...>
 

to all our family and friends:

As of the 25-08-2002
our email address will be:

avialon@...

we will glad to recieve mail >from you and continue our correspondence
all the best!!
Avi and Shirley Alon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please be sure to change your email listing with the JGFF,
if you are listed there (and I hope you are!), and with any of your
JewishGen subscriptions as well. Unfortunately JewishGen has no secretarial
staff to do this for you.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks change of address #yizkorbooks

Avi Alon <avialon@...>
 

to all our family and friends:

As of the 25-08-2002
our email address will be:

avialon@...

we will glad to recieve mail >from you and continue our correspondence
all the best!!
Avi and Shirley Alon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please be sure to change your email listing with the JGFF,
if you are listed there (and I hope you are!), and with any of your
JewishGen subscriptions as well. Unfortunately JewishGen has no secretarial
staff to do this for you.


Re: Harlem Preparatory School #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of Aug. 22/02 Barry Sieger (BarryEdwin@...)
asked for information about the Harlem Preparatory School in New
York City about 1922.

I remember writing a couple of times last February to Jim Belson
who had asked Jewishgen's Ukraine SIG about the "Harlem Evening
High School for Men". Mr. Belson's father had graduated >from that
School in 1922.

I don't know whether that Evening School was the same as "The
Harlem Preparatory School." I do know that a school called Harlem
Preparatory School existed as late as 1976 and I think, maybe
mistakenly, it still does, specializing in training young black
musicians.

If Mr. Seiger is hoping to obtain his relative's school records from
the Harlem Preparatory School, he should know that when NYC schools
close or are moved to other locations, their former pupils' records
are sometimes moved to another school. But old records may be
discarded and destroyed because by law NYC public schools are
required to keep their pupils' records for "only" 65 years. I've
been told that that some schools don't bother with combing through
and discarding them; their adminstrations may just store them
somewhere in their building. (The Board of Education on Livingston
Street in Brooklyn does not keep student records. In fact, I have
learned that often Livingtston Street adminstrators cannot find
records of the very existence of some of New York City's older
schools!)

I do not yet have much information about the Jews of Harlem. I wish
I did if only because I know my father designed some buildings in the
Harlem area. I do have a book by Stephan F. Brumberg, "Going to America
Going to School: the Jewish Immigrant Public School Encounter in
Turn-of-the-Century New York City." But Brumberg, who teaches at
Brooklyn College, says nothing about Harlem or the education provided
its schools.

However, a book entitled "When Harlem was Jewish:1870-1930" by Jeffrey
S. Gurock, a professor at Yeshiva University, may contain information
about the Harlem Preparatory School and/or the Harlem Evening High
School for Men. Gurock's book is much too expensive for me to buy
and I haven't yet tried to find a copy at Indiana's Main Library.
Professor Gurock, whose family lived in a tenement at Park Avenue and
100th Street, was reported by the New York Times to have said that by
World War I about 175,000 Jews lived in Harlem.

Another book which may help Mr. Sieger but with which I am also not
familar is Jervis Anderson's "This was Harlem." It is a social history
of the years between 1900-1950.

Still another but less likely possibility is a book entitled "Harlem
Lost and Found," by Michael Henry Adams, due to be published this fall.
Mr. Adams who lives in Harlem is an ardent preservationist. I imagine
his book is largely if not exclusively about black culture and "the
Harlem Renaissance." I don't know how much text the book will have,
but it will display many newly made photographs of Harlem's buildings.
Perhaps some of the illustrations will show Harlem's old schools. (I
learned of this book while researching some of the buildings my father,
Hyman I. Feldman, designed. One was a three-story building which was
erected in the 1920s and in which the famous jazz nightclub called
"Small's Paradise" was located. The nightclub itself was snazzily
designed by Jewel Vertner Woodson Tandy, New York's first registered
black architect.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: Passenger Lists Baltimore / SSDI #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I have had great experiences with passenger lists >from the LDS
church. Most of the time they arrive promptly in a couple weeks,
and it is just a matter of searching for your people. The biggest
problem is in the non-indexed years-especially the big years for
New York where you might (I did) search many rolls of microfilm for
some year a person was supposed to arrive.

In fact, anyone who is a genealogist and is anywhere near a FHL
should go there and check it out. Depending on where your family
is from, you might find lots of information-although you do have to
do the researh and read the films. I was so impressed that I worked
as a librarian for many years in a FHL.

In answer to your other question, naturalization has nothing to do
with Social Security-you just have to work at a covered job to
contibute and receive benefits when you retire. Naturalization
before 1906 was done by local courts, and you would have to search
for the records where he lived. After 1906, the Immigration and
Naturalization Service was in charge.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Harlem Preparatory School #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of Aug. 22/02 Barry Sieger (BarryEdwin@...)
asked for information about the Harlem Preparatory School in New
York City about 1922.

I remember writing a couple of times last February to Jim Belson
who had asked Jewishgen's Ukraine SIG about the "Harlem Evening
High School for Men". Mr. Belson's father had graduated >from that
School in 1922.

I don't know whether that Evening School was the same as "The
Harlem Preparatory School." I do know that a school called Harlem
Preparatory School existed as late as 1976 and I think, maybe
mistakenly, it still does, specializing in training young black
musicians.

If Mr. Seiger is hoping to obtain his relative's school records from
the Harlem Preparatory School, he should know that when NYC schools
close or are moved to other locations, their former pupils' records
are sometimes moved to another school. But old records may be
discarded and destroyed because by law NYC public schools are
required to keep their pupils' records for "only" 65 years. I've
been told that that some schools don't bother with combing through
and discarding them; their adminstrations may just store them
somewhere in their building. (The Board of Education on Livingston
Street in Brooklyn does not keep student records. In fact, I have
learned that often Livingtston Street adminstrators cannot find
records of the very existence of some of New York City's older
schools!)

I do not yet have much information about the Jews of Harlem. I wish
I did if only because I know my father designed some buildings in the
Harlem area. I do have a book by Stephan F. Brumberg, "Going to America
Going to School: the Jewish Immigrant Public School Encounter in
Turn-of-the-Century New York City." But Brumberg, who teaches at
Brooklyn College, says nothing about Harlem or the education provided
its schools.

However, a book entitled "When Harlem was Jewish:1870-1930" by Jeffrey
S. Gurock, a professor at Yeshiva University, may contain information
about the Harlem Preparatory School and/or the Harlem Evening High
School for Men. Gurock's book is much too expensive for me to buy
and I haven't yet tried to find a copy at Indiana's Main Library.
Professor Gurock, whose family lived in a tenement at Park Avenue and
100th Street, was reported by the New York Times to have said that by
World War I about 175,000 Jews lived in Harlem.

Another book which may help Mr. Sieger but with which I am also not
familar is Jervis Anderson's "This was Harlem." It is a social history
of the years between 1900-1950.

Still another but less likely possibility is a book entitled "Harlem
Lost and Found," by Michael Henry Adams, due to be published this fall.
Mr. Adams who lives in Harlem is an ardent preservationist. I imagine
his book is largely if not exclusively about black culture and "the
Harlem Renaissance." I don't know how much text the book will have,
but it will display many newly made photographs of Harlem's buildings.
Perhaps some of the illustrations will show Harlem's old schools. (I
learned of this book while researching some of the buildings my father,
Hyman I. Feldman, designed. One was a three-story building which was
erected in the 1920s and in which the famous jazz nightclub called
"Small's Paradise" was located. The nightclub itself was snazzily
designed by Jewel Vertner Woodson Tandy, New York's first registered
black architect.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger Lists Baltimore / SSDI #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

I have had great experiences with passenger lists >from the LDS
church. Most of the time they arrive promptly in a couple weeks,
and it is just a matter of searching for your people. The biggest
problem is in the non-indexed years-especially the big years for
New York where you might (I did) search many rolls of microfilm for
some year a person was supposed to arrive.

In fact, anyone who is a genealogist and is anywhere near a FHL
should go there and check it out. Depending on where your family
is from, you might find lots of information-although you do have to
do the researh and read the films. I was so impressed that I worked
as a librarian for many years in a FHL.

In answer to your other question, naturalization has nothing to do
with Social Security-you just have to work at a covered job to
contibute and receive benefits when you retire. Naturalization
before 1906 was done by local courts, and you would have to search
for the records where he lived. After 1906, the Immigration and
Naturalization Service was in charge.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Re: Large eastern europe Map #general

Gor Lendr <allwithpeace@...>
 

Try on-line map of Lithuania http://www.maps.lt

Using advice >from multiple replies to my query about a wall-
sized Eastern European map, I ordered a 3 by 4 ft wall-sized map
of Europe >from an online vendor .... Then, as suggested by several
people, I will take it to a copy shop and enlarge the section I
need the most ( Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland).


Manchester UK Marriage #general

David Kravitz
 

Connie Fisher Newhan wrote:

<< I have the Marriage Certificate for my ggrandparents Isaac
Goldberg, son of Samuel Goldberg, of Russia to Celia Feldman,
daughter of Moses Feldman, of Kovno? Lithuania?Russia?. They
were married 12 April 1886. The certificate says the marriage
was solemnized at the Registers Office in the District of Prestwich,
in the County of Lancaster, and that they were "married in the
Register Office by Certificate before me," and then it's signed by
the Registrar. It also says their address was Cheetham. >>

My own grandparents lived in Waterloo Road, Cheetham and their
marriage was registered in Prestwich, the local registration area.
The problem with Cheetham is the large number of synagogues a
hundred years ago, five in one quarter mile stretch of Cheetham
Hill Road. Most, if not all, have closed as the Jewish population
migrated outwards and northwards to Broughton Park, Prestwich,
Whitefield and beyond. It may be that your grandparents were
really married in a Registry Office, possibly for tax or immigration
purposes before later marrying in shul. This was not uncommon, my
own brother-in-law did exactly that.

But knowing the actual date of the marriage and the approximate
area of Manchester or Salford, you could contact Charles Tucker at
the London Beth Din and ask him to search for a copy of the ketuba.
Although he does make a charge, it is likely to be minimal as he
charges by the hour. Find the LBD, via Google, on the Net.

David Kravitz
Bournemouth
England


Re: Manchester UK Marriage #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Dear Connie:

Individuals wanting marry in England, had to be married in a
registry office prior to a religious ceremony. The requirements
for the type of information necessary on the registry office
certificate varied over the years. In some cases, for instance,
the column which requested the parent's name was not filled in
if the person were deceased and the address may have merely been
the district and not the street address.

As an example, my parents were married on March 5th in the registry
office with family witnesses and then in the synagogue on March
28th for the full religious ceremony. Due to their having to have
a dispensation to marry due to a holiday, there was further paperwork
that had to be done with the office of the Chief Rabbi in London
(Beth Din) regarding this matter.

In some cases, the couple may have chosen not to marry in a religious
ceremony and only had the civil registration. However, I assume that
your ggparents, as most Jews were at that time, were Orthodox and
therefore would have followed the civil ceremony with the religious
one. At the time of the their religious ceremony, they would have
gotten a "ketubah" written in Hebrew which provided their names in
Hebrew and their parents names.

The area where they were married in the civil ceremony and where it
states they lived had numerous synagogues available to choose from.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Jews in New Haven Vol 1-4 #general

Iffersas7@...
 

Hi,

I hope this subject line attracts people who have ancestors in
New Haven, CT.

I have been reading these books that were put together by the
Jewish Historical Society of Greater New Haven. There are more
than 4 volumes. I think there are 7 or 8 by now.

These books are full of wonderful facts and stories that otherwise
would be difficult to find.

I saw many last names I recognized >from the forum letters.

If anyone is intrested in these books they can be found at the
Jewish Center of Greater New Haven on Amity Road in Woodbridge, the
New Haven Public Library Main Branch on Elm Street in New Haven, or
the Jewish Historical Society located in Southern CT State University
in New Haven.

The books at the Jewish center can be taken out and you don't have
to be a member to use their library. The books at the New Haven
Library are only for reference. I'm am not sure how the Jewish
Historical Society works.

Here are some topics these books cover:

The Jews of New Haven before 1880

The first Jews that attended Yale University

Memories of Legion Avenue: Names, Locations, and owners od stores
located on this street starting the early 1900's to the end of that
area being Jewish.

Immigration stories >from 1880-1930.

I hope this informations helps someone,

Jennifer Saslafsky
iffersas7@...
Hamden, CT USA

SASLAFSKY, ZASLAVSKY, KOMISAR, KOMISSAR, MARETSKY, MARATSKY,
BAROFSKY, BAROVSKY, MYERS, MERRITT, BERNSTEIN, MATIKA