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Re: the Three Malka's married to KRONMANS #general

Martin Kronman <mkronman@...>
 

I have received a number of answers to my query about three
records of a Malka FINKEL'STEIN who apparently were married to
three individual KRONMAN husbands and I want to thank all of
you for your opinions and information. I am still left with the
conclusion that there was only one Malka FINKEL'SZTEIN who was
born about 1850 and for whatever reason was married to at least
two different KRONMAN's and perhaps three of them. None of the
available records are indicative of a divorce or of death which
might warrent remarriage. The KRONMAN family is a relatively
small one and two or perhaps three of the KRONMAN's that she
married appear to have come >from Zdunska Wola, Poland. I would
conclude, therefore, that her husbands were likely related to
each other.

There are, some unanswered questions, however, which may be of
more general interest. The first of these relates to whether the
name Simeon is *associated* in some way with the name Zelman. I
must confess no personal knowledge about how common such an
association might be. In searching the *Given Name Database"
compiled by Professor I found no evidence of the equivalence of
these names or their always being always paired with each other,
for example *Zelman Simeon*. One of the respondants stated *Zelman
is the Yiddish equivalent of Solomon and is often angliczed as
Simeon*. Another respondant stated *the names Simeon and Zalman
are interchangable*. I would greatly appreciate a definative answer
as to whether this has been the experience of most of you.

The second question relates to remarriage of a man or a woman on
the death of a spouse. One respondant stated *the tradition is that
should a man's wife die and her sister was single the he should
marry her. He stated that the reverse might be true, that is, if
a womans husband dies and his brother was single she would marry
him. It seems to me that the latter would be very significant
since it serves to preserve the continiuity of the husbands surname,
together with providing the wife with material support as well as
a conjugal one. My question is how common was it for a widow to
marry the brother of the deceased husband.

It is apparent that, aside >from addressing what might been true,
what is needed is information specific to the indivuals who are
involved. I am hoping that my continuied research on the KRONMAN's
who had lived in Lodz Province will establish relationships with
greater certainty.

Martin J. Kronman
Syracuse, NY
Researching: KRONMAN in Kolo, Konin,
Tuliskow, Warta, Slupca, Kalisz, Zdunska Wola
and Lodz, Poland; Ukraine; Hungary; United States


Anshe Emeth Cemetery in Pine Bluff, Arkansas #general

Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
 

I am looking for information regarding Fies burials in Anshe
Emeth Cemetery in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Contact information on
the IAJGS Cemetery Project page appears to be out of date. I
have tried calling the synagogue directly, but received no
answer. Does anyone know if the Cindy Scott of Niceville, Florida
listed as having transcription information for this cemetery has
a new address or phone number? Or is there information available
from another source, perhaps in Pine Bluff?
Thank you in advance for your help.

Teri Tillman
Natchez, Mississippi

MODERATOR NOTE: Contact information for Cindy Scott should be
sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: the Three Malka's married to KRONMANS #general

Martin Kronman <mkronman@...>
 

I have received a number of answers to my query about three
records of a Malka FINKEL'STEIN who apparently were married to
three individual KRONMAN husbands and I want to thank all of
you for your opinions and information. I am still left with the
conclusion that there was only one Malka FINKEL'SZTEIN who was
born about 1850 and for whatever reason was married to at least
two different KRONMAN's and perhaps three of them. None of the
available records are indicative of a divorce or of death which
might warrent remarriage. The KRONMAN family is a relatively
small one and two or perhaps three of the KRONMAN's that she
married appear to have come >from Zdunska Wola, Poland. I would
conclude, therefore, that her husbands were likely related to
each other.

There are, some unanswered questions, however, which may be of
more general interest. The first of these relates to whether the
name Simeon is *associated* in some way with the name Zelman. I
must confess no personal knowledge about how common such an
association might be. In searching the *Given Name Database"
compiled by Professor I found no evidence of the equivalence of
these names or their always being always paired with each other,
for example *Zelman Simeon*. One of the respondants stated *Zelman
is the Yiddish equivalent of Solomon and is often angliczed as
Simeon*. Another respondant stated *the names Simeon and Zalman
are interchangable*. I would greatly appreciate a definative answer
as to whether this has been the experience of most of you.

The second question relates to remarriage of a man or a woman on
the death of a spouse. One respondant stated *the tradition is that
should a man's wife die and her sister was single the he should
marry her. He stated that the reverse might be true, that is, if
a womans husband dies and his brother was single she would marry
him. It seems to me that the latter would be very significant
since it serves to preserve the continiuity of the husbands surname,
together with providing the wife with material support as well as
a conjugal one. My question is how common was it for a widow to
marry the brother of the deceased husband.

It is apparent that, aside >from addressing what might been true,
what is needed is information specific to the indivuals who are
involved. I am hoping that my continuied research on the KRONMAN's
who had lived in Lodz Province will establish relationships with
greater certainty.

Martin J. Kronman
Syracuse, NY
Researching: KRONMAN in Kolo, Konin,
Tuliskow, Warta, Slupca, Kalisz, Zdunska Wola
and Lodz, Poland; Ukraine; Hungary; United States


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anshe Emeth Cemetery in Pine Bluff, Arkansas #general

Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
 

I am looking for information regarding Fies burials in Anshe
Emeth Cemetery in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Contact information on
the IAJGS Cemetery Project page appears to be out of date. I
have tried calling the synagogue directly, but received no
answer. Does anyone know if the Cindy Scott of Niceville, Florida
listed as having transcription information for this cemetery has
a new address or phone number? Or is there information available
from another source, perhaps in Pine Bluff?
Thank you in advance for your help.

Teri Tillman
Natchez, Mississippi

MODERATOR NOTE: Contact information for Cindy Scott should be
sent privately.


Help locating town Essweiler #germany

Adele Adatto <aadatto@...>
 

I am trying to locate where my great-grandmother was born. I was told
possibly in Essweiler which is near Oberweiler im Tal. I have a German
map, but can not find these towns on the map. Also the nearest large
city is to the southeast called Kaiserslautern. I can not find it
either. I would appreciate any information on these places.

Adele ADATTO New Orleans, LA USA <adatto@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: Kaiserslautern should not be hard to find on any
map, new or old. Please use the map function at the JewishGen Shtetl
Finder which will produce a map for you.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

You can also use the Town Locator Service (via e-mail) which has been
described in detail many times here. For details see the GerSig Archives.

http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop


German SIG #Germany Help locating town Essweiler #germany

Adele Adatto <aadatto@...>
 

I am trying to locate where my great-grandmother was born. I was told
possibly in Essweiler which is near Oberweiler im Tal. I have a German
map, but can not find these towns on the map. Also the nearest large
city is to the southeast called Kaiserslautern. I can not find it
either. I would appreciate any information on these places.

Adele ADATTO New Orleans, LA USA <adatto@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: Kaiserslautern should not be hard to find on any
map, new or old. Please use the map function at the JewishGen Shtetl
Finder which will produce a map for you.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

You can also use the Town Locator Service (via e-mail) which has been
described in detail many times here. For details see the GerSig Archives.

http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop


Re: belarus digest: August 22, 2002 #belarus

Arthur Sugerman
 

Maharshal is an acronym >from the first letters in Hebrew
of Moreinu Harav Shlomo Luria -- Our teacher Rabbi
Solomon Luria. There were many Rabbis known by such acronyms and naturally
many started MAH for
Moreinu HaRav -- e.g. Maharal of Prague, Maharam Rothenburg, Maharil
Diskin, Maharsha, Maharshal, Maharsham.
But others might be known by the initials of their famous
work -- the great Rabbi Yeshaya Horowitz(buried beside Rambam [another
acronym] in Tiberias)
was called Sheloh after Shenei Luchot Haberit -- the
Two Tablets of the Law).
Best wishes,
Arthur Sugerman
Lawrenceville,NJ.


Looking for an address in the Bronx 1930 #general

MikenHelene <carsonmh@...>
 

Can anyone help me find an address for Joseph Schwartz,
furriour, lived in Grand Concourse, in the Bronx for the
year 1930?

Wife would be Jennie or Jennifer. Our library cannot get a
1930 City Directory for NY for several months and I have no
other way to get it.

Thank you in advance
Helene Rose-Carson
Crossville, TN
carsonmh@...

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Seeking Katz & Harris in New Jersey #general

Hershon <hershon@...>
 

I am looking for the following ladies who are cousins of us
here. The trouble is although we know of them, they almost
certainly dont know of us. We estimate they are in their late
50's, early 60's, and have 5 childen that we know of between
them. They are Nancy Katz, Barbara Harris and Dr. Elizabeth
Harris, all daughters of Sydney E Harris. They were born and
brought up around West & South Orange, New Jersey, and went
to Temple B'Nai Jeshurun in Short Hills. We have e mailed the
Synagogue as their father was a life long member, only dying
in 1988, but have not had any reply as they probably think we
are e mail spammers or something! We are based near Liverpool
in England, so its not so easy to track them down. Any offers
of help would be very appreciated. This is the last step in
this particular branch of the family and it would be so
wonderful to contact them as we have all the family history
going back to 1800 now. It would be great to share it. many
thanks for your time
Lorraine Hershon

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Julius BLOCK?BLOAK St. Louis, MO 1923 #general

desrx <desrx@...>
 

I have received a very poor copy of the nautralization certificate
for Tillie (Wyman) Lentzner, 23 Septmber 1923, St. Louis, MO. She
was the wife of Herman Lentzner. Signing the attached petition was
her brother-in-law David Lentzner and a Julius Block/Bloak. David
Lentzner's wife was also named Tillie and I have just received an
obit giving David's Tillie's maiden name as Block. So perhaps Julius
was a relative. Also have another Lenczner/Lentzner, Adolph born
about 1872, also in St. Louis. According to the 1920 Census he was
living with wife Mary (abt 1875), and three children Shirley (sp -
male), Beatrice and Sarah. This Adolph maybe the same who accompanied
his niece Bruche Lentzner to the US in 1911. Believe this "Bertha/
Birdie" is actually a Lieberman who married Louis Blumenfeld of St.
Louis. Apparently Tillie (Wyman) Lentzner is somehow related to the
late Eugene Wyman of Los Angeles, CA.

If you have a connection to Julius or the others, please contact me.

H. Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
desrx@...
mcteer@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: belarus digest: August 22, 2002 #belarus

Arthur Sugerman
 

Maharshal is an acronym >from the first letters in Hebrew
of Moreinu Harav Shlomo Luria -- Our teacher Rabbi
Solomon Luria. There were many Rabbis known by such acronyms and naturally
many started MAH for
Moreinu HaRav -- e.g. Maharal of Prague, Maharam Rothenburg, Maharil
Diskin, Maharsha, Maharshal, Maharsham.
But others might be known by the initials of their famous
work -- the great Rabbi Yeshaya Horowitz(buried beside Rambam [another
acronym] in Tiberias)
was called Sheloh after Shenei Luchot Haberit -- the
Two Tablets of the Law).
Best wishes,
Arthur Sugerman
Lawrenceville,NJ.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for an address in the Bronx 1930 #general

MikenHelene <carsonmh@...>
 

Can anyone help me find an address for Joseph Schwartz,
furriour, lived in Grand Concourse, in the Bronx for the
year 1930?

Wife would be Jennie or Jennifer. Our library cannot get a
1930 City Directory for NY for several months and I have no
other way to get it.

Thank you in advance
Helene Rose-Carson
Crossville, TN
carsonmh@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Katz & Harris in New Jersey #general

Hershon <hershon@...>
 

I am looking for the following ladies who are cousins of us
here. The trouble is although we know of them, they almost
certainly dont know of us. We estimate they are in their late
50's, early 60's, and have 5 childen that we know of between
them. They are Nancy Katz, Barbara Harris and Dr. Elizabeth
Harris, all daughters of Sydney E Harris. They were born and
brought up around West & South Orange, New Jersey, and went
to Temple B'Nai Jeshurun in Short Hills. We have e mailed the
Synagogue as their father was a life long member, only dying
in 1988, but have not had any reply as they probably think we
are e mail spammers or something! We are based near Liverpool
in England, so its not so easy to track them down. Any offers
of help would be very appreciated. This is the last step in
this particular branch of the family and it would be so
wonderful to contact them as we have all the family history
going back to 1800 now. It would be great to share it. many
thanks for your time
Lorraine Hershon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Julius BLOCK?BLOAK St. Louis, MO 1923 #general

desrx <desrx@...>
 

I have received a very poor copy of the nautralization certificate
for Tillie (Wyman) Lentzner, 23 Septmber 1923, St. Louis, MO. She
was the wife of Herman Lentzner. Signing the attached petition was
her brother-in-law David Lentzner and a Julius Block/Bloak. David
Lentzner's wife was also named Tillie and I have just received an
obit giving David's Tillie's maiden name as Block. So perhaps Julius
was a relative. Also have another Lenczner/Lentzner, Adolph born
about 1872, also in St. Louis. According to the 1920 Census he was
living with wife Mary (abt 1875), and three children Shirley (sp -
male), Beatrice and Sarah. This Adolph maybe the same who accompanied
his niece Bruche Lentzner to the US in 1911. Believe this "Bertha/
Birdie" is actually a Lieberman who married Louis Blumenfeld of St.
Louis. Apparently Tillie (Wyman) Lentzner is somehow related to the
late Eugene Wyman of Los Angeles, CA.

If you have a connection to Julius or the others, please contact me.

H. Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
desrx@...
mcteer@...


Conference Tapes #belarus

Linda S. <lindashu@...>
 

I attended the conference in Toronto which was outstanding. Every session
was taped and attendees could order the tapes for a minimal charge. Whether
those tapes are available for purchase now, I don't know. Perhaps someone
from the Toronto conference committee could respond.
Linda Workman Schulein
California

see previous message-moderator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Conference Tapes #belarus

Linda S. <lindashu@...>
 

I attended the conference in Toronto which was outstanding. Every session
was taped and attendees could order the tapes for a minimal charge. Whether
those tapes are available for purchase now, I don't know. Perhaps someone
from the Toronto conference committee could respond.
Linda Workman Schulein
California

see previous message-moderator


audio tapes from conference available #belarus

Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
 

I am a member of the Toronto JGS and attended the conference here in Toronto. I

had the good fortune to already order and listen to tapes of the sessions I had
to miss because there were several occurring simultaneously.

In response to a request for tapes by Belarus SIG members, I checked into their
availability. If you go to the Toronto JGS website www.jgstoronto.ca
information about acquiring the tapes is available. There you will find a
contact email and phone number. You will be sent an order form on which each
session is listed by title and author.

The SIG meetings are not included on the order form so I assume they were not
recorded.

Penny Gross
Toronto, Canada

Researching: RUBINOFF, RABINOWITZ, LEVIN in Rechitsa, Koz'ye, Levashi


Crash course need to read Search database -RTR #belarus

Valerie Fox
 

I need a crash course in understanding where the records are for the town of
Baranovichi.

I have the 9 record groups, but under, "repository City" it lists Brest.

When I look at the archives for Brest, it says chronological year is from
1919.

I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.
Where do I look?

I understand the archives is being closed for Novogrudok and I am
considering hiring a researcher. I presume it is Oleg. Am I correct?

I understood the handout at the Toronto seminar, but the one on the web
appears to be different.

Thanks for any help.

Valerie Miller Fox
vfox@...
Searching GALLAY >from Baranovichi, Belarus,
FUKS >from Ratno, Ukraine
WINIKIER >from Maciejow, now Lukov, Ukraine
DAVIDOVSKY >from Turets and Novya Mysh


Belarus SIG #Belarus audio tapes from conference available #belarus

Penny Gross <p.gross@...>
 

I am a member of the Toronto JGS and attended the conference here in Toronto. I

had the good fortune to already order and listen to tapes of the sessions I had
to miss because there were several occurring simultaneously.

In response to a request for tapes by Belarus SIG members, I checked into their
availability. If you go to the Toronto JGS website www.jgstoronto.ca
information about acquiring the tapes is available. There you will find a
contact email and phone number. You will be sent an order form on which each
session is listed by title and author.

The SIG meetings are not included on the order form so I assume they were not
recorded.

Penny Gross
Toronto, Canada

Researching: RUBINOFF, RABINOWITZ, LEVIN in Rechitsa, Koz'ye, Levashi


Belarus SIG #Belarus Crash course need to read Search database -RTR #belarus

Valerie Fox
 

I need a crash course in understanding where the records are for the town of
Baranovichi.

I have the 9 record groups, but under, "repository City" it lists Brest.

When I look at the archives for Brest, it says chronological year is from
1919.

I am interested in archival material pre- 1900's.
Where do I look?

I understand the archives is being closed for Novogrudok and I am
considering hiring a researcher. I presume it is Oleg. Am I correct?

I understood the handout at the Toronto seminar, but the one on the web
appears to be different.

Thanks for any help.

Valerie Miller Fox
vfox@...
Searching GALLAY >from Baranovichi, Belarus,
FUKS >from Ratno, Ukraine
WINIKIER >from Maciejow, now Lukov, Ukraine
DAVIDOVSKY >from Turets and Novya Mysh