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Re: Stawiski Landowner Magnate #poland

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear All:

Form the responses I have received, there were two landowners: The first was
Count Fortunat Zamoyski- >from the "olden" times as Alex Sharon and Stan
Goodman both found on Google. Alex also translated into English the history
of Stawiski that was found on the Google search where it talks of Count
Zamoyski.

Ryzard Plutecki called the local Stawiski mayor and town priest and spoke to
them on my behalf, and has acted as go between for the priest and myself
translating English and Polish where necessary!. The more "recent" town
owner was named Kisielnicki. If anything comes of this contact regarding
any records that might be of interest I will let you know.

While I have thanked Alex, Stan and Ryzard privately, let me take the time
now to thank them publicly. The help one receives >from this forum is truly
phenomenal - all go the extra mile.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA

SEARCHING:
KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Poland
FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK, SZPIRA, SOBOTKA, PIATKOWSKA, --
Lomza-Stawiski,POLAND
GUTFARB -- Zambrow, POLAND
REICH, WALD, ZSUPNIK-- Eperjes, HUNGARY/Presov,SLOVAKIA; Szivdnik; Sebes
Kellemes, HUNGARY(Sarisske Luky, SLOVAKIA) Salgo, HUNGARY
MEISELS, SEGAL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, UKRAINE


Kielce: JANKIELEWSKI family Holocaust survivor in Radzilow #poland

Jose Gutstein
 

Rachel Finkielsztejn survived the Holocaust in Radzilow. She married her
Catholic rescuer Stanislaw Ramotowski, and thereafter changed her name to
Marianna Ramotowska. She is 92 years old and living in an old age home in
Warsaw. Stanislaw passed away just a few months ago.

http://www.radzilow.com/rachel.htm

I've already located Rachel's cousins on her father's side (Finkielsztejn),
a tree that is documented in Radzilow going back to at least the mid-1700's.
Now I'd like to see if anyone on her mother's side can be found. The
interesting thing is that it has now come to my attention that
Rachel/Marianna's mother was not >from anywhere near Radzilow, but was from
Kielce, over 190 miles away. Her full maiden name was Sora JANKIELEWSKI.
I also have details on Sora's father.

As the story has now been developed: Sora Jankielewski's family lived in
Kielce. It was a wealthy and well-educated family. One of her brothers was
an engineer, another a doctor, and a third, not known. But they didn't have
enough money or luck to find a good husband for Sora in Kielce, so they
found the owner of a mill in Radzilow (Yitzhak Finkielsztejn), quite a
distance away in those days. Rachel was born in Radzilow in 1910. She
finished primary school there, but her mother wanted a better life for her
in the big city and so she sent her to the family of her brother back in
Kielce, where she finished gymnasium. Rachel came back often to Radzilow
for vacations, but when the war broke out in 1939 she came back to Radzilow
for good and found herself there on July 7, 1941, the day almost all of the
town's residents, including her parents and siblings, were herded into a
barn and set afire. Rachel survived, thanks to Stanislaw Ramotowski.

I have received a couple dozen photos of Marianna, some pre-war, taken in
Kielce and Radzilow. Two of the photos >from Kielce are quite a find, for
they show her in front of the Chevrolet agency where she worked.

I've contacted the Kielce landsmanshaftn in Israel about any Jankielewski
family, but so far no response.

While Sora's immediate family probably perished, I have to believe there's a
good chance some Jankielewski cousins emigrated >from Kielce before the
Holocaust. Given the distance between Radzilow and Kielce, it's easy to
understand that any Jankielewski cousins abroad would have no knowledge of a
cousin who survived in Radzilow.

If anyone knows on a Jankielewski family living anywhere, that was
originally >from Kielce or anywhere nearby, please let me know.

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
E-Mail: Gutstein@...
Radzilow web page: http://www.radzilow.com


Stanley Diamond in Washington (DC) Jewish Week #poland

Eugene L Sadick <elsadick@...>
 

Stanley Diamond and the Jri project was the subect of a small article in
the the Washington (DC) Jewish Week newspaper on July 25, 2002. The
article was titled "Polish Jewry Tallied Online." It was written by Bill
Gladstone for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

Stanley, the Zedecks and Michael Tobias are a rare group, devoting
themselves unselfishly in the pursuit of family history for people they
didn't even know at the beginning. Those of us who have roots in Ostrova
(Ostrow Mazowiecka)are especially thankful.

Eugene Sadick
Silver Spring, MD.


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JRI Poland #Poland RE: Stawiski Landowner Magnate #poland

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear All:

Form the responses I have received, there were two landowners: The first was
Count Fortunat Zamoyski- >from the "olden" times as Alex Sharon and Stan
Goodman both found on Google. Alex also translated into English the history
of Stawiski that was found on the Google search where it talks of Count
Zamoyski.

Ryzard Plutecki called the local Stawiski mayor and town priest and spoke to
them on my behalf, and has acted as go between for the priest and myself
translating English and Polish where necessary!. The more "recent" town
owner was named Kisielnicki. If anything comes of this contact regarding
any records that might be of interest I will let you know.

While I have thanked Alex, Stan and Ryzard privately, let me take the time
now to thank them publicly. The help one receives >from this forum is truly
phenomenal - all go the extra mile.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA

SEARCHING:
KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Poland
FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK, SZPIRA, SOBOTKA, PIATKOWSKA, --
Lomza-Stawiski,POLAND
GUTFARB -- Zambrow, POLAND
REICH, WALD, ZSUPNIK-- Eperjes, HUNGARY/Presov,SLOVAKIA; Szivdnik; Sebes
Kellemes, HUNGARY(Sarisske Luky, SLOVAKIA) Salgo, HUNGARY
MEISELS, SEGAL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, UKRAINE


JRI Poland #Poland Kielce: JANKIELEWSKI family Holocaust survivor in Radzilow #poland

Jose Gutstein
 

Rachel Finkielsztejn survived the Holocaust in Radzilow. She married her
Catholic rescuer Stanislaw Ramotowski, and thereafter changed her name to
Marianna Ramotowska. She is 92 years old and living in an old age home in
Warsaw. Stanislaw passed away just a few months ago.

http://www.radzilow.com/rachel.htm

I've already located Rachel's cousins on her father's side (Finkielsztejn),
a tree that is documented in Radzilow going back to at least the mid-1700's.
Now I'd like to see if anyone on her mother's side can be found. The
interesting thing is that it has now come to my attention that
Rachel/Marianna's mother was not >from anywhere near Radzilow, but was from
Kielce, over 190 miles away. Her full maiden name was Sora JANKIELEWSKI.
I also have details on Sora's father.

As the story has now been developed: Sora Jankielewski's family lived in
Kielce. It was a wealthy and well-educated family. One of her brothers was
an engineer, another a doctor, and a third, not known. But they didn't have
enough money or luck to find a good husband for Sora in Kielce, so they
found the owner of a mill in Radzilow (Yitzhak Finkielsztejn), quite a
distance away in those days. Rachel was born in Radzilow in 1910. She
finished primary school there, but her mother wanted a better life for her
in the big city and so she sent her to the family of her brother back in
Kielce, where she finished gymnasium. Rachel came back often to Radzilow
for vacations, but when the war broke out in 1939 she came back to Radzilow
for good and found herself there on July 7, 1941, the day almost all of the
town's residents, including her parents and siblings, were herded into a
barn and set afire. Rachel survived, thanks to Stanislaw Ramotowski.

I have received a couple dozen photos of Marianna, some pre-war, taken in
Kielce and Radzilow. Two of the photos >from Kielce are quite a find, for
they show her in front of the Chevrolet agency where she worked.

I've contacted the Kielce landsmanshaftn in Israel about any Jankielewski
family, but so far no response.

While Sora's immediate family probably perished, I have to believe there's a
good chance some Jankielewski cousins emigrated >from Kielce before the
Holocaust. Given the distance between Radzilow and Kielce, it's easy to
understand that any Jankielewski cousins abroad would have no knowledge of a
cousin who survived in Radzilow.

If anyone knows on a Jankielewski family living anywhere, that was
originally >from Kielce or anywhere nearby, please let me know.

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
E-Mail: Gutstein@...
Radzilow web page: http://www.radzilow.com


JRI Poland #Poland Stanley Diamond in Washington (DC) Jewish Week #poland

Eugene L Sadick <elsadick@...>
 

Stanley Diamond and the Jri project was the subect of a small article in
the the Washington (DC) Jewish Week newspaper on July 25, 2002. The
article was titled "Polish Jewry Tallied Online." It was written by Bill
Gladstone for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

Stanley, the Zedecks and Michael Tobias are a rare group, devoting
themselves unselfishly in the pursuit of family history for people they
didn't even know at the beginning. Those of us who have roots in Ostrova
(Ostrow Mazowiecka)are especially thankful.

Eugene Sadick
Silver Spring, MD.


________________________________________________________________

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Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!

Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:

http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.


Seeking Lorraine Hershon of U.K. #latvia

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

She wrote me a while back and I have some new information for her. No
longer have her email. Believe she is a Latvia SIG member.

Thank you.

Donald Hirschhorn
Boca Raton, Florida


Latvia SIG #Latvia Seeking Lorraine Hershon of U.K. #latvia

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

She wrote me a while back and I have some new information for her. No
longer have her email. Believe she is a Latvia SIG member.

Thank you.

Donald Hirschhorn
Boca Raton, Florida


Records from British mandate period in Palestine #unitedkingdom

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I am wondering if anyone knows whether records exist in any archives in
England for the time that Palestine was 'governed' by the British?

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

--

Researching
BARNETT Vilna, Leeds, Rhodesia, Australia
BRZINSKI/ROSE Leeds, Australia
COHEN Manchester, Australia
REIZER, Grodno, Palestine, Israel, New Zealand, Australia, California
ROSE Leeds, Australia
VOLSHTEIN, Zelve (Grodno gubernia), Palestine, New Zealand, Australia


Hyamson collection #unitedkingdom

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

It was me, not Laurence Harris, who asked for an explanation regarding
the Hyamson collection. Laurence already knows because he used it!!

Like Michael Bernet I went to Google and typed in "Hyamson collection"
and also turned up 3 hits. However I then typed in "The Hyamson
collection" and it turned up the promised 130. I did eventually work
out what the Hyamson collection is (a collection of documents donated by
Albert (?) Hyamson in the mid 1900s to the Society of Genealogists).
It did take some tenacity to find the information.

Thank you too for a more recent posting by Laurence Harris explaining
fully about the Hyamson collection.

Thanks Michael for your comment - I heartily agree.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Records from British mandate period in Palestine #unitedkingdom

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I am wondering if anyone knows whether records exist in any archives in
England for the time that Palestine was 'governed' by the British?

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

--

Researching
BARNETT Vilna, Leeds, Rhodesia, Australia
BRZINSKI/ROSE Leeds, Australia
COHEN Manchester, Australia
REIZER, Grodno, Palestine, Israel, New Zealand, Australia, California
ROSE Leeds, Australia
VOLSHTEIN, Zelve (Grodno gubernia), Palestine, New Zealand, Australia


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Hyamson collection #unitedkingdom

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

It was me, not Laurence Harris, who asked for an explanation regarding
the Hyamson collection. Laurence already knows because he used it!!

Like Michael Bernet I went to Google and typed in "Hyamson collection"
and also turned up 3 hits. However I then typed in "The Hyamson
collection" and it turned up the promised 130. I did eventually work
out what the Hyamson collection is (a collection of documents donated by
Albert (?) Hyamson in the mid 1900s to the Society of Genealogists).
It did take some tenacity to find the information.

Thank you too for a more recent posting by Laurence Harris explaining
fully about the Hyamson collection.

Thanks Michael for your comment - I heartily agree.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


Records in Eshau, Germany?? #germany

Ellie Roden <eroden@...>
 

Dear Gersig,
I would be grateful if someone can tell me where the Jewish records for
Eshau, Germany might be kept and an address that I can write to.

Eshau is a small town just south of Ashaffenburg.

Ellie Roden Wilmington, Vermont USA <eroden@...>


German SIG #Germany Records in Eshau, Germany?? #germany

Ellie Roden <eroden@...>
 

Dear Gersig,
I would be grateful if someone can tell me where the Jewish records for
Eshau, Germany might be kept and an address that I can write to.

Eshau is a small town just south of Ashaffenburg.

Ellie Roden Wilmington, Vermont USA <eroden@...>


INTRO - Researching Bohemia #germany

Daniel Josef Gashler <djg32@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Daniel Gashler. I have been doing German-Jewish Geneology for
only a few days. Most of the information I have comes >from my
Grandfather, Alarich Franz Gaschler, as well as aunts and uncles who have
done quite a bit of research. My ancestors that I am researching come
from Bohemia.
Right now I am working on relatives >from the 18th and 19th centuries from
the villages of Neuer/Nyrsko, Neugebauer/Vseruby, and Kdyne.
The families I am researching are: EICHINGER, FUESSEL,
RONSPERGER, GRASSLAU, and ROGG / HORNER. Due to my short involvement I
have not been very successful.

My computer and internet skills are good. My native language is English.
I also have a working knowledge of Russian, Slovene, Serbo-Croatian,
Macedonian, and Spanish. My German skills are lacking, but I've been able
to work my way through German texts with a lot of grunting and referencing. I speak and read some modern Hebrew, although I'm working
right now to figure out how to read tombstones(it's quite difficult).

Since I'm knowledgeable in other Slavic languages, I'm able to do alright
in figuring out Czech and Slovak.

I've had some free time lately to divulge myself in geneology, but
I am a full time student and will be returning to school next week.
I would love to assist in any way possible and get help with my
own research. However, due to my schedule, the next few months will be
hectic and I will probably speng as much time doing geneology as I do
sleeping. However, please do contact me! Sincerely,

Daniel Josef Gashler <djg32@...> Provo, Utah USA

MOD NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. You should also join the BohMor SIG.


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Researching Bohemia #germany

Daniel Josef Gashler <djg32@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Daniel Gashler. I have been doing German-Jewish Geneology for
only a few days. Most of the information I have comes >from my
Grandfather, Alarich Franz Gaschler, as well as aunts and uncles who have
done quite a bit of research. My ancestors that I am researching come
from Bohemia.
Right now I am working on relatives >from the 18th and 19th centuries from
the villages of Neuer/Nyrsko, Neugebauer/Vseruby, and Kdyne.
The families I am researching are: EICHINGER, FUESSEL,
RONSPERGER, GRASSLAU, and ROGG / HORNER. Due to my short involvement I
have not been very successful.

My computer and internet skills are good. My native language is English.
I also have a working knowledge of Russian, Slovene, Serbo-Croatian,
Macedonian, and Spanish. My German skills are lacking, but I've been able
to work my way through German texts with a lot of grunting and referencing. I speak and read some modern Hebrew, although I'm working
right now to figure out how to read tombstones(it's quite difficult).

Since I'm knowledgeable in other Slavic languages, I'm able to do alright
in figuring out Czech and Slovak.

I've had some free time lately to divulge myself in geneology, but
I am a full time student and will be returning to school next week.
I would love to assist in any way possible and get help with my
own research. However, due to my schedule, the next few months will be
hectic and I will probably speng as much time doing geneology as I do
sleeping. However, please do contact me! Sincerely,

Daniel Josef Gashler <djg32@...> Provo, Utah USA

MOD NOTE: Welcome to GerSig. You should also join the BohMor SIG.


BOOK CITE - Minden in North Rhine Westphalia #germany

Michael Wolfers
 

Please note - I have no commercial interest in the following book (It
can be acquired >from the publisher through:
regionalgeschichte@... or via an online German bookstore
www.amazon.de - for approximate cost of 49 Euros). However I wish to
draw this publication in German in July to the attention of GERSIG
subscribers interested in the small number of Jewish families in the
neighbourhood of Minden near Hannover (in modern North Rhine
Westphalia, Germany) >from the 17th century to modern times.

The study with 831 pages (yes 831) with nearly four thousand footnotes
is primarily a work of history and social history >from mainly archival
sources, but includes much genealogical detail: I am currently
examining one hundred references to my 8th great grandfather, and
other references to his descendants - and to his neighbours and their
descendants.

Author: Bernd-Wilhelm LINNEMEIER
Title: Juedisches Leben im Alten Reich - Stadt und Fuerstentum Minden
in der Fruehen Neuzeit
Publication series:Studien zur Regionalgeschichte Bd. 15
Publisher: Verlag fuer Regionalgeschichte, Bielefeld 2002
References: ISBN 3-89534-360-9 and ISSN 1615-0422 Hardcover

Michael Wolfers London, UK mwolfers@...

Researching: WOLFERS (Minden, Diepenau, Hamburg)
GOMPERTZ (Kleve, Bonn, Rheinberg, Hannover)


German SIG #Germany BOOK CITE - Minden in North Rhine Westphalia #germany

Michael Wolfers
 

Please note - I have no commercial interest in the following book (It
can be acquired >from the publisher through:
regionalgeschichte@... or via an online German bookstore
www.amazon.de - for approximate cost of 49 Euros). However I wish to
draw this publication in German in July to the attention of GERSIG
subscribers interested in the small number of Jewish families in the
neighbourhood of Minden near Hannover (in modern North Rhine
Westphalia, Germany) >from the 17th century to modern times.

The study with 831 pages (yes 831) with nearly four thousand footnotes
is primarily a work of history and social history >from mainly archival
sources, but includes much genealogical detail: I am currently
examining one hundred references to my 8th great grandfather, and
other references to his descendants - and to his neighbours and their
descendants.

Author: Bernd-Wilhelm LINNEMEIER
Title: Juedisches Leben im Alten Reich - Stadt und Fuerstentum Minden
in der Fruehen Neuzeit
Publication series:Studien zur Regionalgeschichte Bd. 15
Publisher: Verlag fuer Regionalgeschichte, Bielefeld 2002
References: ISBN 3-89534-360-9 and ISSN 1615-0422 Hardcover

Michael Wolfers London, UK mwolfers@...

Researching: WOLFERS (Minden, Diepenau, Hamburg)
GOMPERTZ (Kleve, Bonn, Rheinberg, Hannover)


Chassidic dress #rabbinic

rosinskyb
 

Hi all.

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century
(some end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize
a tradiional Jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and
if a Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book
that can help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?

Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture?

Thanks,
Bernard Rosinsky


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Chassidic dress #rabbinic

rosinskyb
 

Hi all.

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century
(some end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize
a tradiional Jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and
if a Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book
that can help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?

Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture?

Thanks,
Bernard Rosinsky